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Old 05-12-2020, 06:17 AM   #1
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Looking to get some opinions on a quote I received recently from a marina on Winni.

Got a quote to do the following:

1) Replace sterndrive pump impeller.
2) Replace sterndrive bellows.
3) Replace anodes.
4) Sand, prime and paint some areas of corrosion down near the skeg.

Sterndrive is Volvo Penta DPS-B 2.32 and is on the boat.

Quote is $800. I don't have a real good feel for this so any experienced opinions would be appreciated.

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Old 05-12-2020, 07:06 AM   #2
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Looking to get some opinions on a quote I received recently from a marina on Winni.

Got a quote to do the following:

1) Replace sterndrive pump impeller.
2) Replace sterndrive bellows.
3) Replace anodes.
4) Sand, prime and paint some areas of corrosion down near the skeg.

Sterndrive is Volvo Penta DPS-B 2.32 and is on the boat.

Quote is $800. I don't have a real good feel for this so any experienced opinions would be appreciated.

Thanks
Bob

Price seems low to me, maybe Mercrusier Bellows are more difficult than Volvo Penta. Just make sure your comfortable with the Marina doing the work.

May be some other maintenance items to address with the drive pulled like the Gimbal Bearing. Again, I'm not familiar with Volvo but while it's apart do it all.
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Old 05-12-2020, 08:20 AM   #3
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Do you have to replace the bellows every two years (recommended by the manufacturer) if you have a in and out service?
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Sounds mostly routine, and reasonable price.. I'm aware of a boat that sunk in its slip because they didn't replace the bellows. Slow leak and the auto bilge pump kept up as long as the boat was being used and the battery charged. When use stopped for a few weeks, the battery went down and so did the boat. On fresh water, a lot of boats don't even have anodes. Is yours heavily worn because of salt water use? Some other factor?
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Most freshwater boats use anodes made from magnesium, not zinc. Galvanic corrosion occurs in fresh water as well as salt water. Stray electrical current from docks can also accelerate the corrosion.

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Thanks for the clarification. When I asked the service manager about this a few years ago, he shrugged a little and said some people do, some people don't. We put it on the recommend list. If my dock did not have power, or on a trailer or valet, anodes, if you have them, should last longer than most other fixtures on the boat. So, the OP may or may not choose to replace depending on his boat's history. I have no idea, just bringing up the question.
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Price seems low to me, maybe Mercrusier Bellows are more difficult than Volvo Penta. Just make sure your comfortable with the Marina doing the work.

May be some other maintenance items to address with the drive pulled like the Gimbal Bearing. Again, I'm not familiar with Volvo but while it's apart do it all.
Thanks for all the replies. I've done this work before and I do believe Merc bellows are more difficult. My current issue is I've developed some rotator cuff issues and don't feel comfortable doing the work at this time.
The boat is a 2012 Cobalt 210 that i bought in 2017 and I don't have any prior service history on it. It was in pretty good shape when I bought it so I've held off on service. I just think it's time to take care of the more common issues that could cause disasters as Descant described.
I'll also have other items checked while drive is off.
Thanks again everyone,
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Sounds mostly routine, and reasonable price.. I'm aware of a boat that sunk in its slip because they didn't replace the bellows. Slow leak and the auto bilge pump kept up as long as the boat was being used and the battery charged. When use stopped for a few weeks, the battery went down and so did the boat. On fresh water, a lot of boats don't even have anodes. Is yours heavily worn because of salt water use? Some other factor?
They are quite worn and could be the reason for the corrosion I'm seeing near the skeg and on the rod ends of the trim cylinders. No salt but it's always in the water, slipped in a mostly stagnant area (the basin off Winter Harbor). This also gives me a lot of headache cleaning the hull every fall but can't beat the price I'm paying for the slip so it is what it is. New anodes are cheap insurance anyway.
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They are quite worn and could be the reason for the corrosion I'm seeing near the skeg and on the rod ends of the trim cylinders. No salt but it's always in the water, slipped in a mostly stagnant area (the basin off Winter Harbor). This also gives me a lot of headache cleaning the hull every fall but can't beat the price I'm paying for the slip so it is what it is. New anodes are cheap insurance anyway.
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A couple of years back, my boat needed the gimbal replaced. In the spirit of "while you're at it", along with the gimbal, replaced the bellows, the impeller, and the 3 (I think) anodes on my Mercury Alpha drive. I can't lay my hands on the receipt, but I think we paid around $1000-1200. Might have had one or two other minor things done at the same time.

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The impeller on a Volvo is not located in the stern drive rather is mounted off the crank pully of the engine.

Replacing one is far simpler and requires less time and disassembly as a Merc where the stern drive has to be drained and split.
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The impeller on a Volvo is not located in the stern drive rather is mounted off the crank pully of the engine.

Replacing one is far simpler and requires less time and disassembly as a Merc where the stern drive has to be drained and split.
To clarify, Merc Bravo Drives are also engine driven. Alphas require splitting the drive. When doing a Bravo, I like to replace the assembly as a kit, not just the impeller.
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The impeller on a Volvo is not located in the stern drive rather is mounted off the crank pully of the engine.

Replacing one is far simpler and requires less time and disassembly as a Merc where the stern drive has to be drained and split.
Looked at it yesterday. Looks easy enough. I think I may tackle that and anodes in my crippled state and leave the bellows to the marina.
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Looking to get some opinions on a quote I received recently from a marina on Winni.

Got a quote to do the following:

1) Replace sterndrive pump impeller.
2) Replace sterndrive bellows.
3) Replace anodes.
4) Sand, prime and paint some areas of corrosion down near the skeg.

Sterndrive is Volvo Penta DPS-B 2.32 and is on the boat.

Quote is $800. I don't have a real good feel for this so any experienced opinions would be appreciated.

Thanks
Bob
Lets see. I have a 09 Volvo 8.1 liter, 375 HP, replaced anodes fall 19, cost online for parts $50.00 very easy to install yourself to save labor but probably 1 hour labor and if marina purchases parts they will mark up. Replaced impeller spring of 19, parts and labor $193.08. my outdrive has 2 bellows, one for exhaust and one for universal joint. Replaced u-joint bellows in 2017, parts $62.35, will charge at least an hour of labor for at least $120 per hour (depends on marina labor rate) Double it if you are replacing both bellows. I also had outdrive repair completed fall of 19 after scraping some rocks, scrapes were filed, sanded, painted. Prop blade filed, that was $322.00. So I would say $800.00 is in the ball park. But be sure whoever is doing work is reputable and you trust them.

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