Go Back   Winnipesaukee Forum > Winnipesaukee Forums > Getting Here
Home Forums Gallery Blogs YouTube Channel Classifieds Links Calendar Register FAQDonate Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-23-2013, 07:58 AM   #1
chipj29
Senior Member
 
chipj29's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Bow
Posts: 1,858
Thanks: 493
Thanked 288 Times in 153 Posts
Default I-93 Memorial Day Weekend

Just a heads up to those who might be traveling up to the lake this weekend via I-93 and/or the Hooksett tolls.
First of all, the open-road tolling is now fully functional in Hooksett. I went through last night, and it was a breeze. Be careful as you come through from the 293-93 merge to the toll booth, as the lane configuration may not be what you are used to seeing. You need to be in the 2 left lanes for the open-road tolling. There are still EZ Pass and cash lanes on the right.

Secondly, on 93 North in Salem they have done some paving in the Exit 1 area. The lanes are marked, but are not yet fully painted as of last night. Please be very careful in that area. With all the tourists (you guys!) heading north, it might be a bit of a cluster. There are 4 lanes that go past the rest area. The farthest right lane is exit only. The 2nd lane from the right you can either exit or stay on 93. That lane ends just after you pass under the overpass. Then as you know, it is 2 lanes the rest of the way.
__________________
Getting ready for winter!
chipj29 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to chipj29 For This Useful Post:
Bernie Girl (05-23-2013)
Old 05-23-2013, 01:21 PM   #2
chipj29
Senior Member
 
chipj29's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Bow
Posts: 1,858
Thanks: 493
Thanked 288 Times in 153 Posts
Default

Also, keep your speed up when you go through the new open toll lanes. Don't stop or slow down, even if you find yourself in the wrong lane
http://www.wmur.com/news/nh-news/dri...w/-/index.html

It's not very often you here the officials telling you to go faster!
__________________
Getting ready for winter!
chipj29 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2013, 09:53 PM   #3
no-engine
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: West side Winnipesaukee, Lakes Region
Posts: 516
Thanks: 20
Thanked 52 Times in 40 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by chipj29 View Post
Also, keep your speed up when you go through the new open toll lanes. Don't stop or slow down, even if you find yourself in the wrong lane
http://www.wmur.com/news/nh-news/dri...w/-/index.html

It's not very often you here the officials telling you to go faster!
NEVER NEVER NEVER stop in any travel lane!

First time I went thru a toll at speed limit was beside a tractor trailer truck on the toll in DE headed for MD; it was kinda scary at first.
no-engine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-2013, 01:53 PM   #4
martbri7
Senior Member
 
martbri7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 157
Thanks: 25
Thanked 82 Times in 16 Posts
Default

A camera will capture your license plate number and you'll get a letter in the mail charging you for the toll, plus a $1 fee. So like the above post don't stop just go they will get there $$ plus a small processing fee
martbri7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-2013, 02:26 PM   #5
no-engine
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: West side Winnipesaukee, Lakes Region
Posts: 516
Thanks: 20
Thanked 52 Times in 40 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by martbri7 View Post
A camera will capture your license plate number and you'll get a letter in the mail charging you for the toll, plus a $1 fee. So like the above post don't stop just go they will get there $$ plus a small processing fee
Since the fee is so low, lets NOT indirectly encourage those who do not have EZ Pass to go thru at high speed. Conclusion is: move over for cash payment lane(s) or get an EZpass account!

We all should have been taught and learned in our early days of driving to never stop in any travel lane of any road, from a 20MPH country road to 65MPH divided highway.
no-engine is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 05-25-2013, 07:22 PM   #6
martbri7
Senior Member
 
martbri7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 157
Thanks: 25
Thanked 82 Times in 16 Posts
Default

It was the paper that said the quote about the fee .....NOT me
martbri7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2013, 07:56 AM   #7
chipj29
Senior Member
 
chipj29's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Bow
Posts: 1,858
Thanks: 493
Thanked 288 Times in 153 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by chipj29 View Post
Also, keep your speed up when you go through the new open toll lanes. Don't stop or slow down, even if you find yourself in the wrong lane
http://www.wmur.com/news/nh-news/dri...w/-/index.html

It's not very often you here the officials telling you to go faster!
A friend of mine witnessed a car stopped in the ORT lane in Hooksett just the other day. It didn't cause any accidents, but according to him there were some close calls.
__________________
Getting ready for winter!
chipj29 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2013, 08:21 AM   #8
Dave M
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 394
Thanks: 4
Thanked 25 Times in 23 Posts
Default Memorial weekend - no problem

Came up Saturday morning and it was a breeze. Not a whole lot of traffic. Wonder how it was on Friday night. I tend to stay in the left passing lane at the Rt93/Rt293N merge. Found if you stay in the left most lane in the ORT you will have less merge issues coming out of the ORT. Came home mid day Monday, same approch works.

Dave M
Dave M is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2013, 03:23 AM   #9
ApS
Senior Member
 
ApS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Winnipesaukee & Florida
Posts: 4,426
Thanks: 887
Thanked 424 Times in 308 Posts
Unhappy Nice for Tourism—not...

Quote:
Originally Posted by no-engine View Post
"Since the fee is so low, lets NOT indirectly encourage those who do not have EZ Pass to go thru at high speed. Conclusion is: move over for cash payment lane(s) or get an EZpass account...!"
I just had this issue with visitors from MA, who related that signage indicated a cash-payment exit to "3-A". Not seeing a cash payment lane, they turned towards the E-Z pass lanes.

In attempting to answer their inquiry—since I don't remember paying any I-93 tolls last year—I replied that they would likely get a bill in the mail, but didn't know how much their "missing" the cash payment lane (to "3-A") would cost them.

Later this morning, I found this story, with a faulty "solution":

Quote:
"Just to let you know. I hardly ever go far enough south to go through the toll booth on 93 but last month I went to pick someone up at the MHT airport at 11 oclock at night.

I wasn't sure what lane to get into because the signs only say "EZPASS any lane." None of them mention cash anymore. At least not that I'd seen.

So, I went through one expecting to toss 4 quarters in a basket but, when I got there the baskets were gone. Guy behind me started beeping his horn and yelling out the window like a madman, so I just kept going through.

Later on that night I asked the woman on the north side what was going to happen. She said I would get a 26 dollar fine in the mail.

Sure enough ! It came in the mail yesterday with a picture of my license plate and 10 days to pay.

The motto of the story is. If you don't have EZPASS, stay wayyy to the right when going through the booth. If that one isn't open, I would pull over and find out which one to go through with cash.

I don't expect to be going that far south anymore anyway. I've set a new limit for myself not to go any further south than Concord. So if anyone is flying in to come visit me...Expect to rent a car! "
This is one of those rare occasions I'd support a class-action lawsuit.
ApS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2013, 07:03 AM   #10
Winnisquamguy
Senior Member
 
Winnisquamguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Winnisquam, NH
Posts: 613
Thanks: 419
Thanked 163 Times in 115 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ApS View Post
I just had this issue with visitors from MA, who related that signage indicated a cash-payment exit to "3-A". Not seeing a cash payment lane, they turned towards the E-Z pass lanes.

In attempting to answer their inquiry—since I don't remember paying any I-93 tolls last year—I replied that they would likely get a bill in the mail, but didn't know how much their "missing" the cash payment lane (to "3-A") would cost them.

Later this morning, I found this story, with a faulty "solution":



This is one of those rare occasions I'd support a class-action lawsuit.
It's only $1.00 plus the toll so $2.00 total. Here is the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9dtAtufPUg

__________________
"I'd rather be ridin than rolling"
Winnisquamguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2013, 07:39 AM   #11
chipj29
Senior Member
 
chipj29's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Bow
Posts: 1,858
Thanks: 493
Thanked 288 Times in 153 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ApS View Post
I just had this issue with visitors from MA, who related that signage indicated a cash-payment exit to "3-A". Not seeing a cash payment lane, they turned towards the E-Z pass lanes.

In attempting to answer their inquiry—since I don't remember paying any I-93 tolls last year—I replied that they would likely get a bill in the mail, but didn't know how much their "missing" the cash payment lane (to "3-A") would cost them.

Later this morning, I found this story, with a faulty "solution":



This is one of those rare occasions I'd support a class-action lawsuit.
A class action lawsuit? For what? The signs are perfectly clear, and there are many signs in the 1-2 miles leading to the toll booth.

BTW, there hasn't been a quarter basket in use in several years.
__________________
Getting ready for winter!
chipj29 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to chipj29 For This Useful Post:
upthesaukee (06-04-2013)
Old 06-04-2013, 08:41 AM   #12
Rusty
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 2,028
Thanks: 603
Thanked 686 Times in 424 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ApS View Post
I just had this issue with visitors from MA, who related that signage indicated a cash-payment exit to "3-A". Not seeing a cash payment lane, they turned towards the E-Z pass lanes.

In attempting to answer their inquiry—since I don't remember paying any I-93 tolls last year—I replied that they would likely get a bill in the mail, but didn't know how much their "missing" the cash payment lane (to "3-A") would cost them.

Later this morning, I found this story, with a faulty "solution":



This is one of those rare occasions I'd support a class-action lawsuit.
This would be a good time for the person who wrote that story to get an E-zpass transponder.
__________________
It's never crowded along the extra mile.
Rusty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2013, 10:14 AM   #13
upthesaukee
Senior Member
 
upthesaukee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Alton Bay
Posts: 4,718
Blog Entries: 2
Thanks: 1,426
Thanked 1,440 Times in 782 Posts
Question Can't understand the confusion

There are certainly enough signs on I93 and I95 explaining the tolls.

If you have EZ Pass, you are looking for those lanes.

If you don't know what EZ Pass is, you would be looking for a lanes that say cash.

If you don't have EZ Pass by choice, you will be looking for the cash lanes.

I firmly believe it is not a lack of clarity that causes problems, it is inattention. As I said on another thread on this subject, long before open road tolling, drivers would be in the far left lane, and at the last moment have to cut across three lanes of traffic to get to the cash lanes.

Perhaps if this is all too confusing for them, they may not want to be driving at all.
__________________
I Live Here... I am always UPTHESAUKEE !!!!
upthesaukee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2013, 10:16 AM   #14
SIKSUKR
Senior Member
 
SIKSUKR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 5,066
Thanks: 215
Thanked 893 Times in 505 Posts
Default

Do people really not understand toll booths?Since I started driving almost 40 years ago,change lanes have always been on the far right.And since EZ-pass was installed at Hooksett 8+ years ago EZ-PASS only lanes have been at the far left.
__________________
SIKSUKR
SIKSUKR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2013, 10:22 AM   #15
AC2717
Senior Member
 
AC2717's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Maynard, MA & Paugus Bay
Posts: 2,113
Thanks: 574
Thanked 250 Times in 182 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SIKSUKR View Post
Do people really not understand toll booths?Since I started driving almost 40 years ago,change lanes have always been on the far right.And since EZ-pass was installed at Hooksett 8+ years ago EZ-PASS only lanes have been at the far left.
agree but for a while on RT3 south at Manchester toll, EZ pass was only on the right for a short stent
__________________
Capt. of the "No Worries"
AC2717 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2013, 11:26 AM   #16
LakeSnake
Senior Member
 
LakeSnake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Pine (Alton) Mountain
Posts: 136
Thanks: 39
Thanked 33 Times in 20 Posts
Default Not all the same

Just noting that the toll lanes are not consistent. I95 Open Roas Tolls are at left (seperate lanes) with the cash lanes on the right. Go another 5 miles on Rt 16 and there are still the "old" exact change lanes on the far left, ez pass in the middle and cash/ez pass on the right.

Not that any of that should matter if you are acually driving you car and paying attention to the road instead of the phone, newspaper, kids, texting, etc, etc.
__________________
I'm in NH 24/7 now.
LakeSnake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2013, 12:41 PM   #17
PaugusBayFireFighter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 837
Thanks: 361
Thanked 672 Times in 264 Posts
Default

Hopefully they will increase the fine back up to $25. for toll violations. I understand there will be a bit of confusion at first, but eventually there should be no excuse for using the ezpass lane without a transponder. $25. hurts a bit more than $2. Bigger fines will wake up the knuckle heads that can't read signs.
PaugusBayFireFighter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2013, 12:47 PM   #18
BroadHopper
Senior Member
 
BroadHopper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Laconia NH / Bozeman MO
Posts: 4,776
Thanks: 2,302
Thanked 840 Times in 583 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PaugusBayFireFighter View Post
Hopefully they will increase the fine back up to $25. for toll violations. I understand there will be a bit of confusion at first, but eventually there should be no excuse for using the ezpass lane without a transponder. $25. hurts a bit more than $2. Bigger fines will wake up the knuckle heads that can't read signs.
Shhhh! Don't let Gov. Maggie catch this. She's anal because the state voted down her casino. She will make up the 80 mill by raiding any funds that is not the general fund as well as hiking licenses and fees!
__________________
Someday may never be an actual day.
BroadHopper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2013, 01:18 PM   #19
Par Four
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Central MA
Posts: 77
Thanks: 23
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by upthesaukee View Post
There are certainly enough signs on I93 and I95 explaining the tolls.

If you have EZ Pass, you are looking for those lanes.

If you don't know what EZ Pass is, you would be looking for a lanes that say cash.

If you don't have EZ Pass by choice, you will be looking for the cash lanes.

I firmly believe it is not a lack of clarity that causes problems, it is inattention. As I said on another thread on this subject, long before open road tolling, drivers would be in the far left lane, and at the last moment have to cut across three lanes of traffic to get to the cash lanes.

Perhaps if this is all too confusing for them, they may not want to be driving at all.
I agree with all you've said here. I wonder if a speed sensor in the new lane could be set up to automatically light up a super bright "DON'T STOP!!" sign when it detects somebody decreasing their speed as though getting ready to stop.
Par Four is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2013, 01:41 PM   #20
Just Sold
Senior Member
 
Just Sold's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Suncook, NH, but at The Lake at Heart
Posts: 2,607
Thanks: 1,059
Thanked 430 Times in 207 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Par Four View Post
I agree with all you've said here. I wonder if a speed sensor in the new lane could be set up to automatically light up a super bright "DON'T STOP!!" sign when it detects somebody decreasing their speed as though getting ready to stop.

They are some still confused. When we came up on Sunday, 6/2, there was one car with VT plates that slowed way down (est <35 MPH) in the Open Toll Lane and the driver (looked to be in their 20's) was even looking toward the toll booths as he passed them. Later on he passed us at 70+ after we had passed the rest area.
__________________
Just Sold
At the lake the stress of daily life just melts away. Pro Re Nata
Just Sold is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2013, 05:14 AM   #21
ApS
Senior Member
 
ApS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Winnipesaukee & Florida
Posts: 4,426
Thanks: 887
Thanked 424 Times in 308 Posts
Cool Hence, the "Class-Action" Lawsuit...

Quote:
Originally Posted by chipj29 View Post
A class action lawsuit? For what? The signs are perfectly clear, and there are many signs in the 1-2 miles leading to the toll booth.
My visitor navigates Massachusetts (and Boston ) just fine; but southbound, NH's repeated signage on the east side of the river directs the unaccustomed visitor to the one I-93/Hooksett exit having a toll booth!

OTOH, poorly-marked Hooksett I-93 exit 9 takes southbound drivers to the MA line without tolls.

(As I recall, anyway... ).

In short, Government shouldn't be empowered to penalize citizens who do NOT conform to its electronic-media demands.
ApS is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to ApS For This Useful Post:
RailroadJoe (06-05-2013)
Old 06-05-2013, 06:42 AM   #22
tis
Senior Member
 
tis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 4,606
Thanks: 457
Thanked 807 Times in 558 Posts
Default

They should just have some kind of uniform pattern in every state. Like all cash goes to the right and all EZPass goes to the left.
tis is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to tis For This Useful Post:
ApS (06-05-2013)
Old 06-05-2013, 07:12 AM   #23
BroadHopper
Senior Member
 
BroadHopper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Laconia NH / Bozeman MO
Posts: 4,776
Thanks: 2,302
Thanked 840 Times in 583 Posts
Default

The state spend 22.9 million to add the EZ-PASS fast lanes. Yet the toll booths are still accident prone. The state was better off using the money to maintain the infrastructure and replace the red listed bridges.
__________________
Someday may never be an actual day.
BroadHopper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2013, 07:39 AM   #24
Winnisquamguy
Senior Member
 
Winnisquamguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Winnisquam, NH
Posts: 613
Thanks: 419
Thanked 163 Times in 115 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BroadHopper View Post
The state spend 22.9 million to add the EZ-PASS fast lanes. Yet the toll booths are still accident prone. The state was better off using the money to maintain the infrastructure and replace the red listed bridges.
I will take the Ez Pass lanes. I guess you don't get down that way much? Besides the people in Concord have a plan to fix the red listed bridges and roads.We're just still waiting to hear it.
__________________
"I'd rather be ridin than rolling"
Winnisquamguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2013, 07:45 AM   #25
chipj29
Senior Member
 
chipj29's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Bow
Posts: 1,858
Thanks: 493
Thanked 288 Times in 153 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ApS View Post
My visitor navigates Massachusetts (and Boston ) just fine; but southbound, NH's repeated signage on the east side of the river directs the unaccustomed visitor to the one I-93/Hooksett exit having a toll booth!

OTOH, poorly-marked Hooksett I-93 exit 9 takes southbound drivers to the MA line without tolls.

(As I recall, anyway... ).

In short, Government shouldn't be empowered to penalize citizens who do NOT conform to its electronic-media demands.
No it does not. Yes, there is a very clearly marked exit (exit 11, Rt 3A), and yes the cash lanes are on the right. But one would have to be more than an "unaccustomed visitor" to not know the difference. Follow the signage, it shouldn't be that hard.

And Hooksett exit 9 is poorly marked?

I really need to get some pictures to clear this mess up.
__________________
Getting ready for winter!
chipj29 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2013, 07:53 AM   #26
upthesaukee
Senior Member
 
upthesaukee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Alton Bay
Posts: 4,718
Blog Entries: 2
Thanks: 1,426
Thanked 1,440 Times in 782 Posts
Question I am still confused.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ApS View Post
My visitor navigates Massachusetts (and Boston ) just fine; but southbound, NH's repeated signage on the east side of the river directs the unaccustomed visitor to the one I-93/Hooksett exit having a toll booth!

OTOH, poorly-marked Hooksett I-93 exit 9 takes southbound drivers to the MA line without tolls.

(As I recall, anyway... ).

In short, Government shouldn't be empowered to penalize citizens who do NOT conform to its electronic-media demands.
Not sure how you visitor friend is coming up from MA, but he/she has the choice of getting off I93 North at exit 9 onto rte 28 to only have one highway to follow all the way to Wolfeboro.

If the continue north on I93, they can get off on exit 10 and with a little local knowledge ( ) can navigate over to rte 28. This exit also informs that it is the last exit before a toll.

If they miss exit 10, they still have one last chance to avoid the tolls. They can take the exit to I293 south toward Manchester and say the heck with it, and go back home.

If they are travelling south on Rte 28 they will encounter several signs directing them to I93, rte 202/4/9 in Epsom; rte 28/3 junction; College rd in Hooksett. Hopefully, the host that invited the visitor to NH has told them that if they want to avoid the tolls, take rte 28 all the way.
__________________
I Live Here... I am always UPTHESAUKEE !!!!
upthesaukee is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to upthesaukee For This Useful Post:
chipj29 (06-05-2013)
Old 06-05-2013, 08:00 AM   #27
chipj29
Senior Member
 
chipj29's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Bow
Posts: 1,858
Thanks: 493
Thanked 288 Times in 153 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ApS View Post
In short, Government shouldn't be empowered to penalize citizens who do NOT conform to its electronic-media demands.
Which electronic-media are you referring to? Are you saying that you believe the State of NH demands that people get EZ-Pass?

If that is what you are saying, then I couldn't disagree more. How is paying cash being penalized? It is the opposite, you are rewarded with a discount for having the EZ-Pass.

EZ-Pass makes things convenient for most people, so most people choose to get EZ-Pass. I have EZ-Pass, and no one forced me to get it. I chose the convenience and the discounted toll.
__________________
Getting ready for winter!
chipj29 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2013, 09:18 AM   #28
SIKSUKR
Senior Member
 
SIKSUKR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 5,066
Thanks: 215
Thanked 893 Times in 505 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ApS View Post
OTOH, poorly-marked Hooksett I-93 exit 9 takes southbound drivers to the MA line without tolls.
(As I recall, anyway... ).
Huh? If you get to Exit 9 heading southbound you already went through the tollbooth. I use that exit a lot and its marked just like any other.
__________________
SIKSUKR
SIKSUKR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2013, 10:57 AM   #29
AC2717
Senior Member
 
AC2717's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Maynard, MA & Paugus Bay
Posts: 2,113
Thanks: 574
Thanked 250 Times in 182 Posts
Default

the EZpass is great on the tolls, but at the same time you are thinking, as you driver through it at 65 and say wow, i just got a little lighter in the pocket just by driving, you don't get that toll feel so you almost feel jipped out of something, just me, but it seems that way, but I love not stopped at the same, time it feels like you are being nickel and dimed by being able to blast through
__________________
Capt. of the "No Worries"
AC2717 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2013, 06:14 AM   #30
ApS
Senior Member
 
ApS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Winnipesaukee & Florida
Posts: 4,426
Thanks: 887
Thanked 424 Times in 308 Posts
Red face Getting THERE...

Quote:
Originally Posted by chipj29 View Post
And Hooksett exit 9 is poorly marked?

I really need to get some pictures to clear this mess up.
It's really difficult to prove a negative, but an additional sign should go here:





Quote:
Originally Posted by upthesaukee View Post
"...If they miss exit 10, they still have one last chance to avoid the tolls. They can take the exit to I293 south toward Manchester and say the heck with it, and go back home. ..."
There are times when I've felt like that!

...good one...

Quote:
Originally Posted by upthesaukee View Post
"...If they are travelling south on Rte 28 they will encounter several signs directing them to I93, rte 202/4/9 in Epsom; rte 28/3 junction; College rd in Hooksett. Hopefully, the host that invited the visitor to NH has told them that if they want to avoid the tolls, take rte 28 all the way.
OK...it's straightened out. My original post should have been moved to the "Getting There" forum. The clue should have been the "Exit 3-A" reference. My visitor returned to MA via Concord, which is totally "Unexplored Territory" to this host.

However, they weren't strangers to that exit, and the signage (at dusk) happened to be confusing.

A small fine isn't so bad, but they'd heard a friend's costly horror story from last summer in Maryland, where the state stonewalled the friend's explanation, and I believe they had an E-Z Pass in place.

As for the personal intrusion of being photographed and penalized: Who'd want to have their whereabouts on-record—especially in a time-and-location manner—or am I the only one reading of "targeted-citizens" in headlines lately?

ApS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2013, 07:51 AM   #31
chipj29
Senior Member
 
chipj29's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Bow
Posts: 1,858
Thanks: 493
Thanked 288 Times in 153 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ApS View Post
It's really difficult to prove a negative, but an additional sign should go here:


Where is that located?
__________________
Getting ready for winter!
chipj29 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2013, 11:25 AM   #32
LakeSnake
Senior Member
 
LakeSnake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Pine (Alton) Mountain
Posts: 136
Thanks: 39
Thanked 33 Times in 20 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ApS View Post
As for the personal intrusion of being photographed and penalized: Who'd want to have their whereabouts on-record—especially in a time-and-location manner—or am I the only one reading of "targeted-citizens" in headlines lately?

Ever look at your e-z pass statement online? Time and place of every toll recorded. Big brother(being nice here) is watching. I oftern wondered if they would write you a ticked if the elapsed time between tolls proved your average speed was over 65? Oh - you might want to switch cell phone carriers if you have Verizon as well - it recent news is correct.
__________________
I'm in NH 24/7 now.
LakeSnake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2013, 02:28 PM   #33
PaugusBayFireFighter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 837
Thanks: 361
Thanked 672 Times in 264 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LakeSnake View Post
Ever look at your e-z pass statement online? Time and place of every toll recorded. Big brother(being nice here) is watching. I oftern wondered if they would write you a ticked if the elapsed time between tolls proved your average speed was over 65? Oh - you might want to switch cell phone carriers if you have Verizon as well - it recent news is correct.
You can't get a speeding ticket for "average speed", by law it takes an observation, or radar by a police officer to charge someone with speeding, showing how much over the speed limit the offender was driving. There would have to be a change in the law for such tickets to be issued. Law enforcement agencies would never support a law that would decrease their force size. I'm not saying the future doesn't include drones watching speeders by air, that technology is old, police planes have been snagging speeders for decades.
PaugusBayFireFighter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2013, 01:00 PM   #34
SIKSUKR
Senior Member
 
SIKSUKR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 5,066
Thanks: 215
Thanked 893 Times in 505 Posts
Default

I do know from first hand experience that you can get a speeding ticket in British Columbia without anybody present.I rented a car and recieved a speeding ticket in the mail a month later.The speed was taken from a fixed camara/radar instument mounted on an overhead sign.
__________________
SIKSUKR
SIKSUKR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2013, 09:52 PM   #35
no-engine
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: West side Winnipesaukee, Lakes Region
Posts: 516
Thanks: 20
Thanked 52 Times in 40 Posts
Default

NHDOT has design problems, and needs to observe how well EZ Pass high speed goes. IN other states, Two miles back there is good signs advising of barrier dividing the high speed lane is left, only. Cash is on right.

NH only has the dividers back half mile from toll; they diagram sign overhead does not show a barrier separation! Accidents waiting to happen!!!

Before they installed EZ Pass in NH, I emailed DOT photos I took when traveling thru tolls in DE at 65! So they then make ez pass in center lanes, not left. NOW they spend money to re-do what was done so poorly at beginning.
no-engine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2013, 11:31 AM   #36
HellRaZoR004
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Litchfield/Gilford
Posts: 825
Thanks: 231
Thanked 224 Times in 131 Posts
Default

This truck got launched into the air...
http://www.wmur.com/news/nh-news/pic...z/-/index.html
HellRaZoR004 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2013, 01:45 PM   #37
SIKSUKR
Senior Member
 
SIKSUKR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 5,066
Thanks: 215
Thanked 893 Times in 505 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HellRaZoR004 View Post
This truck got launched into the air...
http://www.wmur.com/news/nh-news/pic...z/-/index.html
You got to be kidding me.I don't know how my truck ended up vertical on the tollbooth?Really?Scary people driving out there.
__________________
SIKSUKR
SIKSUKR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2013, 03:26 PM   #38
upthesaukee
Senior Member
 
upthesaukee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Alton Bay
Posts: 4,718
Blog Entries: 2
Thanks: 1,426
Thanked 1,440 Times in 782 Posts
Default Oh I can see it...

Quote:
Originally Posted by SIKSUKR View Post
You got to be kidding me.I don't know how my truck ended up vertical on the tollbooth?Really?Scary people driving out there.
The cop says how the heck did this happen, and the driver says: I haven't a clue...I was reading and responding to a text, and the next thing I know...
__________________
I Live Here... I am always UPTHESAUKEE !!!!
upthesaukee is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:30 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions Inc.

This page was generated in 0.34578 seconds