Go Back   Winnipesaukee Forum > Winnipesaukee Forums > Covid-19 Discussions & Information
Home Forums Gallery Blogs YouTube Channel Classifieds Links Calendar Register FAQDonate Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-21-2020, 04:29 PM   #1
TheProfessor
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 662
Thanks: 16
Thanked 188 Times in 115 Posts
Default Local Moultonboro Restaurant Closes - Covid

A very popular restaurant on Route 25 Moultonborough has closed due to Covid-19.
TheProfessor is offline  
Old 11-21-2020, 04:36 PM   #2
WinnisquamZ
Senior Member
 
WinnisquamZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 794
Thanks: 112
Thanked 278 Times in 177 Posts
Default

Same for Christmas Island. Gave it two months

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
WinnisquamZ is offline  
Old 11-21-2020, 04:55 PM   #3
joey2665
Senior Member
 
joey2665's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Meredith Bay & LI, NY
Posts: 2,835
Thanks: 843
Thanked 813 Times in 534 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by WinnisquamZ View Post
Same for Christmas Island. Gave it two months


Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
Christmas Island closed? Passed last night couple cars in the lot lights on and inside looked decorated for Christmas. No pun. Lol

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
joey2665 is offline  
Old 11-21-2020, 04:58 PM   #4
joey2665
Senior Member
 
joey2665's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Meredith Bay & LI, NY
Posts: 2,835
Thanks: 843
Thanked 813 Times in 534 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheProfessor View Post
A very popular restaurant on Route 25 Moultonborough has closed due to Covid-19.
What restaurant was it that closed?

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
joey2665 is offline  
Old 11-21-2020, 05:02 PM   #5
WinnisquamZ
Senior Member
 
WinnisquamZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 794
Thanks: 112
Thanked 278 Times in 177 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by joey2665 View Post
Christmas Island closed? Passed last night couple cars in the lot lights on and inside looked decorated for Christmas. No pun. Lol

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
Drove by earlier in the week. Sign said closed to further notice. Change of heart?

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
WinnisquamZ is offline  
Sponsored Links
Old 11-21-2020, 05:08 PM   #6
joey2665
Senior Member
 
joey2665's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Meredith Bay & LI, NY
Posts: 2,835
Thanks: 843
Thanked 813 Times in 534 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by WinnisquamZ View Post
Drove by earlier in the week. Sign said closed to further notice. Change of heart?

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
Not sure I’ll pass by again tomorrow and check it out

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
joey2665 is offline  
Old 11-21-2020, 05:23 PM   #7
Sue Doe-Nym
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 944
Thanks: 526
Thanked 502 Times in 249 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheProfessor View Post
A very popular restaurant on Route 25 Moultonborough has closed due to Covid-19.
Please enlighten us.
Sue Doe-Nym is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to Sue Doe-Nym For This Useful Post:
joey2665 (11-21-2020)
Old 11-21-2020, 11:11 PM   #8
Descant
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Merrimack and Welch Island
Posts: 2,533
Thanks: 743
Thanked 937 Times in 581 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheProfessor View Post
A very popular restaurant on Route 25 Moultonborough has closed due to Covid-19.
You may think you're a Professor, but a good teacher would give us facts. Rarely going to Moultonboro, I have no idea what a "good restaurant in Moultonboro" means. SAMIAM, are you OK?
Descant is offline  
Old 11-21-2020, 11:32 PM   #9
Sue Doe-Nym
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 944
Thanks: 526
Thanked 502 Times in 249 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Descant View Post
You may think you're a Professor, but a good teacher would give us facts. Rarely going to Moultonboro, I have no idea what a "good restaurant in Marlborough" means. SAMIAM, are you OK?
That’s what I was wondering. Samiam, your fans are in your corner. We hope the restaurant owners can hang on until the vaccines are available.
Sue Doe-Nym is offline  
Old 11-22-2020, 07:09 AM   #10
SAMIAM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Moultonborough
Posts: 2,594
Thanks: 226
Thanked 1,319 Times in 455 Posts
Default

Thanks for the support......but it's not us.
Keeping our fingers crossed but we're open as usual and no issues with COVID.

Trying our best to keep everything clean and safe. Encouraging our staff to avoid any gatherings, be cautious and use masks and sanitizer.
Numbers are down by a lot and the wait staff is definitely hurting....less people=less tips. Many of our customers are doing take out so please consider a generous tip if you're able.
SAMIAM is offline  
The Following 10 Users Say Thank You to SAMIAM For This Useful Post:
ACME on the Broads (12-02-2020), ApS (11-22-2020), Biggd (11-22-2020), Doobs41378 (11-22-2020), eillac@dow (11-24-2020), JEEPONLY (11-22-2020), joey2665 (11-22-2020), TheTimeTraveler (11-22-2020), TiltonBB (11-22-2020), Tomregal (11-23-2020)
Old 11-22-2020, 07:11 AM   #11
joey2665
Senior Member
 
joey2665's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Meredith Bay & LI, NY
Posts: 2,835
Thanks: 843
Thanked 813 Times in 534 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheProfessor View Post
A very popular restaurant on Route 25 Moultonborough has closed due to Covid-19.
I’m sorry but you should not drop a bomb without stating facts. It leads to way too much speculation and not fair to any of the open restaurants in the area.

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
joey2665 is offline  
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to joey2665 For This Useful Post:
FlyingScot (11-22-2020), SAMIAM (11-22-2020)
Old 11-22-2020, 07:49 AM   #12
tis
Senior Member
 
tis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 5,219
Thanks: 557
Thanked 1,028 Times in 719 Posts
Default

So glad you are ok Sam!!!! My heart goes out to you. What a terrible time for restaurant people.
tis is offline  
Old 11-22-2020, 07:51 AM   #13
longislander
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Moultonborough
Posts: 265
Thanks: 22
Thanked 57 Times in 43 Posts
Default

Quote:
Drove by earlier in the week. Sign said closed to further notice.
Subway subs sign still says closed till further notice.

The BobHouse late Friday afternoon was notified of a covid case and will be closed for a while (week or two ?). We then went to Buckeyes.

Last night we enjoyed a great prime rib at Village Kitchen. A lot of takeout was going on as well.
longislander is offline  
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to longislander For This Useful Post:
DotRat (11-22-2020), VitaBene (11-22-2020)
Old 11-22-2020, 08:07 AM   #14
Lakegeezer
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Moultonboro, NH
Posts: 1,564
Blog Entries: 1
Thanks: 303
Thanked 531 Times in 239 Posts
Default Bob House

You can read the Bob House's notice on their web site. They are approaching it in an open and professional way and I hope them a quick rebound after they open again. Good people there!

http://www.thebobhouseandreelntavern.com/
__________________
-lg
Lakegeezer is offline  
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Lakegeezer For This Useful Post:
Biggd (11-22-2020), ishoot308 (11-22-2020), SAMIAM (11-22-2020), upthesaukee (11-22-2020)
Old 11-22-2020, 08:16 AM   #15
joey2665
Senior Member
 
joey2665's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Meredith Bay & LI, NY
Posts: 2,835
Thanks: 843
Thanked 813 Times in 534 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lakegeezer View Post
You can read the Bob House's notice on their web site. They are approaching it in an open and professional way and I hope them a quick rebound after they open again. Good people there!

http://www.thebobhouseandreelntavern.com/
Thank you for the information. Glad to see it is only a temporary closure.

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
joey2665 is offline  
Old 11-22-2020, 08:20 AM   #16
thinkxingu
Senior Member
 
thinkxingu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 3,863
Thanks: 985
Thanked 1,226 Times in 729 Posts
Default

The OP bricks both in not identifying the restaurant and by being unclear about the length of closure. Not cool.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
thinkxingu is offline  
The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to thinkxingu For This Useful Post:
Descant (11-22-2020), FlyingScot (11-22-2020), ishoot308 (11-22-2020), joey2665 (11-22-2020), VitaBene (11-22-2020)
Old 11-22-2020, 12:44 PM   #17
TheProfessor
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 662
Thanks: 16
Thanked 188 Times in 115 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thinkxingu View Post
The OP bricks both in not identifying the restaurant and by being unclear about the length of closure. Not cool.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
Might be cleared up below.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lakegeezer View Post
You can read the Bob House's notice on their web site. They are approaching it in an open and professional way and I hope them a quick rebound after they open again. Good people there!

http://www.thebobhouseandreelntavern.com/
Might be cleared up above.
TheProfessor is offline  
Old 11-22-2020, 01:31 PM   #18
dmjr
Senior Member
 
dmjr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Moultonborough, NH
Posts: 248
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Default

Great! So if Patrons that were at the Bob House during that time period - are they going to be smart and isolate themselves or are they going to frequent other establishments?
__________________
DMJR
Moultonborough, NH
dmjr is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to dmjr For This Useful Post:
gillygirl (11-22-2020)
Old 11-22-2020, 02:47 PM   #19
FlyingScot
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Tuftonboro and Sudbury, MA
Posts: 1,145
Thanks: 657
Thanked 510 Times in 301 Posts
Default

Yikes! I thought the closure was due to the economic strain of COVID. I did not realize there were actually cases. Sounds like they are handling it well, but a cautionary reminder for us all. Here's their statement:

**PLEASE READ**
We are sad to say but we were informed that a customer tested positive for Covid-19 on Monday and were dining with us on Saturday 11/14. We received this information yesterday afternoon and immediately told our staff who was in "close contact" to that customer. My staff then got tested and unfortunately there are now a couple positive cases that we have to report. Knowing there were multiple positive cases at our establishment we closed the doors immediately yesterday around 4pm. We have already been in contact with any customers that were in "Close Contact" to the servers that have tested positive. We have been told that "Close Contact" means within 6 ft. for a period of 10 minutes of more (does not need to be a consecutive 10 minutes). In light of this new information we will remain closed an additional week as our entire staff must quarantine regardless if they test negative for 14 days. We will re-open our doors Wednesday December 9th at 11:30am after a deep clean of the entire restaurant. We apologize for any inconvenience but our main concern is for everyone's safety
FlyingScot is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to FlyingScot For This Useful Post:
Sue Doe-Nym (11-22-2020)
Old 11-22-2020, 03:05 PM   #20
Sue Doe-Nym
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 944
Thanks: 526
Thanked 502 Times in 249 Posts
Default

Yikes! I was there Wednesday with a bunch of lady friends, and nobody took our names/phone numbers. I canít remember the name of the server. Weíll have to wait and see what happens. Not cheery news, for sure.
Sue Doe-Nym is offline  
Old 11-22-2020, 03:25 PM   #21
Mr. V
Senior Member
 
Mr. V's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: the left coast (Portland)and West Alton
Posts: 1,057
Thanks: 49
Thanked 161 Times in 109 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sue Doe-Nym View Post
Yikes! I was there Wednesday with a bunch of lady friends, and nobody took our names/phone numbers. I canít remember the name of the server. Weíll have to wait and see what happens. Not cheery news, for sure.
Was your server / the staff wearing a mask?

If so, you're almost certainly fine.

Otherwise ...
__________________
basking in the benign indifference of the universe
Mr. V is offline  
Old 11-22-2020, 03:55 PM   #22
TheTimeTraveler
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 422
Thanks: 120
Thanked 136 Times in 72 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingScot View Post
Yikes! I thought the closure was due to the economic strain of COVID. I did not realize there were actually cases. Sounds like they are handling it well, but a cautionary reminder for us all. Here's their statement:

**PLEASE READ**
We are sad to say but we were informed that a customer tested positive for Covid-19 on Monday and were dining with us on Saturday 11/14. We received this information yesterday afternoon and immediately told our staff who was in "close contact" to that customer. My staff then got tested and unfortunately there are now a couple positive cases that we have to report. Knowing there were multiple positive cases at our establishment we closed the doors immediately yesterday around 4pm. We have already been in contact with any customers that were in "Close Contact" to the servers that have tested positive. We have been told that "Close Contact" means within 6 ft. for a period of 10 minutes of more (does not need to be a consecutive 10 minutes). In light of this new information we will remain closed an additional week as our entire staff must quarantine regardless if they test negative for 14 days. We will re-open our doors Wednesday December 9th at 11:30am after a deep clean of the entire restaurant. We apologize for any inconvenience but our main concern is for everyone's safety
I believe all Restaurants in the State of New Hampshire have been taking names and phone numbers for the last week or two, so notifying affected customers may not have been a difficult task.

Let's hope they get everything cleaned up and are able to successfully open up again in a few weeks!

I want to thank them for doing the right thing under these no so ideal circumstances and wish them the best!
TheTimeTraveler is offline  
Old 11-22-2020, 04:18 PM   #23
Sue Doe-Nym
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 944
Thanks: 526
Thanked 502 Times in 249 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheTimeTraveler View Post
I believe all Restaurants in the State of New Hampshire have been taking names and phone numbers for the last week or two, so notifying affected customers may not have been a difficult task.

Let's hope they get everything cleaned up and are able to successfully open up again in a few weeks!

I want to thank them for doing the right thing under these no so ideal circumstances and wish them the best!
You might be almost 100% re taking names and phone numbers, but nobody did that at the Bobhouse last Wednesday at lunchtime. I know that because I was there...6 of us. Now we can wait and see what transpires.
Sue Doe-Nym is offline  
Old 11-22-2020, 04:35 PM   #24
Descant
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Merrimack and Welch Island
Posts: 2,533
Thanks: 743
Thanked 937 Times in 581 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sue Doe-Nym View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheTimeTraveler View Post
I believe all Restaurants in the State of New Hampshire have been taking names and phone numbers for the last week or two, so notifying affected customers may not have been a difficult task.

Let's hope they get everything cleaned up and are able to successfully open up again in a few weeks!

I want to thank them for doing the right thing under these no so ideal circumstances and wish them the best!
You might be almost 100% re taking names and phone numbers, but nobody did that at the Bobhouse last Wednesday at lunchtime. I know that because I was there...6 of us. Now we can wait and see what transpires.
Are you a regular "where everybody knows your name"? Or did one of the others in your party of 6 give name and contact info?
Descant is offline  
Old 11-22-2020, 04:42 PM   #25
Sue Doe-Nym
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 944
Thanks: 526
Thanked 502 Times in 249 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sue Doe-Nym View Post
Are you a regular "where everybody knows your name"? Or did one of the others in your party of 6 give name and contact info?
No, we’re not regular customers, so they don’t know us. They should have taken our information. There was only one other occupied table....maybe that’s why..... but not a good excuse.
Sue Doe-Nym is offline  
Old 11-22-2020, 05:16 PM   #26
thinkxingu
Senior Member
 
thinkxingu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 3,863
Thanks: 985
Thanked 1,226 Times in 729 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Descant View Post
No, we’re not regular customers, so they don’t know us. They should have taken our information. There was only one other occupied table....maybe that’s why..... but not a good excuse.
Soooo...why didn't you offer? Did you forget?

Sent from my SM-G950U using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
thinkxingu is offline  
Old 11-22-2020, 05:34 PM   #27
TheTimeTraveler
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 422
Thanks: 120
Thanked 136 Times in 72 Posts
Default

I have heard that some New Hampshire Restaurants have asked their customers to write their name and phone numbers on the paper bill invoice at the end of the meal. I have no idea if the Bob House handles name tracking using that method or not. I personally have not seen any restaurant using that method of tracking yet.

I was at a Restaurant near Concord on Tuesday November 17th and they asked my name (and phone number) and wrote it into a notebook prior to placing the food order. I was with another person at the time and they said as long as they had at least one name and number per table setting then they were fine.
TheTimeTraveler is offline  
Old 11-22-2020, 06:19 PM   #28
tummyman
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Moultonborough
Posts: 490
Thanks: 97
Thanked 420 Times in 127 Posts
Default

One might expect that the Moultonborough Emergency Management Director and/or the local Moultonborough Health Agent should periodically visit all restaurants or food service businesses with eat in options to ensure compliance with the Governors actions and report back to the BOS. It would be a good test of the system.

Last week the town folks said at a BOS meeting only 2 active cases of COVID with none in the schools while the Laconia Sun had 11....but nobody suggested a reconciliation. And schools are now on remote because of increased local spread. Hmmmmmmm........!

All towns should be doing this to give the dining public confidence in the system.
tummyman is offline  
Old 11-22-2020, 07:56 PM   #29
baygo
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 528
Thanks: 133
Thanked 383 Times in 161 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheTimeTraveler View Post
I have heard that some New Hampshire Restaurants have asked their customers to write their name and phone numbers on the paper bill invoice at the end of the meal. I have no idea if the Bob House handles name tracking using that method or not. I personally have not seen any restaurant using that method of tracking yet.

I was at a Restaurant near Concord on Tuesday November 17th and they asked my name (and phone number) and wrote it into a notebook prior to placing the food order. I was with another person at the time and they said as long as they had at least one name and number per table setting then they were fine.
Mandate for restaurants to collect name and phone numbers of guests was rescinded due to an overwhelming amount of inaccurate/fake data collected. It turned out to be a tremendous waste of time because the public was not willing to share personal information. We are still encouraging our guests to write their phone number on the back of the credit card slip if they have concerns and would like to be notified in the event of an incident. Letís hope we never have to call.
baygo is offline  
Old 11-22-2020, 08:02 PM   #30
joey2665
Senior Member
 
joey2665's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Meredith Bay & LI, NY
Posts: 2,835
Thanks: 843
Thanked 813 Times in 534 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by baygo View Post
Mandate for restaurants to collect name and phone numbers of guests was rescinded due to an overwhelming amount of inaccurate/fake data collected. It turned out to be a tremendous waste of time because the public was not willing to share personal information. We are still encouraging our guests to write their phone number on the back of the credit card slip if they have concerns and would like to be notified in the event of an incident. Let’s hope we never have to call.
I understand the privacy issue but if you make a reservation or go on a wait list, especially one that texts you like they have at t bones you give your name and number anyway. Additionally if you order take out or delivery don’t you also give your name number and address. Ugh.

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
joey2665 is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to joey2665 For This Useful Post:
FlyingScot (11-22-2020)
Old 11-22-2020, 08:19 PM   #31
baygo
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 528
Thanks: 133
Thanked 383 Times in 161 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by joey2665 View Post
I understand the privacy issue but if you make a reservation or go on a wait list, especially one that texts you like they have at t bones you give your name and number anyway. Additionally if you order take out or delivery don’t you also give your name number and address. Ugh.


Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
The public is a fickle mammal. If it is required of them to share accurate information in order to get what they want, they will do so. If on the other hand they get what they want and do not have to share, they won’t.

Back in September we dined at a restaurant in Acadia national Park. They asked us for name and number on the way in as walkins. I learned later that a member of the other couple we were dining with provided them with fake info. They were fed up with political texts.
baygo is offline  
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to baygo For This Useful Post:
joey2665 (11-22-2020), Nagigator (11-22-2020), TheRoBoat (11-23-2020)
Old 11-22-2020, 10:56 PM   #32
gillygirl
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 541
Thanks: 657
Thanked 228 Times in 143 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheTimeTraveler View Post
I believe all Restaurants in the State of New Hampshire have been taking names and phone numbers for the last week or two, so notifying affected customers may not have been a difficult task.

Let's hope they get everything cleaned up and are able to successfully open up again in a few weeks!

I want to thank them for doing the right thing under these no so ideal circumstances and wish them the best!
She said that no one took their contact info, so obviously not all restaurants are following the guidelines established by the state. Should restaurants be fined for not following the guidelines? This is a classic example of being forced to sit boy-girl-boy-girl at lunch in the junior high cafeteria because some students can’t behave. I realize some people hate regulations, but sometimes they’re imposed because a few don’t behave. Who do you blame...the scofflaws or the regulators?

Sent from my iPad using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
__________________
GG
gillygirl is online now  
Old 11-22-2020, 11:00 PM   #33
gillygirl
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 541
Thanks: 657
Thanked 228 Times in 143 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by baygo View Post
Mandate for restaurants to collect name and phone numbers of guests was rescinded due to an overwhelming amount of inaccurate/fake data collected. It turned out to be a tremendous waste of time because the public was not willing to share personal information. We are still encouraging our guests to write their phone number on the back of the credit card slip if they have concerns and would like to be notified in the event of an incident. Let’s hope we never have to call.
So perhaps a simple check of the phone number provided before service needs to happen. If the phone number doesn’t come back to someone in the party, no service.

Sent from my iPad using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
__________________
GG
gillygirl is online now  
The Following User Says Thank You to gillygirl For This Useful Post:
JEEPONLY (11-23-2020)
Old 11-22-2020, 11:25 PM   #34
Sue Doe-Nym
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 944
Thanks: 526
Thanked 502 Times in 249 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gillygirl View Post
So perhaps a simple check of the phone number provided before service needs to happen. If the phone number doesn’t come back to someone in the party, no service.

Sent from my iPad using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
That’s a great idea! It’s doubtful that anyone would take the time to implement it during a bustling mealtime, but that would keep people honest. Simple but smart.
Sue Doe-Nym is offline  
Old 11-23-2020, 12:06 AM   #35
gillygirl
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 541
Thanks: 657
Thanked 228 Times in 143 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sue Doe-Nym View Post
That’s a great idea! It’s doubtful that anyone would take the time to implement it during a bustling mealtime, but that would keep people honest. Simple but smart.
At this time of year, is anything really bustling there? Perhaps if a hefty fine were in their wheelhouse, they would take the time. I am not a huge advocate of fining businesses, but these are different times, and everyone, individuals and businesses, need to behave like they’re responsible parts of a larger community.

Sent from my iPad using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
__________________
GG
gillygirl is online now  
Old 11-23-2020, 07:36 AM   #36
longislander
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Moultonborough
Posts: 265
Thanks: 22
Thanked 57 Times in 43 Posts
Default

Quote:
So perhaps a simple check of the phone number provided before service needs to happen. If the phone number doesnít come back to someone in the party, no service.
So, if a married couple, that only has a landline phone at their home, presuming they have a phone (a law?), goes to a restaurant, and someone calls that phone number, and no answer, no service?
longislander is offline  
Old 11-23-2020, 08:10 AM   #37
gillygirl
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 541
Thanks: 657
Thanked 228 Times in 143 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by longislander View Post
So, if a married couple, that only has a landline phone at their home, presuming they have a phone (a law?), goes to a restaurant, and someone calls that phone number, and no answer, no service?
So take an address and check their id.

Sent from my iPad using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
__________________
GG
gillygirl is online now  
Old 11-23-2020, 08:13 AM   #38
longislander
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Moultonborough
Posts: 265
Thanks: 22
Thanked 57 Times in 43 Posts
Default

Quote:
So take an address and check their id.
They probably have an ID on them with an address. Now what?
longislander is offline  
Old 11-23-2020, 08:21 AM   #39
longislander
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Moultonborough
Posts: 265
Thanks: 22
Thanked 57 Times in 43 Posts
Default

Maybe this is a solution.

New Hampshire Privacy: What you need to know
There are four generally recognized invasion of privacy claims: (1) intrusion upon the plaintiff's physical and mental solitude or seclusion; (2) public disclosure of private facts; (3) appropriation, for the defendant's benefit or advantage, of the plaintiff's name or likeness; and (4) publicity that places the plaintiff in a false light in the public eye. New Hampshire recognizes the first three of these claims but has not yet recognized false-light invasion of privacy (Thomas v. Telegraph Publishing Co., 859 A.2d 1166 (N.H. 2004)).
longislander is offline  
Old 11-23-2020, 08:35 AM   #40
TheProfessor
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 662
Thanks: 16
Thanked 188 Times in 115 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gillygirl View Post
She said that no one took their contact info, so obviously not all restaurants are following the guidelines established by the state. Should restaurants be fined for not following the guidelines? This is a classic example of being forced to sit boy-girl-boy-girl at lunch in the junior high cafeteria because some students canít behave. I realize some people hate regulations, but sometimes theyíre imposed because a few donít behave. Who do you blame...the scofflaws or the regulators?
No Shirt
No Shoes
No ID

No Service
TheProfessor is offline  
Old 11-23-2020, 08:38 AM   #41
TheProfessor
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 662
Thanks: 16
Thanked 188 Times in 115 Posts
Default

Here are New Hampshire governor Sununu 's Executive and Emergency orders:

LINK

Does New Hampshire need another Emergency Order ?
TheProfessor is offline  
Old 11-23-2020, 09:30 AM   #42
Bigstan
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Waltham MA / Gilford NH
Posts: 350
Thanks: 9
Thanked 153 Times in 82 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by WinnisquamZ View Post
Drove by earlier in the week. Sign said closed to further notice. Change of heart?

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
The sign advertises take out Thanksgiving dinners to go.....
Bigstan is offline  
Old 11-23-2020, 10:58 AM   #43
JEEPONLY
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 622
Thanks: 322
Thanked 163 Times in 128 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gillygirl View Post
So perhaps a simple check of the phone number provided before service needs to happen. If the phone number doesnít come back to someone in the party, no service.

Sent from my iPad using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
Your concern is definitely in the right place.
You must know that no matter what you post, the odds are good someone will nit-pick for an opposing viewpoint.

No need to respond.
JEEPONLY is offline  
Old 11-23-2020, 10:59 AM   #44
longislander
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Moultonborough
Posts: 265
Thanks: 22
Thanked 57 Times in 43 Posts
Default

New Hampshire
"Emergency Order 74 - An order requiring persons to wear masks or cloth face coverings when in public spaces without physical distancing"

"NOW, THEREFORE, pursuant to Section 18 of Executive Order 2020-04 as extended by Executive Orders 2020-05, 2020-08, 2020-09, 2020-10, 2020-14, 2020-15, 2020-16, 2020-17, 2020-18, 2020-20, and 2020-21 it is hereby ordered, effective immediately, that:

5. This Order shall not apply to the following:

c) Any person consuming food or drink or sitting at a restaurant or table to eat or drink;

7. The provisions of this Order shall remain in effect through January 15, 2021. Given under my hand and seal at the Executive Chambers in Concord, this 19th day of November, in the year of Our Lord, two thousand and twenty, and the independence of the United States of America, two hundred and forty-four."

Gov. Sununu


Why not cover-up while eating ... like in California?

October 6, 2020 CBS News
"The California governor's office put out a tweet on Saturday advising that restaurant-goers keep their masks on while dining. "Going out to eat with members of your household this weekend?" the tweet reads. "Don't forget to keep your mask on in between bites. Do your part to keep those around you healthy."

Who says the country hasn't gone nuts!
longislander is offline  
Old 11-23-2020, 11:16 AM   #45
Billy Bob
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Tiera Verdi Fl & Moultonborough
Posts: 246
Thanks: 112
Thanked 116 Times in 70 Posts
Default They got a little sloppy

Went to the Bob House in late October and it was noticeably sloppy with requiring patrons to wear masks, folks walking in and moving about uncovered. The staff was compliant.
We decided not to return . Which is unfortunate as this is one of our favorite spots.
Time to get with the program or face bad outcomes.
Billy Bob is offline  
Old 11-23-2020, 12:23 PM   #46
longislander
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Moultonborough
Posts: 265
Thanks: 22
Thanked 57 Times in 43 Posts
Default

The wife and I have been going to the BobHouse every Friday evening for a couple of years. Yes ... just about every Friday evening. We also did take-out when that was the only alternative . From our purview, that establishment has always complied with the emergency orders. Masks are required to get in, even for take-out.

While dining inside, we have witnessed patrons going to the rest rooms without a mask. However, they were still compliant with the six foot distancing "rules" ... without a mask. CDC: "In every location, all employees need to either maintain at least 6 feet of distance from other people at all times, or wear a mask."

Patrons also comply. We book a reservation every Friday morning, by landline phone (Spectrum broadband cable) and still, are requested to fill out a slip of paper with name and number, at the restaurant. Patrons are not scarce, and their business is a very reputable. We also frequent other local (for us) restaurants, Buckeyes, Village Kitchen, Center Harbor diner, Canoe, (Gusto soon), and others and the BobHouse has been more stringent in compliance.

As soon as they re-open, they will do fine, as well as can be expected with covid and the ramifications.
longislander is offline  
Old 11-23-2020, 12:28 PM   #47
FlyingScot
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Tuftonboro and Sudbury, MA
Posts: 1,145
Thanks: 657
Thanked 510 Times in 301 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Bob View Post
Went to the Bob House in late October and it was noticeably sloppy with requiring patrons to wear masks, folks walking in and moving about uncovered. The staff was compliant.
We decided not to return . Which is unfortunate as this is one of our favorite spots.
Time to get with the program or face bad outcomes.
This is important. I wish the Bob House nothing but health and success, but we've stopped going to two of our favorite Mass places because they were too loose on COVID, even for takeout.

I hope Bob House will reopen soon and show their (newfound?) strictness on safety
FlyingScot is offline  
Old 11-23-2020, 12:28 PM   #48
baygo
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 528
Thanks: 133
Thanked 383 Times in 161 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gillygirl View Post
So perhaps a simple check of the phone number provided before service needs to happen. If the phone number doesnít come back to someone in the party, no service.

Sent from my iPad using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
As a host, server, or bartender in a restaurant the mission is to accommodate and encourage nonconfrontational comfortable experiences. I attempted your suggestion with a party of eight who showed up not wearing masks.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CH2oCr7gzhj/

We will reopen Wednesday after the clean up.
baygo is offline  
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to baygo For This Useful Post:
Biggd (11-23-2020), Hillcountry (11-23-2020), ishoot308 (11-23-2020), pondguy (11-23-2020), TheRoBoat (11-23-2020)
Old 11-23-2020, 12:54 PM   #49
Biggd
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Waltham Ma./Meredith NH
Posts: 2,790
Thanks: 1,253
Thanked 796 Times in 490 Posts
Thumbs up

Quote:
Originally Posted by baygo View Post
As a host, server, or bartender in a restaurant the mission is to accommodate and encourage nonconfrontational comfortable experiences. I attempted your suggestion with a party of eight who showed up not wearing masks.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CH2oCr7gzhj/

We will reopen Wednesday after the clean up.
Biggd is offline  
Old 11-23-2020, 01:35 PM   #50
Hillcountry
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: In the hills
Posts: 2,289
Thanks: 1,523
Thanked 750 Times in 447 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by baygo View Post
As a host, server, or bartender in a restaurant the mission is to accommodate and encourage nonconfrontational comfortable experiences. I attempted your suggestion with a party of eight who showed up not wearing masks.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CH2oCr7gzhj/

We will reopen Wednesday after the clean up.
LMAO! My ďdreamĒí scenario...
Hillcountry is offline  
Old 11-23-2020, 01:44 PM   #51
TheTimeTraveler
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 422
Thanks: 120
Thanked 136 Times in 72 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by longislander View Post
The wife and I have been going to the BobHouse every Friday evening for a couple of years. Yes ... just about every Friday evening. We also did take-out when that was the only alternative . From our purview, that establishment has always complied with the emergency orders. Masks are required to get in, even for take-out.

While dining inside, we have witnessed patrons going to the rest rooms without a mask. However, they were still compliant with the six foot distancing "rules" ... without a mask. CDC: "In every location, all employees need to either maintain at least 6 feet of distance from other people at all times, or wear a mask."

Patrons also comply. We book a reservation every Friday morning, by landline phone (Spectrum broadband cable) and still, are requested to fill out a slip of paper with name and number, at the restaurant. Patrons are not scarce, and their business is a very reputable. We also frequent other local (for us) restaurants, Buckeyes, Village Kitchen, Center Harbor diner, Canoe, (Gusto soon), and others and the BobHouse has been more stringent in compliance.

As soon as they re-open, they will do fine, as well as can be expected with covid and the ramifications.
Speaking of restaurant rest rooms; any restaurant (or pubic) rest room could be a source of Covid so it is important to wear a mask into any rest room (other than your own home).

Studies have shown that if anyone has Covid it then transfers to urine or feces and gets into the air. Municipalities using sewer systems know when their particular area has a Covid problem just by a study of their waste water facilities showing elevated Covid rates.
TheTimeTraveler is offline  
Old 11-23-2020, 02:34 PM   #52
Descant
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Merrimack and Welch Island
Posts: 2,533
Thanks: 743
Thanked 937 Times in 581 Posts
Default Irritating

Quote:
Originally Posted by gillygirl View Post
So perhaps a simple check of the phone number provided before service needs to happen. If the phone number doesnít come back to someone in the party, no service.
I refer you to the old thread where there were tons of complaints about people using their cell phone in the dining room. And how many people don't answer if it is not a recognized number? If I were making call backs, I would not be using the primary restaurant number that should be kept open for new reservations.
Descant is offline  
Old 11-23-2020, 03:20 PM   #53
joey2665
Senior Member
 
joey2665's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Meredith Bay & LI, NY
Posts: 2,835
Thanks: 843
Thanked 813 Times in 534 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Descant View Post
I refer you to the old thread where there were tons of complaints about people using their cell phone in the dining room. And how many people don't answer if it is not a recognized number? If I were making call backs, I would not be using the primary restaurant number that should be kept open for new reservations.
Really simple confirm the number by calling the phone number while they are standing in front of you before they have been seated in the dining area

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
joey2665 is offline  
Old 11-23-2020, 03:41 PM   #54
WinnisquamZ
Senior Member
 
WinnisquamZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 794
Thanks: 112
Thanked 278 Times in 177 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by baygo View Post
As a host, server, or bartender in a restaurant the mission is to accommodate and encourage nonconfrontational comfortable experiences. I attempted your suggestion with a party of eight who showed up not wearing masks.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CH2oCr7gzhj/

We will reopen Wednesday after the clean up.
“We will reopen Wednesday”. Are you teasing us or is this correct you are reopening?

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
WinnisquamZ is offline  
Old 11-23-2020, 04:17 PM   #55
baygo
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 528
Thanks: 133
Thanked 383 Times in 161 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by WinnisquamZ View Post
“We will reopen Wednesday”. Are you teasing us or is this correct you are reopening?

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
Referencing our heated outside bar.
baygo is offline  
Old 11-23-2020, 04:17 PM   #56
WinnisquamZ
Senior Member
 
WinnisquamZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 794
Thanks: 112
Thanked 278 Times in 177 Posts
Default

Deal

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
WinnisquamZ is offline  
Old 12-10-2020, 11:49 PM   #57
FlyingScot
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Tuftonboro and Sudbury, MA
Posts: 1,145
Thanks: 657
Thanked 510 Times in 301 Posts
Default

News update:

Bob House now reopen after a 1 month shut down due to covid.

Buckey's now closed due to an infected staff member.

Pine Cone now take out only, as a precautionary measure.

Be careful out there
FlyingScot is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to FlyingScot For This Useful Post:
Biggd (12-11-2020)
Old 12-11-2020, 06:25 PM   #58
C-Bass
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 88
Thanks: 1
Thanked 25 Times in 13 Posts
Default

Not Shocked about Buckeys. I've driven by and it looked packed.
C-Bass is offline  
Old 12-11-2020, 08:13 PM   #59
FlyingScot
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Tuftonboro and Sudbury, MA
Posts: 1,145
Thanks: 657
Thanked 510 Times in 301 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by C-Bass View Post
Not Shocked about Buckeys. I've driven by and it looked packed.
Yeah, I love Buckey's, especially the steak tips and the popcorn machine. But it was clear from drive-bys that they weren't taking this seriously.
FlyingScot is offline  
Old 12-11-2020, 08:37 PM   #60
joey2665
Senior Member
 
joey2665's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Meredith Bay & LI, NY
Posts: 2,835
Thanks: 843
Thanked 813 Times in 534 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingScot View Post
Yeah, I love Buckey's, especially the steak tips and the popcorn machine. But it was clear from drive-bys that they weren't taking this seriously.
You have x ray vision that you can see from the outside what’s going on inside. How do you know the ONE positive case from an employee didn’t get from home or someplace else.

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
joey2665 is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to joey2665 For This Useful Post:
gravy boat (12-12-2020)
Old 12-12-2020, 08:29 AM   #61
rsmlp
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 420
Thanks: 5
Thanked 151 Times in 73 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by joey2665 View Post
You have x ray vision that you can see from the outside what’s going on inside. How do you know the ONE positive case from an employee didn’t get from home or someplace else.

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
With the infection rate we're seeing now everywhere you have to be nuts to et indoors. Just not worth the risk.
rsmlp is offline  
Old 12-12-2020, 08:40 AM   #62
DEJ
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 390
Thanks: 278
Thanked 230 Times in 104 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rsmlp View Post
With the infection rate we're seeing now everywhere you have to be nuts to et indoors. Just not worth the risk.
IMO it is not much different than going to the grocery store or big box store.
DEJ is offline  
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to DEJ For This Useful Post:
gravy boat (12-12-2020), mhtranger (12-12-2020)
Old 12-12-2020, 08:52 AM   #63
joey2665
Senior Member
 
joey2665's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Meredith Bay & LI, NY
Posts: 2,835
Thanks: 843
Thanked 813 Times in 534 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rsmlp View Post
With the infection rate we're seeing now everywhere you have to be nuts to et indoors. Just not worth the risk.
Unless you are hunkered down in your house with no personal contact with anyone I completely disagree. Super market, doctors office any place people congregate are at best the same and in many cases worse that eating out. It’s really simple as I keep saying just leave it up to individuals to decide.

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
joey2665 is offline  
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to joey2665 For This Useful Post:
Bumble2249 (12-12-2020), gravy boat (12-12-2020)
Old 12-12-2020, 09:38 AM   #64
Biggd
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Waltham Ma./Meredith NH
Posts: 2,790
Thanks: 1,253
Thanked 796 Times in 490 Posts
Default

Well, as we can see, many individuals are not following suggested guidelines. So this is how we got to this point. I do agree that people need to go about their business but many disregard the the guidelines because they think it's an infringement on their freedoms or they think it's all "fake news".
Quote:
Originally Posted by joey2665 View Post
Unless you are hunkered down in your house with no personal contact with anyone I completely disagree. Super market, doctors office any place people congregate are at best the same and in many cases worse that eating out. Itís really simple as I keep saying just leave it up to individuals to decide.


Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
Sent from my SM-G950U using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
Biggd is offline  
Old 12-12-2020, 10:42 AM   #65
VitaBene
Senior Member
 
VitaBene's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Moultonborough
Posts: 3,318
Thanks: 1,428
Thanked 1,521 Times in 763 Posts
Default Thank you

Quote:
Originally Posted by joey2665 View Post
You have x ray vision that you can see from the outside whatís going on inside. How do you know the ONE positive case from an employee didnít get from home or someplace else.

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
Buckey's had been following protocols that were mandated by the State regarding table separation and mask requirements. I witnessed it personally inside.
VitaBene is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to VitaBene For This Useful Post:
gravy boat (12-12-2020)
Old 12-12-2020, 10:56 AM   #66
joey2665
Senior Member
 
joey2665's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Meredith Bay & LI, NY
Posts: 2,835
Thanks: 843
Thanked 813 Times in 534 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by VitaBene View Post
Buckey's had been following protocols that were mandated by the State regarding table separation and mask requirements. I witnessed it personally inside.
Thank you. Right away people look to through the establishment under the bus and that is not fair.

These places are people’s livelihoods and to thought out aspersions is wreck less.

Who knows were the one employee contracted the virus.

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
joey2665 is offline  
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to joey2665 For This Useful Post:
DEJ (12-12-2020), gravy boat (12-12-2020)
Old 12-12-2020, 11:05 AM   #67
pondguy
Senior Member
 
pondguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 68
Thanks: 403
Thanked 97 Times in 75 Posts
Default

Lets all get the vaccine and put all this behind us !!
pondguy is offline  
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to pondguy For This Useful Post:
Biggd (12-12-2020), DEJ (12-12-2020)
Old 12-12-2020, 11:06 AM   #68
gillygirl
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 541
Thanks: 657
Thanked 228 Times in 143 Posts
Default

What Iím interested in is whether or not people are making those around them aware of their habits. Iím back in FL, where many restaurants are operating close to normal, with the exception of masks on employees and on customers while theyíre moving about the restaurants. My sister and her family are going to karaoke several times a week, and my brother-in-law has admitted the places are sometimes packed. Many participants are furloughed Disney performers who really project while theyíre singing. My familyís attendance at these events now makes me wonder if I should stop doing things with them. But theyíre my only point of human contact. So my point is are you (the plural you, not anyone specifically) unintentionally isolating someone in your family because of your behavior?


Sent from my iPad using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
__________________
GG
gillygirl is online now  
Old 12-12-2020, 11:15 AM   #69
FlyingScot
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Tuftonboro and Sudbury, MA
Posts: 1,145
Thanks: 657
Thanked 510 Times in 301 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by VitaBene View Post
Buckey's had been following protocols that were mandated by the State regarding table separation and mask requirements. I witnessed it personally inside.
I was referring to their parking lot tent over the summer. There were too many people there for my comfort. I look forward to dining there next summer, post-vaccine. It's a great place
FlyingScot is offline  
Old 12-12-2020, 11:27 AM   #70
Biggd
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Waltham Ma./Meredith NH
Posts: 2,790
Thanks: 1,253
Thanked 796 Times in 490 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gillygirl View Post
What Iím interested in is whether or not people are making those around them aware of their habits. Iím back in FL, where many restaurants are operating close to normal, with the exception of masks on employees and on customers while theyíre moving about the restaurants. My sister and her family are going to karaoke several times a week, and my brother-in-law has admitted the places are sometimes packed. Many participants are furloughed Disney performers who really project while theyíre singing. My familyís attendance at these events now makes me wonder if I should stop doing things with them. But theyíre my only point of human contact. So my point is are you (the plural you, not anyone specifically) unintentionally isolating someone in your family because of your behavior?


Sent from my iPad using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
I have some first responders in my family that isolate themselves from my wife and I.
I have a son inlaw who's a firefighter and a daughter who is an RN.
They have to get tested quite often as they are always coming into contact with people that have Covid.
My son inlaw is being tested on Monday and all his kids are sick this week so we will be staying far away from them!
Biggd is offline  
Old 12-12-2020, 12:11 PM   #71
rsmlp
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 420
Thanks: 5
Thanked 151 Times in 73 Posts
Default what?

Quote:
Originally Posted by joey2665 View Post
Unless you are hunkered down in your house with no personal contact with anyone I completely disagree. Super market, doctors office any place people congregate are at best the same and in many cases worse that eating out. It’s really simple as I keep saying just leave it up to individuals to decide.
You wear a MASK at a grocery store or the doctor's office but you can't eat or drink through one!
rsmlp is offline  
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to rsmlp For This Useful Post:
gillygirl (12-12-2020), pondguy (12-12-2020)
Old 12-12-2020, 01:18 PM   #72
joey2665
Senior Member
 
joey2665's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Meredith Bay & LI, NY
Posts: 2,835
Thanks: 843
Thanked 813 Times in 534 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rsmlp View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by joey2665 View Post
Unless you are hunkered down in your house with no personal contact with anyone I completely disagree. Super market, doctors office any place people congregate are at best the same and in many cases worse that eating out. It’s really simple as I keep saying just leave it up to individuals to decide.
You wear a MASK at a grocery store or the doctor's office but you can't eat or drink through one!
Really? If you want to you can. I’ve seen many just pull there mask down to place the food in their mouth. And many times I walk they places with people improperly wear masks. Again stay home and don’t help the local restaurants if you do not want to that’s your choice certainly not mine. I will stay vigilant but patron the local establishments.

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
joey2665 is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to joey2665 For This Useful Post:
DEJ (12-12-2020)
Old 12-12-2020, 01:32 PM   #73
gillygirl
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 541
Thanks: 657
Thanked 228 Times in 143 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by joey2665 View Post
Really? If you want to you can. I’ve seen many just pull there mask down to place the food in their mouth. And many times I walk they places with people improperly wear masks. Again stay home and don’t help the local restaurants if you do not want to that’s your choice certainly not mine. I will stay vigilant but patron the local establishments.

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
It’s great that you’re vigilant while visiting local establishments. But why tell just cautious people to stay at home? Why not also make that suggestion to people who go out but aren’t vigilant? They’re the ones who are propagating it.

Sent from my iPad using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
__________________
GG
gillygirl is online now  
Old 12-12-2020, 02:01 PM   #74
Sue Doe-Nym
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 944
Thanks: 526
Thanked 502 Times in 249 Posts
Default The answer is take out

Many of us want to support the local businesses, so instead of beating up on each other, just do takeout at your favorite restaurants. VK, Common Man Ashland, Lyons Den are just a few, but certainly there are many more that do a great job. Because of the rising COVID numbers, we have stopped eating out, but takeout with hot food, not salads, seems to be a safe bet. Donít forget the tip! 🙄
Sue Doe-Nym is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to Sue Doe-Nym For This Useful Post:
FlyingScot (12-12-2020)
Old 12-12-2020, 02:02 PM   #75
joey2665
Senior Member
 
joey2665's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Meredith Bay & LI, NY
Posts: 2,835
Thanks: 843
Thanked 813 Times in 534 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gillygirl View Post
It’s great that you’re vigilant while visiting local establishments. But why tell just cautious people to stay at home? Why not also make that suggestion to people who go out but aren’t vigilant? They’re the ones who are propagating it.

Sent from my iPad using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
It’s not a matter of cautious people. Everyone has to do what’s comfortable for them that’s what I’m saying. If you’re not comfortable going to a restaurant don’t go if you’re not comfortable going to the grocery store don’t go if you’re not comfortable going to target don’t go but if you are comfortable going to these places and being vigilant by all means go support the economy support the local businesses. Again it’s your choice it should not be everyone’s choice everybody should be able to make their own choice

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
joey2665 is offline  
Old 12-12-2020, 02:37 PM   #76
gillygirl
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 541
Thanks: 657
Thanked 228 Times in 143 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by joey2665 View Post
It’s not a matter of cautious people. Everyone has to do what’s comfortable for them that’s what I’m saying. If you’re not comfortable going to a restaurant don’t go if you’re not comfortable going to the grocery store don’t go if you’re not comfortable going to target don’t go but if you are comfortable going to these places and being vigilant by all means go support the economy support the local businesses. Again it’s your choice it should not be everyone’s choice everybody should be able to make their own choice

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
You didn’t answer my question. Why not tell people who aren’t vigilant to stay home?

Sent from my iPad using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
__________________
GG
gillygirl is online now  
Old 12-12-2020, 02:50 PM   #77
joey2665
Senior Member
 
joey2665's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Meredith Bay & LI, NY
Posts: 2,835
Thanks: 843
Thanked 813 Times in 534 Posts
Default Local Moultonboro Restaurant Closes - Covid

Quote:
Originally Posted by gillygirl View Post
You didn’t answer my question. Why not tell people who aren’t vigilant to stay home?

Sent from my iPad using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
I don’t belief in telling people what to do. If they break the law or a guideline it’s on them. If they want to take a risk and not wear a mask that again is on them. If I wear mine I should be good.

Should I also run around taking cigarettes out of people’s mouth’s or taking candy bars out of peoples mouths that I think might have diabetes

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
joey2665 is offline  
Old 12-12-2020, 02:52 PM   #78
ishoot308
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Gilford, NH / Welch Island
Posts: 5,089
Thanks: 1,945
Thanked 4,117 Times in 1,583 Posts
Default

I donít understand what everyone is bickering about....local state government which is following federal and CDC guidelines has said that itís OK for restaurants to be open with certain protocols in place such as distancing tables and the use of plexiglass barriers as well as wearing mask to and from your table. No one is doing anything wrong by visiting / supporting local area restaurants.

To those who say itís not safe or wrong...fine, stay home. Everyone else wants to lead as normal a life as possible by following the recommended guidelines set forth by our elected officials.

Case closed!

Dan
__________________
It's Always Sunny On Welch Island!!
ishoot308 is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to ishoot308 For This Useful Post:
joey2665 (12-12-2020)
Old 12-12-2020, 03:03 PM   #79
Newbiesaukee
Senior Member
 
Newbiesaukee's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Coral Gables, winter; Long Island, summer
Posts: 1,161
Thanks: 744
Thanked 446 Times in 230 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ishoot308 View Post
I donít understand what everyone is bickering about....local state government which is following federal and CDC guidelines has said that itís OK for restaurants to be open with certain protocols in place such as distancing tables and the use of plexiglass barriers as well as wearing mask to and from your table. No one is doing anything wrong by visiting / supporting local area restaurants.

To those who say itís not safe or wrong...fine, stay home. Everyone else wants to lead as normal a life as possible by following the recommended guidelines set forth by our elected officials.

Case closed!

Dan
The case would be closed IF everyone would follow the recommended guidelines. That has not been the case as some pick and choose which guidelines are acceptable to them.
__________________


"You're only young once, but you can be immature forever."
Newbiesaukee is offline  
Old 12-12-2020, 03:08 PM   #80
gillygirl
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 541
Thanks: 657
Thanked 228 Times in 143 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by joey2665 View Post
I don’t belief in telling people what to do. If they break the law or a guideline it’s on them. If they want to take a risk and not wear a mask that again is on them. If I wear mine I should be good.

Should I also run around taking cigarettes out of people’s mouth’s or taking candy bars out of peoples mouths that I think might have diabetes

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
But you’ve consistently told people who aren’t comfortable to stay at home, so really you are okay with telling people what to do.

Sent from my iPad using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
__________________
GG
gillygirl is online now  
Old 12-12-2020, 03:18 PM   #81
TheTimeTraveler
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 422
Thanks: 120
Thanked 136 Times in 72 Posts
Default

It's a sad fact that a whole lot of people are going to become infected between now and August of 2021. The direct result will be a lot of pain, suffering, and death because of it.

The Vaccine can't get here fast enough.....

Everyone needs to take their own prudent precautions until such time as it becomes safe again.

There are plenty of believers still out there that think this Corona Virus is some type of hoax (also there are many folks who don't believe the Holocaust was ever real). You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink....
TheTimeTraveler is offline  
Old 12-12-2020, 03:20 PM   #82
Bumble2249
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 202
Thanks: 198
Thanked 50 Times in 39 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DEJ View Post
IMO it is not much different than going to the grocery store or big box store.
It's actually SAFER than going to a grocery store or big box store.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
Using Tapatalk
Bumble2249 is offline  
Old 12-12-2020, 03:39 PM   #83
joey2665
Senior Member
 
joey2665's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Meredith Bay & LI, NY
Posts: 2,835
Thanks: 843
Thanked 813 Times in 534 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gillygirl View Post
But you’ve consistently told people who aren’t comfortable to stay at home, so really you are okay with telling people what to do.

Sent from my iPad using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
No that’s not what I said. If said over and over it’s your choice. But I’m not understanding your statement. I don’t think people will go out if they aren’t comfortable. But if they want to against it’s their decision to make no one else’s.

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
joey2665 is offline  
Old 12-12-2020, 03:46 PM   #84
ishoot308
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Gilford, NH / Welch Island
Posts: 5,089
Thanks: 1,945
Thanked 4,117 Times in 1,583 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Newbiesaukee View Post
The case would be closed IF everyone would follow the recommended guidelines. That has not been the case as some pick and choose which guidelines are acceptable to them.
Not true...at least not as far as restaurants are concerned. They either enforce and follow guidelines or they get shutdown. Itís that simple!

It seems like some on this forum want to shame people for visiting local restaurants and supporting them. I say get a life!

Dan
__________________
It's Always Sunny On Welch Island!!
ishoot308 is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to ishoot308 For This Useful Post:
joey2665 (12-12-2020)
Old 12-12-2020, 04:37 PM   #85
gillygirl
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 541
Thanks: 657
Thanked 228 Times in 143 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by joey2665 View Post
No that’s not what I said. If said over and over it’s your choice. But I’m not understanding your statement. I don’t think people will go out if they aren’t comfortable. But if they want to against it’s their decision to make no one else’s.

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
Check your post #33 in the ice hockey thread. You definitely said it there and variations of that in 3 other posts between this thread and that one. You’re very dismissive of people who are on the side of more, not less, caution. And intransigent with regards to even seeing the other side. The facts are in for less caution...it leads to more cases.

Sent from my iPad using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
__________________
GG
gillygirl is online now  
Old 12-12-2020, 04:47 PM   #86
joey2665
Senior Member
 
joey2665's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Meredith Bay & LI, NY
Posts: 2,835
Thanks: 843
Thanked 813 Times in 534 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gillygirl View Post
Check your post #33 in the ice hockey thread. You definitely said it there and variations of that in 3 other posts between this thread and that one. You’re very dismissive of people who are on the side of more, not less, caution. And intransigent with regards to even seeing the other side. The facts are in for less caution...it leads to more cases.

Sent from my iPad using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
No I am not. I am so over this. My point has always been do what’s good for you and I’ll do what’s good for me while following the rules. I will not put my life on hold it’s too short as it is and I will continue to support the local establishments.

It’s YOUR CHOICE to go out or stay quarantined. Don’t dismiss me because we have differing opinions on this, I understand your opinion I just disagree with it which is my purgative.

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
joey2665 is offline  
Old 12-12-2020, 05:40 PM   #87
gillygirl
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 541
Thanks: 657
Thanked 228 Times in 143 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by joey2665 View Post
No I am not. I am so over this. My point has always been do what’s good for you and I’ll do what’s good for me while following the rules. I will not put my life on hold it’s too short as it is and I will continue to support the local establishments.

It’s YOUR CHOICE to go out or stay quarantined. Don’t dismiss me because we have differing opinions on this, I understand your opinion I just disagree with it which is my purgative.

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
You told some people to stay home, then said you wouldn’t tell people what to do. I’m not dismissing you, I’m pointing out the inconsistencies in some of your statements. That’s my prerogative.

Sent from my iPad using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
__________________
GG
gillygirl is online now  
Old 12-12-2020, 05:53 PM   #88
joey2665
Senior Member
 
joey2665's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Meredith Bay & LI, NY
Posts: 2,835
Thanks: 843
Thanked 813 Times in 534 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gillygirl View Post
You told some people to stay home, then said you wouldn’t tell people what to do. I’m not dismissing you, I’m pointing out the inconsistencies in some of your statements. That’s my prerogative.

Sent from my iPad using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
I said if your not comfortable stay home it’s your choice but not mine.

Read ALL my posts you are taking sentences out of context. Read the whole post and all of them. Have a great night

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
joey2665 is offline  
Old 12-12-2020, 06:43 PM   #89
JEEPONLY
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 622
Thanks: 322
Thanked 163 Times in 128 Posts
Default Ha - ha

My wife won't let me watch UFC- but that's OK, now!
JEEPONLY is offline  
Old 12-12-2020, 06:45 PM   #90
gillygirl
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 541
Thanks: 657
Thanked 228 Times in 143 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by joey2665 View Post
I said if your not comfortable stay home it’s your choice but not mine.

Read ALL my posts you are taking sentences out of context. Read the whole post and all of them. Have a great night

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
I have read all your posts. And I completely agree that the economy cannot afford to be shut down again, and I don’t think the psyche of the populace can afford it either. I think it’s perfectly reasonable to go out while following guidance and mandates. What I take umbrage with is your inability to call out people who won’t follow the guidance and mandates. You tell people who are uncomfortable to stay home, but won’t tell the same to people who are irresponsible with their behavior. It’s the irresponsible ones who are propagating this situation, and pushing us toward stricter mandates. I’m in central FL, and there were roads gridlocked before Thanksgiving because of people checking into gated communities. Now the daily cases are up roughly 50%. My point in my interaction with you is to see if you will agree that some people need to take this more seriously. But you won’t. You will only tell people who are uncomfortable to stay home. You’re very one-sided. Thus why I called you intransigent.

Sent from my iPad using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
__________________
GG
gillygirl is online now  
Old 12-12-2020, 06:52 PM   #91
joey2665
Senior Member
 
joey2665's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Meredith Bay & LI, NY
Posts: 2,835
Thanks: 843
Thanked 813 Times in 534 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gillygirl View Post
I have read all your posts. And I completely agree that the economy cannot afford to be shut down again, and I don’t think the psyche of the populace can afford it either. I think it’s perfectly reasonable to go out while following guidance and mandates. What I take umbrage with is your inability to call out people who won’t follow the guidance and mandates. You tell people who are uncomfortable to stay home, but won’t tell the same to people who are irresponsible with their behavior. It’s the irresponsible ones who are propagating this situation, and pushing us toward stricter mandates. I’m in central FL, and there were roads gridlocked before Thanksgiving because of people checking into gated communities. Now the daily cases are up roughly 50%. My point in my interaction with you is to see if you will agree that some people need to take this more seriously. But you won’t. You will only tell people who are uncomfortable to stay home. You’re very one-sided. Thus why I called you intransigent.

Sent from my iPad using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
You are rambling. I didn’t tell people that are uncomfortable to stay home I said it’s your choice. While we are at it why would a comfortable person stay home or a person that is uncomfortable go out? You make no sense.

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
joey2665 is offline  
Old 12-12-2020, 07:14 PM   #92
gillygirl
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 541
Thanks: 657
Thanked 228 Times in 143 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by joey2665 View Post
You are rambling. I didn’t tell people that are uncomfortable to stay home I said it’s your choice. While we are at it why would a comfortable person stay home or a person that is uncomfortable go out? You make no sense.

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
You actually did tell people who were uncomfortable to stay home. You are not only guilty of denial, but of projecting. But you’ve proved my point.

Sent from my iPad using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
__________________
GG
gillygirl is online now  
Old 12-12-2020, 07:19 PM   #93
joey2665
Senior Member
 
joey2665's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Meredith Bay & LI, NY
Posts: 2,835
Thanks: 843
Thanked 813 Times in 534 Posts
Default Local Moultonboro Restaurant Closes - Covid

Quote:
Originally Posted by gillygirl View Post
You actually did tell people who were uncomfortable to stay home. You are not only guilty of denial, but of projecting. But you’ve proved my point.

Sent from my iPad using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
You are so obtuse. Grow up your acting like a petulant child. Use yours god given brain and read everything I’ve sad. Stay home don’t stay home I don’t care you’re comfortable you’re uncomfortable I don’t really care I’ll go about my life you go about yours I have not proved any of your points and I certainly am not in denial and I know what I said and I know what I meant when I said what I said it. Again everything is your choice. But you didn’t answer my question if you’re uncomfortable going out why would you go out?

Additionally, I’m finished listening to your ramblings if you want to comment more please be my guest you’re just gonna go around in circles.

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
joey2665 is offline  
Old 12-12-2020, 07:26 PM   #94
gillygirl
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 541
Thanks: 657
Thanked 228 Times in 143 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by joey2665 View Post
You are so obtuse. Grow up your acting like a petulant child. Use yours god given brain and read everything I’ve sad. Stay home don’t stay home I don’t care you’re comfortable you’re uncomfortable I don’t really care I’ll go about my life you go about yours I have not proved any of your points and I certainly am not in denial and I know what I said and I know what I meant when I said what I said it. Again everything is your choice. But you didn’t answer my question if you’re uncomfortable going out why would you go out?

Additionally, I’m finished listening to your ramblings if you want to comment more please be my guest you’re just gonna go around in circles.

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
If this post isn’t a classic example of projecting, I don’t know what is.

Sent from my iPad using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
__________________
GG
gillygirl is online now  
Old 12-12-2020, 07:34 PM   #95
joey2665
Senior Member
 
joey2665's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Meredith Bay & LI, NY
Posts: 2,835
Thanks: 843
Thanked 813 Times in 534 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gillygirl View Post
If this post isn’t a classic example of projecting, I don’t know what is.

Sent from my iPad using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
Wasn’t going to reply but I don’t appreciate the insults.

Please now I’m using defense mechanisms. Good info from a dime store psychologist.

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
joey2665 is offline  
Old 12-12-2020, 07:41 PM   #96
gillygirl
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 541
Thanks: 657
Thanked 228 Times in 143 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by joey2665 View Post
Wasn’t going to reply but I don’t appreciate the insults.

Please now I’m using defense mechanisms. Good info from a dime store psychologist.

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
If you want to continue, PM me. Otherwise, bye.

Sent from my iPad using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
__________________
GG
gillygirl is online now  
Old 12-12-2020, 08:06 PM   #97
joey2665
Senior Member
 
joey2665's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Meredith Bay & LI, NY
Posts: 2,835
Thanks: 843
Thanked 813 Times in 534 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gillygirl View Post
If you want to continue, PM me. Otherwise, bye.

Sent from my iPad using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
No thanks I will not waste my valuable breath on a useless conversation

Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
joey2665 is offline  
Old 12-12-2020, 08:12 PM   #98
Sue Doe-Nym
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 944
Thanks: 526
Thanked 502 Times in 249 Posts
Default And the winner is.....?

My father, who was pretty smart, used to say that the one who wins the argument is the one who stops responding.
Sue Doe-Nym is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to Sue Doe-Nym For This Useful Post:
pondguy (12-13-2020)
Old 12-12-2020, 10:40 PM   #99
upthesaukee
Senior Member
 
upthesaukee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Alton Bay
Posts: 5,194
Blog Entries: 2
Thanks: 1,941
Thanked 1,698 Times in 941 Posts
Default My dad said....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sue Doe-Nym View Post
My father, who was pretty smart, used to say that the one who wins the argument is the one who stops responding.
And my dad said he who speaks last, Wins!😁

Of course, a lot of time, he was saying "Yes, dear."

Dave

PS, back to the sidelines.
__________________
I Live Here... I am always UPTHESAUKEE !!!!
upthesaukee is offline  
Old 12-12-2020, 11:12 PM   #100
gillygirl
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 541
Thanks: 657
Thanked 228 Times in 143 Posts
Default

Commenting on the many economic and social problems that American society now confronts, Newsweek columnist Robert J. Samuelson recently wrote: "We face a choice between a society where people accept modest sacrifices for a common good or a more contentious society where groups selfishly protect their own benefits."


Sent from my iPad using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
__________________
GG
gillygirl is online now  
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:14 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions Inc.

This page was generated in 0.95801 seconds