moorings for Alton residents

pmj · 08-02-2004, 04:39 PM

Does anyone know if there are options for Alton residents who do not own waterfront property to place moorings anywhere along the shoreline ?
Thinking about putting a trailer sailer in the water and I am looking for options.

Thanks

pmj

madrasahs · 08-07-2004, 07:19 PM

You can use my mooring.

Moorings off lakefront owner property have to be approved by Concord every five years for suitability and distance from shore.

Just pay for a 2004 sticker fee, and you can use it for the rest of the summer.

(Hoping you don't have too large a sailboat for the mooring).

jrc · 08-09-2004, 09:07 AM

regarding moorings in Lake Winnipesaukee:

http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/...270/270-61.htm

It does not specifically prohibit moorings for non-landowners. But you have to prove you have legal access to the land.

DRH · 08-09-2004, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jrc

regarding moorings in Lake Winnipesaukee:

http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/...270/270-61.htm

It does not specifically prohibit moorings for non-landowners. But you have to prove you have legal access to the land.

It's interesting ... Section 270:61 states only that the applicant must have "legal access over land to such mooring", yet the actual mooring permit application states, "This application must be completed in its entirety by the owner of the shore front property." The application also requires that the applicant provide a copy of the deed to the shore front property to verify ownership.

jrc · 08-09-2004, 10:18 AM

NH has laws (RSA) and administrative rules. The rules have the force of law but are written more or less by the adminstration to implement the laws written by the legislators.

So in this bunch of rules:

http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rules/saf-c400.html

I found this:

(c) If the person desiring the single mooring is not the owner of shorefront property, the owner of shorefront property allowing access to the mooring shall file the application, form DSSS 18, on behalf of that person.

So really only shorefront property owners can apply for moorings, but they can allow someone else to install and use them. But they can't rent or sell them.

Fun4us · 08-09-2004, 11:37 AM

That would make more sense that it would be a home owner. I wouldnt want to come up one weekend and find a mooring out in front of my house!

3badbouys · 08-09-2004, 04:35 PM

My wife and I just went through the process for a mooring at her Dad's
place on Wini. She had to get the deed and state a valid reason as to why we needed a mooring ect.. The whole process took a couple months but we now have a valid mooring permit, we had our boat on it for the first time this past weekend. The sticker fee is $25 and if your sticker falls off the mooring you need to replace it and pay another $25. It is a yearly fee.

pmj · 08-09-2004, 07:54 PM

Well, that settles that. Ames Farm is looking like an OK option at this point since I don't own or have access to shore front property.

Seems a bit silly for the state to ask "why do you need a mooring", doesn't it?
I bet they get a few wise crack answers with that one

madrasahs , thank you for the offer. We won't need a mooring this summer.
I am researching options for next summer.

PMJ

upthesaukee · 08-09-2004, 09:28 PM

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Quote: Seems a bit silly for the state to ask "why do you need a mooring", doesn't it?
I bet they get a few wise crack answers with that one

I'm thinking that that type of question is the start to a line by Bill Envall, the comedian, and would end with "Here's your sign!!!!!!". the answer is open to a variety of subjects, ie: "I'm doing some money laundering and need to hide $25 real fast".

Enjoy your time on the lake.

08-02-2004, 04:39 PM	#1
pmj Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 240 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	moorings for Alton residents Does anyone know if there are options for Alton residents who do not own waterfront property to place moorings anywhere along the shoreline ? Thinking about putting a trailer sailer in the water and I am looking for options. Thanks pmj

08-07-2004, 07:19 PM	#2
madrasahs Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 381 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	If you don't mind the drive... You can use my mooring. Moorings off lakefront owner property have to be approved by Concord every five years for suitability and distance from shore. Just pay for a 2004 sticker fee, and you can use it for the rest of the summer. (Hoping you don't have too large a sailboat for the mooring).

08-09-2004, 09:07 AM	#3
jrc Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NH Posts: 2,689 Thanks: 33 Thanked 439 Times in 249 Posts	This is the law regarding moorings in Lake Winnipesaukee: http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/...270/270-61.htm It does not specifically prohibit moorings for non-landowners. But you have to prove you have legal access to the land.

08-09-2004, 10:18 AM	#5
jrc Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NH Posts: 2,689 Thanks: 33 Thanked 439 Times in 249 Posts	I didn't do my homework NH has laws (RSA) and administrative rules. The rules have the force of law but are written more or less by the adminstration to implement the laws written by the legislators. So in this bunch of rules: http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rules/saf-c400.html I found this: (c) If the person desiring the single mooring is not the owner of shorefront property, the owner of shorefront property allowing access to the mooring shall file the application, form DSSS 18, on behalf of that person. So really only shorefront property owners can apply for moorings, but they can allow someone else to install and use them. But they can't rent or sell them.

08-09-2004, 11:37 AM	#6
Fun4us Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Connecticut /Alton Bay Posts: 37 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Mooring That would make more sense that it would be a home owner. I wouldnt want to come up one weekend and find a mooring out in front of my house!

08-09-2004, 04:35 PM	#7
3badbouys Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	We just did it My wife and I just went through the process for a mooring at her Dad's place on Wini. She had to get the deed and state a valid reason as to why we needed a mooring ect.. The whole process took a couple months but we now have a valid mooring permit, we had our boat on it for the first time this past weekend. The sticker fee is $25 and if your sticker falls off the mooring you need to replace it and pay another $25. It is a yearly fee.

08-09-2004, 07:54 PM	#8
pmj Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 240 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thanks for the info,everyone Well, that settles that. Ames Farm is looking like an OK option at this point since I don't own or have access to shore front property. Seems a bit silly for the state to ask "why do you need a mooring", doesn't it? I bet they get a few wise crack answers with that one madrasahs , thank you for the offer. We won't need a mooring this summer. I am researching options for next summer. PMJ Last edited by pmj; 08-09-2004 at 07:58 PM.

08-09-2004, 09:28 PM	#9
upthesaukee Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Alton Bay Posts: 5,547 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 2,398 Thanked 1,918 Times in 1,061 Posts	[. Quote: Seems a bit silly for the state to ask "why do you need a mooring", doesn't it? I bet they get a few wise crack answers with that one I'm thinking that that type of question is the start to a line by Bill Envall, the comedian, and would end with "Here's your sign!!!!!!". the answer is open to a variety of subjects, ie: "I'm doing some money laundering and need to hide $25 real fast". Enjoy your time on the lake.