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Old 01-01-2020, 11:34 AM   #1
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Default Skiing this week?

How is the snow at Bretton Woods and Gunstock? Iím sure not great, but is it skiable?
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Old 01-01-2020, 02:38 PM   #2
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I live across the lake in Wolfeboro and we received almost 12Ē of snow/sleet. Gunstock may have less but should have good skiing. We have excellent conditions in Wolfeboro as we didnít get rain,
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Try these links

http://www.gunstock.com/

https://www.brettonwoods.com/alpine_...now_conditions

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Usually avoid the crowd as I had a serious accident a decade ago when someone ran into me from the rear. I had my left humorus shattered into 13 pieces!
Also someone ran into me while I was waiting in the lift line resulting a coma for two days and massive migraines for years! I'm fine now.
Both happens in peak periods. So I avoid the crowds.
Due to advance snowmaking, I think you will find conditions surprisingly delightful at most ski areas. Gunstock been phenomenal in the past few years!
I ski at Gunstock weekdays and occasionally ski Cannon and WV. Usually spend a month at Bridger Bowl in Bozeman.
Haven't been to Bretton Woods in decades. Would like to spend a day there if its not busy. I hear it is crowded yet the conditions are great!
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Hey, here's a good article with a lot of photos about snow-making ...... 'How Killington Makes its Snow' ....... Feb 21, NY Times.
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Hey, here's a good article with a lot of photos about snow-making ...... 'How Killington Makes its Snow' ....... Feb 21, NY Times.
We love Lake Winni in the summer but Killington is our home. Killingtons snow making capabilities are outstanding which is why they are the first to open and last to close in the East. Picked up 7 inches today and still snowing. Put the new fresh on top of all the man made....Tomorrow is going to be a really good ski day.
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Default ..... real snow is here!

Monday, April 27, 2020; hey there yo-yo-yo, check this out, on the www.waterville.com/cams ...... winter is back ..... the ground there at the bottom of the slopes has 2-4" of wet slushy new natural snow ..... is real natural snow, not to be confused with powered water and cold temps, generated expensive granulated ice pellets, "snow" cover.
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Default ....... pray for snow!

Tuesday, December 1, 2020: 58-degrees and it has been raining very heavy throughout the last 18-hours with something like two or three inches of rainfall.

Enough rain so the 7-acre Corcoran's Pond, owned by the town, had three 4x8' sheets of heavy plywood held in place by about 5 steel pipes-each, five foot length, get knocked over by the over-full lake water. The four or five 2" or 3" steel pipes were all bent over 90-degrees+ by the water. It's a type of safety dam water release buffer on the top of the concrete dam so the plywood atop the dam will break out before the concrete dam itself suffers concrete failure damage, and it did what it is supposed to do. Is highly unusual, like a 5-10-15 year event for this to happen because usually someone will remove the 4x4" outflow wood blocks when a big rainfall is imminent. The wood blocks were apparently not removed by someone, and the plywood sheets and steel pipes broke out, releasing what had to be a whole heck of a lot of water going down Snow's Brook ...... water over the dam!

There is absolutely no natural snow cover on the ground anywhere, around here, and this www.waterville.com/cams is what it looks like after what was probably the warmest, no-snow-month of November for the last 11,000-years.
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Saturday, Dec 5: Way-to-go Waterville Valley DPW ...... am very surprised to see the three washed-out upper dam panels have been totally repaired, and a dam good repair job it is, too ..... w/ same plywood, new plastic and new pipes. Was expecting the pond to be three feet below level for the entire winter but the water level is already pretty much back to where it should be. A ready to work dpw is a BIG IMPORTANT SERVICE for any town.
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Everybody ......... Pray for Snow! ...... so the Waterville parking lots will become filled with BMW's w/ Massachusetts license plates ....... Massachusetts - BMW big money ....... bring it here! ....... the skiing will soon be "totally excellent!"

Friday, Dec 4, 2020; 8:48-am, 38-degrees and overcast dark gray sky: Waterville opens, first day of the ski season, am seeing a few people with skis walking around and riding the chairlift in the moving webcam shot.

www.waterville.com/snow-report-maps The snow report from the ski area shows the temperature as 29-degrees and partly sunny while my thermometer, a mercury outside window mount about 1.5-miles from the ski area shows it as 38-degrees and very gray, total cloudy sky above Mt Tecumseh ..... so's who you gonna believe, here!
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Exclamation ...... WV electric power outage

From about 10:22 to 11:55 this morning, Saturday January 16, 2021, the electric power was down here in Waterville Valley most likely due to the wet, slushy snowfall and 20-mph wind. It was a somewhat busy day for this pandemic ski season with a pretty good number of skiers/riders hitting the slopes.

Apparently the two running chairlifts must have a back-up generator or something so's it can slowly unload everyone on the lifts when the power is down before it is closed to use.

It's 12:17 now and the lifts still are not running despite the local power having come back on at 11:55. Do not know why?

Talk about bad timing for the ski lifts and the power to go down, 10:22 - 11:55-am is like totally prime time on a holiday Saturday during this pandemic ski season. The timing for this Saturday shut-down and all could not get too much worse.

Oh well ...... there's always cross country skiing or hiking all the WMNF trails all around here as opposed to skiing a $102 non-refundable lift ticket. Got to wonder if that is totally true about being non-refundable?

And, thanks to a large back-up generator the town water system never ever stops working so the sink and the toilet will always have running water.

12:28: .... and the two lifts are running again. Looks like very few skiers/riders out there on the slopes so's people probably left, or something.

The temp here right now is 34 at altitude-1800' and the Forum weather page says it is 37 at Weirs Beach where it looks like it is raining, lightly, in Wolfeboro.
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From the Town of Wolfeboro, Abenaki Ski Area website it says in red letters: "Saturday, January 16 - Abenaki Ski Area is closed today due to the combination of warm temperatures and rain. As much as we want to be open today, we do not want to compromise the base of snow we have to ensure we can continue skiing for the remainder of the year. We will re-open tomorrow Sunday, January 17th."
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Old 01-16-2021, 12:28 PM   #10
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Oh well ...... there's always cross country skiing or hiking all the WMNF trails all around here as opposed to skiing a $102 non-refundable lift ticket. Got to wonder if that is totally true about being non-refundable?
Bummer. If I lost hours due to lifts being down, and the mountain told me to pound sand, I'd dispute the charge with the credit card company. Takes just a few minutes online or on the phone. The cardholder wins almost every time.
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Default Gunstock, Cannon, WV

The skiing has been great for what the weather was worth.

I notice the crowd is up weekdays post-COVID. And the crowd is down on weekends.

I avoid the Panorama lift at Gunstock. People are not adhering to COVID restrictions. Cannon enforced the restrictions. WV skiers are more forgiven.

It would not surprise me if sales are better than expected at the resorts.
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I avoid the Panorama lift at Gunstock. People are not adhering to COVID restrictions. Cannon enforced the restrictions. WV skiers are more forgiven.
Wow, I am surprised at your Gunstock statement as that has not been our experience. We have been multiple times and thought the staff was doing a good job reminding people to pull their masks up. It's unfortunate that it is their responsibility to remind people to mask up as people should be responsible for their own actions to help protect our ski season. The majority of the skiers we saw were masked up both on weekends and mid-week.
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This month, Iíve skied Cannon and Gunstock (weekdays only). At both areas, mask compliance in the lift lines has been excellent. There has been some crowding around the Panorama lift at Gunstock which seems to grow to a steady rate to about 11:00. Even then, the lines are not long by traditional standards, but for an old geezer like me with comorbitities, it becomes uncomfortable and I either move to the other lifts (which have generally been uncrowded) or I just go home and soak my weary bones.

Cannon today was great. No lines and they have a lot more snow up there. Some scratchy places in high traffic areas, but still very good conditions for Cannon.

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Sunday, January 24, 2021, 10:40-am: Waterville Valley has temperature about 13-degrees and winds 10-20 with big gusts up to 30-mph.

The White's Peak main 4-seater quad lift is closed due to the wind.

The Valley Run 4-seater quad is running, is in use, with skiers/riders lined up to use it.

The Green Peak 3-seater lift has yet to run so far, this ski season.

Is WINDYVILLE VALLEY a happening name, or what, it sho 'nuf is windy out there, right now. .....
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Sunapee and Wachusett (in Mass) have both been great for mask compliance
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Default The snow is so good right now

The skiing is extremely good right now. The snow is so good it gives you a huge desire for more and more. I cant remember when the skiing in New England has been this consistently great. If you ski and have not been out, get out there before Mother Nature takes it all away from us.
I wish all of our winters could be like this one.
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Default 1st snow: November 3, 2021; 4-pm

About 33-degrees and snowing kinda heavy here ..... no kidding! ....

www.waterville.com/cams ....

Exactly, what is this white stuff and what the h... happened to summer? .....

Doesn't that web cam shot, just off to the left there, look like a great location for a new luxurious hotel or what! ... a great big welcome to Hotel Waterville! ... ... in partnership with the White Mountain National Forest.

... build a road! ...
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So, what's new at Waterville Valley?

Well, this item about removing the staircase in the main base lodge caught my eye. The November 1, 2021 Waterville Valley Wig Wag, a local monthly newspaper, has two paragraphs talking about the lodges in its front page report 'What will skiing look like this year?'
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Lodges

"The base lodge is going through another renovation this year. The stairs to the second floor have been removed due to their age, but also to make more room on the bottom floor. This year the bottom floor can be used to boot up and place belongings into one of the 200 new lockers. Additionally, the resort is installing 100 day-use lockers into Top Dog Rental Shop. You rent a locker for a day and can open it several times a day. Seasonal locker rentals will be available again this season and can be found on the lower level of Top Dog Rental Shop. If all the lockers are full, belongings can be stored at a bag-check in guest services. Both of these are for-fee services.

Once booted up, you return outside to access the ski lifts. Second floor access is only via the courtyard doors or by the carpet lifts. There is no storage space on the second and third floor and all the cubbies have been removed. These two floors are for warmup and food service only."
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So, what the heck does this all mean and how will it be different from last year? I do not really get it, especially about removing the staircase, and "Second floor access is only via the courtyard doors or by carpet lifts." ..... like, what is up with this? This removing a staircase seems at least a wee bit unusual? It sounds like maybe they removed the staircase to get additional room for PAY rental lockers on the first floor of the main base lodge, and the FREEBIE, open cubby wooden storage cubes in the second floor table eating area have been REMOVED.

If this staircase is the one that I think it is, then it was a very wide, large, and central staircase going from the bottom level to the second main level, and removing it will definitely change the functionality of the base lodge. Removing the main entry staircase is/was, has to be a major change to the base lodge so this is a big change.

On October 20, 2019, McDude posted a message with two photographs showing the old Waterville Valley base lodge, and the newer renovated base lodge in a general discussion thread titled "Turning something that was once nice into ..."

Say ....... hey ....... bring back all the old wood-working and lumber-jack tools of 125-years ago that used to be displayed on the walls of the second floor eating area. .....

So ....... after 55-years of use from November 1966 to November 2021 the free storage cubbies on the side wall of the second floor dining room have been removed and replaced with pay storage on the floor below, the first floor. These plywood bins got a lot of use as storage drops for shoes, extra clothes, and brown bag lunches and snacks and they were right there, close to the dining room/cafeteria tables. Must have been one of Tom Corcoran's ideas for storage from 1966 and they got a lot of good use over the years.

Me-thinks the numbers-cruncher upstairs at Team Sununu maybe saw a problem with the 2nd floor cafeteria free storage bins facilitating all those brown bag lunches and skiers enjoying their peanut butter and jam on whole wheat bread as opposed to paying for a nine-dollar cheeseburger. This was a problem-o that needed to get fixed so the staircase was removed! ...
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Usually avoid the crowd as I had a serious accident a decade ago when someone ran into me from the rear. I had my left humorus shattered into 13 pieces!
Also someone ran into me while I was waiting in the lift line resulting a coma for two days and massive migraines for years! I'm fine now.
Both happens in peak periods. So I avoid the crowds.
Due to advance snowmaking, I think you will find conditions surprisingly delightful at most ski areas. Gunstock been phenomenal in the past few years!
I ski at Gunstock weekdays and occasionally ski Cannon and WV. Usually spend a month at Bridger Bowl in Bozeman.
Haven't been to Bretton Woods in decades. Would like to spend a day there if its not busy. I hear it is crowded yet the conditions are great!
Yeah to many crazyís. My daughter got hit while we were at the lodge at Loon. Lucky not to serious. Then a friend got his face mangled by another skier. And another friend had an accident (his own fault as far as I know) he was parallelized and died a few years later. We switched to cross country on the lake and near by trails. Better exercise, warmer and much cheaper
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The Eighty-Eight Dollar, Super Senior, Cannon/Gunstock 2021-2022 lift ticket , super special deal partially (Gunstock) expires on November 30.

Cannon Mountain has a projected opening day for Friday, December 3, 2021.

New Hampshire resident skiers age-65 and older are eligible for a free lift ticket at Cannon Mt on Mondays to Fridays that can be picked up at Notchview Guest Services (NH-RSA 218:5c). Proof of residency is required and it MUST be reserved ON-LINE even though they are free. Must present ID upon arrival at Notchview Guest Services. For a $39-processing fee, seniors can get a photo i.d. pass good for the season and forgo the required on-line reservation and daily, Mon-Fri visit to Notchview Guest Services.

So, are you a real resident, or just a phony-baloney resident who's really from Methuen, Massachusetts? .....

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Gunstock Mountain has a projected opening day for Friday, December 10, 2021.

If you are age-70+ like me, November 30 is the last day to take advantage of their super low price-$49 Gunstock super steal-of-a-deal $49 Golden Winter Prime(70+) ski pass that is the #1 highest level ski pass at Gunstock .... good for every day; weekends and holidays included, google 'Gunstock Mountain winter prime pass' to check it out .... if you want to finally give Gunstock a try for the first time since 1965, or something!

So, I have not skied here since 1965 and definitely want to ride that Poma platter pull lift ..... once again ..... where is it! .... and don't tell me it got replaced by an overly luxurious chair lift about 35-years ago! .....

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Waterville Valley has no projected opening day and it says "Opening soon for snow reports".

The Waterville Valley Value Pass: good on Sunday to Friday, excludes Christmas, Saturday December 25 to New Years Day, Saturday January 1, Martin Luther King weekend-January 16-17-18, and February-Massachusetts ski vacation week, February 19-27. For Seniors, ages 65 to 79, it costs $620, SIX HUNDRED and TWENTY DOLLARS when purchased after October 12, 2021.

It is unclear to me whether or not Sunday, January 2, 2022 is included or excluded with their Waterville Valley Seniors, age 65-79, $620-Value Pass? .....
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Cannon and Gunstock are 62.3-miles apart via Route 93 with a driving time of one hour and nine minutes. If I do this before November 30 when the Gunstock offer expires, I can ski both Gunstock and Cannon all the long winter for just EIGHTY-EIGHT dollars total, as a senior, aged 70 ....... weeooooooo ....... ...... hubba-hubba ..... such a great deal coming from Belknap County-Gunstock and the State of New Hampshire-Cannon.

At 62.3-miles and eighty-eight dollars ....... it's the Gilford NH to Franconia NH downhill ski, $88-connection ....... HOO-YAH! ........ a super steal of a deal .... ....... eighty-eight dollars!

Gunstock: base elevation-867', summit elevation-2267', vertical drop-1400' with a big skier's view on nearby Lake Winnipesaukee, surface elevation-504'
'Epic Day skiing at Gunstock in Gilford NH': Monday; January 11 2021, 11:50; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H2_MHoJ2-Q
'Gunstock Ski Trail Guide-Upper Trigger into Middle Trigger and Lower Recoil; Saturday, February 16, 2019, 4:49; www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5oDM0rKMZ8

Cannon: base elevation-1850', summit elevation-4180', vertical drop-2330' with a big skier's view on nearby Mount Lafayette, summit elevation-5249'
'Cannon Mountain Ski Resort, Franconia NH 2/20/21': Saturday, 3:00; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4t6zLKTDME&t=73s
'Cannon-Kinsman Glades (Disaster Style): Saturday, February 22 2020, 7:50; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04-bsvju-HM
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Drove past Canon today Nov 21, 2021.

Mix of grass and snow on almost all slopes (viewed from 93, if I recall those are expert slopes with no snow making)
Dusting along the highway.

Here is a photo of Canon from Polly's view point.

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Just for clarification, Cannon NH resident senior pass is M-F only for $39. Gunstock senior pass is any day in the season for $49. This year the BFF pass is excluded.

With the Cannon pass, I was able to secure an Indy Pass for $129 before prices went up. The pass allows two days at any Independent ski area in the US. I'm planning on a couple of days at WV and Saddleback.

Gunstock has no plans to join the Indy pass.

BTW, Gunstock had a great year. It was obvious as it was busy mid-week. They predict it will be busier this season. Looks like I will be skiing elsewhere after all! I hate crowds!
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Just for clarification, Gunstock senior pass is any day in the season for $49. This year the BFF pass is excluded.
I have no clue as to what the BFF pass was or is?

https://www.gunstock.com/on-snow/nor...dic-trail-map/

And, Tuesday Nov 30 is the last day to buy this $49 Gunstock everything pass. Most ski areas allow you to use snow shoes on their xc-trails as long as you stay off to the side edges. What the heck, 4"-wide fat tire bicycles now get rented out by some ski areas for use on their x-c ski trails?
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Is 20-degrees, about 1/2" or less snow fell here yesterday, late afternoon, and there's headlights from two snow vehicles up there on Mt Tecumseh's Upper Bobby's and Utter Abandon trails. So, it looks like the first night for snow making at Waterville Valley is happening right now ...... think snow!

Back in 2010, the first year for Team Sununu, they actually ran the snow guns on the night of November 1 probably thinking it was totally doable until it all melted a day or two, later ...... oh well ...... today is Wednesday, November 24, I think!
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Default NOV 29 & 30 last chance $50 seniors Gunstock ski pass

Maybe it's it just my political leaning but the intimidation factor created by local Gilford-Meredith State Rep Norm Silber could maybe be the demise, next year, for this super low priced Gunstock $50 senior ski pass for age 70+ skiers which now includes myself.

Will the $50 everything, everyday ski pass still be here next year? What do you think?

Anyway, it's here right now for this winter, and today and tomorrow, Nov 29 & 30 are the last days for purchasing it for 50-bucks ...... eh ..... make that $49 .....even lower.

Google "Gunstock Mountain winter prime pass" to see what's what.
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I don't think so.
Silber is trying to promote the belief that should Gunstock be privatized that more money would be sent to Gilford and thus save Gilford taxpayers some money.
Since the property would always be owned by the County, and the County would not be willing to pay any more toward Gilford than it doe now... and the other members of the delegation have their own municipalities to answer to that are going to want that money.
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Hey there ........is Dec 4 opening day, 1st day this winter, www.waterville.com/cams, and the price for a one day lift ticket is $55., age 18-65.

Is it worth it or are you better off heading over to the nearby Livermore parking area, a one mile drive north of the ski area, and hitting the Livermore Rd for cross country skiing or walking/hiking or pedaling a mountain bike on the natural snow covered road-trail. "The area of Livermore is now an unincorporated civil township and ghost town, inhabited roughly from 1870-1930 where most of the logging was done in the winter by transient men. (Wikipedia)"

While the Livermore Rd is immediately close to the Waterville xc trail system, it is a U.S. Forest Service multi-use trail and it costs $5/car/day or a WMNF window $30-sticker/year to pahk your cahr, there, and hit that Livermore Rd-trail.

The Livermore parking lot seems to attract a whole lot of locals who know where to go plus it has a good view of the ski trails on nearby Mt Tecumseh-Waterville Valley ski area from about one mile distance, looking upward. ........http://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/ne...ore-road-trail ...... 219 photos along Livermore Rd/trail
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Monday, Dec 6, 2021 and it is raining an all-day medium heavy drizzle to at-times heavier rainfall and is 40-degrees in Waterville Valley.

Looking at the www.waterville.com/cams web cam looking at lower exhibition slope and guess what, this webcam shot is not working? Is this due to the rain which they do not really want to publicize with a shot of disappearing snow with a re-appearing green grassy slope or is it due to some other reason? .....
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