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Old 07-10-2018, 05:56 PM   #1
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Weíll be out tomorrow before sunrise to try for salmon again.
Stopped in at AJís to replace a couple lost lures and asked there...Alan wasnít there but the guy there said to fish 40í down now.
Can anyone confirm this depth? Really jonesing to hook into a salmon this summer!
I see plenty of beautiful salmon pics on the fish Winni Facebook page but no one really gives too much info on whatís producing and where...
I always share my depths and lure info (if I catch anything)
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Old 07-10-2018, 07:16 PM   #2
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Depth depends on the time of day... early morning before sunrise they can be a little shallower but still in colder water (no less than 15 feet) but if you troll around 20 - 30 feet you should be where you need to be.

Far as lures go I have had my best luck this year with a gold/copper top gun with a blaze orange edge and yellow/green spots on it. I do lead core not down riggers, about 7 - 8 colors out this time of year at a trolling speed of about 1.5 - 2.0 MPH as my GPS reports.

Fish the drop offs and where there are underwater variations fish like to stack in the column along these changes in depths. If they are there you should have some luck.
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Old 07-10-2018, 07:19 PM   #3
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Great info! Thank you! If Iím lucky Iíll post pics!
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Old 07-10-2018, 07:29 PM   #4
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We’ll be out tomorrow before sunrise to try for salmon again.
Stopped in at AJ’s to replace a couple lost lures and asked there...Alan wasn’t there but the guy there said to fish 40’ down now.
Can anyone confirm this depth? Really jonesing to hook into a salmon this summer!
I see plenty of beautiful salmon pics on the fish Winni Facebook page but no one really gives too much info on what’s producing and where...
I always share my depths and lure info (if I catch anything)
I would be fishing at 30’ right now. If your using down riggers be sure to adjust for blowback based on the weight of your ball, IE an 8 lb ball set at 33’. If your using lead put out a full 6 colors fully in the water. A few feet too high or low will reduce your chances greatly. I am giving you this info based on the water temp readings I took throughout the water column over 100’ of water. Also If you have and know how to use attractors, use them! 2.2 mph works for me...

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I would be fishing at 30’ right now. If your using down riggers be sure to adjust for blowback based on the weight of your ball, IE an 8 lb ball set at 33’. If your using lead put out a full 6 colors fully in the water. A few feet too high or low will reduce your chances greatly. I am giving you this info based on the water temp readings I took throughout the water column over 100’ of water. Also If you have and know how to use attractors, use them! 2.2 mph works for me...

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Dan, if you are targeting 30' would you expect fish on the depthfinder to be at 30' also or below that? IOW do you troll right into the fish level or above them?
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Dan, if you are targeting 30' would you expect fish on the depthfinder to be at 30' also or below that? IOW do you troll right into the fish level or above them?
Thatís a great question, I always target the very top of the thermocline this time of year. Fish see whatís above them that is why they swim up towards their food never down. The thermocline isnít that thick so if your fishing at the top of it, I feel your increasing your odds of more fish seeing whatever it is your presenting. The bait fish are in the thermocline and thatís where the salmon will be feeding. Sure, you may catch one on the surface during a hatch but the majority of them will be feeding in the thermocline on other bait fish. Most of those fish you see rising on calm mornings during a hatch are rainbows anyways, they donít mind the warm water as much and they are fun to catch!

I honestly donít use my fish finder to find or locate salmon this time of year, I use it more to see when something is in my attractors directly below the boat or to locate pods of bait fish very early in the morning. I definitely use the finder when targeting lakers though.

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Thank you! Awesome info.
Just lead core, no downriggers.
What about water depth? Can I be in 40-50-60 FOW and still fish that thermocline or am I better off trolling in the deeper troughs?
Iím such a newbie at this...I really appreciate the knowledge!
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Thank you! Awesome info.
Just lead core, no downriggers.
What about water depth? Can I be in 40-50-60 FOW and still fish that thermocline or am I better off trolling in the deeper troughs?
Iím such a newbie at this...I really appreciate the knowledge!
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Old 07-11-2018, 10:21 AM   #10
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I thought lead was banned because it was toxic to Loons?
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I thought lead was banned because it was toxic to Loons?
Those are lead sinkers. Lead core line is braided on the outside with a thin string of lead down the center. I suppose it's possible but highly unlikely any lead core line could end up in the water. The leaders most of use (not lead core) will break well before lead core line could.

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I thought lead was banned because it was toxic to Loons?
Only Lead sinkers or jigs that are 1 ounce or less is prohibited....
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Hillcountry, FYI: The tips you got from MAXUM and ishooot308 are spot on. A lot of valuable info in those posts. The only tip I would add is that at this time of year go with smaller/shorter hardware and flies. Early season salmon chase adult smelt, this time of year they are chasing young of the year smelt (yoy). See Alan for the hot short flies (single hooks) and the hardware, he's the best around. Good luck!
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Well, it was not a good day fishing (salmon wise anyway...)
No bites at all from before sunrise until I caught a dink smallie around 10am at the beginning of the broads heading toward rattlesnake from Ragged where we stopped to let the pooch run and cool off. Halfway across the broads still heading for rattlesnake, I caught a decent smallie about 2 lbs...sent him back down.
Then the same rod with a Meredith Special tandem went off and in came a short but very fat Rainbow. That was encouraging but alas the last fish caught.
Trolled all day with 6 colors out and tried 5 and 7 colors from time to time.
Fatigue was setting in by 2pm so we picked up and headed in.
Thanks for all the advice!
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Keep at it they will come, there are not too many places as beautiful as Winni to have a bad fishing day!
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Keep at it they will come, there are not too many places as beautiful as Winni to have a bad fishing day!
You got that right!
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Hillcountry, FYI: The tips you got from MAXUM and ishooot308 are spot on. A lot of valuable info in those posts. The only tip I would add is that at this time of year go with smaller/shorter hardware and flies. Early season salmon chase adult smelt, this time of year they are chasing young of the year smelt (yoy). See Alan for the hot short flies (single hooks) and the hardware, he's the best around. Good luck!
Lol last couple of times I stopped in there he wasnít there...not sure if the ďother guyĒ there knows his stuff...
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