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Old 07-13-2022, 11:44 AM   #1
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Default **NEW Restaurant** Birch & Vine, Tuftonboro

A new restaurant will be opening in Melvin Village (Tuftonboro) on Friday, July 15 at 4:00 pm.

It will be called Birch & Vine and run by Patti (former Manager of O Bistro in Wolfeboro).

For those of you wondering where this is, the location used to be called "Pine Cone" and is located on Route 109 in Melvin Village.

I believe they have the only liquor pour license in Tuftonboro and I think they will be very successful in their new venture.
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I was wondering what was happening there—we passed by the other day, and there was no sign up.

Any idea what the menu will look like? The name implies higher-end, but I'm wondering if that area can sustain something like that.

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Patti is amazing. This place is bound to be great.
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Too bad they choose to take it upscale. The old Pine Cone was loved by so many locals. Now it's just another expensive restaurant just like all the others.
Rest in Peace Pine Cone. You will be sorely missed.
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is it walkable from the Town Docks? Not that I've actually docked over there, but I'm always looking for other locations to take the boat
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is it walkable from the Town Docks? Not that I've actually docked over there, but I'm always looking for other locations to take the boat
If you're talking about the docks at Lake Road, it's ~12 minutes or 3/4 mile walk.

I'm not sure how many available docks are here, though, or if there's a time limit.

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Have you seen a menu, knowit?
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Too bad they choose to take it upscale. The old Pine Cone was loved by so many locals. Now it's just another expensive restaurant just like all the others.
Rest in Peace Pine Cone. You will be sorely missed.
I loved the Pine Cone, both the restaurant and the store, and I'm really sore they have closed the store. But we do not know that they have taken the restaurant upscale or that it will be less loved by locals. Plus, it's going to be a LONG winter for the new owners if they are not focused on locals in a place that gets no tourists. Nobody's driving past Wolfeboro or Moultonborough to get to dinner in T'boro...

Let's give the new guys a chance
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If you're talking about the docks at Lake Road, it's ~12 minutes or 3/4 mile walk.

I'm not sure how many available docks are here, though, or if there's a time limit.

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There is almost certainly dock space available. But even trickier than the long walk, much of it without a sidewalk on 109, would be Melvin Bay's many shallow areas that are not well marked. Do not try this at night
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pine cone was great the way it was. great food and drinks. hope it doesnt get all stuffy
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is it walkable from the Town Docks? Not that I've actually docked over there, but I'm always looking for other locations to take the boat
They have a Facebook and Instagram account- pretty sure I read that they were going to offer a shuttle service from the town docks in Melvin Village (by the Church) and 19 Mile Bay town docks.
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It looks very nice inside, the decor is more upscale, lighter, etc. The food they served for their meet and greet was artfully done and completely different than Pine Cone Cafe menus.

I think it will be a successful place, as the new owner has her team from O'Bistro there and they work well together. Wish them well.
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They have a Facebook and Instagram account- pretty sure I read that they were going to offer a shuttle service from the town docks in Melvin Village (by the Church) and 19 Mile Bay town docks.
Shuttle service would be good. I can't say i have docked anywhere around Melvin Village but am always willing to find new places.
I am probably one of very few people that don't have Facebook or Instagram, so thank you for the info.
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It looks nice, but very few tables now? Maybe because of the outdoor dining? Or did they put tables in the store area?
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Honestly, that just looks like every other restaurant in the area now. I really loved how the Pine Cone was old-fashioned country-store NH as there aren't many places left like that.

*sigh*

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Honestly, that just looks like every other restaurant in the area now. I really loved how the Pine Cone was old-fashioned country-store NH as there aren't many places left like that.

*sigh*

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It's really too bad she felt the need to go all fine dining and crap. This is NOT downtown Wolfeboro. A smart business owner would research their demographics and cater a restaurant to that. She has completely alienated all the folks that kept the Pine Cone as it was successful for 19 years.
Unfortunately this whole area is becoming the Lake Tahoe of the east.
PS I really liked O Bistro, but I would only go there couples times a year as it was pricey. I was at the Cone much more than that.
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It's really too bad she felt the need to go all fine dining and crap. This is NOT downtown Wolfeboro. A smart business owner would research their demographics and cater a restaurant to that. She has completely alienated all the folks that kept the Pine Cone as it was successful for 19 years.

Unfortunately this whole area is becoming the Lake Tahoe of the east.

PS I really liked O Bistro, but I would only go there couples times a year as it was pricey. I was at the Cone much more than that.
Though I lament the loss of the old-fashioned Pine Cone, I think it's far too early to condemn the new place.

Who knows, maybe she'll have fried mozzarella instead of mozzarella sticks, an Italian sampler instead of straight chicken parm, and bread pudding instead of a straight ice cream sundae? All that sounds delish to me!

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A new restaurant will be opening in Melvin Village (Tuftonboro) on Friday, July 15 at 4:00 pm.

It will be called Birch & Vine and run by Patti (former Manager of O Bistro in Wolfeboro).

For those of you wondering where this is, the location used to be called "Pine Cone" and is located on Route 109 in Melvin Village.

I believe they have the only liquor pour license in Tuftonboro and I think they will be very successful in their new venture.
I hope John, the the weekend bar tender is also joining Her.
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Who cares . If the people who want to go to pine cone its gone. If you dont want to go fine. Its a business if it doesnt work she will close
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Honestly, that just looks like every other restaurant in the area now. I really loved how the Pine Cone was old-fashioned country-store NH as there aren't many places left like that.

*sigh*

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The Pine Cone was certainly embraced by the local community and they did a nice job. My only criticism was they NEVER changed the menu once in the nearly 20 years they were open. Hopefully, the new folks can add some menu variety and make the place attractive to tourists and locals alike.
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The Pine Cone was certainly embraced by the local community and they did a nice job. My only criticism was they NEVER changed the menu once in the nearly 20 years they were open. Hopefully, the new folks can add some menu variety and make the place attractive to tourists and locals alike.
There's a restaurant in Dracut, MA called Mama's. It's a simple red-sauce Italian place that opened up in 1989. Since then, they haven't changed the decor or menu a bit. I no longer live in town but drive the 35 minutes every couple months to hit it up...and bask in the glory of the same meatball sub Mom and I shared on my first day of high school.

Ditto with Mario's in Lexington, MA; the Olympia in Lowell; Benedetti's in Haverhill; etc.

I would KILL to have any of those places in town.

There's enough natural change to always have newness while keeping some places holy.

Obviously, if the Pine Cone was failing, it's a different equation.

Good luck to the new owners—we'll certainly give them a go—but *sigh*.

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There's a restaurant in Dracut, MA called Mama's. It's a simple red-sauce Italian place that opened up in 1989. Since then, they haven't changed the decor or menu a bit. I no longer live in town but drive the 35 minutes every couple months to hit it up...and bask in the glory of the same meatball sub Mom and I shared on my first day of high school.

Ditto with Mario's in Lexington, MA; the Olympia in Lowell; Benedetti's in Haverhill; etc.

I would KILL to have any of those places in town.

There's enough natural change to always have newness while keeping some places holy.

Obviously, if the Pine Cone was failing, it's a different equation.

Good luck to the new owners—we'll certainly give them a go—but *sigh*.

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The initial reviews are in and they are very good !
Great to see a new semi upscale restaurant with reasonable prices take over .
The previous business went under so obviously that business model no longer worked and it was time for a change.
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The previous business went under so obviously that business model no longer worked and it was time for a change.
I am pretty sure the previous owners decided to retire is the reason it was sold, someone correct me if that is incorrect.
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I am pretty sure the previous owners decided to retire is the reason it was sold, someone correct me if that is incorrect.
You are correct, the Pine Cone Cafe did not go under and the business plan work quite well. The Pine View Lodge LLC owned the property which included the Restaurant, Gift Shop, Convenience Store as well as rental property.
It was sold to a local Investor who is leasing the Restaurant out.
The former owners have retired from the restaurant business after many successful years.
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You are correct, the Pine Cone Cafe did not go under and the business plan work quite well. The Pine View Lodge LLC owned the property which included the Restaurant, Gift Shop, Convenience Store as well as rental property.
It was sold to a local Investor who is leasing the Restaurant out.
The former owners have retired from the restaurant business after many successful years.
Thanks I hope Billy Bob will correct his post as the previous owners worked very hard for many years to have false info spread about their former business.
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My only complaint about the Pine Cone is that it was TOO successful! Regularly packed to the gills...45 minute wait for a table or a pizza to go...phone lines jammed...How is this possible in the middle of nowhere?

I'm excited to try the new place, but I don't think this should be some sort of competition or grudge match.
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Not every restaurant that changes hands and reopens is the same, or even that close.

Good lord people (a few of you).

*she brought much of the same staff from O Bistro, so she has a loyal group of employees
*she had hundreds show up in the first few days, so she has many loyal customers
*the new place is upscale, yes, but it’s much like O Bistro price-wise
*did you ever go in the Pine Cone bathrooms? Did you want to eat after that?

Yeah, Pine Cone was fine for what it was, but come on.

New owner is a great lady and is an employer. Wish her well. I just got back from a great meal.

You want a cheaper meal, go elsewhere. This is a great place, based on what I saw tonight. I really don’t know her well, but she is a gem. Sheesh.
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Not every restaurant that changes hands and reopens is the same, or even that close.

Good lord people (a few of you).

*she brought much of the same staff from O Bistro, so she has a loyal group of employees
*she had hundreds show up in the first few days, so she has many loyal customers
*the new place is upscale, yes, but it’s much like O Bistro price-wise
*did you ever go in the Pine Cone bathrooms? Did you want to eat after that?

Yeah, Pine Cone was fine for what it was, but come on.

New owner is a great lady and is an employer. Wish her well. I just got back from a great meal.

You want a cheaper meal, go elsewhere. This is a great place, based on what I saw tonight. I really don’t know her well, but she is a gem. Sheesh.
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Is this planned to be a seasonal or year round operation?

Any menu available online??

If its a year round offering then I think there is an argument for the more basic predictable previous menu and prices.

If however its seasonal, then I think there is plenty of business in the "season" to keep anywhere open that offers good food and good service at almost any price.

Either way, its always worth a try when any restaurant comes under new management. You never know what gem you will find, and if you dont like it, you just do go back.

Personally I terribly miss the old Sandy Point weekend brunch or boat up and pick up burgers and eat on the water. Same for the very old Dots,,, And dont even get me started on the old Baileys Restaurants "gritty" hot fudge on its ice cream,,, Its was THE Best!

As much as many of us wish to chain ourselves to the past, its a loosing battle. And sometimes there are pleasant surprises with change. Not too often, but sometimes. ;-)
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I had Sesame crusted ahi tuna. Came with a nice portion of jasmine rice (which was sticky rice…great!) It was really a tuna steak and it was cooked to perfection. Also had 2 Safe Space IPA’s. Wife also had the Tuna and had 2 glasses of wine. Bill was $84.

Sat at a 12 foot (?) high top which was a beautiful butternut wood rough cut board. A fabulous work of wooden art. Had a beautiful view down the hill of the lake as we ate. Server was Matt and he is fantastic and hilarious.

Bathrooms are pristine and the decor is bright and modern. Windows appear new. There was awnings on the front of the Pine Cone which obscured the view…they are gone.

We will be back for sure. It is not a seasonal place. No idea if the non-summer menu will change.
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I had Sesame crusted ahi tuna. Came with a nice portion of jasmine rice (which was sticky rice…great!) It was really a tuna steak and it was cooked to perfection. Also had 2 Safe Space IPA’s. Wife also had the Tuna and had 2 glasses of wine. Bill was $84.

Sat at a 12 foot (?) high top which was a beautiful butternut wood rough cut board. A fabulous work of wooden art. Had a beautiful view down the hill of the lake as we ate. Server was Matt and he is fantastic and hilarious.

Bathrooms are pristine and the decor is bright and modern. Windows appear new. There was awnings on the front of the Pine Cone which obscured the view…they are gone.

We will be back for sure. It is not a seasonal place. No idea if the non-summer menu will change.
$84 before tip, right?
Definitely a much different experience than the PC, but I'm glad you enjoyed it. Let's hope others do as well—though it no longer sounds like a place I'll be visiting, I'm always rooting for mom-and-pops to thrive.

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84 doesn't seem high with two seafood meals and four drinks
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Not for what was ordered, no—I meant more in terms of overall cost. I'm assuming there'll be less expensive options, though, but I've not seen a menu yet.

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Not for what was ordered, no—I meant more in terms of overall cost. I'm assuming there'll be less expensive options, though, but I've not seen a menu yet.

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$84 before tip, right?
Definitely a much different experience than the PC, but I'm glad you enjoyed it. Let's hope others do as well—though it no longer sounds like a place I'll be visiting, I'm always rooting for mom-and-pops to thrive.

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Menu is now online at https://www.facebook.com/birchandvine.nh/menu

Its not a place I would regularly visit even if it were on the Walmart side.

Looks like it could be good for a special event/anniversary/etc meal, but its not in my price range for a regular pit stop. But I'm a working guy with 2 kids I'm still supporting for a while and not really a connoisseur of fine dining, so I guess Ill more likely be found at the Dockside/Sawyers/Pops/Gringos/Shibleys at the pier ;-)

That said, in season Im sure there are plenty of folks that wouldn't blink an eye at these prices, they are certainly not off the charts, just a tad more than I tend to do. Off season might be a bit slower, but again the area is evolving and I see lots of really expensive cars and boats and I suspect there will be enough business to keep them going.

Clearly the area is changing and this is but one of the tell tail signs of whats to come. There is no going back to the days of the past, where you got a good breakfast at Johns in Alton for really short money, or a blowout buffet at B-Mays for a very reasonable price, and something right in the middle at the Wolfeboro Inn Tarvern. Just watch all the private jets coming in and out of the Laconia airport and you will see the money pouring into the area. Its fun to sit at Sawyers and try to imagine what its like to have that kind of money, but still be able to enjoy your basic burger and coffee frappe at the picnic tables and know you were able to pay that bill and not worry about it ;-)
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I went for dinner this evening with my wife to Birch and Vine. We entered the restaurant and the owner met us. She is extremely pleasant and the interior of the restaurant has been cleaned up and vastly improved. They have eliminated the dead space between the old restaurant and the store and added a dining area. It is a big improvement. We opted to eat outside which was nice. The sun was still intense because it was early but there were umbrellas to create shade. We were served by Casey who was very attentive and pleasant. There has definitely been a major upgrade in the service and attitude of the staff. I had a salad and ahi tuna. My wife had the calamari and salmon. We had a few drinks one of which was a nicely put together martini. The bill was about $116.00 pre tip. Certainly higher than the pine cone days but then again prices have skyrocketed everywhere, the service was light years ahead of the Pinecone and the food was in a different league. I enjoyed the Pine Cone but thought their food sucked to put it bluntly. I was disappointed to learn there isn’t a lunch any longer but I think that has to do with staffing issues that are prevalent in the industry more than anything else. This is a very good and well run restaurant and worth the higher prices. The challenge will be the winter months. Hopefully, they will be able to attract sufficient diners to make it work. Overall score 93.75%/100%.
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Our experience there was very good. Yes, greeted pleasantly by the owner. Good staffing. Bar a bit slow. What I noticed is that there are dinners that are reasonably priced and on up depending on what you want. We recommend that you give it a try.
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I went for dinner this evening with my wife to Birch and Vine. We entered the restaurant and the owner met us. She is extremely pleasant and the interior of the restaurant has been cleaned up and vastly improved. They have eliminated the dead space between the old restaurant and the store and added a dining area. It is a big improvement. We opted to eat outside which was nice. The sun was still intense because it was early but there were umbrellas to create shade. We were served by Casey who was very attentive and pleasant. There has definitely been a major upgrade in the service and attitude of the staff. I had a salad and ahi tuna. My wife had the calamari and salmon. We had a few drinks one of which was a nicely put together martini. The bill was about $116.00 pre tip. Certainly higher than the pine cone days but then again prices have skyrocketed everywhere, the service was light years ahead of the Pinecone and the food was in a different league. I enjoyed the Pine Cone but thought their food sucked to put it bluntly. I was disappointed to learn there isn’t a lunch any longer but I think that has to do with staffing issues that are prevalent in the industry more than anything else. This is a very good and well run restaurant and worth the higher prices. The challenge will be the winter months. Hopefully, they will be able to attract sufficient diners to make it work. Overall score 93.75%/100%.
Again, may well be reasonable for some very special occasion, but its way outside my normal price range for a once in a while dinner out with my wife. WAY OUTSIDE!
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My wife and I actually liked the food at the Pine Cone.
I guess everyone's tastes are different.

It used to be nice to go out for food in the lakes region with the wife and spend less than $100.
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My wife and I actually liked the food at the Pine Cone.
I guess everyone's tastes are different.

It used to be nice to go out for food in the lakes region with the wife and spend less than $100.
We thought the Pine Cone had great pizza. Will miss it.
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We thought the Pine Cone had great pizza. Will miss it.
Birch + Vine still does the pizza. I had it last week........
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My wife and I actually liked the food at the Pine Cone.
I guess everyone's tastes are different.

It used to be nice to go out for food in the lakes region with the wife and spend less than $100.
Perhaps my critique of the Pine Cone’s food was too critical but the menu never changed and I think the choices were sub par. I don’t disagree it is sad to see a local watering hole disappear. Hopefully, the owner is able to find a way to meet the community’s dining needs, especially during the off-season.
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I took one look at the menu and it has zero appeal. I won’t even try it. Overpriced and not much that I would even want eat except the steak and that’s like $40. It kinda sucks losing the pine cone, especially being able to get lunch too, food was great. This a blue collar area and I think it’s going to be a tough winter for them. Good luck I say.
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I took one look at the menu and it has zero appeal. I won’t even try it. Overpriced and not much that I would even want eat except the steak and that’s like $40. It kinda sucks losing the pine cone, especially being able to get lunch too, food was great. This a blue collar area and I think it’s going to be a tough winter for them. Good luck I say.
It's getting good reviews, but if this is $32 I'm definitely out!



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Again, may well be reasonable for some very special occasion, but its way outside my normal price range for a once in a while dinner out with my wife. WAY OUTSIDE!
Where else can you go in the east side lakes region for the same or better quality of service and the same or better food quality at cheaper prices? I think the pricing people are quoting are very reasonable for this day & age. I don’t do a lot of big nights out but I’d rather do one high quality one then 4 or 5 mediocre ones.


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I took one look at the menu and it has zero appeal. I won’t even try it. Overpriced and not much that I would even want eat except the steak and that’s like $40. It kinda sucks losing the pine cone, especially being able to get lunch too, food was great. This a blue collar area and I think it’s going to be a tough winter for them. Good luck I say.
I really want to like this place, and I don't mind a premium price for a premium meal. But, sadly, I have to agree with you. If they don't add steak tips for $20-25, burgers for $15, etc, it's going to be a LONG winter.
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I really want to like this place, and I don't mind a premium price for a premium meal. But, sadly, I have to agree with you. If they don't add steak tips for $20-25, burgers for $15, etc, it's going to be a LONG winter.
Maybe they will. Has anyone asked the owners or made these suggestions? I trust they’ll do what they think is necessary to survive.
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It's getting good reviews, but if this is $32 I'm definitely out!

What food / meal does the pic depict?

Viewing their website I get the impression they value quality and plating.
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I went there about 3 weeks ago - here is how I feel about the place.

The food was excellent, but a bit pricy for sure.
The drinks were good.
The service was excellent.
The atmosphere was not the same as the old Pine Cone. This place is definitely not "happy hour" friendly to the locals.

This is just my opinion.
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The initial reviews are in and they are very good !
Great to see a new semi upscale restaurant with reasonable prices take over .
The previous business went under so obviously that business model no longer worked and it was time for a change.
The previous owners did NOT go under! That's actually laughable.


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Not every restaurant that changes hands and reopens is the same, or even that close.

Good lord people (a few of you).

*she brought much of the same staff from O Bistro, so she has a loyal group of employees
*she had hundreds show up in the first few days, so she has many loyal customers
*the new place is upscale, yes, but it’s much like O Bistro price-wise
*did you ever go in the Pine Cone bathrooms? Did you want to eat after that?

Yeah, Pine Cone was fine for what it was, but come on.

New owner is a great lady and is an employer. Wish her well. I just got back from a great meal.

You want a cheaper meal, go elsewhere. This is a great place, based on what I saw tonight. I really don’t know her well, but she is a gem. Sheesh.
! You meant to say that she STOLE the employees from "O" correct?


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I went there about 3 weeks ago - here is how I feel about the place.

The food was excellent, but a bit pricy for sure.
The drinks were good.
The service was excellent.
The atmosphere was not the same as the old Pine Cone. This place is definitely not "happy hour" friendly to the locals.

This is just my opinion.
As for your comment regarding the "atmosphere"... you are correct. This place will suffer come winter in Melvin Village!


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No because the former O Bistro patrons will continue to dine at Birch and Vine in the winter as well as new friends they are making nightly.
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No because the former O Bistro patrons will continue to dine at Birch and Vine in the winter as well as new friends they are making nightly.
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No because the former O Bistro patrons will continue to dine at Birch and Vine in the winter as well as new friends they are making nightly.
Where does that leave former customers of the Pine Cone that do not wish to spend an arm and a leg on a pizza or casual dinner during the winter?
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Right where we were pre Pine Cone.
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I really want to like this place, and I don't mind a premium price for a premium meal. But, sadly, I have to agree with you. If they don't add steak tips for $20-25, burgers for $15, etc, it's going to be a LONG winter.
Looks like Marker 21 or The Corner House fall exactly where you are targeting.


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From what I have heard - Patti is not the owner, she leases the restaurant.

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Good lord people (a few of you).

*she brought much of the same staff from O Bistro, so she has a loyal group of employees
*she had hundreds show up in the first few days, so she has many loyal customers
*the new place is upscale, yes, but it’s much like O Bistro price-wise
*did you ever go in the Pine Cone bathrooms? Did you want to eat after that?

Yeah, Pine Cone was fine for what it was, but come on.

New owner is a great lady and is an employer. Wish her well. I just got back from a great meal.

You want a cheaper meal, go elsewhere. This is a great place, based on what I saw tonight. I really don’t know her well, but she is a gem. Sheesh.
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Hopefully you are right. We have talked to those "Locals" who use to go there for lunch and workers coming off jobs for happy hour have stopped going there. And from what they have told us Patti is fine and even ok with that. So be it. That is what it is. Other local establishments are benefiting. We have seen those "locals" and hard working trade people heading off to other places.
The Pine cone had the best pizza period! It was one of their speciality offerings. We wanted to try the new B&V pizza. The person on the phone is taking our order and says something about the cheese. Well we had their large pizza and the cheese was like chewing gum. The price for 4 toppings came to $33. If this doesn't change we won't be going there. It use to be our favorite place to go get steak tips, a burger or even a bowl of chilli. Guess we also will be looking for another place. That is too bad. Wish that was not the case. I want to help anyone to start a new business to be successful. But the feedback in this case it is what it is... And that is the direction the new owner wants to go. Wishing her the best of luck.
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They have a Facebook and Instagram account- pretty sure I read that they were going to offer a shuttle service from the town docks in Melvin Village (by the Church) and 19 Mile Bay town docks.
Pretty sure those aren't town docks at the church...
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Not 100 sure but pretty sure they are town docks.
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I don’t know the Town but this may address the docks in question?

https://www.tuftonboronh.gov/sites/g...ted_7-2-18.pdf
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Hopefully you are right. We have talked to those "Locals" who use to go there for lunch and workers coming off jobs for happy hour have stopped going there. And from what they have told us Patti is fine and even ok with that. So be it. That is what it is. Other local establishments are benefiting. We have seen those "locals" and hard working trade people heading off to other places.
The Pine cone had the best pizza period! It was one of their speciality offerings. We wanted to try the new B&V pizza. The person on the phone is taking our order and says something about the cheese. Well we had their large pizza and the cheese was like chewing gum. The price for 4 toppings came to $33. If this doesn't change we won't be going there. It use to be our favorite place to go get steak tips, a burger or even a bowl of chilli. Guess we also will be looking for another place. That is too bad. Wish that was not the case. I want to help anyone to start a new business to be successful. But the feedback in this case it is what it is... And that is the direction the new owner wants to go. Wishing her the best of luck.
This saddens me- we live very close to PineCone and it was a regular place for us for take out lunch or eating there at dinner. We'd get nachos on a Saturday with drinks or get steak, tips, burgers, appetizers for supper. We had their pizza on the Tuesday night Pasta Night specials and that was ok, too-

I know prices are up everywhere but a $33.00 pizza won't cut it with my husband, that I am sure of. Maybe I'll try it with some gal friends one night after summer is over and give it a shot.
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The ramp and wall are town property. The docks are private.
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My mistake for not clarifying- the wharf/wall at the church to the left of the launch ramp coming in by water. Correct- the docks are private.
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This saddens me- we live very close to PineCone and it was a regular place for us for take out lunch or eating there at dinner. We'd get nachos on a Saturday with drinks or get steak, tips, burgers, appetizers for supper. We had their pizza on the Tuesday night Pasta Night specials and that was ok, too-

I know prices are up everywhere but a $33.00 pizza won't cut it with my husband, that I am sure of. Maybe I'll try it with some gal friends one night after summer is over and give it a shot.
I like the new place a lot, but let me ask about the “$33 pizza”.
What was it? Wagyu beef?
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Enough of the "sour grapes" comments about PC being no more.

Gotta get over it, same as when Waldo Peppers closed.

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Just moved to Melvin Village this past winter and my first night went to Pinecone with live music playing Alice in Chains and some awesome pizza to put in my empty fridge. I was hooked. Was happy to walk there with visiting friends and family during snow storms or just to shoot the **** with the locals after work. Very casual atmosphere and awesome staff.

I don't have the same history as others with the Pinecone but nonetheless will miss it. Especially as this upcoming winter approaches. (cue "You don't know what you got till its gone")

Am seriously considering converting my house to a tavern if anyone else is interested
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Just moved to Melvin Village this past winter and my first night went to Pinecone with live music playing Alice in Chains and some awesome pizza to put in my empty fridge. I was hooked. Was happy to walk there with visiting friends and family during snow storms or just to shoot the **** with the locals after work. Very casual atmosphere and awesome staff.

I don't have the same history as others with the Pinecone but nonetheless will miss it. Especially as this upcoming winter approaches. (cue "You don't know what you got till its gone")

Am seriously considering converting my house to a tavern if anyone else is interested
I was thinking the same thing.
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