Swim Rafts May NOT Need to be Registered

mcdude · 06-02-2005, 08:37 AM

(If it floats you can discuss it here)
Well.....Commissioner Barrett thinks it is a good idea....
CLICK HERE for Union Leader Article
Senator Gottesman says it is "ridiculous and unnecessary....."

Bear Islander · 06-02-2005, 12:47 PM

It's starting to look like Barrett has his own agenda. I don't think he will make himself popular writing his own regulations after they have been voted down by the legislature.

Paugus Bay Resident · 06-02-2005, 01:06 PM

Seems reasonable to me (esp if there is no fee involved). Similar to what is required of bob houses.

Mee-n-Mac · 06-02-2005, 02:35 PM

Seems to me that if you think permits for mooring balls are necessary then permits for swim rafts, at least on Winni, follow the same reasoning.

Islander · 06-02-2005, 03:15 PM

Mooring permits are only required on the 6 largest lakes. There are hundreds of NH lakes where you can put in a mooring without a permit. However swim raft permits are now required on ALL NH lakes.

And it is free this year because the stickers are not available yet. Do you think this will really stay free?

If they don't have the money to enforce a speed limit on one lake, how will they enforce thousands of rafts on hundreds of lakes if the permits and stickers are free?

And what budget does the extra labor, printings and mailings come from.

TANSTAAFL

Aubrey · 06-02-2005, 10:48 PM

One online news article said there may be as many as 20,000 swim rafts in New Hampshire. How many Marine Patrol officers need to be taken off safety patrols just to read and process all those applications. If they process one application every ten minutes that is 2 full time people working all year.

David Barrett says this is application and permit is necessary to get peoples names and addresses on the swim rafts in case they break free. If that's the problem why not just require the id's on the rafts. That would cost almost nothing and require no labor.

This is only about MONEY. If they charge the same as moorings next then its 20,000 x 25 = $500,000.00 half a million dollars a year for something the legislature has rejected TWICE.

06-02-2005, 08:37 AM	#1
mcdude Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rock Haven Lake - West Newfield, ME Posts: 5,361 Thanks: 374 Thanked 1,044 Times in 490 Posts	Swim Rafts May NOT Need to be Registered (If it floats you can discuss it here) Well.....Commissioner Barrett thinks it is a good idea.... CLICK HERE for Union Leader Article Senator Gottesman says it is "ridiculous and unnecessary....."

06-02-2005, 02:35 PM	#4
Mee-n-Mac Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,943 Thanks: 23 Thanked 111 Times in 51 Posts	Mooring ball rationale Seems to me that if you think permits for mooring balls are necessary then permits for swim rafts, at least on Winni, follow the same reasoning. __________________ Mee'n'Mac "Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by simple stupidity or ignorance. The latter are a lot more common than the former." - RAH

06-02-2005, 12:47 PM	#2
Bear Islander Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bear Island Posts: 1,757 Thanks: 31 Thanked 429 Times in 203 Posts	It's starting to look like Barrett has his own agenda. I don't think he will make himself popular writing his own regulations after they have been voted down by the legislature.

06-02-2005, 01:06 PM	#3
Paugus Bay Resident Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Gilmanton, NH Posts: 754 Thanks: 136 Thanked 92 Times in 51 Posts	Seems reasonable to me (esp if there is no fee involved). Similar to what is required of bob houses.

06-02-2005, 03:15 PM	#5
Islander Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 321 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 3 Posts	Mooring permits are only required on the 6 largest lakes. There are hundreds of NH lakes where you can put in a mooring without a permit. However swim raft permits are now required on ALL NH lakes. And it is free this year because the stickers are not available yet. Do you think this will really stay free? If they don't have the money to enforce a speed limit on one lake, how will they enforce thousands of rafts on hundreds of lakes if the permits and stickers are free? And what budget does the extra labor, printings and mailings come from. TANSTAAFL

06-02-2005, 10:48 PM	#6
Aubrey Junior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	One online news article said there may be as many as 20,000 swim rafts in New Hampshire. How many Marine Patrol officers need to be taken off safety patrols just to read and process all those applications. If they process one application every ten minutes that is 2 full time people working all year. David Barrett says this is application and permit is necessary to get peoples names and addresses on the swim rafts in case they break free. If that's the problem why not just require the id's on the rafts. That would cost almost nothing and require no labor. This is only about MONEY. If they charge the same as moorings next then its 20,000 x 25 = $500,000.00 half a million dollars a year for something the legislature has rejected TWICE.