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Old 11-02-2024, 10:58 AM   #1
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Default End of Daylight savings

This isn't exactly a "lake topic", but everybody needs to remember that Daylight Savings time ends tomorrow morning at 2:00 AM. So, when you go to bed tonight, remember to set your CLOCKS BACK 1 hour.
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Old 11-02-2024, 12:48 PM   #2
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No…I’m staying on DST. You’re not the boss of me! 😉
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It's time to get rid of the daylight savings time change all over the country.
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Having retired some years ago, I do not make To Do lists, I barely watch the calendar and my body self times to happy hour.
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Back in my drinking college days in upstate NY I loved “fall back”. The bars closed at 2:00 - but suddenly it was 1:00 again!
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I’m not a fan of DST, at all.. Probably the most reasonable argument I’ve heard to keep it, is that it results in more light for school aged kids to get on the bus closer to daylight in the winter. As a school age bus rider in a previous life, I wasn’t a fan of DST then either. Mountain time never changes. Why in the Eastern time zone?
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Default DST all the way

If we’re going to mess with time, let’s go all-in on DST year-round. I’m fine with the sun dragging its feet until 7:30 AM around the Winter Solstice if it means we get those beautiful 9 PM summer twilights. And seriously, who’s asking for twilight at 3:30 AM in June? Keep that early sunrise nonsense an hour in the future where it belongs.
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If we’re going to mess with time, let’s go all-in on DST year-round. I’m fine with the sun dragging its feet until 7:30 AM around the Winter Solstice if it means we get those beautiful 9 PM summer twilights. And seriously, who’s asking for twilight at 3:30 AM in June? Keep that early sunrise nonsense an hour in the future where it belongs.
I agree. I'd much rather have 5:15 sunsets and late sunrises in December!

While we're at it, let's rotate the whole calendar so that the longest days are after I get out of school for the summer rather than in June, when I've still gotta teach and stuff!

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Frankly, being at the extreme eastern edge of the Eastern Time Zone is a pain. I've thought that either Maine, New Hampshire, and maybe Massachusetts should remain on Daylight Savings Time as I believe it will work better for us, or that we should shift from the Eastern Time Zone to the Atlantic Time Zone and then remain on Standard Time year round.

During the winter months I end up driving to and from work in the dark. If we were on EDT or AST, I would at least get to spend some time after work before the sun sets.

But that's just me.

It's a pain having to shift times twice a year, particularly since it isn't just a matter of changing the clock. I know the feline contingent at my house remains on Eastern Feline Time and they don't care about Standard or Daylight Savings.
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Frankly, being at the extreme eastern edge of the Eastern Time Zone is a pain. I've thought that either Maine, New Hampshire, and maybe Massachusetts should remain on Daylight Savings Time as I believe it will work better for us, or that we should shift from the Eastern Time Zone to the Atlantic Time Zone and then remain on Standard Time year round.

During the winter months I end up driving to and from work in the dark. If we were on EDT or AST, I would at least get to spend some time after work before the sun sets.

But that's just me.

It's a pain having to shift times twice a year, particularly since it isn't just a matter of changing the clock. I know the feline contingent at my house remains on Eastern Feline Time and they don't care about Standard or Daylight Savings.
It seems to me there was some leaning to AST in the NH legislature, maybe 8-10 years ago. The bill that was proposed tied it to Maine and Massachusetts doing the same thing, if I recall correctly. Hard to say since it didn't go very far. Isn't AST the plan in Nova Scotia and Newfoundland and USVI? We always go to USVI in the winter, so it's a one hour change from EST. No problem because on vacation schedules are flexible, not based on when the school bus comes, or whatever.
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It seems to me there was some leaning to AST in the NH legislature, maybe 8-10 years ago. The bill that was proposed tied it to Maine and Massachusetts doing the same thing, if I recall correctly. Hard to say since it didn't go very far. Isn't AST the plan in Nova Scotia and Newfoundland and USVI? We always go to USVI in the winter, so it's a one hour change from EST. No problem because on vacation schedules are flexible, not based on when the school bus comes, or whatever.
I recall pretty much the same thing, though I believe Maine did pass a resolution about staying one DST or switching to the Atlantic Time Zone under the conditions that both New Hampshire and Massachusetts do likewise. I think it's time that we revisit that idea.
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Oh nooo…..it’s so hard waking up at 2am to set the clocks back : )
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The only reason I object to it is that I don't adapt easily so I still wake up at the same time in the morning. 5 is bad enough but 4 is worse.
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Did you know from 1912 until 1949, China did have 5 time zones: Kunlun (UTC +05:30), Sinkiang-Tibet (UTC +06:00), Kansu-Szechwan (UTC + 07:00, Chungyuan (UTC +08:00). and Changpai (UTC +8:30).

In 1949, Communist Party Chairman, Mao Zedong, decided that all of China was to use Beijing Time.

China is approximately 3,100 miles wide from east to west. It is 3,400 miles long from North to south.

Time in China ........ www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_in_China#

"Daylight saving time .... www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time ..... was observed in China from 1945 to 1948, and from 1986 to 1991."
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My dogs have a harder times adjusting, as the evening meal is delayed an hour, and the morning poop walk is later also! Takes a week or so to readjust.
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Default Speaking of adjusting...

Many years ago I went to college in Iowa. I flew from Boston to Chicago, then took a train to Iowa. Chicago is in the Eastern Time Zone, but the train very quickly passed into the Central Time Zone, so time changed. Also, along the train route, several of the counties that the train passed through were "dry counties". Furthermore, the train itself had a regulation of only 1 alcoholic container per person at a time. So, with the combination of time changes, "dry counties", and limits on drinks, the conductors had a very difficult time of serving drinks and staying within the laws of each jurisdiction.
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My dogs have a harder times adjusting, as the evening meal is delayed an hour, and the morning poop walk is later also! Takes a week or so to readjust.
As soon as it's light out my dog is up and wants out, so it really doesn't make any difference, I'm on her time.
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As soon as it's light out my dog is up and wants out, so it really doesn't make any difference, I'm on her time.
Aren’t we all?

My dog is the same, totally disregards DST!!

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Oh nooo…..it’s so hard waking up at 2am to set the clocks back : )
This is confusing. To get up, do you set the alarm for 1, 2, or 3?
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DST almost became permanent a year or two ago, in Washington, DC it passed the House but failed in the Senate (or the other way around). I hate when it gets dark at 4 pm in December, but I would hate 8-8:15 am sunrises...can't win!
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Many years ago I went to college in Iowa. I flew from Boston to Chicago, then took a train to Iowa. Chicago is in the Eastern Time Zone, but the train very quickly passed into the Central Time Zone, so time changed. Also, along the train route, several of the counties that the train passed through were "dry counties". Furthermore, the train itself had a regulation of only 1 alcoholic container per person at a time. So, with the combination of time changes, "dry counties", and limits on drinks, the conductors had a very difficult time of serving drinks and staying within the laws of each jurisdiction.
Chicago is in the central time zone.
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You are correct; the confusion with time came due to some of the counties in Iowa staying on DST, while others went to Standard time.
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I got into this "discussion" with someone who "explained" it to me that by pushing the clocks back you gained one hour more of sunlight...Not in the morning, but in the day.

I asked him if he would help me with my dock. On one side the water was deeper than the other and I wanted him to pour several buckets from one side to the other to make them even...He looked confused...Probably still does, somewhere.
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I got into this "discussion" with someone who "explained" it to me that by pushing the clocks back you gained one hour more of sunlight...Not in the morning, but in the day.

I asked him if he would help me with my dock. On one side the water was deeper than the other and I wanted him to pour several buckets from one side to the other to make them even...He looked confused...Probably still does, somewhere.
Is that like "the glass half full" synopsis?
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I got into this "discussion" with someone who "explained" it to me that by pushing the clocks back you gained one hour more of sunlight...Not in the morning, but in the day.

I asked him if he would help me with my dock. On one side the water was deeper than the other and I wanted him to pour several buckets from one side to the other to make them even...He looked confused...Probably still does, somewhere.
Just turn the dock around. Last time I was in SF, the docks had been taken over by Sea Lions. Do you repair and maintain the docks for the animals, or just remove the docks?
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I got into this "discussion" with someone who "explained" it to me that by pushing the clocks back you gained one hour more of sunlight...Not in the morning, but in the day.

I asked him if he would help me with my dock. On one side the water was deeper than the other and I wanted him to pour several buckets from one side to the other to make them even...He looked confused...Probably still does, somewhere.
Some (lots of) years ago, a girl I was seeing was going to drive to Amherst, MA to visit her brother at UMass. She was advised of the Mass Pike tolls and that it would cost her a couple dollars or however much it was.

She replied, "OK, but how much is the toll on the way back?"

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Actually there are many toll bridges into 'the city' that charge 'double' the toll inbound, and no toll outbound. Assumes that most drivers are making a round trip every day and saves the backup on the 'unneeded' toll plaza.
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I got into this "discussion" with someone who "explained" it to me that by pushing the clocks back you gained one hour more of sunlight...Not in the morning, but in the day.

I asked him if he would help me with my dock. On one side the water was deeper than the other and I wanted him to pour several buckets from one side to the other to make them even...He looked confused...Probably still does, somewhere.
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Actually there are many toll bridges into 'the city' that charge 'double' the toll inbound, and no toll outbound. Assumes that most drivers are making a round trip every day and saves the backup on the 'unneeded' toll plaza.
Down here in the NY City area, both the GW and Tappan Zee Bridges only charge a toll "inbound" toward the city. So, when I use the Tappan Zee on my trip to NH, the tolls are about $5 more than the trip back to NJ.
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