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08-06-2008, 06:13 AM | #101 |
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In this case, I expose your double standard with previous posts.
The facts are clear with the summer skimmer. The facts have not been made public with the Blizzard accident. Once they are out there, I can and will have my opinion. At that point, you can decide if several of us of have that double standard you've accused us of having. Until that point, your accusations are baseless and insulting. I call the kid and his actions moronic. You like to refer to them as 'something disagreeable on the lake'. You say potahhto.. If my use of the term moron offends you, I can only suggest that filter again, as you won't convince me that his actions were anything other than moronic. If my teen pulled a stunt like that, her only means of transportation would be those two things known as feet at the bottom of her legs, and those would be handcuffed together, for good measure. |
08-06-2008, 08:36 AM | #103 | |
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LOL everyone does. I've quietly read through the thread and see that everyone had their minds channeled differently. The skimming incident points to daredevil stupidity. These aren't controlled events that have a high likelihood of succeeding, they have a high rate of failure. Yes, it is illegal. This article points to the main problem. http://www.freelists.org/archives/ka.../msg00034.html I'd have to say, people doing that on a lake, especially where they did it, are pretty much on their own. It's not a good analogy to use the boating accident. Boats belong on the lake, and it's not illegal, or inherently dangerous. Perhaps the conditions were such that she screwed up, possibly something else contributed to the mishap. We'll know soon. It's had a tremendous impact on families and friends, as any accident and fatality does. That doesn't change. People's feelings towards the operator do change depending on the circumstances, which is fair. If some moron drives into a rock ledge at 100mph on the highway and is drunk beyond sane, my sympathies lie with the survivors, not the operator. If someone rides a snow machine in the lake, tries to turn and sinks and drowns, same answer. There are many tragedies everyday, some are simply accidents and can't be avoided, others involve decisions that were misjudgments that failed despite good intentions. Still others are avoidable, and involve stupid decisions, with the full intent of being reckless and careless, whether it be for the thrill of it or just because. These can only be prevented by the operator, not society. There's only so much sincere sympathy out there, and it shouldn't be reserved for stupid. |
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08-06-2008, 12:06 PM | #104 |
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Let's get back on track!
The last few post are moving away from the original Qusetion. How dumb is dumb?
Most post are negelcting the fact that there were 2 individuels that attempted this "STUNT". We have gone from the 150' rule. No-Wake Zone and now to the boating "ACCIDENT" off of Diamond. May be it is time to close this thread? |
08-06-2008, 12:20 PM | #105 | |
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There were two individuals that attempted this "stunt". If you have more explanations to add regarding the dumbness factor, maybe we won't have to close this thread. |
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08-06-2008, 12:31 PM | #106 |
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There is more out there?
If you have not got your fill of this topic there is another Thread on the General Forum covering this.
http://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/...8118#post78118 Enjoy! Last edited by WINNOCTURN; 08-06-2008 at 01:24 PM. |
08-26-2008, 11:34 PM | #107 |
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What I dont get is how these kids can even be compared to the people on that boat. They didnt kill anybody, 1. They werent intoxicated, 2. Lastely, they put others in far less danger than those girls did. What is wrong with people even comparing the 2 situations. Get a clue!
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09-15-2008, 10:16 PM | #108 |
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In related news, for those that would like to see this for themselves, check out Top Gear on BBC America on Saturday at 4 PM. It was on tonight (actually a rerun from 2005 in Britain, but new to here). They raced a snowmobile against a Jeep across a lake.
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10-01-2008, 07:37 AM | #109 |
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charge dropped
guess you really have to choose your words wisely (Today's Citizen)
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Looks like justice was served. He was busted for driving a snowmobile over open water. Charges for reckless conduct were dropped. The first charge implies the second, so there was no cause for the second charge. It looks like he got away with speeding in a no-wake zone though. He paid his fool-fee and has stories to tell. Another lake legand is written, and nobody was hurt.
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10-01-2008, 09:18 AM | #111 | |
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A stunt that will be fun to talk about by him and friends/family for years to come. A bit foolish, yes. But, no harm done. As I have said before...thru the years, different generations do different things. Time was when it was "cool" to jump off the Weirs Bridge, or jump the Mount's wake. Foolish things, but great stories/memories. |
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Doubt he'll be laughing when he receives Sisti's bill... Quote:
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Good for Mr Miller. Wish I got to see it...no harm except to him
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10-01-2008, 03:43 PM | #114 |
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Sisti
I'm looking at this name all day..."Sisti"...and thinking, "why do I know this name?"
I believe this is the guy who defended Pam Smart when she had her husband killed back in the early 90's. Little piece of useless information for everyone... |
10-01-2008, 03:51 PM | #115 |
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Some people I know judge a persons guilt by whether they use that lawyer or not... of course, I am just kidding
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10-01-2008, 05:31 PM | #116 |
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He also defended Dan Littlefield in the fatal a few years ago.
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To bring this post a little closer to the Lake, Mark Sisti, as in, the Littlefield trial.
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10-02-2008, 11:16 AM | #119 |
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Fisrt skimmer gets charges dropped
The first skimmer got some of his charges dropped. John Miller was the first of two that day to take a chance and give it a go, both were unsuccessfull. miller got marine wreckless conduct dropped and was charged only with fish and game violations.
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10-08-2008, 11:37 AM | #120 |
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Miller gets charges dropped
John Miller got charges Dropped. I say good for him. What does everyone else think.
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If he was facing jail time, good for him. That stunt did not deserve jail time. If he was only facing fines, well, he was probably better off getting the lawyer in the long run, but I bet the legal fees exceed the fines. If I were the judge, I think some sort of embarassing community service would have been in order. |
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