Derby trash

HUH · 02-12-2009, 05:55 PM

Sounds like everyone had a great time at the derby.. By the looks of all the trash ive picked up on the ice, it was a great weekend. I know the five guys who endlessly did donuts on four wheelers and urinated behind the bushes in my yard seemed to be having a grand ol time. I know I know .. great for the economy but personally I could do without them.

VitaBene · 02-14-2009, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by HUH

Sounds like everyone had a great time at the derby.. By the looks of all the trash ive picked up on the ice, it was a great weekend. I know the five guys who endlessly did donuts on four wheelers and urinated behind the bushes in my yard seemed to be having a grand ol time. I know I know .. great for the economy but personally I could do without them.

There is no excuse for that at all- leave no trace is the motto I try to live by.

Arubaman · 02-14-2009, 07:06 AM

I do not think its right that you down the whole Meredith Fishing Derby just because of five guy doing donuts on a four wheeler and using the bushes.

On Sunday the winds reach speeds up to 40 MHP, I can see how some trash got away from some people.

All summer long you see stuff floating on the water from boaters, maybe you want to stop boating also? And what about the low flying airplane, shut down the airport also?

What about the other 5000 plus that did registered for the derby? The ones who took the trash home with them, the ones that spend money at the local restaurants and lodging.

I think the derby is well run and the people taking part in it are mostly sportsmen you do care for the environment and land owners.

SteveA · 02-14-2009, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by HUH

I know I know .. great for the economy but personally I could do without them.

I've got no problem with HUH's comments. He acknowledges that it is his "personal" experience and the value of the Derby to the local economy.

He didn't put down the "whole derby", just the ones that deserved it. IMHO, whether it's the derby, or trash tossing boaters, people that use a shared space like the lake should face stiff penalties if caught messing it up.

Carry in/Carry out should be plastered all over the derby advertising and marketing materials. Same for boat yards and public docks. Along with serious big dollar fines for violations.

VitaBene is right on with his comment.
"There is no excuse for that at all- leave no trace is the motto I try to live by. "

If there was a "Thank You" button on this thread both HUH and VitaBene would have one from me.

RLW · 02-14-2009, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveA

I've got no problem with HUH's comments. He acknowledges that it is his "personal" experience and the value of the Derby to the local economy.

He didn't put down the "whole derby", just the ones that deserved it. IMHO, whether it's the derby, or trash tossing boaters, people that use a shared space like the lake should face stiff penalties if caught messing it up.

Carry in/Carry out should be plastered all over the derby advertising and marketing materials. Same for boat yards and public docks. Along with serious big dollar fines for violations.

VitaBene is right on with his comment.
"There is no excuse for that at all- leave no trace is the motto I try to live by. "

If there was a "Thank You" button on this thread both HUH and VitaBene would have one from me.

Well said and I second the whole Quote

tpabrad · 02-14-2009, 06:41 PM

Its terrible that people cant control themselves, or even clean up after themselves. I know we made a lot of garbage when we were up there last year but the whole group made a great effort to keep all the garbage in a container.

Arubaman · 02-15-2009, 07:15 AM

When you start a comment with "Sounds like everyone had a great time at the derby.. By the looks of all the trash ive picked up on the ice, it was a great weekend." To me that's downing the whole derby.

We have owned property on Winnipesaukee since 1978,and my parents owned property from the early 50's. I welcome all events on the lake and around the lake.

SAMIAM · 02-15-2009, 09:57 AM

Didn't sound to me like he was downing the whole derby.....just making a comment about the trash which is true. There is a lot more trash after the derby than most other weeks....had a many a fisherman take a "whiz" in front of my place, too, but doesn't mean we don't welcome the tourney. Last week was one of our better weeks this winter and I don't mind picking up a few beer cans and putting up with a little acting up. Wish we had one every week.

Nadia · 02-16-2009, 03:12 PM

The piles and piles of dead "non winning" fish I saw one year when walking around after the derby really upset myself and my husband. With the tight regulations imposed on anglers regularly I can't imagine anyone would be allowed to let fish pile up like that and go to waste...

EricP · 02-16-2009, 05:33 PM

I am not a fisherman and the derby doesn't really do anything for me, but there are a lot of very interested and excited people that love it and I walk around and talk to them and just enjoy the experience. We have 4 seasons here are there are lots of activities for everyone during each of them, to each his own. Respect the environment and pickup after yourself and we can continue to have these types of events. I don't like what appears to be wasted fish as Nadia points out. To bad we can't ship it to the Polar Bears who are running out of food while we throw it away, I'm sure they'd feast on it.

ApS · 03-06-2009, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by VitaBene

There is no excuse for that at all- leave no trace is the motto I try to live by.

Based on my long observations here and elsewhere, I don't think Lake Winnipesaukee has a problem regarding trash left behind.

This was what tourists saw on a Monday after a regular weekend at a popular river side location in a Southwestern state:

And even an Inauguration will leave more than a "trace":

donnamatrix · 03-07-2009, 03:47 PM

All the non winning Fish at the Derby are donated to the Squam Lakes Science Center to feed the otters, bears and raptor birds at the center throughout the winter. Their truck comes to the derby HQ around 5pm on Sunday, and all the fish are loaded into the truck. They DO NOT GO TO WASTE. THey are not thrown away, they are used to feed the animals at the center. Believe me, I know, since I am a member of the Rotary and a member of the Derby Committee.

corollaman · 03-07-2009, 05:43 PM

Winnipesaukee is a beautiful lake and I want it to stay that way....I never dump my trash in the lake and I hate it when people do.They have no right to be on the lake if they're not gonna take care of it.

hazelnut · 03-07-2009, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by donnamatrix

All the non winning Fish at the Derby are donated to the Squam Lakes Science Center to feed the otters, bears and raptor birds at the center throughout the winter. Their truck comes to the derby HQ around 5pm on Sunday, and all the fish are loaded into the truck. They DO NOT GO TO WASTE. THey are not thrown away, they are used to feed the animals at the center. Believe me, I know, since I am a member of the Rotary and a member of the Derby Committee.

Awesome donnamatix. That is so great to hear. Thank you so much for your efforts with this worthy event that does so much for the local economy during the winter months.

Winnipesaukee Divers · 03-08-2009, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by corollaman

Winnipesaukee is a beautiful lake and I want it to stay that way....I never dump my trash in the lake and I hate it when people do.They have no right to be on the lake if they're not gonna take care of it.

Some of us see it differently, "One man's trash is another man's treasure". It's exciting to come on to a bottle dump, AKA "trash heap" while diving in the lake. What was seen as just trash, 50, 100, 150, 200 or 250 years ago is now valuable artifacts today. Just think how boring the life of a lake diver would be if our forefathers had the same attitude you have.

But, then again, you probably have a problem with divers, boats over 24', sailboats, fast boats, PWCs, bassers, rafters or anyone else using "Your" lake... Or maybe not, just seems that way to me.

KonaChick · 03-08-2009, 09:37 AM

WD...I didn't take corollaman's post as confrontational to anyone in particular. He simply feels it's important to keep Lake Winni pristine and beautiful and from what I can tell his message is "Please Don't Pollute". I think that's a message we can all agree on!

EZ-Pass · 03-08-2009, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Winnipesaukee Divers

Some of us see it differently, "One man's trash is another man's treasure". It's exciting to come on to a bottle dump, AKA "trash heap" while diving in the lake. What was seen as just trash, 50, 100, 150, 200 or 250 years ago is now valuable artifacts today. Just think how boring the life of a lake diver would be if our forefathers had the same attitude you have.

But, then again, you probably have a problem with divers, boats over 24', sailboats, fast boats, PWCs, bassers, rafters or anyone else using "Your" lake... Or maybe not, just seems that way to me.

Man you have a problem if you think people should throw trash in the lake for some future diver to play with in the years to come. I think you need this stuck some palce.

dpg · 03-09-2009, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by corollaman

Winnipesaukee is a beautiful lake and I want it to stay that way....I never dump my trash in the lake and I hate it when people do.They have no right to be on the lake if they're not gonna take care of it.

I think your being a little dramatic..

dpg · 03-09-2009, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by EZ-Pass

Man you have a problem if you think people should throw trash in the lake for some future diver to play with in the years to come. I think you need this stuck some palce.

Nobody exactly said people SHOULD throw their trash in the lake. Or maybe I missed that one.

RLW · 03-09-2009, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dpg

Nobody exactly said people SHOULD throw their trash in the lake. Or maybe I missed that one.

Check out thread 15. I maybe reading it wrong as I see it the same as EZ-Pass. It appears to me that some divers like to see people leave their trash so that they can dive at later years to see what is amongst the trash at the bottom of the lake.

Nadia · 04-07-2009, 10:21 PM

Thank you so much for posting that information! Although it still upsets me to see them all lying there dead atleast I know they are put to a good cause.

Mee-n-Mac · 04-07-2009, 11:52 PM

Since this thread came back to life ...

Maybe the beaver we saw last Sunday on the ice in Alton was looking for some of the "trash" left in Meredith. Either some frozen fish ("gimme that filet 'o' fish") or the leftover firewood seen below ... (4/5/09)

ApS · 04-08-2009, 02:56 AM

Most of what you've circled is "dimensional stock" (dried construction stock).

Beavers prefer green "round stock" for building—after they've chewed the bark off it, that is.

"Ice-Out" might be the best time to put protective netting around your favorite trees, though.

Oops...Never mind...

Final Score...Beaver: 1 Protective netting: 0

HUH · 04-10-2009, 04:59 PM

Right off gilford beach..

Steveo · 04-11-2009, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Acres per Second

Most of what you've circled is "dimensional stock" (dried construction stock).

Beavers prefer green "round stock" for building—after they've chewed the bark off it, that is.

"Ice-Out" might be the best time to put protective netting around your favorite trees, though.

Oops...Never mind...

Final Score...Beaver: 1 Protective netting: 0

I put up chicken wire around my trees, 3 feet high seems to do the trick. My neighbor had a tree that was chewed of at the bottom but was tied to another tree about 6 feet up so it didn't fall. You know what those devilish beavers did - they climbed above the tie off and chewed the tree off so it would fall - UNBELIEVABLE!

Treerider · 04-11-2009, 01:26 PM

HUH must really be ticked off by all the trash on the sides of the road too! Or is it just the Special trash on HIS (Her) Lake???

Mink Islander · 04-11-2009, 05:10 PM

So treerider, do you have a point here? Is there pollution you like? I think you'll find that most of the folks on this site share a common love for the lake. I don't think any of us like to see it trashed.

And you?

VitaBene · 04-11-2009, 08:01 PM

Regardless of where the trash is, it is one of the biggest indicators of poor parenting and our declining respect for our fellow human beings.

I have been known to redeposit a bag of fast food refuse back into a car- it was priceless.

HUH · 04-23-2009, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Treerider

HUH must really be ticked off by all the trash on the sides of the road too! Or is it just the Special trash on HIS (Her) Lake???

I dont understand your point.. are you saying that if trash in the lake is ok?
Or that its anyones right to pollute?

02-12-2009, 05:55 PM	#1
HUH Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 230 Thanks: 21 Thanked 14 Times in 8 Posts	Derby trash Sounds like everyone had a great time at the derby.. By the looks of all the trash ive picked up on the ice, it was a great weekend. I know the five guys who endlessly did donuts on four wheelers and urinated behind the bushes in my yard seemed to be having a grand ol time. I know I know .. great for the economy but personally I could do without them.

02-16-2009, 03:12 PM	#9
Nadia Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Laconia/Vegas/Florida Posts: 160 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 24 Thanked 19 Times in 10 Posts	Such a waste The piles and piles of dead "non winning" fish I saw one year when walking around after the derby really upset myself and my husband. With the tight regulations imposed on anglers regularly I can't imagine anyone would be allowed to let fish pile up like that and go to waste...

03-07-2009, 03:47 PM	#12
donnamatrix Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonboro Posts: 833 Thanks: 24 Thanked 258 Times in 120 Posts	Dead Fish at Derby All the non winning Fish at the Derby are donated to the Squam Lakes Science Center to feed the otters, bears and raptor birds at the center throughout the winter. Their truck comes to the derby HQ around 5pm on Sunday, and all the fish are loaded into the truck. They DO NOT GO TO WASTE. THey are not thrown away, they are used to feed the animals at the center. Believe me, I know, since I am a member of the Rotary and a member of the Derby Committee.

04-07-2009, 10:21 PM	#21
Nadia Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Laconia/Vegas/Florida Posts: 160 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 24 Thanked 19 Times in 10 Posts	Thank You Donnamatrix Thank you so much for posting that information! Although it still upsets me to see them all lying there dead atleast I know they are put to a good cause.

04-07-2009, 11:52 PM	#22
Mee-n-Mac Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,943 Thanks: 23 Thanked 111 Times in 51 Posts	Floating trash Since this thread came back to life ... Maybe the beaver we saw last Sunday on the ice in Alton was looking for some of the "trash" left in Meredith. Either some frozen fish ("gimme that filet 'o' fish") or the leftover firewood seen below ... (4/5/09) Attached Images __________________ Mee'n'Mac "Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by simple stupidity or ignorance. The latter are a lot more common than the former." - RAH

02-14-2009, 07:06 AM	#3
Arubaman Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Manchester,NH Posts: 32 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I do not think its right that you down the whole Meredith Fishing Derby just because of five guy doing donuts on a four wheeler and using the bushes. On Sunday the winds reach speeds up to 40 MHP, I can see how some trash got away from some people. All summer long you see stuff floating on the water from boaters, maybe you want to stop boating also? And what about the low flying airplane, shut down the airport also? What about the other 5000 plus that did registered for the derby? The ones who took the trash home with them, the ones that spend money at the local restaurants and lodging. I think the derby is well run and the people taking part in it are mostly sportsmen you do care for the environment and land owners.

02-14-2009, 06:41 PM	#6
tpabrad Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 58 Thanks: 5 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Its terrible that people cant control themselves, or even clean up after themselves. I know we made a lot of garbage when we were up there last year but the whole group made a great effort to keep all the garbage in a container.

02-15-2009, 07:15 AM	#7
Arubaman Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Manchester,NH Posts: 32 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	When you start a comment with "Sounds like everyone had a great time at the derby.. By the looks of all the trash ive picked up on the ice, it was a great weekend." To me that's downing the whole derby. We have owned property on Winnipesaukee since 1978,and my parents owned property from the early 50's. I welcome all events on the lake and around the lake.

02-15-2009, 09:57 AM	#8
SAMIAM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 2,836 Thanks: 326 Thanked 1,626 Times in 562 Posts	Didn't sound to me like he was downing the whole derby.....just making a comment about the trash which is true. There is a lot more trash after the derby than most other weeks....had a many a fisherman take a "whiz" in front of my place, too, but doesn't mean we don't welcome the tourney. Last week was one of our better weeks this winter and I don't mind picking up a few beer cans and putting up with a little acting up. Wish we had one every week.

02-16-2009, 05:33 PM	#10
EricP Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 329 Thanks: 28 Thanked 11 Times in 7 Posts	I am not a fisherman and the derby doesn't really do anything for me, but there are a lot of very interested and excited people that love it and I walk around and talk to them and just enjoy the experience. We have 4 seasons here are there are lots of activities for everyone during each of them, to each his own. Respect the environment and pickup after yourself and we can continue to have these types of events. I don't like what appears to be wasted fish as Nadia points out. To bad we can't ship it to the Polar Bears who are running out of food while we throw it away, I'm sure they'd feast on it.

03-07-2009, 05:43 PM	#13
corollaman Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 181 Thanks: 8 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts	Winnipesaukee is a beautiful lake and I want it to stay that way....I never dump my trash in the lake and I hate it when people do.They have no right to be on the lake if they're not gonna take care of it.

03-08-2009, 09:37 AM	#16
KonaChick Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 518 Thanks: 19 Thanked 62 Times in 15 Posts	WD...I didn't take corollaman's post as confrontational to anyone in particular. He simply feels it's important to keep Lake Winni pristine and beautiful and from what I can tell his message is "Please Don't Pollute". I think that's a message we can all agree on!

04-08-2009, 02:56 AM	#23
ApS Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Florida (Sebring & Keys), Wolfeboro Posts: 5,788 Thanks: 2,085 Thanked 742 Times in 532 Posts	Most of what you've circled is "dimensional stock" (dried construction stock). Beavers prefer green "round stock" for building—after they've chewed the bark off it, that is. "Ice-Out" might be the best time to put protective netting around your favorite trees, though. Oops...Never mind... Final Score...Beaver: 1 Protective netting: 0 __________________ Every MP who enters Winter Harbor will pass by my porch of 67 years...

04-10-2009, 04:59 PM	#24
HUH Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 230 Thanks: 21 Thanked 14 Times in 8 Posts	Entire bobhouse through the ice last week Right off gilford beach..

04-11-2009, 01:26 PM	#26
Treerider Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NH Posts: 54 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 6 Posts	HUH must really be ticked off by all the trash on the sides of the road too! Or is it just the Special trash on HIS (Her) Lake???

04-11-2009, 05:10 PM	#27
Mink Islander Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 753 Thanks: 59 Thanked 271 Times in 129 Posts	Troll Alert So treerider, do you have a point here? Is there pollution you like? I think you'll find that most of the folks on this site share a common love for the lake. I don't think any of us like to see it trashed. And you?

04-11-2009, 08:01 PM	#28
VitaBene Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 3,532 Thanks: 1,574 Thanked 1,608 Times in 823 Posts	Disgusting Regardless of where the trash is, it is one of the biggest indicators of poor parenting and our declining respect for our fellow human beings. I have been known to redeposit a bag of fast food refuse back into a car- it was priceless.