Dollar General? Mboro

[CAVU]

Does anyone know if that tree clearing on RTE 25 near the school is for that Dollar General?

[DesertDweller]

Can't say for sure, but the abutting parcel of land is for sale and the listing specifically states that the lot is subject to a restriction that it can't be used for a store similar to Dollar General.

[Paugus bay girl]

We do not need another store anywhere around here, especially a dollar store, there's already too many.

[Lakegeezer]

Yup, get your dollars ready. The General is coming to town. The building plans were approved after many conditions were met even with lingering doubt that, built in wetlands, its water runoff plan will actually work as engineered. In the end, there was no way to stop DG's corporate lawyers. Hopefully the town learned that designating commercial zones in wetlands wasn't the best idea.

[JADAQ]

Originally Posted by Paugus bay girl

We do not need another store anywhere around here, especially a dollar store, there's already too many.

I drive for a living, I see a dollar store in nearly every town I go through... Pretty sad!

[Doobs41378]

Originally Posted by JADAQ

I drive for a living, I see a dollar store in nearly every town I go through... Pretty sad!

They have been popping up a lot of places. There is a new one in Barnstead, Raymond and Tamworth. I have never been in one so cannot comment on what they are like, I do know it will not really fit in with the landscape right there across from the school.

[longislander]

Does anyone know if that tree clearing on RTE 25 near the school is for that Dollar General?

Yes it is!

Wait till the Select Board tries, again, to put "the gym" a little bit east of the store on Rt. 25.

[eyenotall777]

Originally Posted by Doobs41378

They have been popping up a lot of places. There is a new one in Barnstead, Raymond and Tamworth. I have never been in one so cannot comment on what they are like, I do know it will not really fit in with the landscape right there across from the school.

Add Alton to that as well, basically along RT 28 from Epsom Traffic Circle to Alton Traffic Circle, there are 3

[rsmlp]

They have every right to apply for and having been approved by the town to build a store. If you oppose, DON'T SHOP THERE.

This is "Live free or die" right?

[8gv]

I am surprised to read the opinion that the proliferation of Dollar General stores is sad. Their products are sold to meet the demands of consumers. Their stores provide jobs in the communities they serve. The real estate taxes paid help the budgets of the towns where they are located.

None of this seems sad to me.

What am I missing?

[noreast]

Originally Posted by 8gv

I am surprised to read the opinion that the proliferation of Dollar General stores is sad. Their products are sold to meet the demands of consumers. Their stores provide jobs in the communities they serve. The real estate taxes paid help the budgets of the towns where they are located.

None of this seems sad to me.

What am I missing?

Right, There just doing what stores do. The sad part is that our country is in a place where these are really the only brick and mortar stores thriving. They probably make a better neighbor than Walmart, At least there taking business away from that hell hole. Whats the answer? we'll never be back to the days of locally owned business's, That horse has left the barn unfortunately.

[upthesaukee]

While Dollar General stores have a few items for a doll2, they are not a "dollar store". They are more a convenience store, similar to a 7-11 and Walmart that merged. They have food, clothing, hardware, and have long hours each day, and can save time and expenses of driving 10 -15 miles to a large supermarket or Walmart. Not for everyone, but they will have a niche in each of their markets. As some posted already, if you are opposed to them, don't shop there. Pretty simple.

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[Outdoorsman]

Originally Posted by noreast

Right, There just doing what stores do. The sad part is that our country is in a place where these are really the only brick and mortar stores thriving. They probably make a better neighbor than Walmart, At least there taking business away from that hell hole. Whats the answer? we'll never be back to the days of locally owned business's, That horse has left the barn unfortunately.

I certainly agree that these are the stores thriving VS locally owned and operated stores. I am not convinced that dollar stores are any better (or worse) than Walmart. They both sell imported (read cheap) product. And, from what I have read, Walmart (and most other chain stores) do quite a lot for the communities that they operate in.

[thinkxingu]

Dollar stores are like panhandlers--if you want them to go away, stop giving them money.

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[Flylady]

Dollar General employees a minimum number of people at minimum wage. Sells very cheap products from China. According to google they have been challenged for selling contaminated products from China.

Each community should ask what is the impact to the local family owned stores? Seems to me that if the family business can't make it against the competition of these chains, then there is a zero sum gain for the community in the form of taxes and employment.....just sayin.

[phoenix]

there are no family owned stores in Moultonborough. I am not saying I am happy with this but agree if you don't like it don't shop there .

[wifi]

Laconia, here we come....

[8gv]

If DG employs a "minimum number of people at minimum wage" and these folks were actually hired, does that not imply that, for these folks, there are no better alternative jobs for them?

[VitaBene]

Originally Posted by phoenix

there are no family owned stores in Moultonborough. I am not saying I am happy with this but agree if you don't like it don't shop there .

that certainly is not true... Skelley's, 2 stores owned by Richard Murphy, Lamprey's Village Corner, the former Fuller's (was Tedeschi but sold to a family), the Country store, and Beyond Obsession are all locally owned.

However, I agree that we all can choose to vote with our feet!

[Doobs41378]

But if you vote with your feet and do not go there and they go out of business then you are left with an abandoned eye sore. You see a lot of these empty building or strip malls around the state unfortunately.

[tis]

Not to stand up for DG but when Dunkin' Donuts went in Wolfeboro the planning board did everything in their power to try to stop them. After two years they finally got their approvals and now that place is so busy, it amazes me every time I go by. The people of the town certainly seemed to want it even if the people who run the town didn't.

[fatlazyless]

Have only been inside a Dollar General once, up in Littleton, NH, and left without buying anything. Why go to a Dollar General or a Dollar Tree?

So, other than a possible more convenient Dollar General location, isn't shopping Wal-Mart, Hannaford's and Lowe's a totally better place to spend your dollar! Wal-Mart and Lowe's have easy to do, return policies, and chances are the Dollar General does not.

Why, even Hannaford's once let me return a defective grapefruit with a bad navel, and gave me about 8-dollars or something for the whole bag of ten grapefruits .... and I got to keep the nine good grapefruits ..... made me feel like Donald J. Trump .... just imagine that..... Hannaford's ....whoopeeee!

[jetlag100]

The "don't shop there" if you don't like it is fine, but, I have a problem with the fact that, all these buildings go up, and when they fail, or decide to move the location (build again), we're left with an abandoned building...IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME!...Build the store, but if it fails, make them take it down, and let nature resume it's place......Oh, and while I'm at it, make it look like it belongs...a little rustic won't hurt a damn thing!

[Flylady]

DG leases the building from a large developer. The developer hopes to have the ongoing rent to cover costs. When the tenant leaves the building remains empty if they can not find another tenant. About the building blending into local architecture......only will happen if the town has existing requirements in effect through building codes and does not approve requested variances.

For towns that do not want the proliferation of Dollar General in areas not suited for this type of building...look at what is happening in Wakefield NH

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1497...?ref=bookmarks

[WINNOCTURN]

Originally Posted by upthesaukee

While Dollar General stores have a few items for a doll2, they are not a "dollar store". They are more a convenience store, similar to a 7-11 and Walmart that merged. They have food, clothing, hardware, and have long hours each day, and can save time and expenses of driving 10 -15 miles to a large supermarket or Walmart. Not for everyone, but they will have a niche in each of their markets. As some posted already, if you are opposed to them, don't shop there. Pretty simple.

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Say a year or 2 from now when the "TOWN" does not SUPORT this Business, we can convert it into our New Community Center.

And you all thought the selectmen and town planners did not have our best interest in mind when they approved this project.

[phoenix]

what I meant to say there are no local family owned stores that would likely compete with Dg for business at least on any large scale.

[noreast]

Originally Posted by Outdoorsman

I certainly agree that these are the stores thriving VS locally owned and operated stores. I am not convinced that dollar stores are any better (or worse) than Walmart. They both sell imported (read cheap) product. And, from what I have read, Walmart (and most other chain stores) do quite a lot for the communities that they operate in.

I think you may have to read up on walmart. After they put out every local mom and pop (in many communities in rural America that's all there were) Then they hire those people at pennies on the dollar of what they use to make. Many communities want them to go away after they destroy there local economy. And lately they've been doing just that further damaging the area since there now the sole bulk employer. They do the same with there vendors by demanding an exclusive contract, then use that leverage to get the price they want, Leading to further squeezing of the vendors employees. They were getting so much backlash that they finally gave in to the pressure and went to a higher minimum wage. The profits were way down only do to there perception as socially the worst company in the world.

[Acrossamerica]

Do you remember how every town had a General Store and how when they died people were so upset. Well, welcome back the in town General Store. Just because it doesn't have creaky old floors and dusty shelves and offers three month old biscuits as many of the surviving general stores do, does not make them bad places. They are your in town general store of 2016. Enjoy. And in 50 years they will have acquired all of the dusty charm of the few old general stores currently left over from the last era.

[Acrossamerica]

Originally Posted by Flylady

DG leases the building from a large developer. The developer hopes to have the ongoing rent to cover costs. When the tenant leaves the building remains empty if they can not find another tenant. About the building blending into local architecture......only will happen if the town has existing requirements in effect through building codes and does not approve requested variances.

For towns that do not want the proliferation of Dollar General in areas not suited for this type of building...look at what is happening in Wakefield NH

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1497...?ref=bookmarks

With so many women getting tattoos these days, if the dollar store goes out of business there will be a tattoo artist willing to take over and they can bring in a toe nail specialist to share the space.

[Flylady]

Sure......and what would they use the rest of the 5000 sq foot building for?

[WINNOCTURN]

Originally Posted by flylady

sure......and what would they use the rest of the 5000 sq foot building for?

the new community center and indoor basketball court for the "children"

[longislander]

Say a year or 2 from now when the "TOWN" does not SUPORT this Business, we can convert it into our New Community Center.

And you all thought the selectmen and town planners did not have our best interest in mind when they approved this project.

THE NEW COMMUNITY CENTER AND INDOOR BASKETBALL COURT FOR THE "CHILDREN"

Town of Moultonborough
New Hampshire
Board of Selectmen
2017 Goals July 26, 2016

"Goal #9
Look at Possible Construction Phasing of a New Community Center in Village"

Translated: try the gym AGAIN at the Taylor property, and see if the fools cannot see thru it.

So call the gym a community center ... like before!


http://www.moultonboroughnh.gov/site...2616_draft.pdf

[Lakeboater]

The dollar general stores are one of the most poorly constructed buildings I have seen. Ever notice how fast they go up....like Alton and Barnstead. Not block building but rather panels. The one in Barnstead is right next to the closed Barnstead Country Store.

[SAMIAM]

I've noticed when traveling that any of the dollar stores are usually close to a pawn shop and bail bonds office........don't see them in nicer areas.

[mcdude]

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[upthesaukee]

Originally Posted by SAMIAM

I've noticed when traveling that any of the dollar stores are usually close to a pawn shop and bail bonds office........don't see them in nicer areas.

Not in Alton or Barnstead; no pawn shops, no bail bond agent officers.

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[Bigstan]

Originally Posted by SAMIAM

I've noticed when traveling that any of the dollar stores are usually close to a pawn shop and bail bonds office........don't see them in nicer areas.

I have never seen a bail bonds office. I know where one pawn shop is - right off exit 20. I can tell you where a dozen dollar stores are.

This didn't ring true to me the 1st time you posted it, and it doesn't make sense to me now. If they fail then they fail, they aren't going to bring a chain of bail bondsmen, criminals, and pawn shops with them. Please.....

[jbolty]

Bail bond offices cluster around where the jail is located and even then only in fairly large cities.

[phoenix]

Is it going to be on the same side of 25 as the school or across the street?

[Doobs41378]

Originally Posted by phoenix

Is it going to be on the same side of 25 as the school or across the street?

Across the street.

[Gavia immer]

IIRC, most of the generic "dollar stores" are now under one corporate boss. Only "Dollar Tree" has items for exactly one dollar, which helps the consumer when shopping for regular known items. And no sales tax in NH.

You know when your community is in decline when you have pawn shops AND billboards that announce, "Had an Accident?"

[SAMIAM]

My remark about dollar stores,pawn shops and bail bondsmen was meant to be tongue in cheek but in other parts of the country these are usually signs of a declining neighborhood.

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by SAMIAM

My remark about dollar stores,pawn shops and bail bondsmen was meant to be tongue in cheek but in other parts of the country these are usually signs of a declining neighborhood.

Made perfect sense--pawn shops don't operate in places that can afford not to sell their possessions for dimes on the dollar. I'm in southern NH, and when the recession hit, title loan and pawn shops popped up in a bunch of places--Hudson, Nashua, even Merrimack. Now that the economy has started to bounce back, they're mostly gone.

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[phoenix]

I lived in Groton ma for a couple of years . A very old beautiful colonial town. Sometime likely in 60's they allowed a strip mall to go in place of an original structure in the downtown area . It still looks out of character with the town and that will neve change