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Old 03-29-2014, 09:08 AM   #1
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Default Mooring installation

Hi, Can anyone recommend a good mooring installation company? I got a permit this winter and need to get someone to install one this spring.

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Old 03-29-2014, 10:37 AM   #2
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Default Depends on location

Where are you located. That answer will dictate choices.

If in the Minge Cove area, I'd suggest looking into Winnipesaukee Marine Construction.
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Old 03-29-2014, 01:08 PM   #3
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Diversified Marine, best prices and service on the lake.
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Old 03-29-2014, 01:19 PM   #4
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Could you just put it on the ice right where you want it, to sink when it thaws?
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Old 03-29-2014, 04:20 PM   #5
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Default Mooring installation

Installing a mooring can provoke a lot of responses, some very helpful, some not so. My suggestion is that you become knowledgeable about how a mooring system should be harnessed up, then talk with local installers and find one you can work with for what you want. I suggest you go to someplace on the internet like "Taylor Mooring Systems" and read up on their methods, particularly their "Sur Moor". This will give you a better handle on a safe way to moor a boat. Under NO circumstances take a financial shortcut, it is not worth the value of your boat.
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Old 03-30-2014, 07:10 AM   #6
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Where are you located. That answer will dictate choices.

If in the Minge Cove area, I'd suggest looking into Winnipesaukee Marine Construction.
I second this recommendation (i.e. Winnipesaukee Marine Construction). I had a two block mooring installed by them last summer on the Broads side of Rattlesnake and I found them to be very reasonable (even came back and moved the blocks free of charge when I realized that I had asked them to install it too close to the property line).
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Old 03-30-2014, 02:00 PM   #7
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John is the guy that Watermark recommends and refers people to. He is in Gilford. 603-630-1968. He takes care of my mooring and I find him to be very knowledgeable, polite, and friendly.

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Old 03-31-2014, 08:15 AM   #8
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I had 10 moorings installed by NeDock at Boulevard Commons in Laconia. I priced out with Watermark and they were more expensive. Everything was all stainless and installed in a very small area so attention to detail was critical.
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Old 03-31-2014, 08:45 AM   #9
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Could you just put it on the ice right where you want it, to sink when it thaws?
I hope you're kidding.

1. Mooring has a good chance to float away with ice as it breaks up.

2. Real hazard to snowmobiles, particularly at night.

3. Tough to get a cement truck or electric mixer on the ice. Have you ever hand mix a 1000 lbs of cement before.

3. Can't guarantee it will land right side up. Makes a difference if you want to replace parts, like chains, shackles, etc.

Have a professional do it.
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Old 03-31-2014, 11:56 AM   #10
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I hope you're kidding.

1. Mooring has a good chance to float away with ice as it breaks up.

2. Real hazard to snowmobiles, particularly at night.

3. Tough to get a cement truck or electric mixer on the ice. Have you ever hand mix a 1000 lbs of cement before.

3. Can't guarantee it will land right side up. Makes a difference if you want to replace parts, like chains, shackles, etc.

Have a professional do it.
It was kind of tongue in cheek, but a good idea EXCEPT for all the reasons you give!
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Old 03-31-2014, 01:00 PM   #11
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We had Diversified Marine do ours back in 2005. We used 2000 lb blocks and standard chain.

A few seasons back we had Central Marine Divers come out and do an inspection, which turned into a chain replacement. I wish I had gone stainless in the first place, but it was years ago and I didn't know any better. It is amazing how a chain can be full size up top and paper thin at the bottom. There is an example of this on the wall at the Moorings Bureau at the MP building in Belmont.
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Old 03-31-2014, 01:29 PM   #12
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Default How does one obtain a mooring permit in the first place

I know this is a bit off topic but how doeas one obtain a mooring permit in the first place. I have scoured the NH web-site and the Alton Bay web-site to no avail. Please help.
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Old 03-31-2014, 01:38 PM   #13
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Here is a link to the State of New Hampshire moorings program http://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/n...ngs/index.html . This site has the application and regulations that govern the installation and permitting of moorings. Sure-Line Moorings on Winnipesaukee specializes in the installation and maintenance of all moorings....their email is sureline.moorings@aol.com
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Hello all. Thank you for the help. In reference to the question about doing it over the winter on the ice, I did think of this as I thought of a lot of ways to DIY and each time I thought it through I realized there was a high % for error and would end up being a lot of work. In the end I am going to leave this one up to the experts. Thx again for all the help. Steve
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We had Diversified Marine do ours back in 2005. We used 2000 lb blocks and standard chain.

A few seasons back we had Central Marine Divers come out and do an inspection, which turned into a chain replacement. I wish I had gone stainless in the first place, but it was years ago and I didn't know any better. It is amazing how a chain can be full size up top and paper thin at the bottom. There is an example of this on the wall at the Moorings Bureau at the MP building in Belmont.
Yes, use stainless chain and stainless shackles that are underwater.

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Old 04-03-2014, 11:43 AM   #16
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Yes, use stainless chain and stainless shackles that are underwater.
For the eyelet that is embedded in the cement block definitely stainless. But stainless steel shackles and $25 each and chain at $20 a foot I would stay with galvanized for that portion.
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Default Mooring installation

The choice between stainless chain or galvanized chain can be determined by several factors. First, and most obvious, your personal tolerance factor for something to go wrong and your boat floats away; second, your ability to keep watch on your mooring hardware (depth of water, etc) and monitor the corrosion/deterioration of the chain; and third, not at all insignificant, the relative cost difference based on depth and necessary hardware.

Personally, I had zero tolerance for my boat floating away, and, even though the water depth was modest, I decided to spend the money to (at least) feel safe about my boat when I wasn't home to watch it.

Good luck. Remember, it's your boat.
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some stainless hardware and chain is softer then galvi ...so even though the chain is still shiny, watch for wear

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Stainless steel chain is far from a forever solution for Winnipesaukee. The acidity of the lake water will disintegrate the chain, it just takes a little longer. There was a discussion here some years back that incuded several pics of stainless steel chain after some years in Winni.
Here's a link

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/...ss+steel+chain

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Old 04-04-2014, 11:23 AM   #20
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....not a place to get cheap and skimp. The SS is worth the extra money.

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