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Evening All
Just a question about towing What services do Sea Tow and BoatUS offer sailboats on Winni I had towing insurance when I had my power boat but now that I have a small 14' sailboat Im not sure what services Seatow and BoatUS would offer If anybody has had any experience with this please post Thanks and take care mike PS I know they are not going to tow me if the wind quits |
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Waving your arms or waving a paddle will almost always bring a passing motor boat to provide assistance like a tow back to your home dock or assistance with up-righting a roll over. For a 14' sailboat Lake Winnipesaukee is honestly one big happy helpful group of boaters who are quick to provide boater help without the need for a commercial tow boat.
You just wave a paddle at the motorboats and very quickly there will be two or three that stop to ask if you need any help ...... like, what's up here! .... you need some help?
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Hey 8gv and fatlazyless
Thanks for the responses Makes me feel good about boating on Winni Thanks again and take care mike |
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This is what I used for my 14' Mistral, and have carried it over to my sunfish for "towing" on the Broads. Small to stay out of the way (on the sunfish I bungie it to the mast) but can expand to get the leverage I need. My rule is always get back to shore before 6pm on a good sailing day or you will be stranded because the wind will die and then you have to paddle. |
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Always check the weather before you go out, stay out of the Broads as suggested above, and you're not going to be that far from home anyway |
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Hey Flying Scot and Cam Guy
Thanks for the responses I have an American Sail 14.6 . I do have a small collapsible paddle up in bow storage and a small Minkota trolling motor . I will be doing most of my sailing in the Winter Harbor area . So it sounds as if Im all set My previous boats were a 4 Winns and a Robalo 160 . I had all the bases covered with those boats . Just was not sure if there was something I was missing with a sailboat Thanks again for your advice and if you have any other ideas just shout Thanks again mike |
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Some years ago I towed a motorboat with my sailboat. Dropped sail and motored. There's help whenever you need it.
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Same here... spotted a few sailboats paddling in dead calm... happy to assist and tow them home.
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Hey Chase and Steve
Thanks for the responses . Makes me feel really comfortable about sailing on Winni Take care mike |
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Waving a paddle is fine, but some days, even in a 14' boat you want to sail when the power boats don't want to bounce their bottoms off. A handheld VHF or at least a cell phone is good. For most boats like yours, not much can go wrong, but you could take on water for a variety of reasons, and still not sink. A rescue with a big pump is needed, not a passing motorboat. Breaking a stay might limit the amount of sail you want to use, so a friendly tow is good. Many years ago I was tasked to tow a 14' sailboat from Melvin Village to the Weirs. We thought that would be quicker/easier than trailer. Wrong. The centerboard cable broke so we could not raise the board. Towing was at less than headway speed because every time we moved forward the board grabbed and sent the boat skittering off in an unpredictable direction.
If you are member of Boat/US, you get some limited towing which can be upgraded (probably not needed) as well as other benefits and a pretty good magazine. Don't know the price--they have my credit card and it has been on auto renew for years. |
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I cannot imagine towing a 14' boat across the Broads. One other thing to consider is preparing for a capsize. I have not flipped mine, and I do not intend to practice, but I've run through it in my head many times. I also bought a stern ladder so that I will be able to get back into boat if I do go over |
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Hey Descant and Flyingscot
Enjoyed your responses I do have a Minkota 30# trolling motor and plan on buying a 50 AH LiFepo4 Lithium battery that should give me about 3.5 hrs run time at speed 2 +or- . The boat weighs about 360# the battery only weighs about 13 so I should be able to cover a lot of distance if I get in trouble Just a thought |
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Please do not talk to me about battery powered anything right now. i bought a weird name garden tool-Earthwise- and now cannot get a battery for it. I hope I never ever have to have a battery car or boat.
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Some 14' sailboats that have a thinner waist than the wide six foot beam on the American Sail 14.6 come equipped with two oarlocks and can be rowed pretty good by one rower. Rowing a 6'x14'6" sailboat weighing 360-lbs with one rower will not go too good except for very short rows. Probably, it could get rowed pretty well by two rowers, one on each oar, or by four rowers on four oars.
So, a very small outboard, either gas or propane or battery is very useful or you can always just wave down some passing motorboat for a tow back home when there's no wind. Most all motorboats automatically become very helpful when they see a sailboat waving for help, and if they ain't got the time to help, they just motor on by. You know there's always another motorboat, out there, looking for something to do.
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FLL's basic point about oars as a substitute for a motor on certain boats is also good--much more effective than a paddle. Other motor uses-- Your direction of launching and landing from/to a dock may vary based on wind direction--you want to be downwind from the dock. Depending on your dock configuration, etc, you may find in convenient to be able to motor from one side to the other While learning, you may find it intimidating to land in certain conditions. When you're a noob, it's always easier to drop sail and motor in. Going to and from the boat ramp |
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FlyingScot makes an excellent point about getting to a dock (even someone else's) in event of bad weather. For years and years, I lived on Winter Harbor, and numerous times people pulled into my dock for safety-sake, and for directions. I think the boating community is particularly helpful when the circumstances turn bad. If you are boating, and you need help, just get to shore somewhere, and I am sure there will be help available.
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Hey FS and Campy
When I had my 4 Winns and Robalo I came out of Back Bay . I covered this end of the lake a lot Wolfeboro , Alton , Winter Harbor , Carey Beach , etc so I feel comfortable at this end of the lake . I dont foresee being out on the lake in bad weather , there are just too many apps and weather reports you can follow so you can stay out of trouble The app Im using presently is windy:app. ,, its on the phone to check wind and wave conditions on the lake. Does anybody have any good info on LifePo4 lithium batteries . As mentioned above I am looking for a 50 AH. Amazon has a rather large selection from $110 to $170 . Not sure about what brand . The nice thing about them is they only weigh 12# + or - FS hope to see you on the lake , looked up your boat , nice . |
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Good Evening All
Had a great conversation with Capt Pete of BOATUS the other day. He mentioned that if my sailboat did indeed get becalmed by no wind he would tow me in. Thats a nice benefit of membership . Of course I pick my sailing days with wind , have my Minkota trolling motor as a back up , but things happen . With that said Im signing up in the spring . BOATUS See ya all on the lake mike |
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Sign up now and get three more months of benefits, maybe save on insurance, discount on some Boat Show tickets. Maybe you'll rent a boat this winter? (I have no stake in this, but I think it's a good deal.
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If you have to get going, just pull out this handy-dandy gizmo: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256801973618946.html In gray skies, I ventured to Middle Ground Shoals. Far in the distance, the lake's surface had taken-on a very dark line. I wheeled around, and headed for home base. Speed picked up, and I was on an unaccustomed plane, with the sail straining, and the bow threatening to "stuff". I sailed close to the shoreline to cut down some of the wind. Finally, not able to control the boat any longer, I got to my neighbor's dock and turned for the shallows. So here I am, crouching in two feet of water--with my own dock 100-feet too far! ![]() Gripping the bow handle firmly, I awaited the end of this mayhem before me. ![]() ![]() I climbed out of Lake Winnipesaukee to watch Winter Harbor turn entirely white. ![]() My boat had fortunately been blown parallel to my dock--with the mast, sail, and spars making an improvised cushion between boat and dock. Just the sail and mast required repair--which was improvised--and a story for another time. ![]() |
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Yes but I have seen you sail in almost no wind without that "gizmo".
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Between 1909 and 1975, my family operated Camp Wyanoke for Boys in Winter Harbor. Sailing in Winter Harbor was one of our most popular, and frequent (daily) activities, and weather was always a concern. Wyanoke was very fortunate to have excellent neighbors in Winter Harbor, and my Dad used to visit these neighbors to make sure the relationship stayed friendly. On more than one occasion, the weather changed almost instantly, and our sailors were forced to see refuge at a neighbor's dock for safety sake. Neighbors who are boaters make great neighbors. One of my Dad's favorite sayings was "Be alert for a weather change". How true.
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