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Old 12-15-2017, 02:19 PM   #1
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Default Keno 603 starts today in Laconia

http://www.newhampshire.com/lifestyl...state-12152017

Keno-603, which starts today, December 15, is a way to help pay for all day public kindergarten in the school districts.

The list in this newspaper article shows four Laconia pouring establishments with Keno-603.
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Old 12-15-2017, 02:57 PM   #2
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http://www.newhampshire.com/lifestyl...state-12152017

Keno-603, which starts today, December 15, is a way to help pay for all day public kindergarten in the school districts.

The list in this newspaper article shows four Laconia pouring establishments with Keno-603.
This makes me sad.
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Old 12-15-2017, 03:51 PM   #3
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Old 12-16-2017, 07:59 AM   #4
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Me too, what part is sad ??
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Old 12-16-2017, 11:43 AM   #5
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http://www.laconiadailysun.com/newsx...ound-the-state

A different newspaper article from Saturday, Dec 16.

Got no real clue here, but maybe it's actually a good way to help pay to extend the five day per week kindergarten from 8am-noon with a longer school day to 8am-3pm, or something like this.

And, another newspaper article from Saturday, December 16:

http://www.concordmonitor.com/Keno-c...state-14362192

Never ever have played Keno: I totally avoid all lottery games, and would probably turn around and leave the restaurant if I walked in and saw a Keno machine ..... but what the heck ..... expanding kindergarten from a morning session to an all day session seems like a super good move. All day kindergarten could help these young kids to avoid playing the lottery games later on in life.

https://wizardofodds.com/games/keno/

Question of the day: Is Keene, NH, keen on keno? No, in Keene it was defeated by 1450-no vs 820-yes.

In Laconia, keno was successfully passed by a vote of 713-yes vs 606-no.

Believe these votes took place on Tuesday, November 7.

The funding for the new kindergarten expanded hours raised by Keno-603 will supposedly be $9-million/year except no one really knows until the money actually shows up. It gets distributed to all NH school districts, and not just to towns that voted yes to keno and have keno played in their town.
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Old 12-16-2017, 01:31 PM   #6
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http://www.laconiadailysun.com/newsx...ound-the-state

A different newspaper article from Saturday, Dec 16.

Got no real clue here, but maybe it's actually a good way to help pay to extend the five day per week kindergarten from 8am-noon with a longer school day to 8am-3pm, or something like this.

And, another newspaper article from Saturday, December 16:

http://www.concordmonitor.com/Keno-c...state-14362192

Never ever have played Keno: I totally avoid all lottery games, and would probably turn around and leave the restaurant if I walked in and saw a Keno machine ..... but what the heck ..... expanding kindergarten from a morning session to an all day session seems like a super good move. All day kindergarten could help these young kids to avoid playing the lottery games later on in life.

Or, it could turn out to be the Largest Baby Sitting Operation in the state.
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Old 12-16-2017, 01:45 PM   #7
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Adult Daycare. 😉

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Old 12-16-2017, 02:13 PM   #8
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Out West we've legalized the sale of cannabis, heavily taxed it, and the money is rolling in to help the state meet its expenses.

People are going to get high regardless, so why shouldn't the state take their cut?
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Old 12-16-2017, 05:32 PM   #10
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Most NH towns started public kindergarten about 12-13 years ago, so we should now be graduating the first group that had 13 years of public school instead of 12.. At the time people in town who lobbied for "free" kindergarten cited the need for one less car, no daycare expense, easier for both parents to work, etc. Not much about improved education. Or that they would be paying for kindergarten for as long as they own a house instead of 2 years of private kindergarten. I think kids at early ages can absorb a lot more than we ever expected in the past and kindergarten can be a good thing. I'm waiting for the NH DoE reports about higher SAT scores from this group, lower dropout rates, and all the rest. Probably another 2-3 years to get statistics that are meaningful.,
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There's lots of data online from elsewhere showing that full day kindergarten kids are better at reading and math--that's the good news, and I think we should expand the day.

But the Keno financing is a bad precedent. When the high school kids need more AP courses, are we going to build slots parlors? If we believe a program has a good cost/benefit profile, we should either increase taxes or cut underperforming programs to pay for it.
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Old 12-16-2017, 06:25 PM   #12
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Does very one forget that the lottery was passed years ago to help the education system. No problem now is there?
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Old 12-17-2017, 12:27 AM   #13
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PeterG: I agree that AP courses that save ($10's) thousands in college tuition are the best bang for the buck. More early starters in K will head us in that direction. Someday, the public education lobby will realize that some of the old methjods worked very well and that homogenizing is not the best answer. That'[s why home schoolers and charter schools appear to be out performing general education public schools.Of course, comparinmg these is an apples and oranges issue since they all have different clientele and goals.
As for kindergarten, my kids were smart (they all are, just ask the parents) when they got to first grade. But my grandchildren may be "smarter" because they learned to communicate at an earlier age. They, their parents and their teachers, all used American Sign Language which kids can learn at about 12 months, maybe less, and get past the early frustrations of not being able to communicate.
Anyway, I think earlier education can be a great thing. I hope it doesn't get messed up by the bureaucracy.
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Off topic a bit, but it's clear--both statistically and anecdotally--that early education helps later on. Anything to help that, including families who take education seriously and are involved at home and through school, leads to better outcomes.

A quick note on charter schools: while there are some examples of success, most studies and outcomes show they're not nearly as great as they claim. Self-selection and disciplinary options, along with many other factors, cloud the actual results.

Full disclosure: I'm both a middle-class suburban public school teacher and affluent private school program director.

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Old 12-17-2017, 09:32 AM   #15
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There's lots of data online from elsewhere showing that full day kindergarten kids are better at reading and math--that's the good news, and I think we should expand the day.

But the Keno financing is a bad precedent. When the high school kids need more AP courses, are we going to build slots parlors? If we believe a program has a good cost/benefit profile, we should either increase taxes or cut underperforming programs to pay for it.
Yes, cut out the underperforming programs and other infinite layers of fat to pay for these things. No more tax increases to feed these cities and towns that have little to no fiscal responsibility with taxpayers’ hard earned money!
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Old 12-17-2017, 10:00 AM   #16
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The sale of pot out west, particularly in Colorado may be bringing in a ton of money into the state coffers via taxation but one interesting item never seem to be talked about much. All the problems legalization has caused and how much it costs to deal with all that. Of course there is but you'll never hear about that just about how much money the state is actually making off of it and how wonderfully progressive an idea legalized pot is.

Lottery is the same thing, just a nicer word for a casino per say. Great idea to put these things in where they can be most effective in tempting the very people who can't afford it and likely are already on welfare. As a general rule smart people especially with money they earned will not throw it away playing the lottery. So much for trying to help them better themselves... that's just brilliant. Also you have your head in the sand if you think these lottery outlets are not strategically placed around the state. Let's just say I bet you you'll never see Keno at Church Landing.

I guess it doesn't matter these days so long as we can some how try to legalize or crowd think bad behavior it into being acceptable so long as the end (tax dollars) justify the means then we're all good. In the mean time the tax dollars are being continually pumped into a failing public school system hell bent on "educating" these kids to accept one and only one way of thinking, coddling them into safe spaces and ensuring that their buildings, campuses and athletic programs are top notch meanwhile basic skills are not taught effectively, or just plain not a priority.

Know what's really interesting? My daughter now a sophomore in college was home schooled till 9th grade then put into a private high school. Her high school charged less than half the cost in tuition each year than the state of NH claims is necessary to "educate" a kid in the state public school system. The place she went to did not have a pretty campus, or any massive athletic program, instead focused on achedemics. Interesting to see the difference now when she is actually tutoring her classmates on everything from basic English to math to science and some of these kids are ones that came out of the best public school systems in the state. It's a wonder these kids even graduated, oh wait I'm sorry we can't do that anymore everyone just gets a participation diploma and sent on their way. Wonderful.

All day kindergarten isn't going to fix this, but you're free to believe whatever you want. I personally think parents want this so they have a place to dump their kids all day out of convenience, it saves them money by not having to pay out of pocket for daycare or after school programs.
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The sale of pot out west, particularly in Colorado may be bringing in a ton of money into the state coffers via taxation but one interesting item never seem to be talked about much. All the problems legalization has caused and how much it costs to deal with all that. Of course there is but you'll never hear about that just about how much money the state is actually making off of it and how wonderfully progressive an idea legalized pot is.

Lottery is the same thing, just a nicer word for a casino per say. Great idea to put these things in where they can be most effective in tempting the very people who can't afford it and likely are already on welfare. As a general rule smart people especially with money they earned will not throw it away playing the lottery. So much for trying to help them better themselves... that's just brilliant. Also you have your head in the sand if you think these lottery outlets are not strategically placed around the state. Let's just say I bet you you'll never see Keno at Church Landing.

I guess it doesn't matter these days so long as we can some how try to legalize or crowd think bad behavior it into being acceptable so long as the end (tax dollars) justify the means then we're all good. In the mean time the tax dollars are being continually pumped into a failing public school system hell bent on "educating" these kids to accept one and only one way of thinking, coddling them into safe spaces and ensuring that their buildings, campuses and athletic programs are top notch meanwhile basic skills are not taught effectively, or just plain not a priority.

Know what's really interesting? My daughter now a sophomore in college was home schooled till 9th grade then put into a private high school. Her high school charged less than half the cost in tuition each year than the state of NH claims is necessary to "educate" a kid in the state public school system. The place she went to did not have a pretty campus, or any massive athletic program, instead focused on achedemics. Interesting to see the difference now when she is actually tutoring her classmates on everything from basic English to math to science and some of these kids are ones that came out of the best public school systems in the state. It's a wonder these kids even graduated, oh wait I'm sorry we can't do that anymore everyone just gets a participation diploma and sent on their way. Wonderful.

All day kindergarten isn't going to fix this, but you're free to believe whatever you want. I personally think parents want this so they have a place to dump their kids all day out of convenience, it saves them money by not having to pay out of pocket for daycare or after school programs.
Amen Maxum! Well said!

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Old 12-18-2017, 11:28 AM   #18
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There's another post in The Forum about Laconia increasing property taxes. Where's the money disappearing to in Laconia? Gonna need a special program or new fee to fund everything?
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The sale of pot out west, particularly in Colorado may be bringing in a ton of money into the state coffers via taxation but one interesting item never seem to be talked about much. All the problems legalization has caused and how much it costs to deal with all that. Of course there is but you'll never hear about that just about how much money the state is actually making off of it and how wonderfully progressive an idea legalized pot is.

Lottery is the same thing, just a nicer word for a casino per say. Great idea to put these things in where they can be most effective in tempting the very people who can't afford it and likely are already on welfare. As a general rule smart people especially with money they earned will not throw it away playing the lottery. So much for trying to help them better themselves... that's just brilliant. Also you have your head in the sand if you think these lottery outlets are not strategically placed around the state. Let's just say I bet you you'll never see Keno at Church Landing.

I guess it doesn't matter these days so long as we can some how try to legalize or crowd think bad behavior it into being acceptable so long as the end (tax dollars) justify the means then we're all good. In the mean time the tax dollars are being continually pumped into a failing public school system hell bent on "educating" these kids to accept one and only one way of thinking, coddling them into safe spaces and ensuring that their buildings, campuses and athletic programs are top notch meanwhile basic skills are not taught effectively, or just plain not a priority.

Know what's really interesting? My daughter now a sophomore in college was home schooled till 9th grade then put into a private high school. Her high school charged less than half the cost in tuition each year than the state of NH claims is necessary to "educate" a kid in the state public school system. The place she went to did not have a pretty campus, or any massive athletic program, instead focused on achedemics. Interesting to see the difference now when she is actually tutoring her classmates on everything from basic English to math to science and some of these kids are ones that came out of the best public school systems in the state. It's a wonder these kids even graduated, oh wait I'm sorry we can't do that anymore everyone just gets a participation diploma and sent on their way. Wonderful.

All day kindergarten isn't going to fix this, but you're free to believe whatever you want. I personally think parents want this so they have a place to dump their kids all day out of convenience, it saves them money by not having to pay out of pocket for daycare or after school programs.
I'd like to define myself as a smart person that has some disposable income. When Keno is at a restaurant I generally play $20 worth for ten games to pass time. It gets exciting and also financed my trip to Cabo earlier this year.

When not playing the formal game of keno, I play a different version of the game with friends that's also fun and exciting. Money doesn't go to the lottery and someone will always win the pot...certainly turns heads in restaurants too as everyone is generally interested in what we're doing and why so much excitement. My point is, there is always some exception to the "general rule."

There are negatives AND positives to almost everything in life. Everyone has a choice whether or not to play if in the circumstances.
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