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Old 12-21-2018, 03:09 PM   #1
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Okay letís see who can guess the total number of islands from the Weirs bridge to the Lakeport dam? I predict it is more than you think. Letís see who comes closest. Show your work. haha

Iím pretty sure I know the answer but Iím open to input.


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Old 12-21-2018, 03:35 PM   #2
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Okay letís see who can guess the total number of islands from the Weirs bridge to the Lakeport dam? I predict it is more than you think. Letís see who comes closest. Show your work. haha

Iím pretty sure I know the answer but Iím open to input.


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Old 12-21-2018, 03:46 PM   #3
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>3 going by Bizers definition ...


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Old 12-21-2018, 03:55 PM   #4
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Plummer. Big. Little.

Can't think of any others or anything that would qualify as an "island" in PB.
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Pixie is another one....there are more.


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Well, there is also the "island" at Channel Cottages, and the 3 islands at Thurston's Marina.

Any points for that?
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Old 12-21-2018, 05:23 PM   #7
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Yes several points! Although there are four Thurston Islands. Donít forget the one right at the bridge over which the gas dock is built. So we are up to nine. I count one more. Where is it?


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At the bridge end of Thurstons gas dock I believe it is attached to the bridge.
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Old 12-21-2018, 05:51 PM   #9
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Plummer Island, aka Christmas Island, used to be an island when it was Plummer Island, but now as Christmas Island it is no longer an island.

Not only does it have a bridge to the main land, it has water, sewer, electricity, telephone, cable-tv and high speed internet utilities, and the area at the bridge has been all filled in with boulders, rocks, gravel, soil, and trees and shrubs which makes it more like a peninsular, than an island. Plus Christmas is totally, wall to wall, covered entirely with town house condos.

It is totally attached to the main land there so how can it be considered to be an island?

Christmas Island is an island in name only. When it was Plummer Island, it was a real island.
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Hmmm possibly it abuts the bridge but not attached to the mainland? Iíll have to check that out.


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Old 12-21-2018, 06:09 PM   #11
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All true but then by that definition Loon Island at Sandy Point in Alton wouldnít be an Island either because there is now a causeway. Still itís referred to as an island under the conventional wisdom. Similar situation with Steamboat if you look closely there is a man made connection between it and the small island between it and Birch. Technically there are three Islands there but we all say these are two.


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It is totally attached to the main land there so how can it be considered to be an island?

Christmas Island is an island in name only. When it was Plummer Island, it was a real island.
By your definition, it is not an island because it is attached by a bridge, then I guess that you would not consider Black Cat, Governors, and Long Island as islands either.

Hmmm.............Interesting!
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.... and the area at the bridge has been all filled in with boulders, rocks, gravel, soil, and trees and shrubs which makes it more like a peninsular, than an island.
The space under the bridge has been filled with boulders, rocks, gravel, soil, and trees and shrubs which makes it more like a peninsular, than an island.

...... get what I said?

Is possible this was done so water and sewer pipes could be run underground there?

Apparently, what was once a bridge over the water, is now a bridge over filled in land that joins the main land to the former island with a "land bridge" so the main land and former island are attached by solid fill, above the water level, with an old bridge on top of the solid fill. The space under the bridge was filled in with solid fill, maybe for installing the utility pipes.
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So whereís the tenth island?!


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Old 12-21-2018, 08:26 PM   #15
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Yes several points! Although there are four Thurston Islands. Donít forget the one right at the bridge over which the gas dock is built. So we are up to nine. I count one more. Where is it?


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technically a peninsula now, its filled in from the bridge to the gas dock
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Don't forget Worcester Island!
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Old 12-22-2018, 11:41 AM   #17
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The tenth island is in Pickerel Cove. For those who canít fit through the tube it can be seen from the train.


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Pickerel Cove.

A little hard to get in there but sometimes worth it for the fishing opportunities

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmkZhgOe3Y4

A little weird when in the tunnel and the train goes over head.

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One might suggest that if it is in Pickerel Cove, it is not in Paugus Bay.
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Don't forget Worcester Island!
Also Oak Island in Meredith.
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True, one might suggest that. By that analysis though one might also suggest that Langley Cove is likewise not part of Paugus Bay. The distinction would be the width of the entrance. Thatís why I described the scope of the question as running from the Weirs bridge to the Lakeport dam presuming that Pickerel Cove would be subsumed.


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True, one might suggest that. By that analysis though one might also suggest that Langley Cove is likewise not part of Paugus Bay. The distinction would be the width of the entrance. Thatís why I described the scope of the question as running from the Weirs bridge to the Lakeport dam presuming that Pickerel Cove would be subsumed.
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Of course, it's your thread, so it is your definition. As a comparison, I would not consider Smith Cove part of Glendale Bay, nor would I consider Back Bay part of Wolfeboro Bay. There being no restricted access, I guess Langley Cove is part of Paugus, as common use is that a cove is smaller than a bay. As currently configured, I would say that Christmas Island is not an island. It's like baseball statistics. You make up the list and put an asterisk next to some records as "short season" and "expanded season".
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Iím in favor of the asterisk. It would apply to Pickerel Cove and Perch Cove and Back Bay and Parker Marine and The Basin but not Langley Cove or Smalle Cove or Minge Cove or Salmon Meadow Cove. Iím using a tunnel or bridge as the predicate for restricted access. Given that, I think Smith Cove would be non-asterisked. Iím just glad that the thread got everyone thinking about island trivia in the middle of winter. haha. Thanks for everyoneís participation. Now itís someone elseís turn to post a lake- or island-related trivia question!


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Iím in favor of the asterisk. It would apply to Pickerel Cove and Perch Cove and Back Bay and Parker Marine and The Basin but not Langley Cove or Smalle Cove or Minge Cove or Salmon Meadow Cove. Iím using a tunnel or bridge as the predicate for restricted access. Given that, I think Smith Cove would be non-asterisked. Iím just glad that the thread got everyone thinking about island trivia in the middle of winter. haha. Thanks for everyoneís participation. Now itís someone elseís turn to post a lake- or island-related trivia question!


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Parker Marine is on the Merrymeeting River at its confluence with the Lake. The river flows into the lake under the route 11 bridge.

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I stand enlightened! I was thinking about the little nearby cove just up from the Mt. Washington pier accessed by the tunnel under the street and got confused. I donít know the name of the cove. Anyone?


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This was a fun discussion, and it's nice to have a thread that seems to be ending without being hijacked. Well done.
However, I think it s incumbent on you as he initiator to be the ender and publish the final list.
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Good idea


1. Big Island (f/k/a Two Mike Island and Goat Island)

2. Little Island f/k/a Sheep Island and Paradise Island)

3. Christmas Island f/k/a Plummerís Island

4. Pixie Island

5. Thurstonís Island No. 1

6. Thurstonís Island No. 2

7. Thurstonís Island No. 3

8. Thurstonís Island No. 4* (to be confirmed)

9. Channel Island ((my proposed name) where the fire pit and bar are))

10. Island in Pickerel Cove*


Okay whoís next? (I still need to know the name of that restricted access cove in Alton Bay!)


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1. Big Island (f/k/a Two Mike Island and Goat Island)
First Thank you for the list

But just asking is number one correct with regard to "Two Mike Island" is that a typo ,,,,, again just asking.
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Yes thatís a typo. Sorry. Two Mile Island. Hereís another bit of trivium: Hull Island f/k/a Three and a Half Mile Island.


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I've heard it called two different names.

1. Just like Wolfeboro, called "Back Bay", and
2. Called Rand Cove

So I've been told, the hill just behind the bay and campground is Rand Hill. The road that goes from JP China and the Bay PO up to Alton Mt Rd and on to rte 11 near 11D is Rand Hill rd. Seems to make a good case for the cove to be called Rand Cove.

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Youíre right Dave. I just found it on the 1911 map labeled as Randís Cove.

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