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Old 05-07-2019, 06:44 AM   #1
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Do we get the Mail Boat back this year?
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Old 05-07-2019, 07:47 AM   #2
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In late March, we drove through Center Harbor on our home from a visit in the area. We stopped to check on the Mount in her winter berth. On the marine way next to her rested the Sophie C. Her upper structure was covered, but her bare bottom was visible, and without paint. Would be surprised if we see her delivering mail to East Bear Island this season. 🐻
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Had to run to the hardware store in Center Harbor this past weekend, by boat of course, and yeah the Sophie C is still out of the water. I didn't go over to take a look to see if there was any activity.
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I was just told by the owner that the Doris E. will again fill in on the mail run this year (2019) while they decide what to do about the extensive work needed to get the Sophie C. back into service.

Here she is in better days:

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Thatís terrible news. She is a big part of the lake and lake history.

Did it just sit in dry dock last year ? I thought they were working on it or while repairing did they find additional issues?


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A curiosity question; Does USPS Postage Stamp Revenue pay for the maintenance and operation of the Sophie C ?
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A curiosity question; Does USPS Postage Stamp Revenue pay for the maintenance and operation of the Sophie C ?
No is the short answer.
The Post Office does not own any boats.

in this situation the moving of the mail is a contract with a private transportation company. The maintenance of said vehicles is the responsibility of the private contractor. Anyone can bid on the contract. Go for it !
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If they set up a go-fund me page that includes a mailing address for mailing a check, probably a lot of different people could mail them small checks like 10-20-25 dollars ..... just to help out?

Wouldn't you mail in ten dollars to help repair and fix the leaky steel hull on the 70' long, 70+ year old, World War II era, Sophie C, mail and cruise boat?

Probably, just needs a sheet of pressure treated plywood and a gallon of Bondo, and it is good to go!
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I'd donate. I hate to see a bit of nostalgia gone forever.
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If they set up a go-fund me page that includes a mailing address for mailing a check, probably a lot of different people could mail them small checks like 10-20-25 dollars ..... just to help out?

Wouldn't you mail in ten dollars to help repair and fix the leaky steel hull on the 70' long, 70+ year old, World War II era, Sophie C, mail and cruise boat?

Probably, just needs a sheet of pressure treated plywood and a gallon of Bondo, and it is good to go!
Nah about 30,000 rattle cans of flex seal. Fixes that pesky leaking floor made of a screen door so it would fix ANYTHING!

It's on TV and the Internet so it has to be true.
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I'd donate. I hate to see a bit of nostalgia gone forever.
Agreed. But I wonder if there is enough market at the Weirs. There used to be, in addition to the Sophie C , 8 Miss Winnipesaukee speedboats, the Uncle Sam(s), several "Foxy" boats and rental boats. As each of these aged out, the market wasn't there to make replacement worthwhile. So many people now own their own boats, a scenic tour isn't as unique as it once was.
On the other hand, recall the Sophie's original mission was to shuttle from the Weirs to Wolfeboro before the Mount's engines were replaced after the war. I wonder if there is a market for a shuttle from Meredith to Wolfeboro? Meredith and Wolfeboro are now the leading destinations, are they not?
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A curiosity question; Does USPS Postage Stamp Revenue pay for the maintenance and operation of the Sophie C ?
Well, sort of. Postage pays for the delivery contract and out of that the contractor has to pay maintenance.


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Does anyone have any details on exactly what they are finding wrong with the M/V Sophie C.
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Does anyone have any details on exactly what they are finding wrong with the M/V Sophie C.
Found the answer to my own question:

https://cruisenh.com/blogs/news/what...h-the-sophie-c
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A curiosity question; Does USPS Postage Stamp Revenue pay for the maintenance and operation of the Sophie C ?
The short and long answer.

Sophie C is a "for profit" vessel, same as the MS Mount Washington. Both charge passengers to board and ride.

The difference is that Sophie C also contracts with the USPS (They get paid to deliver mail). So their model is a 2 hour cruise that customers pay for ($28 PP), plus they get federal monies for delivering mail to a few people along the way.
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Do they get additional funding because they are a US post office?


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No it is a contract with the USPS that they have to bid for each time the contract expires. So they receive just the contract price and no additional fund. I am also sure they are the only company bidding on the contract.


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Is there enough mail being delivered on the lake where a boat that size is required?

Also, the cost to repair the hull....fair to say it ends up a 6-figure proposition?

As far as hull integrity, what would be used in order to obtain the condition of the hull? Is this a density measurement technology being used or some other method?


I find it is such a curious thing to see that boat dry docked however it has definitely sparked wonder and a few great conversations with my daughter.
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Is there enough mail being delivered on the lake where a boat that size is required?

Also, the cost to repair the hull....fair to say it ends up a 6-figure proposition?

As far as hull integrity, what would be used in order to obtain the condition of the hull? Is this a density measurement technology being used or some other method?


I find it is such a curious thing to see that boat dry docked however it has definitely sparked wonder and a few great conversations with my daughter.
Remember the USPS contract is not the only source of revenue for the Sophie C. I do not know the percentages but at 28.00 per person the passenger fees bring in significant revenue in season and mail is also only delivered in season. I am sure the route makes some money otherwise it would not have been delivering mail for the past 73 years.

Usually sound, heat and stress tests are typically used to measure the density of a steel hull for integrity.
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....apparently ..... look'n at the photo .... all the old paint probably got sand blasted off ..... looks just like a ship repair yard in Louisiana or someplace.

Will the Sophe C get sold off for junk steel or will it be up and doing the mail, again?
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This makes me very sad. I always love the Sophie C !!!!!
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Do we get the Mail Boat back this year?
Yes you will.

LACONIA ó On June 15, the M/V Doris E. will begin delivering mail to many islands on the big lake. This will mark the 128th year of continuous mail service on Lake Winnipesaukee.

https://www.laconiadailysun.com/comm...cf45be132.html
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LACONIA ó On June 15, the M/V Doris E. will begin delivering mail to many islands on the big lake. This will mark the 128th year of continuous mail service on Lake Winnipesaukee.

https://www.laconiadailysun.com/comm...cf45be132.html
This article doesn't even mention the Sophie C. I think the news isn't that a 128 tradition continues, but that it seems a tradition has been discontinued...R.I.P. Sophie C?
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I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that the Sophie C. is on its way to Davey Jone's locker. Repairing the hull is likely to be a major undertaking, and the company needs to find the right contractor to bid on the work. Probably not an easy task, especially where the boat is so far inland.

When they pulled her on the dry dock and stripped the paint, I figured something long term was about to happen. I would expect that by the end of this season, the fate of the Sophie C. will be known. If she is to get back into the water, it might still be another year or two.....
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This article doesn't even mention the Sophie C. I think the news isn't that a 128 tradition continues, but that it seems a tradition has been discontinued...R.I.P. Sophie C?
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I like the new canopy on the Doris. My wife took the kids out on the Sophie years ago and I passed because I dont like that much sun. With the new canopy you can still enjoy the ride from on top but you get some shade. If you like sun you can sit in the bow. Nice upgrade.
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SAVE the Sophie C.!!!

We need to keep supporting the effort to repair her and bring her back to the lake!!
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