Getting Snowy Dec 17 - 22, 2008

Resident 2B · 12-17-2008, 01:30 AM

It looks like we will have three rounds of snow in the next several days with the total accumulation from the three events of 12" to 14" around the lake. Each storm should be bigger than the storm before it, but when they are over, we should have more than a foot.

The Sunday night/early Monday storm could be a major event. If so, we will may approach or exceed 16" from the three events.

Christmas is looking WHITE!

R2B

VitaBene · 12-17-2008, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Resident 2B

It looks like we will have three rounds of snow in the next several days with the total accumulation from the three events of 12" to 14" around the lake. Each storm should be bigger than the storm before it, but when they are over, we should have more than a foot.

The Sunday night/early Monday storm could be a major event. If so, we will may approach or exceed 16" from the three events.

Christmas is looking WHITE!

R2B

Woohoo... that is great. Gotta get those snow machines registered.

twoplustwo · 12-17-2008, 07:07 AM

Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow!!!

I hope those down south get their power restored in the middle of all of the white stuff. Most of us here in the Lakes Region dodged a major bullet on the ice storm (although my basement is a wreck).

NHKathy · 12-17-2008, 08:36 AM

It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas, on every webcam I see.......

(Just a messy, sloppy, rainy mix down here in RI

)

KingPrat · 12-17-2008, 10:46 AM

Sounds awesome! Hopefully they'll be able to get the groomers out and get those snowmobile trails looking pristine!

I'll be up the weekend after New Years! Can't wait!!!!!

dpg · 12-18-2008, 07:03 AM

Just makes me want to see Feb '09 come even quicker, when I go on a warm cruise for a week.

I hate snow.

SIKSUKR · 12-18-2008, 10:48 AM

If I hated snow I would move to where it isn't.Why does one stay where they are miserable?

CanisLupusArctos · 12-18-2008, 04:13 PM

The lakes region is now under a winter weather advisory for a snowfall of up to 6 inches, Friday afternoon and night.

This is the result of a storm getting organized over the middle of the nation and it will move east quickly, passing just south of Long Island tomorrow night. Any change in the storm track to the north or to the south will also adjust the snow belt the same amount of distance.

Right now it appears that an average of 6 inches will fall in the Concord area with higher amounts south of there, and lesser amounts to the north. I would say 4 inches as an average for the lake. Boston and Hartford will get a foot out of this one.

I agree with R2B, keep your eyes on Sunday night.

The combination of heavy snow and extreme cold that we are expecting in the next week should be a VERY good thing for the NH ski economy with Christmas vacation coming up, and this is a make-or-break time of year for the ski areas. The extreme cold that will occupy us in between snowstorms will allow the ski areas to blast their slopes with their own snow on top of what falls.

CanisLupusArctos · 12-19-2008, 01:28 PM

The National Weather Service put the lakes region in an expanded winter storm warning for this storm tonight.

I am now expecting an average of 7 inches along the southern side of the lake, and 5 inches along the north side of the lake. The jackpot is going to be south of the MA border for this one, where more than a foot will fall in many areas.

SteveA · 12-19-2008, 01:57 PM

Lots of folks in the Nashua/Milford/Amherst are still have no power. I hope this isn't a heavy wet snow, the crews and the familys really could use a little break from Mother Nature.

Resident 2B · 12-19-2008, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveA

Lots of folks in the Nashua/Milford/Amherst are still have no power. I hope this isn't a heavy wet snow, the crews and the familys really could use a little break from Mother Nature.

I share your concern about the people still without power. I think this snow will be light as the temps will stay cold. There will be a good amount of wind on the back side and that will cause a lot of drifting.

It may have been a bit better for everyone if the snow was wetter because it would not blow around. The drifting and 'ground blizzard' conditions tonight might be hard to deal with.

R2B

CanisLupusArctos · 12-19-2008, 07:17 PM

This is a very dry fluffy snow. Temp is now 11 at Black Cat, and falling. Still several more hours of snow to come.

The snow is a good insulator, once on the roof in the right amount. Those without power will be able to use temporary heat sources more efficiently with snow on the roof to help hold the heat in. Snow has a lot of air whipped into it, and the air pockets provide the insulation.

The radio announced that power crews were working through this storm to get power back from the ice storm.

SIDE NOTE: This snow falling in the lake water has brought the weather station's water temp down to 32 at the 2-foot depth. The probe at 10 feet down is now 35. That is what the winter temp profile looks like when it's frozen, which means all the lake has to do now is sit still, and it will freeze. Tomorrow I am forecasting a high of 18 for the lakes region, which will cool the water even more. It will be windy, which won't let the water sit still. But it should be ready to freeze very quickly as soon as it does.

CanisLupusArctos · 12-20-2008, 06:36 PM

A strong coastal storm will hug the northeast coast of the US as it moves past
our area Sunday night. It will spread snow over the lakes region by midday
Sunday and the snow will quickly become heavy. Heavy snow will fall for several
hours on Sunday evening.

This storm will create near-blizzard conditions in areas exposed to the wind,
especially after the storm passes closest to us on Sunday night. Wind will shift
into the west at that time and may gust to 50 mph. With powdery snow expected,
the wind will create snowdrifts and blowing snow may reduce visibility to zero
for a few seconds at a time.

The National Weather Service is advising that travel on Sunday afternoon and
evening be curtailed except in an emergency. If you must set out, be prepared
to get stuck. Carry the items you would need in order to camp in your car until
you are rescued... as well as a reliable form of communication for calling help.

Temperatures will be dropping into the single numbers on Sunday night with very
windy weather. Things will not warm up much on Monday and the wind will continue.
The high temperature on Monday will likely be around 10 degrees. Light snow
will continue as residual moisture hangs around in the wake of the departing
storm. West-facing slopes could get another 4 or 5 inches on Monday. Other
areas may see another inch or two.

Resident 2B · 12-21-2008, 12:28 PM

This is going to be a major storm. As CLA mentioned last evening, this is not a time to be out and about.

This is from the NWS at about noon today:

MODERATE TO HEAVY SNOW HAS OVERSPREAD THE AREA LATE THIS MORNING
WITH ACCUMULATING SNOW OF ABOUT AN INCH PER HOUR. TEMPERATURES
REMAINED VERY COLD WITH READINGS IN THE SINGLE NUMBERS. WINDS WERE
NORTHEAST 5 TO 15 MPH.

OVER THE NEXT FEW HOURS A FURTHER DETERIORATION IN CONDITIONS WILL
CONTINUE TO OCCUR AS THE STORM DEEPENS OFFSHORE AND SPREADS
INTENSE SNOWFALL RATES OF ONE TO THREE INCHES PER HOUR ACROSS THE
REGION. WINDS WILL ALSO INCREASE AND BECOME GUSTY RESTRICTING
VISIBILITIES TO NEAR ZERO AT TIMES AND WILL CREATE CONSIDERABLE
BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW. NEAR BLIZZARD CONDITIONS CAN BE
EXPECTED AT TIMES...ESPECIALLY IN OPEN AREAS. ANY TRAVEL IS
STRONGLY DISCOURAGED FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE DAY AS THIS
DANGEROUS STORM CONTINUES TO INTENSIFY.

UNNECESSARY TRAVEL SHOULD BE AVOIDED. IF YOU MUST TRAVEL...DRIVE
WITH EXTREME CAUTION AND ALLOW PLENTY OF TIME TO REACH YOUR
DESTINATION. BRING ALONG A WINTER SURVIVAL KIT TO INCLUDE EXTRA
WARM CLOTHING AND FOOD IN CASE YOU GET STRANDED.

Be Safe, Everyone!

R2B

Lakegeezer · 12-21-2008, 03:33 PM

At 3:30 on Sunday, its not really that bad. Only 3-4" so far and visibility is pretty good. Is this storm going too quickly out to sea or is it going to move back in on us and give us the foot we are looking for?

Resident 2B · 12-21-2008, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lakegeezer

At 3:30 on Sunday, its not really that bad. Only 3-4" so far and visibility is pretty good. Is this storm going too quickly out to sea or is it going to move back in on us and give us the foot we are looking for?

The center is near Block Island and deepening rapidly. Pressures are falling very rapidly to the NE of the storm center, so the storm is still moving NE and not out to sea. A dry slot worked its way up from the Manchester area into the lakes region. That dry slot is filling in on radar. Snow should intensify soon.

Thisis still a major storm that will give us 12+ inches and a lot of wind later tonight. It should snow for another six to ten hours.

R2B

Misty Blue · 12-21-2008, 04:11 PM

You know what they say about Winter in the Lakes Region...

It's the snow that brings 'em, but it's the slush that keeps 'em!

Misty Blue.

pats fan · 12-21-2008, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Lakegeezer

At 3:30 on Sunday, its not really that bad. Only 3-4" so far and visibility is pretty good. Is this storm going too quickly out to sea or is it going to move back in on us and give us the foot we are looking for?

I am out of state but checked in with someone in Meredith about 3 hours ago (2ish). At that time he said there was about 7 inches on the ground. Where are you? Is he trying to overly dramatic or are you not in the Meredith area?

Resident 2B · 12-21-2008, 05:30 PM

The back edge of the snow is now close to the lakes region. Therefore, the snow may stop sooner than I had been thinking. It will get windy and the snow will blow, but it is looking like 12"+ may not happen.

R2B

Lakegeezer · 12-21-2008, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pats fan

I am out of state but checked in with someone in Meredith about 3 hours ago (2ish). At that time he said there was about 7 inches on the ground. Where are you? Is he trying to overly dramatic or are you not in the Meredith area?

I'm in Moultonborough, about 3 miles ENE from Black Cat station and about 8 miles from Meredith. The weather is often different in the three spots. So far, from Friday through 7:30 PM I've picked up about 9-10" - probably 5-6" today. It is still snowing, but visibility never got too bad for long. The winds have started and a gust blew over the Christmas tree on our porch.

9:30 PM update: What was 9-10" is now 13". Winds calm, big flakes. Very light fluffy snow falling

CanisLupusArctos · 12-21-2008, 10:42 PM

At 10:30 pm on Black Cat Island, the snow total is 9.0 inches for the day. There is light snow and blowing snow. Snow depth is 14 inches.

I agree with R2B on less than 12 inches, although it's possible that with residual moisture left over from the storm, we may get a couple more inches through noon tomorrow. The reason is that the storm drew a little farther south than anticipated, which has brought the heaviest snow belt just a few miles south and east of here. Rochester at 6 pm was reporting 14 inches and they've had a lot more snow since then.

twoplustwo · 12-22-2008, 07:22 AM

Fearing a wet and heavy snow, my husband had cleared off all of our roof surfaces prior to this one hitting. The roofed entryway to our basement at the back of our house, a spot fairly well protected from wind, has us at 16.5" here in M'Boro. I am off of Bean Rd., can spit the distance to the Center Harbor line, and am about equal distances from the 3 lakes, for location specifics.

There's my entirely unscientific measurement

. It is gorgeous out there! I am off to snap some digi pics and send them south to Philly and Jersey to make all of my relatives (who are currently rain-soaked) completely jealous.

12-17-2008, 01:30 AM	#1
Resident 2B Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: North Shore, MA Posts: 1,352 Thanks: 987 Thanked 310 Times in 161 Posts	Getting Snowy Dec 17 - 22, 2008 It looks like we will have three rounds of snow in the next several days with the total accumulation from the three events of 12" to 14" around the lake. Each storm should be bigger than the storm before it, but when they are over, we should have more than a foot. The Sunday night/early Monday storm could be a major event. If so, we will may approach or exceed 16" from the three events. Christmas is looking WHITE! R2B

12-17-2008, 07:07 AM	#3
twoplustwo Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 456 Thanks: 51 Thanked 39 Times in 21 Posts	woohoo! Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow!!! I hope those down south get their power restored in the middle of all of the white stuff. Most of us here in the Lakes Region dodged a major bullet on the ice storm (although my basement is a wreck).

12-18-2008, 10:48 AM	#7
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	I love snow! If I hated snow I would move to where it isn't.Why does one stay where they are miserable? __________________ SIKSUKR

12-18-2008, 04:13 PM	#8
CanisLupusArctos Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Center Harbor Posts: 1,049 Thanks: 15 Thanked 472 Times in 107 Posts	Winter Wx Advisory The lakes region is now under a winter weather advisory for a snowfall of up to 6 inches, Friday afternoon and night. This is the result of a storm getting organized over the middle of the nation and it will move east quickly, passing just south of Long Island tomorrow night. Any change in the storm track to the north or to the south will also adjust the snow belt the same amount of distance. Right now it appears that an average of 6 inches will fall in the Concord area with higher amounts south of there, and lesser amounts to the north. I would say 4 inches as an average for the lake. Boston and Hartford will get a foot out of this one. I agree with R2B, keep your eyes on Sunday night. The combination of heavy snow and extreme cold that we are expecting in the next week should be a VERY good thing for the NH ski economy with Christmas vacation coming up, and this is a make-or-break time of year for the ski areas. The extreme cold that will occupy us in between snowstorms will allow the ski areas to blast their slopes with their own snow on top of what falls.

12-19-2008, 01:28 PM	#9
CanisLupusArctos Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Center Harbor Posts: 1,049 Thanks: 15 Thanked 472 Times in 107 Posts	Winter Storm Warning The National Weather Service put the lakes region in an expanded winter storm warning for this storm tonight. I am now expecting an average of 7 inches along the southern side of the lake, and 5 inches along the north side of the lake. The jackpot is going to be south of the MA border for this one, where more than a foot will fall in many areas.

12-17-2008, 08:36 AM	#4
NHKathy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moultonborough when I can / RI Posts: 699 Thanks: 180 Thanked 38 Times in 22 Posts	It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas, on every webcam I see....... (Just a messy, sloppy, rainy mix down here in RI )

12-17-2008, 10:46 AM	#5
KingPrat Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sounds awesome! Hopefully they'll be able to get the groomers out and get those snowmobile trails looking pristine! I'll be up the weekend after New Years! Can't wait!!!!!

12-18-2008, 07:03 AM	#6
dpg Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,560 Thanks: 149 Thanked 229 Times in 166 Posts	Just makes me want to see Feb '09 come even quicker, when I go on a warm cruise for a week. I hate snow.

12-19-2008, 01:57 PM	#10
SteveA Deceased Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gilford, NH Posts: 2,311 Thanks: 1,070 Thanked 2,054 Times in 497 Posts	A jackpot they don't need down there Lots of folks in the Nashua/Milford/Amherst are still have no power. I hope this isn't a heavy wet snow, the crews and the familys really could use a little break from Mother Nature. __________________ "Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry he'll be a mile away and barefoot!" unknown

12-19-2008, 07:17 PM	#12
CanisLupusArctos Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Center Harbor Posts: 1,049 Thanks: 15 Thanked 472 Times in 107 Posts	This is a very dry fluffy snow. Temp is now 11 at Black Cat, and falling. Still several more hours of snow to come. The snow is a good insulator, once on the roof in the right amount. Those without power will be able to use temporary heat sources more efficiently with snow on the roof to help hold the heat in. Snow has a lot of air whipped into it, and the air pockets provide the insulation. The radio announced that power crews were working through this storm to get power back from the ice storm. SIDE NOTE: This snow falling in the lake water has brought the weather station's water temp down to 32 at the 2-foot depth. The probe at 10 feet down is now 35. That is what the winter temp profile looks like when it's frozen, which means all the lake has to do now is sit still, and it will freeze. Tomorrow I am forecasting a high of 18 for the lakes region, which will cool the water even more. It will be windy, which won't let the water sit still. But it should be ready to freeze very quickly as soon as it does.

12-20-2008, 06:36 PM	#13
CanisLupusArctos Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Center Harbor Posts: 1,049 Thanks: 15 Thanked 472 Times in 107 Posts	Winter Storm Warning A strong coastal storm will hug the northeast coast of the US as it moves past our area Sunday night. It will spread snow over the lakes region by midday Sunday and the snow will quickly become heavy. Heavy snow will fall for several hours on Sunday evening. This storm will create near-blizzard conditions in areas exposed to the wind, especially after the storm passes closest to us on Sunday night. Wind will shift into the west at that time and may gust to 50 mph. With powdery snow expected, the wind will create snowdrifts and blowing snow may reduce visibility to zero for a few seconds at a time. The National Weather Service is advising that travel on Sunday afternoon and evening be curtailed except in an emergency. If you must set out, be prepared to get stuck. Carry the items you would need in order to camp in your car until you are rescued... as well as a reliable form of communication for calling help. Temperatures will be dropping into the single numbers on Sunday night with very windy weather. Things will not warm up much on Monday and the wind will continue. The high temperature on Monday will likely be around 10 degrees. Light snow will continue as residual moisture hangs around in the wake of the departing storm. West-facing slopes could get another 4 or 5 inches on Monday. Other areas may see another inch or two.

12-21-2008, 12:28 PM	#14
Resident 2B Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: North Shore, MA Posts: 1,352 Thanks: 987 Thanked 310 Times in 161 Posts	Intense Storm This is going to be a major storm. As CLA mentioned last evening, this is not a time to be out and about. This is from the NWS at about noon today: MODERATE TO HEAVY SNOW HAS OVERSPREAD THE AREA LATE THIS MORNING WITH ACCUMULATING SNOW OF ABOUT AN INCH PER HOUR. TEMPERATURES REMAINED VERY COLD WITH READINGS IN THE SINGLE NUMBERS. WINDS WERE NORTHEAST 5 TO 15 MPH. OVER THE NEXT FEW HOURS A FURTHER DETERIORATION IN CONDITIONS WILL CONTINUE TO OCCUR AS THE STORM DEEPENS OFFSHORE AND SPREADS INTENSE SNOWFALL RATES OF ONE TO THREE INCHES PER HOUR ACROSS THE REGION. WINDS WILL ALSO INCREASE AND BECOME GUSTY RESTRICTING VISIBILITIES TO NEAR ZERO AT TIMES AND WILL CREATE CONSIDERABLE BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW. NEAR BLIZZARD CONDITIONS CAN BE EXPECTED AT TIMES...ESPECIALLY IN OPEN AREAS. ANY TRAVEL IS STRONGLY DISCOURAGED FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE DAY AS THIS DANGEROUS STORM CONTINUES TO INTENSIFY. UNNECESSARY TRAVEL SHOULD BE AVOIDED. IF YOU MUST TRAVEL...DRIVE WITH EXTREME CAUTION AND ALLOW PLENTY OF TIME TO REACH YOUR DESTINATION. BRING ALONG A WINTER SURVIVAL KIT TO INCLUDE EXTRA WARM CLOTHING AND FOOD IN CASE YOU GET STRANDED. Be Safe, Everyone! R2B

12-21-2008, 03:33 PM	#15
Lakegeezer Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Moultonboro, NH Posts: 1,657 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 342 Thanked 618 Times in 278 Posts	Out to sea? At 3:30 on Sunday, its not really that bad. Only 3-4" so far and visibility is pretty good. Is this storm going too quickly out to sea or is it going to move back in on us and give us the foot we are looking for? __________________ -lg

12-21-2008, 04:11 PM	#17
Misty Blue Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 658 Thanks: 121 Thanked 283 Times in 98 Posts	Why do we stay here? You know what they say about Winter in the Lakes Region... It's the snow that brings 'em, but it's the slush that keeps 'em! Misty Blue.

12-21-2008, 05:30 PM	#19
Resident 2B Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: North Shore, MA Posts: 1,352 Thanks: 987 Thanked 310 Times in 161 Posts	Update The back edge of the snow is now close to the lakes region. Therefore, the snow may stop sooner than I had been thinking. It will get windy and the snow will blow, but it is looking like 12"+ may not happen. R2B

12-21-2008, 10:42 PM	#21
CanisLupusArctos Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Center Harbor Posts: 1,049 Thanks: 15 Thanked 472 Times in 107 Posts	At 10:30 pm on Black Cat Island, the snow total is 9.0 inches for the day. There is light snow and blowing snow. Snow depth is 14 inches. I agree with R2B on less than 12 inches, although it's possible that with residual moisture left over from the storm, we may get a couple more inches through noon tomorrow. The reason is that the storm drew a little farther south than anticipated, which has brought the heaviest snow belt just a few miles south and east of here. Rochester at 6 pm was reporting 14 inches and they've had a lot more snow since then.

12-22-2008, 07:22 AM	#22
twoplustwo Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 456 Thanks: 51 Thanked 39 Times in 21 Posts	unofficial back yard results Fearing a wet and heavy snow, my husband had cleared off all of our roof surfaces prior to this one hitting. The roofed entryway to our basement at the back of our house, a spot fairly well protected from wind, has us at 16.5" here in M'Boro. I am off of Bean Rd., can spit the distance to the Center Harbor line, and am about equal distances from the 3 lakes, for location specifics. There's my entirely unscientific measurement. It is gorgeous out there! I am off to snap some digi pics and send them south to Philly and Jersey to make all of my relatives (who are currently rain-soaked) completely jealous.