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08-07-2012, 12:16 PM | #1 |
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Abenaki Tower Vandalism
As if the constant, incessant defacing of Abenaki Tower wasn't bad enough (and believe me, it's reached new levels of ridiculousness this year), now it seems that vandals are not just content in leaving their awful "artwork" on the Tower itself, but on the rocks along the trail leading to the site.
As someone who's been fortunate enough to enjoy the Tower (and its predecessor) for my entire life, it befuddles me to no end imaging the mindset of someone who does this (and trust me, I've seen it all up there -- everything from a full-sized bedroom mirror smashed on the top level to a pile of human poop left behind). The conversation probably goes like this: "Hey, let's go to Abenaki Tower and check out the views!" "Okay, sounds like fun! But wait -- I have to go fetch my yellow spray paint, a few fat Sharpie markers, a brush, and perhaps a can of paint. Can't climb the tower without scrawling infantile nonsense all over it for everyone to enjoy!" When we're at the Lake, which is often, we visit the Tower daily -- usually for sunset. I would love, just once, to be there when someone is toting a brush and paint...just to ask them what they think they are accomplishing...if there's a sense of achievement or satisfaction gained from painting a big yellow pac man on the Tower. If they possessed half a brain (which is highly doubtful), they'd be mightily embarrassed. This is probably a futile rant, because the typical vandal would never be on this forum -- it takes more than one brain cell to type a URL into a browser.
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Here and at the Madison Boulder. Where next "Tomb of the Unknown Soldier". Can not understand the defacing of property, no matter where or what it is or what it stands for.
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08-07-2012, 02:37 PM | #3 |
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It was the Madison Boulder story that made me think of it again. Just senseless...
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I don't understand either. What do you think of after you have vandalized something? Gee, I hope that makes someone upset?
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It really makes me sad to hear that there has been more vandalism there. Abenaki Tower is a special place to me. I was just there last Thursday with my daughter and two grandchildren and took pictures of them at that big rock near the beginning of the trail. My son Bryan loved New Hampshire and we all have pictures of him at the top of Abenaki Tower his last summer. We went to the top of the tower on his birthday and released balloons in his memory. My bright little 6 year old grand daughter noticed the "bad words" scrawled on the wooden structure. It baffles my mind, why people do this. They come there because it's beautiful.......and leave it marked up. Makes no sense.
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It seems to go on everywhere and I will also add those who litter or throw cigarette butts out there window. And while I'm at the pollution of the human body with all these ridiculous tattoos. I know they are popular but I have never cared for them. I think the human body, as well as the world is better left untouched.
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People have been vandalizing stuff since there were people. Must be something in our DNA. Still sucks but the only prevention is connstant observation.
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Tattoos and LED lights on a boat. I think they're great!
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It really is upsetting when the joy of anything is ruined by vandals.
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How long will it be before... LED Tatoos....mini implants... NB
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Maybe we need a fake Abenaki Tower.
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The only way to stop this nonsense is to put significant punishments in place for vandalisim. Think Singapore and gum. After a short period of time and several penalties imposed, the acts of vandalsim would virtually cease. Unfortunately, the ACLU and similar organizations would never stand for it.
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Return to the old west. Vigilante justice? Really.
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The problem is people want to be able to leave a sign that they have been somewhere... It isn't good enough anymore to say hey I have been there, or even show a picture of the place with you in it... Because every one knows how to crop pictures on the computer...
So what have the infantile schmucks begun to do to prove to their friends that they have been some where??? They leave a tag, their signature, and take a picture of it... It seems funny at the time, and ends up on you tube if it is a video and all seems right in the world... What the infantile schmucks fail to realize is that the next person has to see their signature and be distracted by it... it is a lack of consideration for anyone else that has brought the American culture to it present inconsideration of property and people......
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and its not just kids
And its not just kids doing it. Go under the Long Island Bridge. Beer bottles and other trash placed there under the bridge. Wow, must feel pretty cool to do that. Its just ignorant. The inner city is moving up to the lakes region....look around
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People that vandalize are usually people that don't own property or even cars.If they did,the punishment I would deal out would have a lasting effect.Vandalize their possesions and see how they feel about that.
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There is now a spray-painted phrase on the Long Island Bridge. It's huge, and it was done over a period of at least a couple of days. The outline was done first and then they went back in filled in the letters. It's an awful sight. : (
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Abenaki Tower vandalism
I agree completely with Grant about the vandalism.
It will be interesting when some of these youthful vandals become parents, and want to take their children to the top for the views, and then they have to explain some of the grafitti, both narrative and pictorial, to their young children. Let them vandalize the side of their own home or garage if they are so intent on spraying and marking up something. Dropping someone off the top might be a little extreme, but the thought is appealing. |
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Somehow I don't envision these individuals as becoming that type of parent...
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"Hey, let's go to (Some secluded location) and get high/stoned/drunk/wasted...!" Which explains why nothing you find makes any sense.
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I was told by the Moultonborough Road Agent that the bridge is under the jurisdiction of NHDOT regarding cleaning. I have no contacts there...
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A Sign of the Times
I like the idea of a game camera and a sign saying the premises is monitored by hidden video cameras. I once got a sign to protect my fish pond in NJ. I didn't have a hidden video camera, but vandals didn't know that.
We recently went to the tower and saw the latest "artwork". They painted huge faces and colors all over the thing. This is worst I've seen. ( I will admit I wrote my initials up on the top in corner back in the 80's.) At this point I'm wondering how to get rid of the offending spray paint? Paint the entire tower? |
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Fools Names....
I remember hiking frequently up to the tower back in the late 1950s & 60s with my Mom from our cottage near Wawbeek. Back in those days all of the graffiti was done with pocket knives (spray paint probably didn't exist then). Every time we went, my Mom would always say "Fools' names and fools' faces always appear in public places". Needless to say....our names were never carved up there!
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The bridge at Long Island is now under consideration for clean-up by the NHDOT. It's not a high priority, as it doesn't contribute to a bridge being unsafe.
Also, according to the bridge maintenance engineer, unless there is an enforcement component, sometimes a clean surface is an invitation for new artwork.
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Inner city has been here for years.
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