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Old 04-30-2021, 01:12 PM   #201
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We are already at, or maybe over, 50% of US adults vaccinated.

Still too many sitting on the sidelines, but they're coming around.

No masks outdoors in Mass today!
Hope so! I can see that stores and restaurant workers are tired of fighting with people (and have pretty much stopped).

I think it will be a crazy summer around here!!
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Old 05-01-2021, 04:29 PM   #202
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Went to DD this morning in Laconia, there are huge signs on both doors and inside that says “Wear your mask before entering” yet there are a few old farts (yes I am old too) waiting around for their coffee without their mask on. I am not sure why they would bother putting up signs all over the store if they are not going to enforce it.
What is the point. Either enforce it or do not bother putting signs everywhere.
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Went to DD this morning in Laconia, there are huge signs on both doors and inside that says “Wear your mask before entering” yet there are a few old farts (yes I am old too) waiting around for their coffee without their mask on. I am not sure why they would bother putting up signs all over the store if they are not going to enforce it.
What is the point. Either enforce it or do not bother putting signs everywhere.
Workers are not gonna confront customers.
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Old 05-02-2021, 03:00 AM   #204
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Thanks, Newbie. As I referenced above, that piece was so easily debunked it was a testament to how much some of our forum members—and
Americans as a whole—are at the mercy of confirmation bias.
Watch TV "news" to curl up with "Confirmation Bias".
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Old 05-02-2021, 08:21 AM   #205
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Workers are not gonna confront customers.
Then they should be honest and change to sign to read
"Masks are optional" or "Masks are encouraged", that way I can decide if I want to go in or not.

I personally will not be going there again, a cup of coffee it's not worth dying for.
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Then they should be honest and change to sign to read
"Masks are optional" or "Masks are encouraged", that way I can decide if I want to go in or not.

I personally will not be going there again, a cup of coffee it's not worth dying for.
Is the coffee is that bad ?


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If you’re worried about dying why even leave the house?!


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If you’re worried about dying why even leave the house?!


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You either
  • Do not get it
  • Pretend you don't get it
  • You do not want to get it.

What is the point of advertising for something that you do not have?

That is the question. Had I known they are not going to enforce it, I would not have gone in there. Do you get it now?
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Old 05-03-2021, 11:03 PM   #209
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You either
  • Do not get it
  • Pretend you don't get it
  • You do not want to get it.

What is the point of advertising for something that you do not have?

That is the question. Had I known they are not going to enforce it, I would not have gone in there. Do you get it now?
You have to be realistic.

I talked to a home depot clerk once and he was explaining how people walk out with stuff in their carts all the time. They just watch them walk out because it’s not worth the confrontation. Clerks are not trained to deal with that sort of thing. So they just let it go.

They gonna put up a sign say we don’t care if you steal anything. We just recommend you don’t.

From the beginning of COViD there have been some folks that refuse to comply. You need to just deal with it, it’s like others said, just stay home.

There are loonies on the road, in every store, in every crowd long before COVID.

From the beginning of COVID I’ve chosen, is it worth it? Say I want take out (when things were really bad with COViD). Often I’d just say no to myself and skip it. Other times I went ahead and got it. We had our limits of seeing anything uncomfortable, we bail.

BTW, my wife and I lost our jobs over COVID confrontation with the owner of the company we worked at. He was a total a$$ in the beginning when states were shutting down. Basically he demanded we be there or he will take that as a resignation. We never went back. I also advised everyone in the company not to comply. Most eventually did leave.

When we went to Polly’s recently my wife was concerned. I said if it doesn’t look good we’ll just do take out. But as soon as we got there we both felt very safe. Tons of space, lots of care being taken. Was it a guarantee that some nut wouldn’t sneeze with no mask going by our table? No, but highly unlikely. About as likely as getting in a car accident getting there.

Some places might try to enforce. But I don’t think many will. You just have to realize that and judge what you are willing to risk. If you don’t feel comfortable then don’t go in.

For Dunkin Donuts just do drive up.
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Old 05-04-2021, 07:47 AM   #210
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The benefits of living in a "free" society is that we all have choices.

We were at WalMart yesterday and the sign now says "Masks Recommended". For the last several weeks I've seen a few people on every shopping trip to WalMart without masks -- and almost ALL looked to be over 60 years old. I saw nobody confronted by employees.

There will be people who will refuse the vaccine or wear a mask and there is zero to be done about it. People can hand-wring, fret and pontificate online every day for hours about it with zero effect. No minds will be changed. No shame will be accepted. That time has passed.

The simple solution is those who are afraid should either stay home (not a fun option) or continue to wear their masks when they feel they need to do so. Luckily there are numerous drive throughs, take-out options and curbside pickup services for those who wish to avoid crowds/people. When you think about it you can coast through the rest of your years without ever entering a store, restaurant or place where people gather.
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You have to be realistic.

I talked to a home depot clerk once and he was explaining how people walk out with stuff in their carts all the time. They just watch them walk out because it’s not worth the confrontation. Clerks are not trained to deal with that sort of thing. So they just let it go.

They gonna put up a sign say we don’t care if you steal anything. We just recommend you don’t.

From the beginning of COViD there have been some folks that refuse to comply. You need to just deal with it, it’s like others said, just stay home.

There are loonies on the road, in every store, in every crowd long before COVID.

From the beginning of COVID I’ve chosen, is it worth it? Say I want take out (when things were really bad with COViD). Often I’d just say no to myself and skip it. Other times I went ahead and got it. We had our limits of seeing anything uncomfortable, we bail.

BTW, my wife and I lost our jobs over COVID confrontation with the owner of the company we worked at. He was a total a$$ in the beginning when states were shutting down. Basically he demanded we be there or he will take that as a resignation. We never went back. I also advised everyone in the company not to comply. Most eventually did leave.

When we went to Polly’s recently my wife was concerned. I said if it doesn’t look good we’ll just do take out. But as soon as we got there we both felt very safe. Tons of space, lots of care being taken. Was it a guarantee that some nut wouldn’t sneeze with no mask going by our table? No, but highly unlikely. About as likely as getting in a car accident getting there.

Some places might try to enforce. But I don’t think many will. You just have to realize that and judge what you are willing to risk. If you don’t feel comfortable then don’t go in.

For Dunkin Donuts just do drive up.
I am sorry about losing your job, your ex boss sounds like a BIG A$$.
I hope you and your wife were able to secure something else.
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Old 05-04-2021, 09:43 AM   #212
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BTW, my wife and I lost our jobs over COVID confrontation with the owner of the company we worked at. He was a total a$$ in the beginning when states were shutting down. Basically he demanded we be there or he will take that as a resignation. We never went back. I also advised everyone in the company not to comply. Most eventually did leave.
Separate issue from covid in particular--I love that you walked on your jobs. So many people talk a big game about how tough and/or righteous they are, but then don't have the stones at crunch time.

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NPR just had an interview with an epidemiologist who said that because of new variants and vaccine unwillingness, the US is unlikely to ever achieve herd immunity.

Next week, 12+ aged people will have access to the vaccine, which is readily available to most anyone interested.

Two questions:

1. If you've been vaccinated, are you comfortable living life without a mask right now, including indoor public spaces?

2. When do we decide it's time to "let things fall where they may" given the availability of a choice to vaccinate?

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NPR just had an interview with an epidemiologist who said that because of new variants and vaccine unwillingness, the US is unlikely to ever achieve herd immunity.

Next week, 12+ aged people will have access to the vaccine, which is readily available to most anyone interested.

Two questions:

1. If you've been vaccinated, are you comfortable living life without a mask right now, including indoor public spaces?

2. When do we decide it's time to "let things fall where they may" given the availability of a choice to vaccinate?

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1. I have been, and yes.
2. Getting close when there are massive amounts of appointments readily available.
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NPR just had an interview with an epidemiologist who said that because of new variants and vaccine unwillingness, the US is unlikely to ever achieve herd immunity.

Next week, 12+ aged people will have access to the vaccine, which is readily available to most anyone interested.

Two questions:

1. If you've been vaccinated, are you comfortable living life without a mask right now, including indoor public spaces?

2. When do we decide it's time to "let things fall where they may" given the availability of a choice to vaccinate?

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1. Yes, vaccinated. Yes comfortable being anywhere without a mask.
2. Now.
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I presume that by “get” you mean “understand”. Yes, I understand the point you attempted to make. I was responding tongue-in-cheek to your hyperbolic panic over the prospect of dying from buying coffee while wearing a mask. I do credit you for not expecting others to act silly so you can feel better. That’s refreshing and laudable.


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I am sorry about losing your job, your ex boss sounds like a BIG A$$.
I hope you and your wife were able to secure something else.
Thanks. Yes we both have better jobs.

I can work 3 days a week from home after COVID.
And it’s about half way between my MA house and the NH lake house so I can commute from either house.

But damn, my wife just got a great job. Not sure how flexible they will be on the work from home part, after COVID. We’ll see.
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