Jet Skiier Rescued near Sandy Point

fatlazyless · 12-02-2023, 08:19 AM

Nov 30, Thursday morning, somewhere in Alton NH, Rt-11, on Lake Winnipesaukee, a jet-skier without a pfd comes close to drowning the cold water after his jet-ski sinks. A nearby NH-DoT crew hears his screams and paddles out to his rescue in a borrowed kayak and canoe that was stored on shore, somewhere.

http://www.wmur.com/article/alton-ne...scued/46014220 ...... NH-DoT saves a drowning in Alton, NH ...... no pfd is not too smart

I think that people tend to hit the panic button when first hitting the cold water which makes their drowning situation, much worse. Just cover your mouth, don't inhale any water, don't panic in the icy cold water. The first two minutes are the worst. If you survive the first two minutes, you can swim to safety for another 15-minutes even in 34-degree water.

mcdude · 12-02-2023, 08:40 AM

Jet Skiier rescued
https://www.wmur.com/article/alton-n...scued/46014220

Biggd · 12-02-2023, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by mcdude

Jet Skiier rescued
https://www.wmur.com/article/alton-n...scued/46014220

Send him a bill for saving him from himself, you can't fix stupid!

thinkxingu · 12-02-2023, 09:00 AM

"...the man who was allegedly not wearing a life vest."

There really aren't many dumber decisions than this.

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John Mercier · 12-02-2023, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Biggd

Send him a bill for saving him from himself, you can't fix stupid!

Registration for the boat would be considered the same as carrying a HikeSafe card... they generally will not bill. They would generally right a ticket for violations.

Biggd · 12-02-2023, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by John Mercier

Registration for the boat would be considered the same as carrying a HikeSafe card... they generally will not bill. They would generally right a ticket for violations.

States have charged hikers in the past for recovery services, not sure about NH. If you're snowmobile goes through the ice in winter you are charged for recovery. I don't think a registration will free you from a fee.

John Mercier · 12-02-2023, 02:48 PM

NH has a HikeSafe card. With it the chance of being charged goes way down - pretty much to zero - because you are contributing to the F&G SAR Fund.

Snowmobile through the ice is a private recovery... and not considered in the same manner. It would be like the jet ski sinking - private recovery would be the outcome.

He is lucky that it was DOT, had they called the local Fire Department, his insurance would get a bill.

Descant · 12-02-2023, 03:51 PM

I've always thought that if I ran my sled on the ice, I'd get one of FLL's noodles and 200' of parachute cord and attach it to the sled for automatic release. That should make recovery easy and avoid the cost of hiring a diver to find and retrieve my sled. Never really thought about it, but in the summer, I wear a self-inflating Type 5 PFD. That would easily fit over most any snowmobile suit or other garb.

fatlazyless · 12-02-2023, 04:43 PM

Surprise, surprise, you will be surprised to learn this about inflatable PFD's and jet-skis.

Doesn't the Coast Guard say something like "Inflatable PFDs are approved only for people 16 and older, and they are not to be worn on personal watercraft (PWC) or while water-skiing."

So an inflatable PFD is not approved by the Coast Guard for jet-skis and waterskiers and people under age-16 on any boat in the United States of America. Their Coast Guard reasoning is because an inflatable pfd is much more likely to get discombobled or ripped off when falling off a jet-ski or a waterski than is a standard foam pfd.

John Mercier · 12-02-2023, 04:47 PM

It isn't hard to find something through the ice... or even to float it.
The hard part is the actual retrieval.

The ice around the hole is many times unstable, and the breakthrough makes it so much more unstable.

KPW · 12-02-2023, 07:43 PM

It looks like the locals, with the kayak and canoe, were the one's that saved him. Kudos to the DOT for making sure the ambulance was there.

John Mercier · 12-02-2023, 08:02 PM

So he is still getting an ambulance bill.
Sort of a costly day out.

Sue Doe-Nym · 12-02-2023, 10:17 PM

Anyone pulling such a knuckle headed trick should be overwhelmed with gratitude for having been rescued and being alive….and should probably not complain about receiving ambulance bills or any other bills pertaining to that incident!
After thanking his rescuers, he should probably buy a fat lottery ticket! He is one lucky dude.

thinkxingu · 12-03-2023, 01:23 AM

Video here: https://youtu.be/hwn5PUNIaGA?feature=shared

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8gv · 12-03-2023, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by John Mercier

It isn't hard to find something through the ice... or even to float it.
The hard part is the actual retrieval.

The ice around the hole is many times unstable, and the breakthrough makes it so much more unstable.

Ice holes?

https://youtu.be/mEfpwAL9VQw

12-02-2023, 08:19 AM	#1
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,526 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 295 Thanked 957 Times in 698 Posts	NH-DoT rescues drowning jet-skier, Alton-Lake Winnipesaukee Nov 30, Thursday morning, somewhere in Alton NH, Rt-11, on Lake Winnipesaukee, a jet-skier without a pfd comes close to drowning the cold water after his jet-ski sinks. A nearby NH-DoT crew hears his screams and paddles out to his rescue in a borrowed kayak and canoe that was stored on shore, somewhere. http://www.wmur.com/article/alton-ne...scued/46014220 ...... NH-DoT saves a drowning in Alton, NH ...... no pfd is not too smart I think that people tend to hit the panic button when first hitting the cold water which makes their drowning situation, much worse. Just cover your mouth, don't inhale any water, don't panic in the icy cold water. The first two minutes are the worst. If you survive the first two minutes, you can swim to safety for another 15-minutes even in 34-degree water. __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake!

12-02-2023, 08:40 AM	#2
mcdude Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rock Haven Lake - West Newfield, ME Posts: 5,361 Thanks: 374 Thanked 1,044 Times in 490 Posts	Jet Skiier Rescued near Sandy Point Jet Skiier rescued https://www.wmur.com/article/alton-n...scued/46014220 __________________

12-02-2023, 04:43 PM	#9
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,526 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 295 Thanked 957 Times in 698 Posts	Surprise, surprise, you will be surprised to learn this about inflatable PFD's and jet-skis. Doesn't the Coast Guard say something like "Inflatable PFDs are approved only for people 16 and older, and they are not to be worn on personal watercraft (PWC) or while water-skiing." So an inflatable PFD is not approved by the Coast Guard for jet-skis and waterskiers and people under age-16 on any boat in the United States of America. Their Coast Guard reasoning is because an inflatable pfd is much more likely to get discombobled or ripped off when falling off a jet-ski or a waterski than is a standard foam pfd. __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake!

12-02-2023, 07:43 PM	#11
KPW Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 378 Thanks: 710 Thanked 116 Times in 58 Posts	Locals It looks like the locals, with the kayak and canoe, were the one's that saved him. Kudos to the DOT for making sure the ambulance was there.

12-02-2023, 10:17 PM	#13
Sue Doe-Nym Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,372 Thanks: 710 Thanked 758 Times in 393 Posts	One lucky dude…. Anyone pulling such a knuckle headed trick should be overwhelmed with gratitude for having been rescued and being alive….and should probably not complain about receiving ambulance bills or any other bills pertaining to that incident! After thanking his rescuers, he should probably buy a fat lottery ticket! He is one lucky dude.

12-02-2023, 09:00 AM	#4
thinkxingu Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 5,946 Thanks: 1,154 Thanked 1,962 Times in 1,212 Posts	"...the man who was allegedly not wearing a life vest." There really aren't many dumber decisions than this. Sent from my SM-S911U using Tapatalk

12-02-2023, 02:48 PM	#7
John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 2,978 Thanks: 2 Thanked 529 Times in 435 Posts	NH has a HikeSafe card. With it the chance of being charged goes way down - pretty much to zero - because you are contributing to the F&G SAR Fund. Snowmobile through the ice is a private recovery... and not considered in the same manner. It would be like the jet ski sinking - private recovery would be the outcome. He is lucky that it was DOT, had they called the local Fire Department, his insurance would get a bill.

12-02-2023, 03:51 PM	#8
Descant Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Merrimack and Welch Island Posts: 4,033 Thanks: 1,211 Thanked 1,511 Times in 983 Posts	I've always thought that if I ran my sled on the ice, I'd get one of FLL's noodles and 200' of parachute cord and attach it to the sled for automatic release. That should make recovery easy and avoid the cost of hiring a diver to find and retrieve my sled. Never really thought about it, but in the summer, I wear a self-inflating Type 5 PFD. That would easily fit over most any snowmobile suit or other garb.

12-02-2023, 04:47 PM	#10
John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 2,978 Thanks: 2 Thanked 529 Times in 435 Posts	It isn't hard to find something through the ice... or even to float it. The hard part is the actual retrieval. The ice around the hole is many times unstable, and the breakthrough makes it so much more unstable.

12-02-2023, 08:02 PM	#12
John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 2,978 Thanks: 2 Thanked 529 Times in 435 Posts	So he is still getting an ambulance bill. Sort of a costly day out.

12-03-2023, 01:23 AM	#14
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