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Old 07-15-2020, 01:49 PM   #1
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Although there is an old thread regarding Shep Brown’s sale to Goodhue and another about service at Goodhue in Wolfeboro, I’m starting this one with regard to a recent purchase at Shep Brown’s.

We sold our 2001 Sea Ray 230...I love the Lake but just got tired of dealing with minor hassles. Additionally, our summer trip this year was canceled and we got a full refund on it including air fare. Anyway....my wife decided we “needed” a small boat just to putter around the islands. I was thinking Jon boat with 8 hp but “we” decided if she did all the research, she could buy whatever ( within reason) she wanted. After research, she “wanted” a 2020 Whaler Supersport 130. Well, it is small. The boat market is overheated and she couldn’t find one. Shep Brown had one but someone had put a deposit on it. A week later Shep called as the deal fell through so my wife bought it.

They were easy ( for her) to deal with, they had to add some options and we wanted it delivered to us; so we basically did a no contact purchase and the boat was delivered in a week as promised.

Of course, buying is the easy part and we have had no problems with it so far. But it is fun to drive and Shep’s made the experience easy. The jury is still out, but that is always the case.
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The Tohatsu M40D2 is a 40-hp two stroke outboard that weighs 159 lbs and works with a steering wheel and remote throttle.

Assume your new 13' Boston Whaler has a 40-hp Mercury four-stroke. How much does the new outboard motor weigh?
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The Tohatsu M40D2 is a 40-hp two stroke outboard that weighs 159 lbs and works with a steering wheel and remote throttle.

Assume your new 13' Boston Whaler has a 40-hp Mercury four-stroke. How much does the new outboard motor weigh?
They usually equip those with the 40 HP three cylinder which weighs 204lbs.

Sheps does sell a lot of 130 whalers with 25HP motors to make them useable for those w/o a boat license.
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Although there is an old thread regarding Shep Brown’s sale to Goodhue and another about service at Goodhue in Wolfeboro, I’m starting this one with regard to a recent purchase at Shep Brown’s.

We sold our 2001 Sea Ray 230...I love the Lake but just got tired of dealing with minor hassles. Additionally, our summer trip this year was canceled and we got a full refund on it including air fare. Anyway....my wife decided we “needed” a small boat just to putter around the islands. I was thinking Jon boat with 8 hp but “we” decided if she did all the research, she could buy whatever ( within reason) she wanted. After research, she “wanted” a 2020 Whaler Supersport 130. Well, it is small. The boat market is overheated and she couldn’t find one. Shep Brown had one but someone had put a deposit on it. A week later Shep called as the deal fell through so my wife bought it.

They were easy ( for her) to deal with, they had to add some options and we wanted it delivered to us; so we basically did a no contact purchase and the boat was delivered in a week as promised.

Of course, buying is the easy part and we have had no problems with it so far. But it is fun to drive and Shep’s made the experience easy. The jury is still out, but that is always the case.
That's a great choice in a small boat!
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They usually equip those with the 40 HP three cylinder which weighs 204lbs.

Sheps does sell a lot of 130 whalers with 25HP motors to make them useable for those w/o a boat license.
The 130 25 hp package is perfect for island kids under 16, but usually very knowledgeable, who have to wait a couple of years to get a certificate.
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The 130 25 hp package is perfect for island kids under 16, but usually very knowledgeable, who have to wait a couple of years to get a certificate.
Yeah I heard humor that Shep's is the #1 seller of that 130SS w\25HP package in the entire country.
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Every time I see one, it always looks like the motor is too big, too much weight, for the boat? At 204-lbs, that's about 100-lbs less than I was expecting and is a good low weight for a boat like that.

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Every time I see one, it always looks like the motor is too big, too much weight, for the boat? At 204-lbs, that's about 100-lbs less than I was expecting and is a good low weight for a boat like that.

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When the 4 strokes first came out I agree they were big and heavy, but like anything else, technology and engineering has resulted in size and more so weight reductions. Couple that with significantly increasing the fuel efficiency while cutting emissions.

With Evinrude ceasing production of outboard motors that doesn't leave many options for those that still want a 2 stroke.

https://www.evinrude.com/en-US/our-e...customers.html
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www.outboardrepower.net in Laconia is a Tohatsu Dealer so's maybe it has or can get the Tohatsu two-strokes?

Tohatsu, made in Japan, is like the biggest selling outboard in the world, or something, and Evinrude size 15-hp and smaller was made by Tohatsu.
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Ours does have a 25 hp. Works for us. Unfortunately, at this moment I am at Sheps with a leak in the gas tank. Easy to get them on the phone. Will give follow up. I do have a boating certificate.
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When the 4 strokes first came out I agree they were big and heavy, but like anything else, technology and engineering has resulted in size and more so weight reductions. Couple that with significantly increasing the fuel efficiency while cutting emissions.
Very true as I am in the middle of a re-power now going from an Evinrude etec two stroke to a Merc Pro XS Command Thrust 4 stroke of the same Horsepower and the Merc is 20 lbs lighter!!

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Very true as I am in the middle of a re-power now going from an Evinrude etec two stroke to a Merc Pro XS Command Thrust 4 stroke of the same Horsepower and the Merc is 20 lbs lighter!!

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You're going to love that motor and having the command thrust gear box is a brilliant design by Mercury, well worth the small bump in price. You're going to feel like you added HP with that CT setup even though you didn't. Nice choice!
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Long story short...crack in part of the portable gas tank. Fortunately, Shep’s had a new tank and Ron fixed me up and I am on my way. Problem solved.
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Very true as I am in the middle of a re-power now going from an Evinrude etec two stroke to a Merc Pro XS Command Thrust 4 stroke of the same Horsepower and the Merc is 20 lbs lighter!!

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Dan, curious why the switch?
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www.outboardrepower.net in Laconia is a Tohatsu Dealer so's maybe it has or can get the Tohatsu two-strokes?

Tohatsu, made in Japan, is like the biggest selling outboard in the world, or something, and Evinrude size 15-hp and smaller was made by Tohatsu.
Repower shop is where I bought my paddle boat.....also deals in Lehr propane motors.
Have a 5hp that runs off a 20lb propane tank or the small bottles for your grille.Great engine and "0" maintenance
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Dan, curious why the switch?
Good question!...The Etec is now 12 years old and has been 100% trouble free. It has simply been a great motor! It is however 12 years old and on our main island boat. We live on the island 24/7 and commute back and forth to work 3-4 days a week. If the motor was to go down for any reason I would most likely be waiting 3 weeks to a month or longer to get a re-power done and being without the boat for that long would be an extreme inconvenience.

Also, as you probably know, the Etec is no longer being manufactured so I will assume parts will start drying up eventually and servicing will most likely become an issue. There is only one Etec dealer / service center on the lake (Thurston's) and while they have been fantastic to me over the years I'm sure they are going to start selling and servicing another brand and will eventually phase out Evinrude servicing.

So for the reasons stated above, I figured now was a good time...

As an fyi...I sold the Etec in 20 minutes on facebook marketplace for about 1/3rd the price of the new motor and had half dozen people in line who also wanted it. I honestly could not believe the interest in it! Not sure if its because they are no longer making them or people wanted it for parts or what but I had over 40 inquiries and 6 full price immediate sale offers. I guess I should have asked more money for it!!

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1973- 13' Whaler Sport/40hp- w/galvy trailer. Boat/motor original- trailer 2000. Two owners only.

Probably would help if interested buyer was mechanical- boat and motor ran fine last time used- TLC would be an obvious requirement to bringing this gem back to use.

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www.outboardrepower.net in Laconia is a Tohatsu Dealer so's maybe it has or can get the Tohatsu two-strokes?

Tohatsu, made in Japan, is like the biggest selling outboard in the world, or something, and Evinrude size 15-hp and smaller was made by Tohatsu.
Yamaha is the best selling on a global scale.

Suzuki, Mercury, Honda and Evinrude round out the top 5.
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Put an add on Craigslist. Probably will sell in a week. Sold mine (1986) in literally three days.
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Yamaha is the best selling on a global scale.

Suzuki, Mercury, Honda and Evinrude round out the top 5.
Really...? Where are you getting that Yamaha is the best selling on a global scale facts from. I have been told by dealers of Yamaha and Mercury that Mercury is by far has a huge marketshare over all brands. This comes from Winnisqam Marine and others. I don't know myself but am very curious where you got this information.
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Really...? Where are you getting that Yamaha is the best selling on a global scale facts from. I have been told by dealers of Yamaha and Mercury that Mercury is by far has a huge marketshare over all brands. This comes from Winnisqam Marine and others. I don't know myself but am very curious where you got this information.
Pretty sure Maxum is correct. Yamaha I believe holds 40% of the market share globally on outboards. Don’t remember where I read that but am positive I did.

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Pretty sure Maxum is correct. Yamaha I believe holds 40% of the market share globally on outboards. Don’t remember where I read that but am positive I did.

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Here you go: https://www.asia-pacificboating.com/...tboard-engines

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Thinking the marina may get higher kickback for selling a Merc over Yamaha


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I think worldwide they have market share but in the US I think Mercury is the leader.

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Tohatsu is the biggest seller in Japan is what I should have said ..... not the world ..... plus is popular with ocean pirates from Somalia for chasing down passing freighters ...... 20-miles out in the sea.

They use a 75-hp Tohatsu tiller handle two-stroke on an all wood 20' skiff and roar out the waves to catch a slow moving freighter.

Tohatsu could make an ad with a pirate endorsing their motor ....... arrgghhh ..... Tohatsu!
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Really...? Where are you getting that Yamaha is the best selling on a global scale facts from. I have been told by dealers of Yamaha and Mercury that Mercury is by far has a huge marketshare over all brands. This comes from Winnisqam Marine and others. I don't know myself but am very curious where you got this information.
Where I travel to Mexico, a huge fishing village, Mercury doesn't exist. Yamaha is everywhere/ The locals tell me that Yamaha is the only motor they'll ever use. No Mercury mechanic anywhere around.
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Where I travel to Mexico, a huge fishing village, Mercury doesn't exist. Yamaha is everywhere/ The locals tell me that Yamaha is the only motor they'll ever use. No Mercury mechanic anywhere around.
Yeah, but...they also built the Adobe. http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-li...eo/adobe/n9492

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My experience is that I will see mainly Yamaha's in the coastal/salt water areas. Where I grew boating in New Jersey it was mainly Johnson/Evinrude back in the day and now they are Yamaha's. In fresh water, I see a lot of Mercury's. Mercury/Brunswick has gained a lot of their market share by buying boat companies.
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We bought the new BW SS 160 with the 90 up Merc. She flys. We ended up not doing Shep Browns because all they had was the one with the ugly brown hull stripe and they did want $500 more than the already over priced whaler dealer installed options to install them. I am worried about the gas tanks. They bloat in the heat and contract when it cools down.
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Jazzman, don't worry about those portable plastic tanks. Completely understand your concerns but they generally last a long time.
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Except for the one I described above which was defective, portable gas tanks have a variety of safety features that the last one I had 35 years ago did not have.
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