Boating Education Certificate

VitaBene · 08-02-2010, 08:05 AM

With the fantastic weather we have been having in the Lakes Region this summer, it seems like there are a number of boaters that could not possibly have ever heard of some of the "rules of the road" for the lake (for evidence, please read the Shout out to Life is Good thread).

As many are aware, NH has made it mandatory that all boat operators take and pass a Boating Education class.

There are classes upcoming that are local to Winni:
8-21-2010 in Moultonborough (at the Public Safety Building on 25)
9-18-2010 in Ossipee at the Town Hall.

There may be others as well, please see the link to the NH DOS sitehttp://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/s...ged/index.html

While there are some that will say that the course is not extensive as it should be, at least everyone who takes it will be aware of the major rules that will effect them on the lake.

NoBozo · 08-02-2010, 10:14 AM

Since there seems to be so many people out on the lake who seem to Not KNOW the "Rules Of The Road"......I wonder how many of them actually KNOW that they were supposed to take a course and get a certificate. If they actually Don't know ..this might explain why so many "boaters" do whatever they want Willy Nilly.

I'd like to think that they are Ignorant, rather than Arrogant individuals who DO know the rules but choose to not follow them.

I have never seen a Sign on the town dock..say in Wolfeboro, stating that Everyone MUST have "The Certificate" to operate. What would it cost to put up such Reminder Signs on every Town Dock on the lake..? How many Town Docks are there..?

I wonder how many "boaters" on the lake are from out of state and have no clue about getting "The Certificate" to operate in NH.

NB

LIforrelaxin · 08-02-2010, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by NoBozo

Since there seems to be so many people out on the lake who seem to Not KNOW the "Rules Of The Road"......I wonder how many of them actually KNOW that they were supposed to take a course and get a certificate. If they actually Don't know ..this might explain why so many "boaters" do whatever they want Willy Nilly.

I'd like to think that they are Ignorant, rather than Arrogant individuals who DO know the rules but choose to not follow them.

I have never seen a Sign on the town dock..say in Wolfeboro, stating that Everyone MUST have "The Certificate" to operate. What would it cost to put up such Reminder Signs on every Town Dock on the lake..? How many Town Docks are there..?

I wonder how many "boaters" on the lake are from out of state and have no clue about getting "The Certificate" to operate in NH.

NB

So the idea of putting signs at the town docks is good... but the only helps on lakes where there are town docks, for all other lakes and waterways it would need to be at all ramps... The cost well, it could be high give the amount of boat ramps in the state...

VitaBene · 08-02-2010, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by LIforrelaxin

So the idea of putting signs at the town docks is good... but the only helps on lakes where there are town docks, for all other lakes and waterways it would need to be at all ramps... The cost well, it could be high give the amount of boat ramps in the state...

Maybe the DOS can send a little reminder with class dates with the registration renewals? As NB noted, some of the infractions are so blatant that I cannot believe that the offending captain has a clue.

welchislandman · 08-02-2010, 11:02 AM

has anyone taken the test out option ?

http://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/s...d/testout.html

RailroadJoe · 08-02-2010, 11:22 AM

NoBozo hit it probably on the head. I don't boat and I was unaware that to operate a boat over 25 hp you had to have a certificate.
Lots of people just buy or rent and put it in the water and go from there.
Watch out for them as they become more and more.

jeffatsquam · 08-02-2010, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by welchislandman

has anyone taken the test out option ?

http://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/s...d/testout.html

Yes.......

White Rook · 08-02-2010, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffatsquam

Yes.......

I'm not clear on this option. How does work? Do you still have to attend a class? A test is sent for study and responses, etc ?

jeffatsquam · 08-02-2010, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by White Rook

I'm not clear on this option. How does work? Do you still have to attend a class? A test is sent for study and responses, etc ?

As the link says you must pre register.

Then show up at a class site late in the afternoon and take the proctored exam.
Also as the link says you must score 80 or better.

VitaBene · 08-03-2010, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by VtSteve

So what's different between the Test Out option and the other choice? Price? Good only in NH? Why?

As I understand it Testing out allows you to forgo the class and then show up at the end and take the proctored exam.

LakeSnake · 08-03-2010, 06:27 AM

You can also forgo the class room by studing online and taking the practice test online - which you must pass-then you can sign up to take the proctored exam. I think it was about $30.00 for the home study and $10 for the proctored exam if memory serves me - which it probably doesn't.

archstanton · 08-03-2010, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by NoBozo

Since there seems to be so many people out on the lake who seem to Not KNOW the "Rules Of The Road"......I wonder how many of them actually KNOW that they were supposed to take a course and get a certificate. If they actually Don't know ..this might explain why so many "boaters" do whatever they want Willy Nilly. NB

Some sign's may help but I never understood why you could register a boat in NH without showing the safe boat cert. Wouldn't that help close the "gap"? Also I thought that you could put your boat in for a short period of time without registering it - for vacationers, etc. This may be another gap. Why not reqire a temporary registration that would include the requirement for a temporary safe boat cert?

VitaBene · 08-03-2010, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by archstanton

Some sign's may help but I never understood why you could register a boat in NH without showing the safe boat cert. Wouldn't that help close the "gap"? Also I thought that you could put your boat in for a short period of time without registering it - for vacationers, etc. This may be another gap. Why not reqire a temporary registration that would include the requirement for a temporary safe boat cert?

Sounds good to me, but note that it is the operator that needs the cert, not necessarily the owner so it won't catch all. Having said that, I am all for as many checks for the certificates as possible. I would even advocate for certificate check "roadblocks"

The Watcher · 08-03-2010, 11:41 AM

Testing out provides a certificate good in NH ONLY. The classroom earned certificate is good throughout the USA.

boat_guy64 · 08-03-2010, 01:41 PM

Last week, my 15 yr. old took the course and the test in Meredith. It was in two 3 hour sessions. He said the instructor was very good, he learned a lot and he is really glad he took the course. He is all ready for next year when he'll be 16.

Bottome line, six hours to learn some really important safety information.

Skip · 08-03-2010, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by boat_guy64

Last week, my 15 yr. old took the course and the test in Meredith. It was in two 3 hour sessions. He said the instructor was very good, he learned a lot and he is really glad he took the course. He is all ready for next year when he'll be 16.

Bottome line, six hours to learn some really important safety information.

Good to hear that.

It is the same with the Snowmobile Safety classes that I teach each winter. The difference being that many of my actual students (the kids) are really up to speed on many of the laws and regulations and especially the environmental issues regarding snowmobiling.

But it is alway the adult parent or guardians that come up to me after class and state they were absolutely ignorant to many of the issues presented in the class!

Personally I would like to see a tiered licensing approach introduced to ATV and snowmobile operation in the State. As bad as lack of knowledge can be out on the water, the incidents of serious accidents due in many cases sheer ignorance or stupidity is much higher per capita withing the ATV/Snowmobile community!

In my humble opinion, that is...

boat_guy64 · 08-03-2010, 05:09 PM

I took the snowmobile course with my son three years ago. The one thing that the gentleman did very well besides teach us the laws was stress the respect for the landowners and the other sledders. It made a big impression on my son and on me. We're guests out on those trails and we can't ever forget that. I know that there are always bad examples, but the people that I ride with on sleds are very very responsible and respectful.

If all boaters would think the same way, many of the issues we see on the big lake would be non-existant. We are all on a very big public lake and we all need to share it.

John A. Birdsall · 08-03-2010, 07:21 PM

As I see it, before you put up signs, you need to teach them how to read.

08-02-2010, 08:05 AM	#1
VitaBene Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 3,532 Thanks: 1,574 Thanked 1,608 Times in 823 Posts	Boating Education Certificate With the fantastic weather we have been having in the Lakes Region this summer, it seems like there are a number of boaters that could not possibly have ever heard of some of the "rules of the road" for the lake (for evidence, please read the Shout out to Life is Good thread). As many are aware, NH has made it mandatory that all boat operators take and pass a Boating Education class. There are classes upcoming that are local to Winni: 8-21-2010 in Moultonborough (at the Public Safety Building on 25) 9-18-2010 in Ossipee at the Town Hall. There may be others as well, please see the link to the NH DOS sitehttp://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/s...ged/index.html While there are some that will say that the course is not extensive as it should be, at least everyone who takes it will be aware of the major rules that will effect them on the lake.

08-02-2010, 11:02 AM	#5
welchislandman Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Welch Is, Gilford Posts: 79 Thanks: 91 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	test out option has anyone taken the test out option ? http://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/s...d/testout.html

08-03-2010, 01:41 PM	#15
boat_guy64 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Windham and Meredith Posts: 225 Blog Entries: 5 Thanks: 33 Thanked 89 Times in 42 Posts	The class Last week, my 15 yr. old took the course and the test in Meredith. It was in two 3 hour sessions. He said the instructor was very good, he learned a lot and he is really glad he took the course. He is all ready for next year when he'll be 16. Bottome line, six hours to learn some really important safety information.

08-03-2010, 05:09 PM	#17
boat_guy64 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Windham and Meredith Posts: 225 Blog Entries: 5 Thanks: 33 Thanked 89 Times in 42 Posts	I agree I took the snowmobile course with my son three years ago. The one thing that the gentleman did very well besides teach us the laws was stress the respect for the landowners and the other sledders. It made a big impression on my son and on me. We're guests out on those trails and we can't ever forget that. I know that there are always bad examples, but the people that I ride with on sleds are very very responsible and respectful. If all boaters would think the same way, many of the issues we see on the big lake would be non-existant. We are all on a very big public lake and we all need to share it.

08-03-2010, 07:21 PM	#18
John A. Birdsall Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Norwich, CT Posts: 599 Thanks: 27 Thanked 51 Times in 35 Posts	signs As I see it, before you put up signs, you need to teach them how to read.

08-02-2010, 10:14 AM	#2
NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	Since there seems to be so many people out on the lake who seem to Not KNOW the "Rules Of The Road"......I wonder how many of them actually KNOW that they were supposed to take a course and get a certificate. If they actually Don't know ..this might explain why so many "boaters" do whatever they want Willy Nilly. I'd like to think that they are Ignorant, rather than Arrogant individuals who DO know the rules but choose to not follow them. I have never seen a Sign on the town dock..say in Wolfeboro, stating that Everyone MUST have "The Certificate" to operate. What would it cost to put up such Reminder Signs on every Town Dock on the lake..? How many Town Docks are there..? I wonder how many "boaters" on the lake are from out of state and have no clue about getting "The Certificate" to operate in NH. NB

08-02-2010, 11:22 AM	#6
RailroadJoe Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 620 Thanks: 259 Thanked 158 Times in 100 Posts	NoBozo hit it probably on the head. I don't boat and I was unaware that to operate a boat over 25 hp you had to have a certificate. Lots of people just buy or rent and put it in the water and go from there. Watch out for them as they become more and more.

08-03-2010, 06:27 AM	#11
LakeSnake Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Pine (Alton) Mountain Posts: 138 Thanks: 39 Thanked 33 Times in 20 Posts	You can also forgo the class room by studing online and taking the practice test online - which you must pass-then you can sign up to take the proctored exam. I think it was about $30.00 for the home study and $10 for the proctored exam if memory serves me - which it probably doesn't.

08-03-2010, 11:41 AM	#14
The Watcher Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Testing out provides a certificate good in NH ONLY. The classroom earned certificate is good throughout the USA.

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