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Old 01-24-2021, 11:14 PM   #1
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Default Overnighting in a bob house?

My understanding is that one cannot spend the night on a boat on Lake Winni unless it is tied to a dock.

So a night in a boat at anchor or on a mooring is against the rules.

Is spending the night in a shelter on the ice allowed?

Could one just skip the fishing part and go ice camping?

I know, cold, yatayata...
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Old 01-25-2021, 05:01 AM   #2
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Question Who's Gonna Check?

Bad idea.

Sooner or later, a heated Bob House will claim lives due to carbon monoxide poisoningor oxygen depletion.

Even then, the floor can be weakened by a temperature differential, to eventually cause a capsize in total darkness!

In the absence of heating devices, a cold overnight can be fatal--combined with alcohol consumption--which always burdens the reasoning process.
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Yeah but... is it legal?
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Old 01-25-2021, 09:03 AM   #4
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Yeah but... is it legal?
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I never stated which of us was going to be out on the ice...
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Default ....... minus-17 night on Eagle Lake, Mt Lafayette

Back in sometime like January, 1972, I spent the night in a tent with another winter hiker pitched on the frozen and snow covered Eagle Lake on the side of Mt Lafayette, close to the closed AMC Greenleaf Hut. It was a cold night so we closed the two ventilation openings at the top two corners of the tent to retain the inside heat.

There was four of us, in two tents, there on the frozen lake, with one guy, not me, being the leader of our winter hiking group.

Sometime in the middle of the night, like maybe 2-am, we both woke up a minute apart and were both very short of breath. Turned out our breath had condensed and froze on the inside surface of our A-frame winter tent and we were short of air. Opening the vents while out of breath and placing face up tight against the corner tube vents quickly restored my shortness of breath problem back to normal. That was a wake-up call, being out of breath like that!

Checking the temperature on a small hiker's thermometer showed it to be minus-17 degrees.

A foam pad and good sleeping bag were very important items, plus wearing most of my clothes, too.

Made the big mistake of not keeping my rubber mouse boots inside the sleeping bag, overnight, and had big problem with cold, cold feet the next day while hiking up the mile to the top of Mount Lafayette, and back down. My two feet never really thawed out while wearing the cold Air Force boots till got back inside the heated car but had no further issues such as frost bite. I had assumed my feet would simply warm-up by walking uphill while wearing the dry boots which is usually the way it goes.

Big winds atop Mt Lafayette changed our hiking plan for hiking Lafayette and Lincoln to just laying, face down, behind the old foundation stone wall atop Lafayette and then going back down same way we went up. The leader wanted to go for it but got out-voted by the three other guys, as I recall. Talk about a fearless leader with a blue felt, face mask! .....
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Old 01-25-2021, 10:23 AM   #7
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Overnight in a bob house doesn't mean solitary. Loser has to carry out the thunderjug. I don't see it as much different than winter camping except that carrying rocks out onto he ice so they can be heated seems like a lot of excess work. You probably want to put a layer of noodles under the bob house to insulate from the ice. FLL may have other related input.
Legal? I doubt there is a specific prohibition since the legislature usually believes you can't legislate against stupid or foolish. At least to Aps, this is in one of those categories. To quell his CO fears, I'd run a portable generator outside and an electric heater inside.
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People do it all the time - overnight in a bob house. I've done it myself several times.
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With a 12/2 100' extension cord you could plug a 1500-watt, oil filled radiator space heater, $59.99, into someone's shoreline home ice-eater electric outlet and those heaters are very reliable with three 600-900-1500 watt heat settings.

The cord that comes with it is probably a 12/2, not grounded cord with a simple two prong plug. That would do an excellent job of heating and could be lowered down to 600-watts for sleeping or something.

The extension cord probably gets warm with use and sinks into the ice maybe a little bit?
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Old 01-25-2021, 12:51 PM   #10
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I know folks do it often. The only other caution I’d offer is to make sure you have a lot of reflective tape on the bob house or exterior lighting that can run overnight. The risk of a snowmobile running into you, especially in a more isolated location, is very real. Remember this from a few years back? Amazing no one was killed.
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I'm with FLL--unpredictable things happen in super cold. Spent a night camping in -20--my nostrils swelled so completely that it felt like I did not have a nose. Fell asleep praying to remember not to close my mouth (haha)
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You can ice fish 24 hours a day in NH during ice fishing season. There are no restrictions for hours of day or days of week.

You can have holes in the ice 'within' your bob house so long as you are following the laws regarding number of lines etc.

If F&G are checking bob houses in the middle of the night, they will knock. At that point you are awake and can unlock the door.

Nothing illegal about it.
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My understanding is that one cannot spend the night on a boat on Lake Winni unless it is tied to a dock.

So a night in a boat at anchor or on a mooring is against the rules.

Is spending the night in a shelter on the ice allowed?


Could one just skip the fishing part and go ice camping?

I know, cold, yatayata...
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I can not speak for winnipesaukee..... But When I was living on Lake Champlain, people stayed the night in their Bob houses all the time. I knew guys that had generators so that they could have TV, microwave, small electric heaters etc..... a cot to keep you off the floor, and a good sleeping bag make it workable.
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Arrow Wake Up--This Is The Warden!

How it's done in Maine:

https://bangordailynews.com/2021/02/...-maine-warden/
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So, how the heck does this overnight bob house do it in Maine, a-yuh?

Bangor Daily News says my freebie article ration for February is all used up?

Hey ...... you wanna re-post this as a pdf ..... whatever the heck a pdf means!
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That's just right ..... a portable document format ..... is just what I was think'n.

Hey ........ attention-ApS ....... all across the 50-states as far away as Alaska and Hawaii ...... plus all the ships at sea ...... everyone is waiting for you to re-post this BDN-bobhouse story as a pdf ...... so's they can read it ....... the ball is in your court! .....

Bangor Daily News has some good long detailed articles ...... plus it's in Maine!
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Post An Excerpt...

Night fishing for Cusk restricted. Maine's Wardens approached by snowmobile. One Warden, who worked until 2006, wrote:

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"Once I verified there was fishing activity, I would conduct surveillance. It didn’t take long to determine if the camp lights were on or off or if anyone was checking or working the lines. Nonetheless, I would wait the required hour and then some before taking any action.

"Usually by midnight or so I would make my approach to the camp. Knocking on the door and waking up the camp occupants, more often than not, resulted in a less than enthusiastic welcome. However, most fishermen understood the errors of their ways and were accountable. Some, perhaps still feeling the effects of camp frivolity earlier in the evening, became quite irritated and agitated. Overall, cool heads would mostly prevail and I was able to do my job with a minimum of conflict..."
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