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Old 05-13-2010, 10:13 PM   #1
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I decided this morning to dive and check out an object-of interest I found on side-scan a few weeks ago in Paugus that I caught on side-scan-sonar/SSS but had no time to confirm at that time; Left work and just went.

What had my interest that prompted my trip today was what appeared to be one huge log (I est. it at perhaps 45 feet) but I as I studied it beforehand I wondered-how could a log cast such a big-and triangular-sonar shadow?? Plus the white “up-rights” to the right of the image-what were those? Answer: Even after diving the object-don’t know what the white vertical images are.

I navigated to the target-of-interest/TOI and dropped anchor; Due to the wind my anchor dragged about 25 feet before catching-no problem as I had a good feel for where to head once on the bottom with my scooter to connect with it.

When I hit the bottom I landed on…the wreck of a barge, not mud as expected (this is called a “good start”); I knew when I hit it it was not what I was looking for-nice, though; I measured this barge-wreck by hand at 25 feet long-images attached; Short, square…a barge I never knew about. Maybe other folks do but not me.

So I then headed towards the primary TOI and came across a 78 foot vessel-so much for the log theory. Looked like it had been split in half down the middle with a saw, at least the stern was-just spliced in two pieces, flip-flopped left and right.

Gunwhales at the bow were about six feet off the mud. No names on the vessel that I could find anywhere but it appeared she was painted white.

A large metal pipe lay across her bow to the east-perhaps 20 feet long continuing into the mud; Don’t know what it was but it was about 4” in diameter.

Later in the day I visited a friend to do a dock inspection and while there he showed me a map (not a Bizer map) from 2003 that showed 4 wrecks in this area nearly side-by-side that I think are what I found (some of). It showed 3 un-identified barges and the wreck of the “Scamp”-according to the map the Scamp was 82’ +- so I think I have it identified as I hand-measured this wreck at 78 feet.

About 4 years ago I met with Jack Irwin to interview him about my historical research of Winni and he told me that the Scamp was 77 feet long (close enough for me as I measured it at 1-foot intervals) and located in the area I was diving. He said one Harold Whiting owned it many, many years ago and Jacks’ Dad took the Scamp as payment for a debt; How it came to be where I found it I do not know-any help here folks??

The images I now post have names I gave them-but I don’t know if the names will appear on Winni.com.

If they don’t please work with me here-These are general descriptions of what might appear as a random pictures on the web you need to interpret on your own:

- Image: Nearly square 25 foot long unknown barge with cursor on right; Bow at 45 degrees; Nice sonar shadow;

- Shot of same barge with nice sonar shadow;

- Crude shot of what I now believe to be the Scamp; Cursor on right;

- Good shot of Scamp?, cursor centered amidships;

- Crude shot of both the barge wreck and the Scamp? wreck-that’s how close they are together;

- 2nd shot of both wrecks close together

- Original shot of target that had me thinking about what it really was with cursor over the “log” part; Top of image reads “126ft/Cursor, Depth/(blank), 116/Distance, 296T/Bearing

If anyone has any information about wrecks in general in Winni I would like to hear from you.
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Old 05-14-2010, 09:23 AM   #2
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Real cool stuff Diver. Thanks for bringing your interesting images and related stories to this forum.
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Old 05-15-2010, 03:59 PM   #3
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Chris-Craft's archieves has a lot on Winni I but it's a paid membership ($35) to read the articles... Maybe someone here is a member???
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Old 05-15-2010, 06:15 PM   #4
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I just found Jack Irwins' email address and contacted him; But any help appreciated; I did a Google search of course and also found the reference to a "small" image of the Scamp in some odd book-related search result-not useful as I really couldn't see anything that looked like a boat or otherwise.

I have also contacted Warren Huse and Bruce Heald.

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Hauns, Very nice, love the side imageing!! Can you narrow it down to which side of paugus bay this is on, I will be looking for you know what!!
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I was heading south along the western shore about 800 feet past the pond set back from the RR tracks.

Coordinates of the Scamp-if that's what it is are:
43 35.263 71 28.213
Map Datum: WGS84

25 foot barge is about 40 feet south of these coordinates.
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The 78 foot +- hull I found in Paugus last year "seems" to be the 77' Scamp. Side-scan images already posted.

What little information available tends to support this. I did catch up with Jack Irwin and he gave me the photo-attached-of the Scamp his father took as payment for a debt. Jack told me that later at some point a man named Rice took possession of it and after sitting in the Weirs Channel for a few years ultimately scuttled it in the area Jack said it should be-which is where I found this wreck.
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