Drive Carefully Out On The Lakes

_C_H_R_I_S_ · 02-21-2010, 11:33 PM

I was watching WMUR news and there were 4 incidents on NH lakes this weekend...One guy from Derry lost his life.

I can not believe how much open water is around this time of year and it keeps getting worse and worse as each day passes.

Today, I saw a bobhouse starting to go in near Varney Point...The combination of a bubbler and the sun reflecting down the sides has taken its toll on the ice. If any of you have a bobhouse in the surrounding area of Gilford Beach and can not check it each day, let me know and I would be happy to check it out for you and let you know the conditions.

I took a ride over to Governors Island this morning to check out the truck that went through. I always see pictures and videos online of the removal process but it is quite impressive to see in person...Dive Winnipesaukee did a great job and made it look easy! I took some pictures and a short video and posted them on my email account (Click the folders until the pictures appear). If you have any problems, please let me know - Thanks!

http://cid-a66fc8796fa3a4bf.skydrive...SAUKEE%20FORUM

fatlazyless · 02-21-2010, 11:50 PM

Thanks for posting those pictures....pix r better than words.....and the truck looks to be about a 2004 white Chevy silverado or sierra 1500 xtra cab 4-wheel drive w/ a matching fiberglass cap, in water of about six feet, deep enough so just about one inch of cap was above water. Understand the two 52 year old guys were returning from Welch Island to a house on Governor's Island.....and they suffered minor abrasions and bruises and cold.

Question: In this instance, one was transported by a Laconia ambulance, and the other was transported by a Gilford ambulance. What would you guess is the price the municipality bills out to either the individual or their insurance company for ambulance transportation to LRG-Hospital in nearby Laconia? .....$250.....$500.....$750......$1000 ?

In a case like this with just minor scrapes and bruise and cold, probably I would say no -thankyou and call a taxi cab!

VitaBene · 02-22-2010, 05:22 AM

The ice is getting that milky "bad" ice look early this year. I am still walking it with the dog but no more driving on it for us this winter.

Please be safe out there! Drive with your windows open and if you do start going down try to shut your engine off- it may save your motor from hydro-locking (I know this may be the last thing on your mind when your ride is sinking!).

fatlazyless · 02-22-2010, 06:54 AM

Here's a related item in today's Feb 22 www.citizen.com; yesterday, a Ford Explorer w/ two Massachusetts guys broke thru about 5" of ice into 100' depth of Newfound Lake, at Wellington State Park & Bell Island, prompting the local volunteer fire dept to cancel their big annual fire dept-fund raiser, ice fishing derby, over ice safety concerns.

Removing a vehicle in 100' depth, thru the ice, is very problematic, and raises the question on how the state will administer the non-removal fine of $500/day that is supposed to engage after 48-hours.

This could be a job for Super Man?

Lakegeezer · 02-22-2010, 08:04 AM

I'm sorry I did not wait till the deadline to put in my guess for the ice-out contest. If I was making the prediction today, it would be different. There is a protruding rock formation in the water nearby where the melting starts each spring. Once the plume of open water extends 100 feet, it is usually three weeks till ice-out. It has reached that point. Having iceout three weeks from today, on March 15'th, would beat the previous record by two weeks, so is unlikely. We are in for a snowy pattern which will protect the ice from the strong spring sun, but still, iceout is looking to be unusually early this year.

corollaman · 02-22-2010, 08:41 AM

A car should not be out on the ice, let alone a truck! you don't know where the weak spots are! I think someone would have to be out of their mind for bringing a vehicle out there.

dpg · 02-22-2010, 11:56 AM

Won't open for me, not sure about anyone else.

Island Life · 02-22-2010, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dpg

Won't open for me, not sure about anyone else.

Same here; the pictures/video wouldn't open for me, either.

_C_H_R_I_S_ · 02-22-2010, 01:30 PM

I know it was working last night so I looked into it and tried to upload the photos to a new folder and they still showed to be a Red X. I think the problem is on the email servers end or possibly the bandwidth has been reached. I put the pictures on Photobucket just now - Hopefully this will last longer.

http://s420.photobucket.com/albums/p...CE%2002-21-10/

topwater · 02-22-2010, 04:10 PM

For what it is worth, I did open up the last site (photobucket) and started to look at the pictures, and all of a sudden my computer started to recieve quite a few major viruses, and my anti spyware kicked on and warned me about these FATAL VIRUSES. Not being a computer guru, I called my son the expert, and he had me shut the computer down ASAP. Once I re-booted, all was well. I did see the first 3 pictures, and this happened on the 4th picture. Maybe serious, maybe nothing, but I thought I Should tell you my experinces with these pictures.

NoBozo · 02-22-2010, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topwater

For what it is worth, I did open up the last site (photobucket) and started to look at the pictures, and all of a sudden my computer started to recieve quite a few major viruses, and my anti spyware kicked on and warned me about these FATAL VIRUSES. Not being a computer guru, I called my son the expert, and he had me shut the computer down ASAP. Once I re-booted, all was well. I did see the first 3 pictures, and this happened on the 4th picture. Maybe serious, maybe nothing, but I thought I Should tell you my experinces with these pictures.

Had the same thing happen to me as well, with a warning from AVG. I loooked at the pictures anyhow and then went and did a Full Computer Scan both with AVG, and Spybot S&D. Nothing was found. After that I did a run with CCleaner to remove cookies, temp internet files, etc. So far so good.

NB

martbri7 · 02-22-2010, 06:48 PM

Had the same as the above two...please don't open the link...it seems to have a trojan or something like that....I shut my PC down also and have had no problems but what I know with Trojan worms they can be embedded.. anybody have a free way to find out? I also noticed it wasn't my dsesktop that popped up it just looked like it and a pop up wanting me to save a file.

Coolbreeze · 02-22-2010, 07:43 PM

My mother -in-law was asking to go out in her escalade, I told her to go right ahead that it was safe. I also told her that it was safe to drive on the grey spots on the ice. It sure is going to be quiet when she is gone...

_C_H_R_I_S_ · 02-22-2010, 08:19 PM

I just scanned all of my photos that I put on photobucket and there was no virus in them. I know some programs find false positive viruses which may be what is happening here with something else that is in the site...I PROMISE the photos are clean - I would not do that to somebody.

martbri7 · 02-22-2010, 09:04 PM

I have no problems with my pc I just wanted to make sure nothing happened it was really weird one second I'm looking at a white truck...next thing this huge mess appears talking about viruses...I believe you in no viruses but I just saw the last two posts and had to comment.

eillac@dow · 02-22-2010, 10:14 PM

C.H.R.I.S. I am sure what you posted was clean, but I think it is PhotoBucket.

I looked at all the photo's with no problem at all. BUT after reading these past few posts, I remembered some other pictures that my nephew had sent me and they were from PhotoBucket and when I viewed them all hell broke loose. That computer that I used to view them is now in for service being cleaned.

Again, when I viewed C.H.R.I.S.'s , I had no issues, but I have had problems with Photobucket in the past. So heed the warning.

Now back to C.H.R.I.S.'s original reason for posting....be careful out there. Don't make stupid choices. It ain't worth it.

upthesaukee · 02-22-2010, 11:01 PM

We can all get hit with trojans, viruses, malware, etc. from a variety of sites, not just photobucket, but MySpace, Facebook, and a host of other reputable sites. Fortunately, having a good up-to-date internet security package on your computer will help to keep these items from actually getting into our computers. As posters, we all do everything we can to make sure that our postings are clean. It is others that look for a way to mess up a few million computers.
Now back to Chris's excellent thread. Great pics.

DailyWolfeboro · 02-23-2010, 10:02 AM

Great photos. These are the guys from Dive Winnipesaukee that are doing the recovery.

As you can see, they do a good job getting the truck out right-side up!

02-21-2010, 11:33 PM	#1
_C_H_R_I_S_ Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gilford, NH Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Drive Carefully Out On The Lakes I was watching WMUR news and there were 4 incidents on NH lakes this weekend...One guy from Derry lost his life. I can not believe how much open water is around this time of year and it keeps getting worse and worse as each day passes. Today, I saw a bobhouse starting to go in near Varney Point...The combination of a bubbler and the sun reflecting down the sides has taken its toll on the ice. If any of you have a bobhouse in the surrounding area of Gilford Beach and can not check it each day, let me know and I would be happy to check it out for you and let you know the conditions. I took a ride over to Governors Island this morning to check out the truck that went through. I always see pictures and videos online of the removal process but it is quite impressive to see in person...Dive Winnipesaukee did a great job and made it look easy! I took some pictures and a short video and posted them on my email account (Click the folders until the pictures appear). If you have any problems, please let me know - Thanks! http://cid-a66fc8796fa3a4bf.skydrive...SAUKEE%20FORUM

02-21-2010, 11:50 PM	#2
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,528 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 296 Thanked 957 Times in 698 Posts	Thanks for posting those pictures....pix r better than words.....and the truck looks to be about a 2004 white Chevy silverado or sierra 1500 xtra cab 4-wheel drive w/ a matching fiberglass cap, in water of about six feet, deep enough so just about one inch of cap was above water. Understand the two 52 year old guys were returning from Welch Island to a house on Governor's Island.....and they suffered minor abrasions and bruises and cold. Question: In this instance, one was transported by a Laconia ambulance, and the other was transported by a Gilford ambulance. What would you guess is the price the municipality bills out to either the individual or their insurance company for ambulance transportation to LRG-Hospital in nearby Laconia? .....$250.....$500.....$750......$1000 ? In a case like this with just minor scrapes and bruise and cold, probably I would say no -thankyou and call a taxi cab! __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake!

02-22-2010, 05:22 AM	#3
VitaBene Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 3,532 Thanks: 1,574 Thanked 1,608 Times in 823 Posts	Done for the Winter The ice is getting that milky "bad" ice look early this year. I am still walking it with the dog but no more driving on it for us this winter. Please be safe out there! Drive with your windows open and if you do start going down try to shut your engine off- it may save your motor from hydro-locking (I know this may be the last thing on your mind when your ride is sinking!).

02-22-2010, 06:54 AM	#4
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,528 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 296 Thanked 957 Times in 698 Posts	Here's a related item in today's Feb 22 www.citizen.com; yesterday, a Ford Explorer w/ two Massachusetts guys broke thru about 5" of ice into 100' depth of Newfound Lake, at Wellington State Park & Bell Island, prompting the local volunteer fire dept to cancel their big annual fire dept-fund raiser, ice fishing derby, over ice safety concerns. Removing a vehicle in 100' depth, thru the ice, is very problematic, and raises the question on how the state will administer the non-removal fine of $500/day that is supposed to engage after 48-hours. This could be a job for Super Man? __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake! Last edited by fatlazyless; 02-22-2010 at 07:28 AM.

02-22-2010, 08:04 AM	#5
Lakegeezer Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Moultonboro, NH Posts: 1,657 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 342 Thanked 618 Times in 278 Posts	I'm sorry I did not wait till the deadline to put in my guess for the ice-out contest. If I was making the prediction today, it would be different. There is a protruding rock formation in the water nearby where the melting starts each spring. Once the plume of open water extends 100 feet, it is usually three weeks till ice-out. It has reached that point. Having iceout three weeks from today, on March 15'th, would beat the previous record by two weeks, so is unlikely. We are in for a snowy pattern which will protect the ice from the strong spring sun, but still, iceout is looking to be unusually early this year. __________________ -lg

02-22-2010, 08:41 AM	#6
corollaman Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 181 Thanks: 8 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts	A car should not be out on the ice, let alone a truck! you don't know where the weak spots are! I think someone would have to be out of their mind for bringing a vehicle out there.

02-22-2010, 11:56 AM	#7
dpg Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,560 Thanks: 149 Thanked 229 Times in 166 Posts	Won't open for me, not sure about anyone else.

02-22-2010, 01:30 PM	#9
_C_H_R_I_S_ Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gilford, NH Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I know it was working last night so I looked into it and tried to upload the photos to a new folder and they still showed to be a Red X. I think the problem is on the email servers end or possibly the bandwidth has been reached. I put the pictures on Photobucket just now - Hopefully this will last longer. http://s420.photobucket.com/albums/p...CE%2002-21-10/

02-22-2010, 04:10 PM	#10
topwater Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 302 Thanks: 85 Thanked 116 Times in 48 Posts	For what it is worth, I did open up the last site (photobucket) and started to look at the pictures, and all of a sudden my computer started to recieve quite a few major viruses, and my anti spyware kicked on and warned me about these FATAL VIRUSES. Not being a computer guru, I called my son the expert, and he had me shut the computer down ASAP. Once I re-booted, all was well. I did see the first 3 pictures, and this happened on the 4th picture. Maybe serious, maybe nothing, but I thought I Should tell you my experinces with these pictures.

02-22-2010, 06:48 PM	#12
martbri7 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 160 Thanks: 27 Thanked 83 Times in 17 Posts	Don't open that link...... Had the same as the above two...please don't open the link...it seems to have a trojan or something like that....I shut my PC down also and have had no problems but what I know with Trojan worms they can be embedded.. anybody have a free way to find out? I also noticed it wasn't my dsesktop that popped up it just looked like it and a pop up wanting me to save a file.

02-22-2010, 07:43 PM	#13
Coolbreeze Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 332 Thanks: 0 Thanked 51 Times in 26 Posts	My mother -in-law was asking to go out in her escalade, I told her to go right ahead that it was safe. I also told her that it was safe to drive on the grey spots on the ice. It sure is going to be quiet when she is gone...

02-22-2010, 08:19 PM	#14
_C_H_R_I_S_ Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gilford, NH Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I just scanned all of my photos that I put on photobucket and there was no virus in them. I know some programs find false positive viruses which may be what is happening here with something else that is in the site...I PROMISE the photos are clean - I would not do that to somebody.

02-22-2010, 09:04 PM	#15
martbri7 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 160 Thanks: 27 Thanked 83 Times in 17 Posts	I have no problems with my pc I have no problems with my pc I just wanted to make sure nothing happened it was really weird one second I'm looking at a white truck...next thing this huge mess appears talking about viruses...I believe you in no viruses but I just saw the last two posts and had to comment.

02-22-2010, 10:14 PM	#16
eillac@dow Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Dow Island & Weymouth, MA Posts: 365 Thanks: 295 Thanked 94 Times in 48 Posts	C.H.R.I.S. I am sure what you posted was clean, but I think it is PhotoBucket. I looked at all the photo's with no problem at all. BUT after reading these past few posts, I remembered some other pictures that my nephew had sent me and they were from PhotoBucket and when I viewed them all hell broke loose. That computer that I used to view them is now in for service being cleaned. Again, when I viewed C.H.R.I.S.'s , I had no issues, but I have had problems with Photobucket in the past. So heed the warning. Now back to C.H.R.I.S.'s original reason for posting....be careful out there. Don't make stupid choices. It ain't worth it.

02-22-2010, 11:01 PM	#17
upthesaukee Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Alton Bay Posts: 5,547 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 2,398 Thanked 1,918 Times in 1,061 Posts	quick off topic thought We can all get hit with trojans, viruses, malware, etc. from a variety of sites, not just photobucket, but MySpace, Facebook, and a host of other reputable sites. Fortunately, having a good up-to-date internet security package on your computer will help to keep these items from actually getting into our computers. As posters, we all do everything we can to make sure that our postings are clean. It is others that look for a way to mess up a few million computers. Now back to Chris's excellent thread. Great pics. __________________ I Live Here... I am always UPTHESAUKEE !!!!

02-23-2010, 10:02 AM	#18
DailyWolfeboro Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Wolfeboro, NH Posts: 46 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 4 Posts	Great photos. These are the guys from Dive Winnipesaukee that are doing the recovery. As you can see, they do a good job getting the truck out right-side up!