Amphibious vehicle on NH waters

Hillcountry · 05-10-2017, 06:01 PM

Does anyone know if amphibious vehicles such as Argos that are made to float and be propelled by spinning wheels or even an outboard or electric motor can be operated in NH waters?
I know that wetlands are off limits but I can't find anything about amphibious on ponds and lakes in the regulations.

Descant · 05-10-2017, 07:05 PM

I've seen water cars in the lake. Usually didn't go far from the dock or launch ramp. This was in Glendale near MP headquarters, so I doubt illegal.

Woodsy · 05-10-2017, 07:29 PM

What Descant said...

I have seen the AmphiCars in Paugus bay on calm days... Not sure how well an Argo will do in the rougher spots or places with a strong current like Weirs Channel. Pretty sure you need bow numbers too.... and all relevant safety equipment.

Woodsy

Hillcountry · 05-10-2017, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woodsy

What Descant said...

I have seen the AmphiCars in Paugus bay on calm days... Not sure how well an Argo will do in the rougher spots or places with a strong current like Weirs Channel. Pretty sure you need bow numbers too.... and all relevant safety equipment.

Woodsy

Oh for sure the Argo would be only for calm waters and most certainly not Winni!
Just can't find any regulations on them...

chachee52 · 05-10-2017, 08:20 PM

I would think that just as long as its registered as a boat you are fine to take it on the water. I do know the Amphicar has to be registered as a car and a boat if it going to be driven as both. So I would think if it acts as a boat it needs to be registered as a boat.
But the Argo is more of an ATV and I would assume only going across small ponds and streams rather than using it as a boat to go fishing or something like that. So if that's the case it is in the water for such a short time and not in any length of time that it wouldn't be an issue to register it as a boat.
But that's just my thoughts of what might be logical.

TiltonBB · 05-11-2017, 04:32 AM

Speaking of Amphicars:Many years ago I saw one in a parade that had a sign on the back that read: "If Ted Kennedy had one of these he would be President now"

But if you want a multi-purpose vehicle that will be fun to use on the water try this:

https://www.watercar.com/index.php

Rich · 05-11-2017, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

Speaking of Amphicars:Many years ago I saw one in a parade that had a sign on the back that read: "If Ted Kennedy had one of these he would be President now"

But if you want a multi-purpose vehicle that will be fun to use on the water try this:

https://www.watercar.com/index.php

Yes, these are very cool!

At $126K to $155K each, please invite me for a ride when you get one!

Bear Guy · 05-11-2017, 08:30 AM

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https://www.winnipesaukee.com/photop...php?photo=2576
https://www.winnipesaukee.com/photop...hp?photo=11586

webmaster · 05-11-2017, 08:41 AM

This one doesn't allow embedding:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=094ElhkN6Qs

Some great pictures in this thread:
https://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums...ad.php?t=18141

Patofnaud · 05-11-2017, 09:07 AM

I've seen that baby blue one in Meredith Bay and in Alton Bay near the grandstand, so he does get around and far from home.

I'm guessing he stays near shore instead of going straight across the Broads.

ApS · 02-27-2018, 08:43 AM

An Amphicar just sold for $47,000.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...ign=2018-02-27

.

MAXUM · 02-27-2018, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ApS

An Amphicar just sold for $47,000.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...ign=2018-02-27

.

If you watch the car auctions on TV - these cars have quite a cult following and some bring huge money depending on the level and quality of restoration. Not sure what the attraction is - but if it was made there are those that collect them I guess. I have a buddy that spent big bucks to restore a 1975 Ford Pinto.... my first question was WHY?!?

Some people do the darndest things!

NHGUNOWNER · 02-28-2018, 10:00 PM

I would say if you intend to operate it as a boat, you'd have to register and equip as such.
Sorta like how I can operate my tracked atv as a snowmobile, and down any legal snowmobile trail, if I double register.

NHGUNOWNER · 02-28-2018, 10:06 PM

The red Amphicar that I've seen mamy times in the area definitely had a hull/bow number lettered on it.
I spoke to the owner of it up on Meredith derby weekend.
He was interested in my atv, said he's buying one soon. He mentioned the car, I assumed it was the one I'd seen before. Didn't realize there were several in the area.

fatlazyless · 02-28-2018, 11:07 PM

Here's a 1943 VW Schwimmwagen amphibious vehicle ... www.oldbug.com/schwim1.htm ... a 75-year old .... look'n totally ready for anything with a shovel, paddle, and rifle ... located on west coast, U.S., prior to sold.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQPJc441NVg Several Schwimmwagens in the Peene River near Demmin, Germany in 2007.

Obviously, what it needs is a camouflage colored foam noodle!

Still photos of a Ford Sea Jeep GPA (General Purpose Amphibian) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq_yG42LjNo

Supposedly, could be a fake Russian copy of the real 1943 Ford, made in the USA...... who you gonna believe? If it was Russian made, it be a dilapidated wood wagon, and be pulled by a tired, old donkey doing the donkey paddle.

And, here's a Volkswagen 1942 Schwimmwagen, 59-second, Nazi Germany, WWII propaganda film short that may be authentic (?) but probably not, because is just too crisp to be a real reel of film from WWII: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S59Z7dfvj50

05-10-2017, 06:01 PM	#1
Hillcountry Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: In the hills Posts: 2,346 Thanks: 1,589 Thanked 763 Times in 457 Posts	Amphibious vehicle on NH waters Does anyone know if amphibious vehicles such as Argos that are made to float and be propelled by spinning wheels or even an outboard or electric motor can be operated in NH waters? I know that wetlands are off limits but I can't find anything about amphibious on ponds and lakes in the regulations.

05-10-2017, 07:29 PM	#3
Woodsy Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Weirs Beach Posts: 1,948 Thanks: 80 Thanked 969 Times in 432 Posts	What Descant said... I have seen the AmphiCars in Paugus bay on calm days... Not sure how well an Argo will do in the rougher spots or places with a strong current like Weirs Channel. Pretty sure you need bow numbers too.... and all relevant safety equipment. Woodsy __________________ The only way to eliminate ignorant behavior is through education. You can't fix stupid.

05-11-2017, 04:32 AM	#6
TiltonBB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gilford, NH and Florida Posts: 2,893 Thanks: 643 Thanked 2,151 Times in 898 Posts	Amphicars Speaking of Amphicars:Many years ago I saw one in a parade that had a sign on the back that read: "If Ted Kennedy had one of these he would be President now" But if you want a multi-purpose vehicle that will be fun to use on the water try this: https://www.watercar.com/index.php

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ApS Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Florida (Sebring & Keys), Wolfeboro Posts: 5,788 Thanks: 2,084 Thanked 742 Times in 532 Posts	Shoulda Saved More Pennies... An Amphicar just sold for $47,000. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...ign=2018-02-27 . __________________ Every MP who enters Winter Harbor will pass by my porch of 67 years...

05-10-2017, 07:05 PM	#2
Descant Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Merrimack and Welch Island Posts: 4,028 Thanks: 1,208 Thanked 1,508 Times in 982 Posts	I've seen water cars in the lake. Usually didn't go far from the dock or launch ramp. This was in Glendale near MP headquarters, so I doubt illegal.

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05-10-2017, 08:20 PM	#5
chachee52 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Gilford, NH Posts: 383 Thanks: 6 Thanked 79 Times in 62 Posts	I would think that just as long as its registered as a boat you are fine to take it on the water. I do know the Amphicar has to be registered as a car and a boat if it going to be driven as both. So I would think if it acts as a boat it needs to be registered as a boat. But the Argo is more of an ATV and I would assume only going across small ponds and streams rather than using it as a boat to go fishing or something like that. So if that's the case it is in the water for such a short time and not in any length of time that it wouldn't be an issue to register it as a boat. But that's just my thoughts of what might be logical.

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05-11-2017, 09:07 AM	#10
Patofnaud Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Tilton/Paugus Bay Posts: 234 Thanks: 13 Thanked 61 Times in 43 Posts	I've seen that baby blue one in Meredith Bay and in Alton Bay near the grandstand, so he does get around and far from home. I'm guessing he stays near shore instead of going straight across the Broads.

02-28-2018, 10:00 PM	#13
NHGUNOWNER Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Manchester Posts: 24 Thanks: 6 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	I would say if you intend to operate it as a boat, you'd have to register and equip as such. Sorta like how I can operate my tracked atv as a snowmobile, and down any legal snowmobile trail, if I double register.

02-28-2018, 10:06 PM	#14
NHGUNOWNER Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Manchester Posts: 24 Thanks: 6 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	The red Amphicar that I've seen mamy times in the area definitely had a hull/bow number lettered on it. I spoke to the owner of it up on Meredith derby weekend. He was interested in my atv, said he's buying one soon. He mentioned the car, I assumed it was the one I'd seen before. Didn't realize there were several in the area.

02-28-2018, 11:07 PM	#15
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,525 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 295 Thanked 957 Times in 698 Posts	Here's a 1943 VW Schwimmwagen amphibious vehicle ... www.oldbug.com/schwim1.htm ... a 75-year old .... look'n totally ready for anything with a shovel, paddle, and rifle ... located on west coast, U.S., prior to sold. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQPJc441NVg Several Schwimmwagens in the Peene River near Demmin, Germany in 2007. Obviously, what it needs is a camouflage colored foam noodle! Still photos of a Ford Sea Jeep GPA (General Purpose Amphibian) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq_yG42LjNo Supposedly, could be a fake Russian copy of the real 1943 Ford, made in the USA...... who you gonna believe? If it was Russian made, it be a dilapidated wood wagon, and be pulled by a tired, old donkey doing the donkey paddle. And, here's a Volkswagen 1942 Schwimmwagen, 59-second, Nazi Germany, WWII propaganda film short that may be authentic (?) but probably not, because is just too crisp to be a real reel of film from WWII: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S59Z7dfvj50 __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake! Last edited by fatlazyless; 03-02-2018 at 03:13 AM.

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