Go Back   Winnipesaukee Forum > Winnipesaukee Forums > Restaurant Information & Reviews
Home Forums Gallery Blogs YouTube Channel Classifieds Links Calendar Register FAQDonate Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-30-2019, 07:35 AM   #201
The Real BigGuy
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 569
Thanks: 17
Thanked 161 Times in 102 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kawishiwi View Post
I don't like cancer either. But I've never actually had it so you think I should withhold judgement about cancer being bad until I actually experience it?

Seriously.
Seriously! Nice comparison. Did you have to think long and hard to come up with the comparatives?


Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
The Real BigGuy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2019, 11:24 AM   #202
thinkxingu
Senior Member
 
thinkxingu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 2,452
Thanks: 657
Thanked 674 Times in 395 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Real BigGuy View Post
Seriously! Nice comparison. Did you have to think long and hard to come up with the comparatives?


Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
I also don't like cancer. Or The Dive.

Actually, my only issue with The Dive is when it is not, as I would define, neighborly. Anchoring out all day, every day in one place infringed on people's use of that resource.

The hot dog cart in a state park analogy is apt--I made a similar point a year or so ago.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
thinkxingu is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to thinkxingu For This Useful Post:
joey2665 (06-30-2019)
Old 06-30-2019, 03:36 PM   #203
Phantom
Senior Member
 
Phantom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Hudson, Ma / Gilford
Posts: 1,763
Thanks: 340
Thanked 517 Times in 295 Posts
Default

Information I have is that the Dive will be at Lakeshore Park this Thursday 7/5(weather permitting) !!

I believe it is in conjunction with events they hold over the 4th.
__________________
A bad day on the Big Lake (although I've never had one) - Still beats a day at the office!!
Phantom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2019, 09:19 AM   #204
Slickcraft
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Welch Island and West Alton
Posts: 2,548
Thanks: 808
Thanked 1,394 Times in 643 Posts
Default

On the move heading south
Attached Images
 
Slickcraft is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2019, 04:04 PM   #205
thinkxingu
Senior Member
 
thinkxingu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 2,452
Thanks: 657
Thanked 674 Times in 395 Posts
Default

West Alton today. Hideous, and takes up a LOT of room. It appeared to have customers, though, so clearly some people like it. At least we were able to set up far away from it.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
thinkxingu is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 07-01-2019, 07:49 PM   #206
gravy boat
Senior Member
 
gravy boat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Gilford yr round, W. Alton and Bears' Den for summers
Posts: 428
Thanks: 266
Thanked 100 Times in 48 Posts
Default The Dive

Thankfully the lake is large enough that anybody who wishes to not see the Dive or be near it can simply go elsewhere. Plenty of room...many calm coves. Kind of like turning the channel on the TV if you don't like a show.

For lakefront owners who complain about it being so busy or people anchoring in front of their property - there is always the option to sell your Winni property and buy a place on Squam or Winnisquam that may better suit your speed.

Not being disrespectful - just pointing out what I see as viable options for those who don't like the Dive or how busy the lake is nowadays.

It's a busy lake - we are all lucky to be here and able to enjoy it.

gravy boat is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to gravy boat For This Useful Post:
BroadHopper (07-11-2019), HellRaZoR004 (07-01-2019), Mr. V (07-01-2019), Shreddy (07-02-2019), The Real BigGuy (07-01-2019), Top-Water (07-01-2019)
Old 07-01-2019, 09:43 PM   #207
Top-Water
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Derry-Belmont
Posts: 695
Thanks: 432
Thanked 271 Times in 152 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gravy boat View Post
It's a busy lake - we are all lucky to be here and able to enjoy it.
And thank you for that statement.
Top-Water is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Top-Water For This Useful Post:
gravy boat (07-02-2019)
Old 07-02-2019, 02:51 PM   #208
FlyingScot
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Tuftonboro and Sudbury, MA
Posts: 546
Thanks: 291
Thanked 150 Times in 95 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gravy boat View Post
Thankfully the lake is large enough that anybody who wishes to not see the Dive or be near it can simply go elsewhere. Plenty of room...many calm coves. Kind of like turning the channel on the TV if you don't like a show.

For lakefront owners who complain about it being so busy or people anchoring in front of their property - there is always the option to sell your Winni property and buy a place on Squam or Winnisquam that may better suit your speed.

Not being disrespectful - just pointing out what I see as viable options for those who don't like the Dive or how busy the lake is nowadays.

It's a busy lake - we are all lucky to be here and able to enjoy it.

Sort of--

Good points on it being a big/busy lake and all of us being lucky. But the flip side is that all of us should be mindful of not too having too much impact on others, just in terms of manners. This Dive skeptic is not so much concerned about one Dive as about the potential for a dozen more. And that would make the lake feel smaller and the chances of finding that smaller cove more remote.

Also, I have not looked recently, but at any given time there are typically no more than a handful of properties available on all of Squam, and their prices are stratospheric, and I'm not sure many of us would think of Winnisquam as a rough equivalent to Winnipesaukee. So these are not realistic alternatives.
FlyingScot is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to FlyingScot For This Useful Post:
ApS (07-02-2019), Newbiesaukee (07-02-2019)
Old 07-02-2019, 06:50 PM   #209
gravy boat
Senior Member
 
gravy boat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Gilford yr round, W. Alton and Bears' Den for summers
Posts: 428
Thanks: 266
Thanked 100 Times in 48 Posts
Default The Dive

Doubtful there would be a market for a dozen more like the Dive.

It's a big lake - but I don't see the traffic for another floating bar/restaurant that operates for only 3 months of the year. Maybe where it's warm all year round...but not NH.

Time will tell if the Dive makes enough to stay afloat.
gravy boat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2019, 09:17 PM   #210
webmaster
Moderator
 
webmaster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 2,172
Blog Entries: 1
Thanks: 319
Thanked 2,745 Times in 647 Posts
Default

This just in...
Attached Images
   
webmaster is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to webmaster For This Useful Post:
Barney Bear (07-23-2019)
Old 07-04-2019, 07:09 AM   #211
chachee52
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Tyngsboro, MA and Gilford, NH
Posts: 120
Thanks: 0
Thanked 15 Times in 11 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phantom View Post
Information I have is that the Dive will be at Lakeshore Park this Thursday 7/5(weather permitting) !!

I believe it is in conjunction with events they hold over the 4th.
It will be there tomorrow, July 5th all day. Its supposed to tie up to Big Pier wind depending.
Feel bad for the camps right there. Its supposed to be a LSP only thing but I'm curious how they are going to stop boats from anchoring in front of the park?
chachee52 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2019, 10:49 AM   #212
joey2665
Senior Member
 
joey2665's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Meredith Bay & LI, NY
Posts: 2,155
Thanks: 447
Thanked 543 Times in 367 Posts
Default

Nice article about the Dive!!!

https://www.onlyinyourstate.com/new-...restaurant-nh/


Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
joey2665 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to joey2665 For This Useful Post:
granitebox (07-11-2019)
Old 07-10-2019, 11:18 AM   #213
Biggd
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Waltham Ma./Meredith NH
Posts: 1,853
Thanks: 533
Thanked 355 Times in 245 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by joey2665 View Post
Nice article about the Dive!!!

https://www.onlyinyourstate.com/new-...restaurant-nh/


Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
Looking at the overhead picture of that cluster**** at the sand bar is enough to keep me far, far, away.
Biggd is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Biggd For This Useful Post:
jbolty (07-10-2019)
Old 07-10-2019, 11:48 AM   #214
Slickcraft
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Welch Island and West Alton
Posts: 2,548
Thanks: 808
Thanked 1,394 Times in 643 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by joey2665 View Post
Nice article about the Dive!!!

https://www.onlyinyourstate.com/new-...restaurant-nh/


Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
Looks like it needs a 1,000 gal + holding tank with overnight pump out service
Slickcraft is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2019, 11:56 AM   #215
joey2665
Senior Member
 
joey2665's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Meredith Bay & LI, NY
Posts: 2,155
Thanks: 447
Thanked 543 Times in 367 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggd View Post
Looking at the overhead picture of that cluster**** at the sand bar is enough to keep me far, far, away.
I do not think so at all. I believe if we were all a bit younger it would be a regular hang out for us. Not my thing now but 15 years ago absolutely.
joey2665 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to joey2665 For This Useful Post:
Biggd (07-10-2019)
Old 07-10-2019, 12:00 PM   #216
Garcia
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 203
Thanks: 38
Thanked 83 Times in 54 Posts
Default It's not for me, but feel free to enjoy it

I prefer to get away from the crowds when I'm at the Lake, hence sandbars - and the Dive - are not my cup of tea. For those of you who find it fun, enjoy!
Garcia is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Garcia For This Useful Post:
Biggd (07-10-2019)
Old 07-10-2019, 12:39 PM   #217
Biggd
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Waltham Ma./Meredith NH
Posts: 1,853
Thanks: 533
Thanked 355 Times in 245 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by joey2665 View Post
I do not think so at all. I believe if we were all a bit younger it would be a regular hang out for us. Not my thing now but 15 years ago absolutely.
That's exactly the reason I would stay far away! I probably would visit if I was younger but I would never be a regular there at any age. Just not what I go to the lake for.
Biggd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2019, 12:43 PM   #218
Biggd
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Waltham Ma./Meredith NH
Posts: 1,853
Thanks: 533
Thanked 355 Times in 245 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Slickcraft View Post
Looks like it needs a 1,000 gal + holding tank with overnight pump out service
I doubt everyone is using the bathroom facilities. It's pretty nasty if you really think about it. You're swimming around in pee!
Biggd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2019, 12:56 PM   #219
The Real BigGuy
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 569
Thanks: 17
Thanked 161 Times in 102 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by joey2665 View Post
I do not think so at all. I believe if we were all a bit younger it would be a regular hang out for us. Not my thing now but 15 years ago absolutely.


but maybe 30 (or 40) years ago


Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
The Real BigGuy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2019, 01:03 PM   #220
brk-lnt
Senior Member
 
brk-lnt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: South Down Shores
Posts: 1,814
Thanks: 484
Thanked 526 Times in 301 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggd View Post
I doubt everyone is using the bathroom facilities. It's pretty nasty if you really think about it. You're swimming around in pee!
The Braun Bay area would be about 500,000 cubic feet of water area (~800'x200'x3' deep).

There are 7.48 gallons of water in 1 ft^3.

Thus there is over 3.7 million gallons of water in the Braun Bay area alone.

Let's assume you have 1,000 people there, and they each pee .5 gallons over the course of the day, that 500 gallons / 3.7M gallons, or a diluted amount of .013% pee.

That is of course not accounting for any additional dilution caused from currents through the area (natural, or just caused by boat movement).

Meh, not really in my Top 10 list of concerns about a sandbar.
__________________
[insert witty phrase here]
brk-lnt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2019, 01:11 PM   #221
Biggd
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Waltham Ma./Meredith NH
Posts: 1,853
Thanks: 533
Thanked 355 Times in 245 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by brk-lnt View Post
The Braun Bay area would be about 500,000 cubic feet of water area (~800'x200'x3' deep).

There are 7.48 gallons of water in 1 ft^3.

Thus there is over 3.7 million gallons of water in the Braun Bay area alone.

Let's assume you have 1,000 people there, and they each pee .5 gallons over the course of the day, that 500 gallons / 3.7M gallons, or a diluted amount of .013% pee.

That is of course not accounting for any additional dilution caused from currents through the area (natural, or just caused by boat movement).

Meh, not really in my Top 10 list of concerns about a sandbar.
You would conclude that but they close beaches down for duck itch and I think there are far fewer ducks going in the water around the beaches than what's going on at that sandbar.
But that's where we have a difference of opinion.
If you're OK with it then have at it, but keep your mouth closed. I'll pass.
Biggd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2019, 04:54 PM   #222
Hillcountry
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: In the hills
Posts: 1,655
Thanks: 847
Thanked 409 Times in 262 Posts
Default

They should rename Braun Bay “Lake Titticacapeepee”
Hillcountry is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Hillcountry For This Useful Post:
JayR (07-11-2019)
Old 07-10-2019, 05:00 PM   #223
Formula260SS
Senior Member
 
Formula260SS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: NH
Posts: 308
Thanks: 8
Thanked 47 Times in 28 Posts
Default

I think my timeline is more like 25 years ago - at least that's when I was hanging around Braun Bay and West Alton as a regular. I don't care how much dilution there is, now I call them Urination Cove Guess I'm an old fart now but have at it if that's what you like. It's all good
Formula260SS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2019, 05:25 PM   #224
Slickcraft
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Welch Island and West Alton
Posts: 2,548
Thanks: 808
Thanked 1,394 Times in 643 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggd View Post
You would conclude that but they close beaches down for duck itch and I think there are far fewer ducks going in the water around the beaches than what's going on at that sandbar.
But that's where we have a difference of opinion.
If you're OK with it then have at it, but keep your mouth closed. I'll pass.

You'll wonder where the yellow went when you brush your teeth with Pepsodent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOhfGezdcXU
Slickcraft is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Slickcraft For This Useful Post:
Barney Bear (07-11-2019)
Old 07-10-2019, 05:52 PM   #225
joey2665
Senior Member
 
joey2665's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Meredith Bay & LI, NY
Posts: 2,155
Thanks: 447
Thanked 543 Times in 367 Posts
Default

Petition to help the Dive stay at the pier after several complaints by a non resident has created issues.

https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https...laZuNm9_On&s=1


Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
joey2665 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to joey2665 For This Useful Post:
brk-lnt (07-11-2019)
Old 07-10-2019, 06:13 PM   #226
FlyingScot
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Tuftonboro and Sudbury, MA
Posts: 546
Thanks: 291
Thanked 150 Times in 95 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by joey2665 View Post
Petition to help the Dive stay at the pier after several complaints by a non resident has created issues.

https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https...laZuNm9_On&s=1


Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
Joey From New York,

Let's not get hung up on complainant being a "nonresident" from Florida (who obviously is spending the whole Summer on the lake).

FlyingScot From Massachusetts
FlyingScot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2019, 06:23 PM   #227
joey2665
Senior Member
 
joey2665's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Meredith Bay & LI, NY
Posts: 2,155
Thanks: 447
Thanked 543 Times in 367 Posts
Default The Dive!

Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingScot View Post
Joey From New York,

Let's not get hung up on complainant being a "nonresident" from Florida (who obviously is spending the whole Summer on the lake).

FlyingScot From Massachusetts
If you know the property like I do then you know it is not occupied by the owner it is a rental property so they are NOT spending any time at the lake.

Also not hung up on it just quoted the article


Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
joey2665 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2019, 08:52 PM   #228
thinkxingu
Senior Member
 
thinkxingu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 2,452
Thanks: 657
Thanked 674 Times in 395 Posts
Default

The "complainer" is not the same person who posted here a few weeks back about his view? I gotta think there is more than one person with an issue, given its orientation?

Sent from my SM-G950U using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
thinkxingu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2019, 06:50 AM   #229
BroadHopper
Senior Member
 
BroadHopper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Laconia NH / Bozeman MO
Posts: 4,809
Thanks: 2,326
Thanked 848 Times in 590 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingScot View Post
Also, I have not looked recently, but at any given time there are typically no more than a handful of properties available on all of Squam, and their prices are stratospheric, and I'm not sure many of us would think of Winnisquam as a rough equivalent to Winnipesaukee. So these are not realistic alternatives.
I lived 40 years on Lake Winnipesaukee, (family since 1892), the property tax went through the roof! I decided to sell the property on The Broad and moved to Lake Winnisquam. Peace at last and affordable. Personally Lake Winnisquam is a better retirement alternative and far better for boating on weekends than Winnipesaukee. Yes, off season, it can't hold a candle to the big lake, but year round Winnisquam has more value.
__________________
Someday may never be an actual day.
BroadHopper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2019, 06:58 AM   #230
BroadHopper
Senior Member
 
BroadHopper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Laconia NH / Bozeman MO
Posts: 4,809
Thanks: 2,326
Thanked 848 Times in 590 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thinkxingu View Post
The "complainer" is not the same person who posted here a few weeks back about his view? I gotta think there is more than one person with an issue, given its orientation?

Sent from my SM-G950U using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
The 'complainer' is in one of those cottages near the Pier, a Florida native, who thinks he own the lake! When he bought the property he must realize he is in a commercial zone, and the lake is for the enjoyment of all, as a lakefront owner I realize this and I don't go fuming if someone casually drove by my property!
BTW, when The Dive settled in, he is far enough away that his view is not effected at all! He's the one been complaining about Biketember Fest, Wake the Lake and the soon to be famous Blues Fest! I think he should start thinking about moving, perhaps to the 'boros?!?!?!?!
__________________
Someday may never be an actual day.
BroadHopper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2019, 07:08 AM   #231
The Real BigGuy
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 569
Thanks: 17
Thanked 161 Times in 102 Posts
Default

The petition said he is stopping gas to 3 businesses. How is this possible? Sounds like Russia stopping gas to some Eastern European countries.


Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
The Real BigGuy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2019, 07:13 AM   #232
Biggd
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Waltham Ma./Meredith NH
Posts: 1,853
Thanks: 533
Thanked 355 Times in 245 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BroadHopper View Post
I lived 40 years on Lake Winnipesaukee, (family since 1892), the property tax went through the roof! I decided to sell the property on The Broad and moved to Lake Winnisquam. Peace at last and affordable. Personally Lake Winnisquam is a better retirement alternative and far better for boating on weekends than Winnipesaukee. Yes, off season, it can't hold a candle to the big lake, but year round Winnisquam has more value.
I had a cottage in Alton Bay on Winni back in the 70's then sold that and built a place on Winnisquam in the 80's.
I loved Winnisquam and looked for another place to buy there but we found a place on Waukewan, which we fell in love with. We've been there 5 years now and I don't think I would ever go back to Winni.
If something came available on Winnisquam in the town of Meredith that was reasonable I would consider it. But I was in Sanbornton and the taxes, just like Laconia, are outrageous, no thanks!
My brother inlaw has a place in Sanbornton with no beach rights, 1/2 the size of my house, 1/2 the size of my land and pays double what I pay in taxes in Meredith.
Biggd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2019, 07:16 AM   #233
thinkxingu
Senior Member
 
thinkxingu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 2,452
Thanks: 657
Thanked 674 Times in 395 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BroadHopper View Post
I lived 40 years on Lake Winnipesaukee, (family since 1892), the property tax went through the roof! I decided to sell the property on The Broad and moved to Lake Winnisquam. Peace at last and affordable. Personally Lake Winnisquam is a better retirement alternative and far better for boating on weekends than Winnipesaukee. Yes, off season, it can't hold a candle to the big lake, but year round Winnisquam has more value.
I've never been on Winnisquam--are there ports/public docks like Winni? Sandbars?

Sent from my SM-G950U using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
thinkxingu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2019, 07:16 AM   #234
wdlincolnjr
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 3
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
Default the dive

comment for Joey I am sorry but you are wrong about the complainers renting their property that the Dive is almost directly in front of they are there almost everyday throughout the year.. although not permanent.The Dive is a major nuisance and unlike what they say their music is NOT ambient and it starts early in the morning and continues all day non stop especially on weekends when you would like to enjoy your property with friends but cant because of a huge billboard with noise overlooking you all day. Imagine paying huge taxes for waterfront property and being able to work from home and having to shut your windows because of for lack of a better word raucous behavior untilpast midnight I think not. The Dive does NOT belong in a residential area but where they claim they were going to be on the lake and hopefully they can see that they affect many people and can try to become good neighbors to all and correct their errors
wdlincolnjr is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to wdlincolnjr For This Useful Post:
jtilds (07-14-2019), Reilly (07-12-2019)
Old 07-11-2019, 07:21 AM   #235
VitaBene
Senior Member
 
VitaBene's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Moultonborough
Posts: 3,122
Thanks: 1,250
Thanked 1,375 Times in 688 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thinkxingu View Post
I've never been on Winnisquam--are there ports/public docks like Winni? Sandbars?

Sent from my SM-G950U using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
There is a restaurant/ dock at the bridge on the right as you head toward Laconia. On the opposite side there is a popular sandbar.
VitaBene is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to VitaBene For This Useful Post:
thinkxingu (07-11-2019)
Old 07-11-2019, 07:23 AM   #236
joey2665
Senior Member
 
joey2665's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Meredith Bay & LI, NY
Posts: 2,155
Thanks: 447
Thanked 543 Times in 367 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wdlincolnjr View Post
comment for Joey I am sorry but you are wrong about the complainers renting their property that the Dive is almost directly in front of they are there almost everyday throughout the year.. although not permanent.The Dive is a major nuisance and unlike what they say their music is NOT ambient and it starts early in the morning and continues all day non stop especially on weekends when you would like to enjoy your property with friends but cant because of a huge billboard with noise overlooking you all day. Imagine paying huge taxes for waterfront property and being able to work from home and having to shut your windows because of for lack of a better word raucous behavior untilpast midnight I think not. The Dive does NOT belong in a residential area but where they claim they were going to be on the lake and hopefully they can see that they affect many people and can try to become good neighbors to all and correct their errors
I’m sorry I disagree and I also own in the area. As long at the Dive is not breaking any law regarding noise or the location of its mooring then it has every right to be at its location at the pier. You may not like it but as long as they are law abiding then there is not much you can do other than petition to the City.

Note the history of this location has always been entrainment drive way back to the dances and concerts held at the Winnipesaukee Gardens.


Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
joey2665 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to joey2665 For This Useful Post:
BroadHopper (07-11-2019)
Old 07-11-2019, 07:23 AM   #237
Biggd
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Waltham Ma./Meredith NH
Posts: 1,853
Thanks: 533
Thanked 355 Times in 245 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wdlincolnjr View Post
comment for Joey I am sorry but you are wrong about the complainers renting their property that the Dive is almost directly in front of they are there almost everyday throughout the year.. although not permanent.The Dive is a major nuisance and unlike what they say their music is NOT ambient and it starts early in the morning and continues all day non stop especially on weekends when you would like to enjoy your property with friends but cant because of a huge billboard with noise overlooking you all day. Imagine paying huge taxes for waterfront property and being able to work from home and having to shut your windows because of for lack of a better word raucous behavior untilpast midnight I think not. The Dive does NOT belong in a residential area but where they claim they were going to be on the lake and hopefully they can see that they affect many people and can try to become good neighbors to all and correct their errors
Everyone loves the concept until it's in their back yard, or in this case, front yard. I don't blame them at all for complaining.
Biggd is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Biggd For This Useful Post:
Reilly (07-12-2019), thinkxingu (07-11-2019)
Old 07-11-2019, 07:26 AM   #238
Hillcountry
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: In the hills
Posts: 1,655
Thanks: 847
Thanked 409 Times in 262 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thinkxingu View Post
I've never been on Winnisquam--are there ports/public docks like Winni? Sandbars?

Sent from my SM-G950U using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
There are a couple of private business docks (small docks), one at the Mosquito Bridge store and one at the Lobster Connection. No public “3 hour” docks that I know of. There is a couple of sand bars and one loon sanctuary. There are not many “hazards” like rocks anywhere on the lake. I believe there are 2 marinas on Winnisquam...Winnisquam Marine (same owner as Winni Marine on the channel) and one on the Winnipesaukee River across from the state boat ramps.
Nice lake but the “destinations” are not there like on the big lake.
Hillcountry is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2019, 07:41 AM   #239
thinkxingu
Senior Member
 
thinkxingu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 2,452
Thanks: 657
Thanked 674 Times in 395 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hillcountry View Post
There are a couple of private business docks (small docks), one at the Mosquito Bridge store and one at the Lobster Connection. No public “3 hour” docks that I know of. There is a couple of sand bars and one loon sanctuary. There are not many “hazards” like rocks anywhere on the lake. I believe there are 2 marinas on Winnisquam...Winnisquam Marine (same owner as Winni Marine on the channel) and one on the Winnipesaukee River across from the state boat ramps.
Nice lake but the “destinations” are not there like on the big lake.
Thanks! I think we're spoiled being in the north of Winni, as we've got enough No Wake areas to chill and with a (short enough) ride, we can be to the "Big Lake."

Cheers, and back to our regularly scheduled debate about The Dive's presence at The Weirs pier.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
thinkxingu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2019, 07:42 AM   #240
tis
Senior Member
 
tis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 4,664
Thanks: 461
Thanked 825 Times in 574 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggd View Post
Everyone loves the concept until it's in their back yard, or in this case, front yard. I don't blame them at all for complaining.
I have been thinking the same thing as I have been reading these comments.
tis is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2019, 08:28 AM   #241
rsmlp
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 368
Thanks: 5
Thanked 105 Times in 53 Posts
Default Dive

Really glad this monstrosity is moored on the SW side of the lake. Honestly, too bad it's so popular. It's an eyesore and does nothing to enhance the lake Winni experience.
rsmlp is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to rsmlp For This Useful Post:
ApS (07-11-2019), kawishiwi (07-11-2019), thinkxingu (07-11-2019)
Old 07-11-2019, 09:20 AM   #242
joey2665
Senior Member
 
joey2665's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Meredith Bay & LI, NY
Posts: 2,155
Thanks: 447
Thanked 543 Times in 367 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rsmlp View Post
Really glad this monstrosity is moored on the SW side of the lake. Honestly, too bad it's so popular. It's an eyesore and does nothing to enhance the lake Winni experience.
Too each his own you said it, it’s very popular so not an eyesore to everyone.


Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
joey2665 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2019, 09:36 AM   #243
thinkxingu
Senior Member
 
thinkxingu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 2,452
Thanks: 657
Thanked 674 Times in 395 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by joey2665 View Post
Too each his own you said it, it’s very popular so not an eyesore to everyone.


Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
Not everyone has to look at it, just those it parks in front of.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
thinkxingu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2019, 10:11 AM   #244
TheTimeTraveler
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 198
Thanks: 31
Thanked 29 Times in 21 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rsmlp View Post
Really glad this monstrosity is moored on the SW side of the lake. Honestly, too bad it's so popular. It's an eyesore and does nothing to enhance the lake Winni experience.
rsmip; Are you trying to say that it's becoming a little too much like Hampton Beach?
TheTimeTraveler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2019, 10:13 AM   #245
VitaBene
Senior Member
 
VitaBene's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Moultonborough
Posts: 3,122
Thanks: 1,250
Thanked 1,375 Times in 688 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rsmlp View Post
It's an eyesore and does nothing to enhance the lake Winni experience.
It is certainly enhancing the experience of those that frequent it.
VitaBene is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2019, 10:22 AM   #246
Biggd
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Waltham Ma./Meredith NH
Posts: 1,853
Thanks: 533
Thanked 355 Times in 245 Posts
Default

This thread has obviously drawn a lot of interest on both sides. It would be interesting for someone to start a poll, for and against.
Biggd is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Biggd For This Useful Post:
VitaBene (07-11-2019)
Old 07-11-2019, 10:40 AM   #247
ishoot308
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Gilford, NH / Welch Island
Posts: 4,300
Thanks: 1,531
Thanked 3,098 Times in 1,193 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggd View Post
This thread has obviously drawn a lot of interest on both sides. It would be interesting for someone to start a poll, for and against.
A poll like that on this forum would mean absolutely nothing. It is quite obvious based on the amount of people that frequent the dive (its packed every day and night at the pier, not to mention at the sandbars) that anyone against it would by FAR be in the minority. Go on their facebook page and look at the support they have.

The person that is complaining bought a home directly next to the pier in the weirs which is zoned commercial...did they really expect serenity??

The pier and the dive did absolutely nothing wrong and the town approved everything as being per their code. There is no argument here whatsoever. They have the right to run their business in a commercial area as they see fit as long as no noise ordinances or other town laws are broken.

In my opinion the Dive has added a lot of visitors to the Weirs. It is where it should be and I cannot think of a better place for it. They will be and have been very successful thus far in that location and I wish them well!

Dan
__________________
It's Always Sunny On Welch Island!!
ishoot308 is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to ishoot308 For This Useful Post:
brk-lnt (07-12-2019), Descant (07-11-2019), Shreddy (07-15-2019), VitaBene (07-11-2019)
Old 07-11-2019, 10:57 AM   #248
Biggd
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Waltham Ma./Meredith NH
Posts: 1,853
Thanks: 533
Thanked 355 Times in 245 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ishoot308 View Post
A poll like that on this forum would mean absolutely nothing. It is quite obvious based on the amount of people that frequent the dive (its packed every day and night at the pier, not to mention at the sandbars) that anyone against it would by FAR be in the minority. Go on their facebook page and look at the support they have.

The person that is complaining bought a home directly next to the pier in the weirs which is zoned commercial...did they really expect serenity??

The pier and the dive did absolutely nothing wrong and the town approved everything as being per their code. There is no argument here whatsoever. They have the right to run their business in a commercial area as they see fit as long as no noise ordinances or other town laws are broken.

In my opinion the Dive has added a lot of visitors to the Weirs. It is where it should be and I cannot think of a better place for it. They will be and have been very successful thus far in that location and I wish them well!

Dan
I think a better place for it would be in front of your home.
Biggd is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Biggd For This Useful Post:
VitaBene (07-11-2019)
Old 07-11-2019, 11:31 AM   #249
Woodsy
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Weirs Beach
Posts: 1,614
Thanks: 52
Thanked 712 Times in 292 Posts
Default

Biggd..... Just more NIMBY attitude!

Woodsy
__________________
The only way to eliminate ignorant behavior is through education. You can't fix stupid.
Woodsy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2019, 11:39 AM   #250
joey2665
Senior Member
 
joey2665's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Meredith Bay & LI, NY
Posts: 2,155
Thanks: 447
Thanked 543 Times in 367 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thinkxingu View Post
Not everyone has to look at it, just those it parks in front of.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
Yes but if it legally docked, as it is, there is nothing they can really do about it. Keep in mind the pier and its entertainment activity have been there for over 70 years so they knew what they were getting into when they purchased their property
joey2665 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2019, 11:48 AM   #251
VitaBene
Senior Member
 
VitaBene's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Moultonborough
Posts: 3,122
Thanks: 1,250
Thanked 1,375 Times in 688 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ishoot308 View Post
A poll like that on this forum would mean absolutely nothing. It is quite obvious based on the amount of people that frequent the dive (its packed every day and night at the pier, not to mention at the sandbars) that anyone against it would by FAR be in the minority. Go on their facebook page and look at the support they have.

The person that is complaining bought a home directly next to the pier in the weirs which is zoned commercial...did they really expect serenity??

The pier and the dive did absolutely nothing wrong and the town approved everything as being per their code. There is no argument here whatsoever. They have the right to run their business in a commercial area as they see fit as long as no noise ordinances or other town laws are broken.

In my opinion the Dive has added a lot of visitors to the Weirs. It is where it should be and I cannot think of a better place for it. They will be and have been very successful thus far in that location and I wish them well!

Dan
Dan, stop being so logical!! I have not been to the Dive, but will at some point soon.
VitaBene is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to VitaBene For This Useful Post:
ishoot308 (07-11-2019)
Old 07-11-2019, 11:52 AM   #252
thinkxingu
Senior Member
 
thinkxingu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 2,452
Thanks: 657
Thanked 674 Times in 395 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by joey2665 View Post
Yes but if it legally docked, as it is, there is nothing they can really do about it. Keep in mind the pier and its entertainment activity have been there for over 70 years so they knew what they were getting into when they purchased their property
Agreed on the legality, but I wonder if there'd be a better setup orientation so's it wouldn't interfere with the homes nearby.

Like I've said before, I don't have an issue with the Dive, I have an issue with the Dive impacting people's access/use of public property.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
thinkxingu is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to thinkxingu For This Useful Post:
joey2665 (07-11-2019)
Old 07-11-2019, 12:04 PM   #253
ishoot308
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Gilford, NH / Welch Island
Posts: 4,300
Thanks: 1,531
Thanked 3,098 Times in 1,193 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggd View Post
I think a better place for it would be in front of your home.
I guess I was smart not to buy a home abutting a commercial zoned property in the busiest area of the lake sandwiched between multiple live music bars and an arcade!! This is not rocket science! ..

Dan
__________________
It's Always Sunny On Welch Island!!
ishoot308 is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to ishoot308 For This Useful Post:
brk-lnt (07-12-2019), GBGX2 (07-12-2019), Hillcountry (07-11-2019), joey2665 (07-11-2019), Paugus Bay Resident (07-11-2019), rander7823 (07-16-2019)
Old 07-11-2019, 01:00 PM   #254
Biggd
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Waltham Ma./Meredith NH
Posts: 1,853
Thanks: 533
Thanked 355 Times in 245 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodsy View Post
Biggd..... Just more NIMBY attitude!

Woodsy
I have no skin in the game. I'm not on Winni but I can understand why people don't want to look at that out their front window, where ever it's parked.
It's never going to block my view but that doesn't mean I have no right to an opinion on the matter.
Biggd is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Biggd For This Useful Post:
Momo (07-11-2019)
Old 07-11-2019, 01:04 PM   #255
Biggd
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Waltham Ma./Meredith NH
Posts: 1,853
Thanks: 533
Thanked 355 Times in 245 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ishoot308 View Post
I guess I was smart not to buy a home abutting a commercial zoned property in the busiest area of the lake sandwiched between multiple live music bars and an arcade!! This is not rocket science! ..

Dan
Yes you where, but I still think it would look better in front of your property, JMO!
Biggd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2019, 03:14 PM   #256
FlyingScot
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Tuftonboro and Sudbury, MA
Posts: 546
Thanks: 291
Thanked 150 Times in 95 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BroadHopper View Post
I lived 40 years on Lake Winnipesaukee, (family since 1892), the property tax went through the roof! I decided to sell the property on The Broad and moved to Lake Winnisquam. Peace at last and affordable. Personally Lake Winnisquam is a better retirement alternative and far better for boating on weekends than Winnipesaukee. Yes, off season, it can't hold a candle to the big lake, but year round Winnisquam has more value.
I did not mean to suggest Winnisquam (or Waukewan) is not as good, only that it is not really comparable in that the pluses and minuses of each are so different. Some folks like size, some like quaintness; it's all good.
FlyingScot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2019, 03:17 PM   #257
rsmlp
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 368
Thanks: 5
Thanked 105 Times in 53 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by VitaBene View Post
It is certainly enhancing the experience of those that frequent it.
Totally agree. And yes, I think it does bring a Hampton/Weirs beach vibe here to its location. Not something I personally like. Hence, why I'm happy to have it not near us.
rsmlp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2019, 03:18 PM   #258
FlyingScot
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Tuftonboro and Sudbury, MA
Posts: 546
Thanks: 291
Thanked 150 Times in 95 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by joey2665 View Post
I’m sorry I disagree and I also own in the area. As long at the Dive is not breaking any law regarding noise or the location of its mooring then it has every right to be at its location at the pier. You may not like it but as long as they are law abiding then there is not much you can do other than petition to the City.

Note the history of this location has always been entrainment drive way back to the dances and concerts held at the Winnipesaukee Gardens.


Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
You seem to equate the law with being a good neighbor, these are separate things. No one has said they aren't following the law, only that they are a lousy neighbor. Even many of your posts imply this when you say things like "as long as they don't go to the same place every day..."

As to "not much you can do about it", Mr Florida seems to be doing something, or the Dive would not have set up petition
FlyingScot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2019, 03:30 PM   #259
joey2665
Senior Member
 
joey2665's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Meredith Bay & LI, NY
Posts: 2,155
Thanks: 447
Thanked 543 Times in 367 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingScot View Post
You seem to equate the law with being a good neighbor, these are separate things. No one has said they aren't following the law, only that they are a lousy neighbor. Even many of your posts imply this when you say things like "as long as they don't go to the same place every day..."

As to "not much you can do about it", Mr Florida seems to be doing something, or the Dive would not have set up petition
Who says they are a lousy neighbor? Just one person.

The Dive took the mooring space that they were given by East Coast Flightcraft and the city.

My reference is to mooring in coves for rafting in purely residential areas that are "NOT" commercially zoned areas which is not the case where they dock nightly and keep in mind not only are they in that location but many other bars and restaurants that play music and have a tremendous amount of night activity especially on the weekends this is just the type of area the Weirs Boardwalk is, again they purchased is this neighborhood and should expect this type of activity.
joey2665 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2019, 04:41 PM   #260
ishoot308
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Gilford, NH / Welch Island
Posts: 4,300
Thanks: 1,531
Thanked 3,098 Times in 1,193 Posts
Default Here's Your Poll

In less than 20 hours they already have over 2000 signatures on their petition in support...
__________________
It's Always Sunny On Welch Island!!
ishoot308 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2019, 05:36 PM   #261
TiltonBB
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Gilford, NH and Florida
Posts: 1,503
Thanks: 230
Thanked 844 Times in 348 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by joey2665 View Post
The Dive took the mooring space that they were given by East Coast Flightcraft and the city.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ishoot308 View Post

The pier and the dive did absolutely nothing wrong and the town approved everything as being per their code.

Dan
Just a point of information: The city of Laconia does not approve or enforce anything on the water. It is up to the state.
TiltonBB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2019, 05:52 PM   #262
Momo
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 24
Thanks: 16
Thanked 17 Times in 8 Posts
Default

The Laconia Sun reported “After the busy 4th of July weekend, water testing at Ellacoya State Park showed fecal bacteria at levels beyond state standards, making the area unsuitable for wading or swimming, the state Department of Environmental Services said Tuesday.”

Does anyone know if the State conducts bacterial testing in Braun Bay and Smalls Cove when they are mobbed with people who come for the day with no rest room facilities? Water circulation moves that “stuff” somewhere in the lake. It is good that the Dive has facilities, but it can not possibly take care of The “crowds” of people they are reportedly drawing to the sand bars.
Momo is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Momo For This Useful Post:
jtilds (07-14-2019)
Old 07-11-2019, 06:53 PM   #263
fatlazyless
Senior Member
 
fatlazyless's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 6,434
Blog Entries: 1
Thanks: 196
Thanked 501 Times in 374 Posts
Default

Maybe the town of Moultonborough and town of Alton would agree to pay the $270-each for the NH-DES to test the waters at the Braun Bay sandbar area, and West Alton sandbar area on a monthly basis during the summer months, similar to a swim beach? Perhaps DES could catch a boat ride from the Marine Patrol or probably someone could volunteer a boat ride for DES testing to get the tester, out there and back.

Here's a great idea ..... just have the DES tester person spend the whole day on board The Dive, for a round trip visit moving along at 4-mph, out and back ..... strictly for testing purposes.
__________________
Down & out, livn that Walmart side of the lake!

Last edited by fatlazyless; 07-11-2019 at 07:23 PM.
fatlazyless is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2019, 07:00 PM   #264
garysanfran
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: San Francisco/Meredith
Posts: 793
Thanks: 238
Thanked 284 Times in 134 Posts
Default What's that floatin' in the water???

Quote:
Originally Posted by Momo View Post
The Laconia Sun reported “After the busy 4th of July weekend, water testing at Ellacoya State Park showed fecal bacteria at levels beyond state standards, making the area unsuitable for wading or swimming, the state Department of Environmental Services said Tuesday.”

Does anyone know if the State conducts bacterial testing in Braun Bay and Smalls Cove when they are mobbed with people who come for the day with no rest room facilities? Water circulation moves that “stuff” somewhere in the lake. It is good that the Dive has facilities, but it can not possibly take care of The “crowds” of people they are reportedly drawing to the sand bars.
Looks like a Baby Ruth! Yummmm...
__________________
Gary
~~~~_/) ~~~
~~~~~~~~
garysanfran is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to garysanfran For This Useful Post:
Top-Water (07-11-2019)
Old 07-11-2019, 07:03 PM   #265
ishoot308
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Gilford, NH / Welch Island
Posts: 4,300
Thanks: 1,531
Thanked 3,098 Times in 1,193 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TiltonBB View Post
Just a point of information: The city of Laconia does not approve or enforce anything on the water. It is up to the state.
Interesting...so the pier does not have to answer to the city on how their property, dock space in this matter, gets rented out? Would the city not collect taxes on the revenue generated by the rental space?

Thanks for the info!

Dan
__________________
It's Always Sunny On Welch Island!!
ishoot308 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2019, 07:46 PM   #266
Top-Water
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Derry-Belmont
Posts: 695
Thanks: 432
Thanked 271 Times in 152 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by garysanfran View Post
Looks like a Baby Ruth! Yummmm...
Your not talking about something like this are you.

Classic..




Actually fake news / trick photography. Not that it really matters unless you encounter one. Kids Prove Baby Ruth! not a floater

Top-Water is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Top-Water For This Useful Post:
garysanfran (07-12-2019), rander7823 (07-16-2019)
Old 07-11-2019, 08:12 PM   #267
Top-Water
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Derry-Belmont
Posts: 695
Thanks: 432
Thanked 271 Times in 152 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fatlazyless View Post
Maybe the town of Moultonborough and town of Alton would agree to pay the $270-each for the NH-DES to test the waters at the Braun Bay sandbar area, and West Alton sandbar area on a monthly basis during the summer months, similar to a swim beach? Perhaps DES could catch a boat ride from the Marine Patrol or probably someone could volunteer a boat ride for DES testing to get the tester, out there and back.

Here's a great idea ..... just have the DES tester person spend the whole day on board The Dive, for a round trip visit moving along at 4-mph, out and back ..... strictly for testing purposes.
Speaking of __it or should I say water quality, how about $270 from you after you feed the geese and ducks with your famous boxes of Cheez-It's and they can test the water around your place. As mentioned Strictly for testing purposes.
Top-Water is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2019, 08:34 PM   #268
fatlazyless
Senior Member
 
fatlazyless's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 6,434
Blog Entries: 1
Thanks: 196
Thanked 501 Times in 374 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Top-Water View Post
Speaking of __it or should I say water quality, how about $270 from you after you feed the geese and ducks with your famous boxes of Cheez-It's and they can test the water around your place. As mentioned Strictly for testing purposes.
.....is just one goose, named Canada, who has shown up for the last six years from last week of March thru first week of May ..... while he lounges about, keeping one eye on his nesting mate ..... she sits on the nest about 150-yds away on Horse Island.

Canada tells me he likes the Cheez-it originals in the $4-family box from Walmart, best!

Whenever any foreign geese get within 200-yards of Horse Island, Canada goes into high alert, starts honking, and goes into fighter air attack mode and shoos away the incoming goose or geese .... he is all powered up by Cheez-its original .... which will float .... and can be tossed 40-feet like a Frisbee.
__________________
Down & out, livn that Walmart side of the lake!
fatlazyless is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2019, 08:55 PM   #269
TiltonBB
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Gilford, NH and Florida
Posts: 1,503
Thanks: 230
Thanked 844 Times in 348 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ishoot308 View Post
Interesting...so the pier does not have to answer to the city on how their property, dock space in this matter, gets rented out? Would the city not collect taxes on the revenue generated by the rental space?

Thanks for the info!

Dan
Correct. The city cannot tell them who they can rent to. The pier is privately owned and that is a decision of the owner.

No, the city does not have a tax specifically for "rental space". Of course, that rental income would be considered part of the value of the property and reflected in the assessment for real estate tax purposes.

I have commercial property and docks on the lake and the decision of who I rent to is totally up to me. The only tax I pay, other than real estate taxes on the property, is the income tax on the revenue generated by the rentals. That tax goes to the Federal Government, not to the state or the city. There is no city income tax. (This is not New York)
TiltonBB is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to TiltonBB For This Useful Post:
ishoot308 (07-11-2019), Y2K (07-12-2019)
Old 07-11-2019, 09:29 PM   #270
Descant
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Merrimack and Welch Island
Posts: 1,790
Thanks: 534
Thanked 542 Times in 348 Posts
Default Close it

The mis-information and off topic posts on this thread are embarrassing. A little restraint, please. Try to be positive. Lets's all just enjoy Lake Winnipesaukee and the forum. Remember, you'll want to shake hands and hug these folks at the next ForumFest.
Descant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2019, 05:21 AM   #271
Reilly
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 158
Thanks: 497
Thanked 44 Times in 30 Posts
Thumbs up The Channel

Quote:
Originally Posted by TiltonBB View Post
Correct. The city cannot tell them who they can rent to. The pier is privately owned and that is a decision of the owner.

No, the city does not have a tax specifically for "rental space". Of course, that rental income would be considered part of the value of the property and reflected in the assessment for real estate tax purposes.

I have commercial property and docks on the lake and the decision of who I rent to is totally up to me. The only tax I pay, other than real estate taxes on the property, is the income tax on the revenue generated by the rentals. That tax goes to the Federal Government, not to the state or the city. There is no city income tax. (This is not New York)
The dive would look good in the channel at one of your docks
Reilly is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Reilly For This Useful Post:
Momo (07-12-2019)
Old 07-12-2019, 09:15 AM   #272
Phantom
Senior Member
 
Phantom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Hudson, Ma / Gilford
Posts: 1,763
Thanks: 340
Thanked 517 Times in 295 Posts
Default

It just amazes me that 271 posts into this thread the same OLD people are continuing to find cause (ugly, expensive, bad neighbor, not sea worthy- despite coast Guard approvals, so on & so on snipes by the same "armchair experts") why the Dive should not be on the Lake.

Why not embrace it . It is simply another "attraction" to our Seasonal business...….if you do not personally like it - simply don't go! If the sight of it at a sand bar bothers you - find another! ONE property owner at Weirs has an issue -- we'll see how that turns out.


Clearly - being into their second Season of operation with 2,000+ petition supporters in just one day and appears over 5,600 supporters on Facebook they are doing something right for one fairly large segment of the "market" !

I cannot recall another thread that has SO MUCH negativity consistently thrown in by such a small circle of members.
__________________
A bad day on the Big Lake (although I've never had one) - Still beats a day at the office!!
Phantom is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Phantom For This Useful Post:
gravy boat (07-12-2019), kauriel (07-14-2019), Paugus Bay Resident (07-12-2019), Top-Water (07-13-2019), Toyorelle (07-12-2019)
Old 07-12-2019, 09:27 AM   #273
Seaplane Pilot
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 881
Thanks: 313
Thanked 493 Times in 188 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phantom View Post
It just amazes me that 271 posts into this thread the same OLD people are continuing to find cause (ugly, expensive, bad neighbor, not sea worthy- despite coast Guard approvals, so on & so on snipes by the same "armchair experts") why the Dive should not be on the Lake.

Why not embrace it . It is simply another "attraction" to our Seasonal business...….if you do not personally like it - simply don't go! If the sight of it at a sand bar bothers you - find another! ONE property owner at Weirs has an issue -- we'll see how that turns out.

Clearly - being into their second Season of operation with 2,000+ petition supporters in just one day and appears over 5,600 supporters on Facebook they are doing something right for one fairly large segment of the "market" !

I cannot recall another thread that has SO MUCH negativity consistently thrown in by such a small circle of members..
AMEN Phantom! This is really comical to see some of these ridiculous comments! Water testing at the sand bar, just because the DIVE is there? Typical smoke and mirrors arguments from the same cry babies.

To your other point "I cannot recall another thread that has SO MUCH negativity consistently thrown in by such a small circle of members." I can...but won't bring up the taboo subject....
Seaplane Pilot is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Seaplane Pilot For This Useful Post:
Phantom (07-12-2019), Top-Water (07-13-2019), Toyorelle (07-12-2019)
Old 07-12-2019, 11:44 AM   #274
neckdweller
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Moultonborough & Southern NH
Posts: 119
Thanks: 6
Thanked 24 Times in 14 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Momo View Post
The Laconia Sun reported “After the busy 4th of July weekend, water testing at Ellacoya State Park showed fecal bacteria at levels beyond state standards, making the area unsuitable for wading or swimming, the state Department of Environmental Services said Tuesday.”

Does anyone know if the State conducts bacterial testing in Braun Bay and Smalls Cove when they are mobbed with people who come for the day with no rest room facilities? Water circulation moves that “stuff” somewhere in the lake. It is good that the Dive has facilities, but it can not possibly take care of The “crowds” of people they are reportedly drawing to the sand bars.
I think you've got it backwards. The Dive isn't drawing crowds to the sand bar, the sand bar crowd is drawing The Dive.

That petition (for whatever good having a petition is) is closing in on 2,500 signatures in a few days, not that bad.
neckdweller is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2019, 11:56 AM   #275
thinkxingu
Senior Member
 
thinkxingu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 2,452
Thanks: 657
Thanked 674 Times in 395 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by neckdweller View Post
I think you've got it backwards. The Dive isn't drawing crowds to the sand bar, the sand bar crowd is drawing The Dive.

That petition (for whatever good having a petition is) is closing in on 2,500 signatures in a few days, not that bad.
Exactly, but don't forget that those 2,500 aren't affected by the Dive's presence--they get to leave. Ask how many people want the ice cream truck anchoring in front of their homes.

I will say that I'm appreciative that we can head to WA sandbar sans Dive most days. The good neighbor metaphor is apt.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
thinkxingu is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to thinkxingu For This Useful Post:
Biggd (07-12-2019), dippasan (07-18-2019), Momo (07-12-2019)
Old 07-12-2019, 12:03 PM   #276
Phantom
Senior Member
 
Phantom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Hudson, Ma / Gilford
Posts: 1,763
Thanks: 340
Thanked 517 Times in 295 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Momo View Post
The Laconia Sun reported “After the busy 4th of July weekend, water testing at Ellacoya State Park showed fecal bacteria at levels beyond state standards, making the area unsuitable for wading or swimming, the state Department of Environmental Services said Tuesday.”

Does anyone know if the State conducts bacterial testing in Braun Bay and Smalls Cove when they are mobbed with people who come for the day with no rest room facilities? Water circulation moves that “stuff” somewhere in the lake. It is good that the Dive has facilities, but it can not possibly take care of The “crowds” of people they are reportedly drawing to the sand bars.
LET'S be CLEAR --- --- the Dive was nowhere (relatively) near the State Park over the 4th weekend … in addition -- the Dive event was NOT open to the public -- it was a "shore" party for Lake Shore Residents and they boarded by the "Big Pier" (no boats, no sand bar event)………………. as stated in my other post -- just another lame accusation towards the Dive....

and no -- I have no vested interest … in fact, I have indeed been aboard, but personally would not go back unless I was taking guests for the novelty experience.
__________________
A bad day on the Big Lake (although I've never had one) - Still beats a day at the office!!
Phantom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2019, 01:32 PM   #277
joey2665
Senior Member
 
joey2665's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Meredith Bay & LI, NY
Posts: 2,155
Thanks: 447
Thanked 543 Times in 367 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phantom View Post
LET'S be CLEAR --- --- the Dive was nowhere (relatively) near the State Park over the 4th weekend … in addition -- the Dive event was NOT open to the public -- it was a "shore" party for Lake Shore Residents and they boarded by the "Big Pier" (no boats, no sand bar event)………………. as stated in my other post -- just another lame accusation towards the Dive....

and no -- I have no vested interest … in fact, I have indeed been aboard, but personally would not go back unless I was taking guests for the novelty experience.
Great post!!! just one small correction, the Dive was in Brain Bay on the 4th.


Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
joey2665 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to joey2665 For This Useful Post:
Phantom (07-12-2019)
Old 07-12-2019, 07:29 PM   #278
Momo
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 24
Thanks: 16
Thanked 17 Times in 8 Posts
Default

You missed the point.... nobody said the Dive was anywhere near Ellacoya on July 4. Each opposing side of this forum (aka debate) will believe what they want to believe. There are lovers and haters of the Dive and this forum will only reinforce this, but it is fun to read
Momo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2019, 01:11 PM   #279
Mr. V
Senior Member
 
Mr. V's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: the left coast (Portland)and West Alton
Posts: 799
Thanks: 14
Thanked 87 Times in 62 Posts
Default

A petition, whether pro or anti-Dive, will have the legal significance of a burst of flatulence in a hurricane.

Just sayin'.
__________________
basking in the benign indifference of the universe
Mr. V is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Mr. V For This Useful Post:
gravy boat (07-14-2019), kawishiwi (07-14-2019), Momo (07-14-2019)
Old 07-14-2019, 03:08 PM   #280
thinkxingu
Senior Member
 
thinkxingu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 2,452
Thanks: 657
Thanked 674 Times in 395 Posts
Default

Spent half my time at WAM sandbar today keeping unattended boats with ineffective anchors from banging into my, and other, boats.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
thinkxingu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2019, 03:35 PM   #281
Biggd
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Waltham Ma./Meredith NH
Posts: 1,853
Thanks: 533
Thanked 355 Times in 245 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thinkxingu View Post
Spent half my time at WAM sandbar today keeping unattended boats with ineffective anchors from banging into my, and other, boats.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
Sounds like fun.
Biggd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2019, 04:23 PM   #282
thinkxingu
Senior Member
 
thinkxingu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 2,452
Thanks: 657
Thanked 674 Times in 395 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggd View Post
Sounds like fun.
I'm thinking of becoming a Mantus traveling salesman. I could've sold 5 or 6 today so people could sell their souls at The Dive.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
thinkxingu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2019, 04:38 PM   #283
fatlazyless
Senior Member
 
fatlazyless's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 6,434
Blog Entries: 1
Thanks: 196
Thanked 501 Times in 374 Posts
Default ..... anchors away!

For $23.74 the Gilford Walmart has a 15-lb anchor, named a river anchor, that is coated with black vinyi and has three large prongs ...... is basically a mushroom style anchor with three prongs designed to claw into the lake bottom, and these work good on both rocky and sandy lake bottoms.

For about $50, the Walmart website has a similar design anchor that weighs 30-lbs which is probably the maximum weight for an anchor to be removed by muscle power, without an electric winch.

Have to wonder if one of these 30-lb three prong anchors and 100' of 3/4" line would be able to hold The Dive, a 22'x62' barge, in place in water that's about 15-20' deep?

....... anchors away ....... and bottoms up ...... here's to this anchor holding The Dive barge in place! ..... otherwise just aim for the rocks ..... and think positive thoughts!
__________________
Down & out, livn that Walmart side of the lake!
fatlazyless is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to fatlazyless For This Useful Post:
Momo (07-14-2019)
Old 07-14-2019, 06:37 PM   #284
Hillcountry
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: In the hills
Posts: 1,655
Thanks: 847
Thanked 409 Times in 262 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thinkxingu View Post
Spent half my time at WAM sandbar today keeping unattended boats with ineffective anchors from banging into my, and other, boats.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
Perhaps you should have lifted their ineffective anchor and set their boat adrift toward the deeper water...no excuse for partying while your boat is unattended and unstable. Or get some really sticky stickers and slap one on their boat somewhere obvious saying “ANCHORING BASICS...LEARN THEM!”
Hillcountry is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Hillcountry For This Useful Post:
garysanfran (07-15-2019), thinkxingu (07-14-2019)
Old 07-14-2019, 06:50 PM   #285
Top-Water
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Derry-Belmont
Posts: 695
Thanks: 432
Thanked 271 Times in 152 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thinkxingu View Post
I'm thinking of becoming a Mantus traveling salesman. I could've sold 5 or 6 today so people could sell their souls at The Dive.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
Perhaps as an incentive for looking into the Mantus anchor you could give out free Bibles To help these folks save their souls before entering the den of iniquity at the dive.
Top-Water is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Top-Water For This Useful Post:
thinkxingu (07-15-2019)
Old 07-14-2019, 07:02 PM   #286
thinkxingu
Senior Member
 
thinkxingu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 2,452
Thanks: 657
Thanked 674 Times in 395 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hillcountry View Post
Perhaps you should have lifted their ineffective anchor and set their boat adrift toward the deeper water...no excuse for partying while your boat is unattended and unstable. Or get some really sticky stickers and slap one on their boat somewhere obvious saying “ANCHORING BASICS...LEARN THEM!”
I actually like helping people at sandbars--I remember my first time visiting one and how much easier it was when people jumped in to lend a hand.

You're right, though--there's a difference between needing a hand and leaving to let others deal with your mess.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
thinkxingu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2019, 07:20 AM   #287
Biggd
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Waltham Ma./Meredith NH
Posts: 1,853
Thanks: 533
Thanked 355 Times in 245 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Top-Water View Post
Perhaps as an incentive for looking into the Mantus anchor you could give out free Bibles To help these folks save their souls before entering the den of iniquity at the dive.
You must have watched the series Ozark's on Net Flix. What's in those bibles.
Biggd is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Biggd For This Useful Post:
gravy boat (07-17-2019), Winnigirl (07-16-2019)
Old 07-15-2019, 03:11 PM   #288
JADAQ
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Alton Bay
Posts: 150
Thanks: 4
Thanked 35 Times in 25 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fatlazyless View Post
For $23.74 the Gilford Walmart has a 15-lb anchor, named a river anchor, that is coated with black vinyi and has three large prongs ...... is basically a mushroom style anchor with three prongs designed to claw into the lake bottom, and these work good on both rocky and sandy lake bottoms.

For about $50, the Walmart website has a similar design anchor that weighs 30-lbs which is probably the maximum weight for an anchor to be removed by muscle power, without an electric winch.

Have to wonder if one of these 30-lb three prong anchors and 100' of 3/4" line would be able to hold The Dive, a 22'x62' barge, in place in water that's about 15-20' deep?

....... anchors away ....... and bottoms up ...... here's to this anchor holding The Dive barge in place! ..... otherwise just aim for the rocks ..... and think positive thoughts!
Do you work at, live at or have large amounts of stock in Walmart? Just curious..
JADAQ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2019, 03:19 PM   #289
Phantom
Senior Member
 
Phantom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Hudson, Ma / Gilford
Posts: 1,763
Thanks: 340
Thanked 517 Times in 295 Posts
Default

It's just closer to his house than "Big Lot's"
__________________
A bad day on the Big Lake (although I've never had one) - Still beats a day at the office!!
Phantom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2019, 03:25 PM   #290
znh
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 149
Thanks: 28
Thanked 39 Times in 24 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thinkxingu View Post
Spent half my time at WAM sandbar today keeping unattended boats with ineffective anchors from banging into my, and other, boats.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
That sandbar is terrible...we love it during the week but never on the weekends...too busy at the channel, way too much boat chop, steep drop offs and soft sand...fts...
znh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2019, 12:42 AM   #291
Top-Water
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Derry-Belmont
Posts: 695
Thanks: 432
Thanked 271 Times in 152 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phantom View Post
It's just closer to his house than "Big Lot's" .
LMAO at that one, very funny.
Top-Water is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2019, 05:58 AM   #292
thinkxingu
Senior Member
 
thinkxingu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 2,452
Thanks: 657
Thanked 674 Times in 395 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by znh View Post
That sandbar is terrible...we love it during the week but never on the weekends...too busy at the channel, way too much boat chop, steep drop offs and soft sand...fts...
Inside at least one row of boats, it calms down a bit and there's no drop-off. We like that there's much less detritus than the other sandbars, the depth is consistent, and, most of all, it's not loud or obnoxious like Braun Bay. It's also the closest sandbar to us.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
thinkxingu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2019, 08:54 AM   #293
Pineedles
Senior Member
 
Pineedles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Moultonborough & CT
Posts: 2,460
Thanks: 970
Thanked 605 Times in 339 Posts
Default

In biology, detritus is dead particulate organic material. It typically includes the bodies or fragments of dead organisms as well as fecal material. Icky!
Pineedles is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2019, 10:12 PM   #294
ACME on the Broads
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 38
Thanks: 57
Thanked 17 Times in 8 Posts
Default A new bay?

"Bain Bay"????.......There we have it!
ACME on the Broads is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2019, 10:43 PM   #295
Mr. V
Senior Member
 
Mr. V's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: the left coast (Portland)and West Alton
Posts: 799
Thanks: 14
Thanked 87 Times in 62 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JADAQ View Post
Do you work at, live at or have large amounts of stock in Walmart? Just curious..
No, somehow in the past Wal-Mart got "imprinted" in his noggin and he can't get rid of it.

Over and over ... "Wal-Mart ... Wal-Mart."

Just saying those words must soothe his soul.

It takes all kinds.
__________________
basking in the benign indifference of the universe
Mr. V is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2019, 10:42 AM   #296
Descant
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Merrimack and Welch Island
Posts: 1,790
Thanks: 534
Thanked 542 Times in 348 Posts
Default local knowledge

Sanders Bay or Saunders Bay? Brain Bay or Braun Bay? All local knowledge.
Descant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2019, 08:18 PM   #297
fatlazyless
Senior Member
 
fatlazyless's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 6,434
Blog Entries: 1
Thanks: 196
Thanked 501 Times in 374 Posts
Default .... needs a site plan amendment.

"Laconia officials say the floating restaurant needs a site plan amendment" (google that) in today's July 23 Union Leader.

Citing the spuds down site of The Dive for noise and blocking the view for residents on nearby Simpson Ave, The Dive could maybe get relocated to the other side of the large Pier building as a way to mitigate the noise and view issues for the neighbors.

It would probably be a better spot for attracting customers just because it would be much more visible from the boardwalk and the road if moved to the inside of the Winni Pier, between the Mount Washington cruise ship and the Pier. Isn't that the spot where the Winnipesaukee Queen, a two masted 48' sailboat used to dock in between 90-minute sailing cruises out to Mark Island and back.
__________________
Down & out, livn that Walmart side of the lake!

Last edited by fatlazyless; 07-23-2019 at 08:50 PM.
fatlazyless is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2019, 09:54 PM   #298
joey2665
Senior Member
 
joey2665's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Meredith Bay & LI, NY
Posts: 2,155
Thanks: 447
Thanked 543 Times in 367 Posts
Default The Dive!

See the link for the article below:

https://www.unionleader.com/news/pol...13829508d.html

Two issues with the article: 1) this is their 1st season at the pier not there second 2) in my opinion and I pass by the area frequently as a keep my boat close by, I do not believe that the current location of the Dive is a safety hazard to other boats navigating the area near the pier.


Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
joey2665 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2019, 08:15 PM   #299
Barney Bear
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 710
Thanks: 318
Thanked 184 Times in 116 Posts
Default Curious Bear 🐻

As the Dive passed by East Bear Island on its return to the Weirs this evening, I wondered :

Is the Dive required to have PFDs for patrons when at its location at Braun Bay, etc.?

Are there any patrons aboard when she travels? ⚓️
Barney Bear is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2019, 08:32 PM   #300
joey2665
Senior Member
 
joey2665's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Meredith Bay & LI, NY
Posts: 2,155
Thanks: 447
Thanked 543 Times in 367 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Barney Bear View Post
As the Dive passed by East Bear Island on its return to the Weirs this evening, I wondered :

Is the Dive required to have PFDs for patrons when at its location at Braun Bay, etc.?

Are there any patrons aboard when she travels? ⚓️
No patrons are aboard as it travels to and from the pier and it’s chosen sand bar. However they to rent it out for chatter. Since it has been inspected and approved by the MP I’m sure it has PFDs for each passenger.

As far at patrons at the sand bars I’m not sure if they are required to have a PFD for each person since the spuds are down but it is a good question.


Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
joey2665 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:23 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions Inc.

This page was generated in 0.29469 seconds