Sea-Doo GTI vs. GTX

[thinkxingu]

Anyone have experience with late models of these two machines? Thoughts on which would be a better fit for Winni?

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[Biggd]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

Anyone have experience with late models of these two machines? Thoughts on which would be a better fit for Winni?

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I think we beat this dead horse a while ago on your other thread.

[thinkxingu]

The total number of posts in those two threads that deal with the GTI vs. GTX is...1, and it's literally one line with nothing about Winni use.

It's cool if y'all don't have anything to add, but how'sabout just leaving it be?

There have been a couple posts in the last few months that have mentioned not wanting to be part of this forum any longer because of what threads devolve into.

Add those to the number of private messages I get from people who don't want to deal with posts/people like above, and it's clear many members are tired of it.

Please, just answer the question--be part of the solution--or go/stay away.

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[Hillcountry]

This thread talks about what you are asking: (although you’ve probably seen it)

http://greenhulk.net/forums/showthread.php?t=62630

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by Hillcountry

This thread talks about what you are asking: (although you’ve probably seen it)

http://greenhulk.net/forums/showthread.php?t=62630

Thanks, Hill--I hadn't seen that. The main reason I'm asking is because the new GTI hull is supposed to be closer to the redesigned GTX (2018) hull but I don't yet fully understand what the hull brings to the table in terms of drivability, usage, etc.

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[Hillcountry]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

Thanks, Hill--I hadn't seen that. The main reason I'm asking is because the new GTI hull is supposed to be closer to the redesigned GTX (2018) hull but I don't yet fully understand what the hull brings to the table in terms of drivability, usage, etc.

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I hear ya. You should go with whatever hull provides better-stability and wave cutting than something to do donuts with!

[Biggd]

Everyone has different opinions on different skis. At some point you have to scrap all the research and take the plunge, pun intended!

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by Hillcountry

I hear ya. You should go with whatever hull provides better-stability and wave cutting than something to do donuts with!

Someone posted somewhere that stability = the craft not listing, turtling, etc., which is clearly the GTX, but that "wave cutting" and tracking are different, and that the GTI is better.

Those would seem to be connected, but maybe not?

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[Hillcountry]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

Someone posted somewhere that stability = the craft not listing, turtling, etc., which is clearly the GTX, but that "wave cutting" and tracking are different, and that the GTI is better.

Those would seem to be connected, but maybe not?

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Go with the “workhorse” not the “playhorse”
I would go for stability...crashing through chop will be bad on any PWC

[ishoot308]

Think;

I think this says it best... "If you want a cruiser then go for the GTX hull. If you want something you can throw around a bit more and better performance then go the GTI."


Dan

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by ishoot308

Think;

I think this says it best... "If you want a cruiser then go for the GTX hull. If you want something you can throw around a bit more and better performance then go the GTI."


Dan

I have both and that pretty much sums it up.

[TiltonBB]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

The total number of posts in those two threads that deal with the GTI vs. GTX is...1, and it's literally one line with nothing about Winni use.

It's cool if y'all don't have anything to add, but how'sabout just leaving it be?

There have been a couple posts in the last few months that have mentioned not wanting to be part of this forum any longer because of what threads devolve into.

Add those to the number of private messages I get from people who don't want to deal with posts/people like above, and it's clear many members are tired of it.

Please, just answer the question--be part of the solution--or go/stay away.

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I think what people may be tired of is that it seems like you have made about 10,000 posts over the past year about buying one jet ski. I know that is an exaggeration but it seems like that many. Perhaps a little excessive.

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

I think what people may be tired of is that it seems like you have made about 10,000 posts over the past year about buying one jet ski. I know that is an exaggeration but it seems like that many. Perhaps a little excessive.

Yeah, maybe you're right--being in the north, and more than likely not heading out on super busy weekends (for those, we'll take Boatie Two), we would probably be ok with either. Being new to the game, though, I'm not all that familiar with stability vs. tracking vs. "playfulness," etc. especially with passengers, and it appears there may be a significant difference between the hulls in those regards.

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[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by Top-Water

Just for the hell of it Googled thinkxingu, join date Nov, 2029


http://greenhulk.net/forums/showthread.php?t=283676

Like someone else once said, you need to get a life. Like, for real, how sad is your life that your researching mine?

That being said, that thread was a good one but didn't address the hull difference because, at the time, there wasn't (and still isn't) much discussion about how close the new GTI's is to the GTX.

Thanks for creeping, though!

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[Poor Richard]

Originally Posted by Top-Water

Just for the hell of it Googled thinkxingu, join date Nov, 2029

I wonder if he ever ended up buying that SeaDoo 9 years from now.



I'll be honest...that's officially a lot of threads.

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by Poor Richard

I wonder if he ever ended up buying that SeaDoo 9 years from now.



I'll be honest...that's officially a lot of threads.

If you keep searching, you'll find even more!

No apologies--I've learned a ton about what I'm getting into, while having fun doing it. A great way to pass the time in the off-season!

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[Poor Richard]

It's all good man. I'm just having a little fun.

While I think it's crazy if there are 5 or more threads out there about this, I do hope you are completely satisfied with whichever ride you decide to go with...even if it is by the year 2029

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by Poor Richard

It's all good man. I'm just having a little fun.

While I think it's crazy if there are 5 or more threads out there about this, I do hope you are completely satisfied with whichever ride you decide to go with...even if it is by the year 2029

I get your tone, no worries. Just note that the threads are all different: accessories for Christmas (which had great suggestions I would've never thought about) vs. hull design vs. brand reliability, etc.

I don't see that as crazy at all, especially for someone just getting into an activity, but for some reason a few of the members here do.

In fact, I'm confident that if I'd had one thread titled, "New Jetski Advice on Reliability, Hull Design, Features, and Christmas Gift Ideas," the first response would've been something about asking too much in one thread. It's always the same people.

Cheers!

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[Cal Coon]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

If you keep searching, you'll find even more!

No apologies--I've learned a ton about what I'm getting into, while having fun doing it. A great way to pass the time in the off-season!

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Maybe you can drive all the snowmobiler's crazy on their forums trying to decide what sled to buy for something else to do in the "off season," instead of beating this dead horse!!! 2 stroke, 4 stroke, liquid cooled, air cooled, heated seat, non heated seat, etc, etc, etc, lots of choices... you could probably tie up those threads for years!!

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by Cal Coon

Maybe you can drive all the snowmobiler's crazy on their forums trying to decide what sled to buy for something else to do in the "off season," instead of beating this dead horse!!! 2 stroke, 4 stroke, liquid cooled, air cooled, heated seat, non heated seat, etc, etc, etc, lots of choices... you could probably tie up those threads for years!!

The thing is, you're driving yourself crazy. Most everyone else just scrolls on past or actually provides things to think about.

I'll be looking for advice on jetski anchors, maintenance, storage, and food suggestions for long outings soon--I look forward to your panties getting bunched up on those threads!

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[thinkxingu]

In two months, my decision will be final!

Seriously, though, the new GTI hull--supposedly much closer to the ST3, is what is throwing this off, and there are so few reviews of it vs. the GTX.

I'm looking forward to getting on them at the Boston Boat Show and ordering at Bedford!

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[Poor Richard]

You might want to put up a thread asking which one you should sit on first.

[tbonies]

Originally Posted by Poor Richard

You might want to put up a thread asking which one you should sit on first.

I would think if you are going to sit on both of them at a both show, I would sit on the GTI first. I'm a big believer of going in alphabet order so would do GTI, and then GTX.

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by tbonies

I would think if you are going to sit on both of them at a both show, I would sit on the GTI first. I'm a big believer of going in alphabet order so would do GTI, and then GTX.

I always associated an X with crossing something off a list so I would go with the I, as in "I want this one".

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by Poor Richard

You might want to put up a thread asking which one you should sit on first.

Hahaha! I appreciate this.

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[Biggd]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

Hahaha! I appreciate this.

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Just take the joking in stride. I don't think anyone is purposely being mean, just annoying.

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by Biggd

Just take the joking in stride. I don't think anyone is purposely being mean, just annoying.

No, for real--I love subtle humor. I'll take that over criticism any day and twice on Sundays. Just make sure to avoid cliches at all costs.

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[strum]

You are looking for late model or a new one.

I have a 2002 GTX. Could answer some questions if needed...

[LIforrelaxin]

Here is the thing, you can spend your time deliberating the decision try to find the best fit.... Or you can just make a secession and not look back. I have been a number of ski's over the years..... your buying factors should be the following:

1. What are you comfortable with for initial cost
2. what are you comfortable with for up keep yearly costs
3. Are you more of a touring person, or a thrills person.....

1. tells you what models you can look at
2. tells you if you want to consider something super charged
3. Is the GTX vs. GTI question..... GTX is a touring pacakge.... GTI is the no frills get on with business package...... When you get into the supercharged models you get the best of both worlds.....

[DesertDweller]

As others have indicated, you have researched your purchase more than sufficiently. My advice to you is to get on each one of them and give them a test drive/sea trial and see which one you like best. At the end of the day the only opinion that matters is your own and other members of your family.

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by DesertDweller

As others have indicated, you have researched your purchase more than sufficiently. My advice to you is to get on each one of them and give them a test drive/sea trial and see which one you like best. At the end of the day the only opinion that matters is your own and other members of your family.

And therein lies the rub--I'm planning on ordering this with the best info I have, so it's ready for the season.

The reality is that I'll like whatever I buy--I'm mostly looking to justify saving or spending money.

But what's a forum for other than to share thoughts with people who have a common interest?!

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[Cal Coon]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

And therein lies the rub--I'm planning on ordering this with the best info I have, so it's ready for the season.

The reality is that I'll like whatever I buy--I'm mostly looking to justify saving or spending money.

But what's a forum for other than to share thoughts with people who have a common interest?!

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Usually, it's much more interesting to share "different" thoughts, not the same one over and over...
This horse is dead. Is that a cliche?

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by Cal Coon

Usually, it's much more interesting to share "different" thoughts, not the same one over and over...
This horse is dead. Is that a cliche?

So which would you buy, and why?!

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[Cal Coon]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

So which would you buy, and why?!

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To me it's a no brainer. GTX. Buy the one that handles the chop best. Winni gets rough. Simple as that. I also think it would be easier to sell, or trade, when and if the time comes.

[Cal Coon]

I think a good question to ask would be to Biggd since he has both. The question is which ONE would you keep if you could only have one or the other, and why? I would be interested in hearing his response to this question if I was on the fence between the two. I really don't know that much about them, but I do know that I would buy which ever one handles the rough water better since I do all of my boating on wkends, but that's just me.

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by Cal Coon

I think a good question to ask would be to Biggd since he has both. The question is which ONE would you keep if you could only have one or the other, and why? I would be interested in hearing his response to this question if I was on the fence between the two. I really don't know that much about them, but I do know that I would buy which ever one handles the rough water better since I do all of my boating on wkends, but that's just me.

What I'm finding is that everybody seems to love their GTXs unequivocally whereas GTI people often mention value or "fun, but can beat me up in chop." The lake is much calmer where we are in the north--even on weekends--but given that I'm not a speed or tricks freak, I think I'm leaning more towards the GTX.

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[Biggd]

Originally Posted by Cal Coon

I think a good question to ask would be to Biggd since he has both. The question is which ONE would you keep if you could only have one or the other, and why? I would be interested in hearing his response to this question if I was on the fence between the two. I really don't know that much about them, but I do know that I would buy which ever one handles the rough water better since I do all of my boating on wkends, but that's just me.

I prefer the GTI. It's a little easier for me to toss around. The GTX has more features and is faster but much heavier. It all depends what kind of riding you want to do

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by Biggd

I prefer the GTI. It's a little easier for me to toss around. The GTX has more features and is faster but much heavier. It all depends what kind of riding you want to do

Do you ever bring the skis out in chop? If so, how much of a difference is there and, if the new GTI hull bridged the gap a bit, would that be a good balance?

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[Biggd]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

Do you ever bring the skis out in chop? If so, how much of a difference is there and, if the new GTI hull bridged the gap a bit, would that be a good balance?

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I'm on Lake Waukewan so the chop isn't as bad as Winni but, I think, the GTX handles the rougher water better because it's heavier.
If I was going out all day on Winni I would rather have the GTX but on my lake, where you can ride the whole lake in 15 minutes, I prefer the GTI. My GTI is a 130 and my GTX is a 260 so it's twice the HP and much heavier. The GTI is plenty fast enough, 50 to 60MPH depending on the chop. The GTX is a rocket, over 70MPH and you can't go that fast on Winni.
When I was looking for a second machine I was honestly looking for another GTI but this GTX was too good a deal to pass up. It's a 2013 and it only had 23 hours on it.
My GTI is older, 2009, so I'm sure the newer ones are better. But my 2009 is like an older Toyota Camry, it just goes and goes and never lets me down.