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05-24-2005, 08:27 PM | #1 |
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Lake light pollution
We made our first night trip of the season last Friday and, when we rounded marker 66 at Little Barndoor, it looked like a new hotel had opened on Clay Point. People are entitled to build their mansions on their land if they so choose. But, I don't believe that they are entitled to despoil the beauty of the night sky by illuminating their homes in order to be seen across the lake. Local planning boards need to take a more active role in minimizing light pollution. Hopefully, new residents will come to enjoy the lake for its natural beauty and respect the rights of others to enjoy it by toning down their lights.
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05-24-2005, 09:31 PM | #2 |
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I agree with Barndoor. There should be a limit on the amount of light a mansion should be allowed to emit.
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05-24-2005, 10:59 PM | #3 |
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I'm a real estate broker down here in Mass. but I'm sure this law is true in NH as well, it's a fairly basic law. The property owners own the land. They can do whatever they want to do with that land, as long as it doesn't break a local, state, or federal law (some towns call them ordinances). Unless there is an ordinance/law that prohibits the intensity of a light, which I doubt, you're out of luck. Which is a shame because they are destroying the enjoyment for you, I, and everyother patron of the lake.
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05-25-2005, 06:30 AM | #4 |
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You know these people are very image concious and want everyone to see how (fill in the blank) they are. Here is a case where education may help. Notices sent with tax bills or electric bills regularly pointing out that if everyone on the lake lit there house up at night the lake would look like a carnival. Outdoor lights should be as small as possible, pointed toward the ground not across the lake. Flood lights should only be used when needed, not for security. The funny thing is these people probably love their not light polluted view of the lake. Make them understand that bright lights on a dark lake is not a good image.
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It's not just the Night Sky, though.
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"Entitlement" does seem to be the operative word today, but it's not just the night sky that's affected. Those bright lights also confuse boat operators. If you've had radial keratotamy or LASIK surgery, or the 2% of the boating population that has nyctalopia, (or if you're just "old enough") the lights will affect your skill in night boating and docking. However, the worst night sky I've witnessed on Winnipesaukee was during last summer's night power outage. New McMansions had emergency lights that allowed me to find my way around my living room -- from ½-mile away!
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05-25-2005, 09:22 AM | #6 |
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Tell the posers to hit the lights.
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05-25-2005, 09:49 AM | #7 |
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Light pollution
I have a hard time trying to find the light bouys at night because of all the 'poluution'. I love to go out at night but lately it's been a chore!
There are places on the lake that even has a red and or green light on! This makes it very confusing! There is one mansion near the entrance to Governor's island that is very annoying at night. And it is year round!
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05-25-2005, 10:24 AM | #8 |
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I agree with the sentiment, but..
taking the Devil's advocate position: it IS private property, it ISN'T against the law, and it IS the "live free or die" state, no?
we all have legal pursuits and interests we enjoy that no doubt 'irritate' others.. so what happens when others rally to eliminate something you want and have the right to do? |
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Red & Green lights
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05-25-2005, 02:44 PM | #10 |
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My over protective mother always races for the light switch when she sees up beginning our turn toward the dock. Nothing gripes my dad more and I too get a little irritated. We try telling her that our night vision serves us way better than a few spotlights staring us down and blinding us but I guess until she does it a few times (that will never happen) she will keep doing it.
As far as the argument of private property, live free or die etc, you are exactly right. There is really no way to "prohibit" this sort of behavior. I think most of the folks on here are just expressing their wishes to keep the lake a relatively tranquil place, that doesn't glow into the sky. Those from the Philly Jersey area are well aware of the glow from Atlantic City that can be seen from Ocean City. I certainly believe that the Bahre's (I assume that is the mansion being referenced) have a right to enjoy their property. An occasional party here or there is nothing to get worked up about. But if they are constantly lighting up their property like a stadium, I can see how that could become bothersome, albeit not illegal. |
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Yes, there are ways to control light pollution
Get the proposed legislation off dead center and passed. Probably need new filings as these are old. There are places where the lighting is controlled.
http://www.mv.com/users/lopez/nhcrl/...Dec-98.v2.html http://www.mv.com/users/lopez/nhcrl/...22-MAR-99.html These are from the www.darksky.org web site. I think one of the most beautiful times is to lay out in the boat (tied to the dock) and listen to the crickets and frogs while star gazing. I remember when some relatives visited (from suburbs of Boston) and had some young children and they asked "why do you have more stars than we do" |
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