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Marine Patrol provides data on big lake speed tickets
By Michael Kitch Aug 18, 2011 12:00 am GILFORD - Lieutenant Tim Dunleavy of the New Hampshire Marine Patrol said yesterday that enforcement of the law limiting boat speeds on Lake Winnipesaukee to 45 mph. in daylight and 30 mph. after dark has brought no surprises. "What we're seeing is consistent with the data we collected before the law was enacted and enforced," he said. Dunleavy said that through the month of July, Marine Patrol officers made 21 stops for excessive speed and issued six tickets and 15 warnings. Only five of the stops were made at night, leaving 16 made in the daytime. One particular 50-foot performance boat, like those featured on "Miami Vice," was stopped four times for excessive speed, representing a quarter of all the daytime stops. Three personal watercraft, better known as jet-skis, and a jet boat manufactured by Sea-Doo, all less than 20 feet in length, accounted for four stops. There were four stops of vessels between 21-feet and 25-feet in length, five of vessels between 26-feet and 30-feet in length and four of vessels between 31-feet and 35-feet in length. Dunleavy said that contrary to the recent assertions by a reader of The Laconia Daily Sun, made in correspondence to the newspaper, that Marine Patrol has limited its enforcement efforts to large performance boats, the data indicates that officers have stopped vessels of all sizes traveling at excessive speeds. "People on shore often don't know why an officer stops a particular boat," he said. He explained that officers may come along aside in response to requests for assistance or direction as well as to cite the helmsman for an infraction, which may or may not involve excessive speed. The data, Dunleavy suggested, reveals little about the impact of imposing the speed limits. Repeating that the results mirrored those found before the law was enacted, he said that "it is really had to say whether the law has had a significant impact" and noted that other factors, including fuel prices, the economy and the weather, may affect the volume and speed of boat traffic. Dunleavy did allow that the relatively small number of stops indicated a high level voluntary compliance with the speed limits. |
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High level of "voluntary" compliance or indicative of the lack of a problem to start? A few bad eggs over a months time cause the problem compared to hundreds to thousands out on any given day.
One single boat made up 25% of all daytime stops. That just bolsters my theory even more. The original test data/pilot findings indicated there were even less stops and warnings noted than this. Wasn't there only one ticket given during the pilot period? |
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If you do the math it is actually more like 33%.
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Marine Patrol provides data on big lake speed tickets
By Michael Kitch Aug 18, 2011 12:00 am GILFORD - Lieutenant Tim Dunleavy of the New Hampshire Marine Patrol said yesterday that enforcement of the law limiting boat speeds on Lake Winnipesaukee to 45 mph. in daylight and 30 mph. after dark has brought no surprises. "What we're seeing is consistent with the data we collected before the law was enacted and enforced," he said. Dunleavy said that through the month of July, Marine Patrol officers made 21 stops for excessive speed and issued six tickets and 15 warnings. Only five of the stops were made at night, leaving 16 made in the daytime. One particular 50-foot performance boat, like those featured on "Miami Vice," was stopped four times for excessive speed, representing a quarter of all the daytime stops. Three personal watercraft, better known as jet-skis, and a jet boat manufactured by Sea-Doo, all less than 20 feet in length, accounted for four stops. There were four stops of vessels between 21-feet and 25-feet in length, five of vessels between 26-feet and 30-feet in length and four of vessels between 31-feet and 35-feet in length. Dunleavy said that contrary to the recent assertions by a reader of The Laconia Daily Sun, made in correspondence to the newspaper, that Marine Patrol has limited its enforcement efforts to large performance boats, the data indicates that officers have stopped vessels of all sizes traveling at excessive speeds. "People on shore often don't know why an officer stops a particular boat," he said. He explained that officers may come along aside in response to requests for assistance or direction as well as to cite the helmsman for an infraction, which may or may not involve excessive speed. The data, Dunleavy suggested, reveals little about the impact of imposing the speed limits. Repeating that the results mirrored those found before the law was enacted, he said that "it is really had to say whether the law has had a significant impact" and noted that other factors, including fuel prices, the economy and the weather, may affect the volume and speed of boat traffic. Dunleavy did allow that the relatively small number of stops indicated a high level voluntary compliance with the speed limits.
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The bottom line is that the SL will cause consciences people to watch their speed because they inherently do not want to get a ticket. The jerks who could give a damn don't care what the law is. The law does nothing in reining in the lawbreakers! The people in Concord voted the SAFE VOTE! Too many times this type of voting unintentionally undermines our freedom. Too bad!
Funny, it's kind of like gun laws, only the law abiding folks pay any attention to them. |
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NH and the USA is becoming a stinking ship. What a fine mess the majority of the people got us into.
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The bottom line rusty is that you missed the point, totally! Why do you even respond to things that you don't understand? Your continued retorts as Sunset on the Dock, et. al. are boring. I acknowledge that there is a SL on the lake, and you should acknowlede that some of us think it is still useless. You and your ilk won, and we lost. Are you going to deny me the right to continue to voice an objection to the law?
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I can't deny you anything in life. I think you should voice your opinion anyway that you want...however....please don't deny me a response to your opinion. If you are going to write in a way that is difficult to understand then I have to comment on it the way "I" interpret it. I acknowledge that some of you think the SL is useless. |
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Rusty, Oh I mean Sunset Bob, Pineedles has always had only one, not like yourself, going back and forth between Bob and Rusty sometimes is hard to keep up with. By the way was that you in Meredith Bay with a kayak today?
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Thanks all. I decided not to respond to his last accusation because Rusty and I would just go back and forth, and that's pointless. I'm cleaning up the yard and decided to take a break. No damage to the home and we are one of the lucky ones with power, but no power at the factory, hence no real work today.
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