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Old 11-26-2021, 12:31 PM   #1
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Exclamation Variants, two years in the making

FAR FROM OVER, for New Hampshire and the world. Veriants bring down the effectiveness of the vaccine for the Original Pandemic Covid-19.

They are brought here for one reason by Non Compliance To Get Protected by being Vaccinated.

Not getting better, Here or ElseWare.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/w...frica-rcna6782

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...edgdhp&pc=U531

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Covid is NEVER going away! This is endemic now. Vaxxed or unvaxxed this virus will continue to mutate. The virus is doing precisely what it was designed to do infect & mutate rapidly.

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All viruses mutate with enough hosts available... and transmission really isn't the problem.
The cold virus transmits rather easily, but has low virulence.

A virus with high virulence and low transmission would kill the host, before it found another; thus leading to its own extinction.
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All viruses mutate with enough hosts available... and transmission really isn't the problem.
The cold virus transmits rather easily, but has low virulence.

A virus with high virulence and low transmission would kill the host, before it found another; thus leading to its own extinction.
I agree that all viruses mutate... however Covid is a a gain of function virus that has been engineered to mutate quickly, far faster than would normally occur. As such, it will never be contained, it will continue to mutate and will never go away.

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I agree that all viruses mutate... however Covid is a a gain of function virus that has been engineered to mutate quickly, far faster than would normally occur. As such, it will never be contained, it will continue to mutate and will never go away.

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Faster mutation would mean that it would not need to be contained.
The various parts of the cold virus mutate so fast, that even a short term vaccine would have little to no effect and thus be useless.

The perfect variant will transmit easily, and have little to no virulence. It took the Common Cold a long time to reach that stage through natural mutation.
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Faster mutation would mean that it would not need to be contained.
The various parts of the cold virus mutate so fast, that even a short term vaccine would have little to no effect and thus be useless.

The perfect variant will transmit easily, and have little to no virulence. It took the Common Cold a long time to reach that stage through natural mutation.
Perfect variant? Gain-of-function (GOF) research involves experimentation that aims to increase the transmissibility and/or virulence of pathogens. One really cannot compare this virus to the common cold or the as some people like to do the flu. They are naturally occurring and have not been engineered to mutate in certain ways...

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Correct. But gain-of-function only works in the original developed in the lab.
The mutations are outside of lab control... and natural mutations that develop outside of the lab work on the same basis as nature.

Killing the host too quickly (high virulence) or creating symptomatic response (relatively high virulence) results in limited transfer to another host.

High transmission, but low virulence is the natural superior outcome. And in a high mutation environment that strain will win out. Thus the Common Cold that had mutated for tens of thousands of years has reached the zenith.

If this thing can mutate really fast, it will go towards the same effect as the common cold. But I doubt it can mutate faster than flu.

SARS-CoV had about the same transmission rate (Rsub0 around 2.4/2.5) but showed a higher virulence... about 70 percent of confirmed cases needed hospitalization compared to the maximum 20 percent of SARS-CoV2 (the original format). The variants of SARS-CoV2 are spreading while vaccination is occurring so the data is more skewed (as it would only be fair to compare the results of non-vaccinated patients to the original format), but seem to be showing a higher rate of transmission (more contagious) but it is not scientifically verified that they have a higher level of virulence.

The concern seems to be that the faster those that are not vaccinated are infected, the more hospital overload and damage to the economy occurs in a short spike.
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