|
Home | Forums | Gallery | Webcams | Blogs | YouTube Channel | Classifieds | Calendar | Register | FAQ | Donate | Members List | Today's Posts | Search |
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
|
03-06-2019, 12:00 PM | #1 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Merrimack and Welch Island
Posts: 4,060
Thanks: 1,219
Thanked 1,527 Times in 988 Posts
|
Form 1040 only?
I doubt Mr. Bahre files only a Form 1040 and a few supplement pages. Trying to make his taxes relate to those filing a 1040-EZ just won't work. Skim through the assessment data base for lakeside properties and see how many are owned by trusts of various types, LLC's, other corporation types and partnerships. Many, many. Must be some reason, not all part of the attorney- CPA-CFP relief program.
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Descant For This Useful Post: | ||
Biggd (03-06-2019) |
03-06-2019, 12:30 PM | #2 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Meredith Bay & LI, NY
Posts: 3,220
Thanks: 1,207
Thanked 1,007 Times in 648 Posts
|
Quote:
|
|
03-06-2019, 01:17 PM | #3 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Mont Vernon NH & Big Barndoor Island
Posts: 320
Thanks: 4
Thanked 184 Times in 62 Posts
|
I imagine any plans to develop the property beyond it's current use would be very hotly contested. The neighbors (including the virtual neighbors just across the channel on Barndoor Island) already put up with years of noise when the original property was built. The town later denied the request to build a large building for Mr Baher's auto collection. I don't know if the current zoning would allow condos in the location or not. Hopefully the new owner just wants to live large on the lake or maybe rent it out as a corporate retreat
|
03-07-2019, 10:26 AM | #4 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Kuna ID
Posts: 2,755
Thanks: 246
Thanked 1,942 Times in 802 Posts
|
Quote:
In the simplest of terms... These are legal maneuvers people are taking to legally protect an asset such as a piece of property or any asset of significant value. It does NOT free them from tax liability or make the taxes being paid any less. The trust, LLC, LLP, corporation or owner in whatever legal format it is defined must pay the same taxes as everyone else at the same rate. In fact most trusts are established simply for the purposes of augmenting a will to pass assets to beneficiaries avoiding any kind of probate or lawsuit claiming a right of ownership outside what is defined within the trust itself. Nothing nefarious here, in fact in today's overly litigious society it's almost a necessity. |
|
03-07-2019, 11:37 AM | #5 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Merrimack and Welch Island
Posts: 4,060
Thanks: 1,219
Thanked 1,527 Times in 988 Posts
|
Quote:
|
|
Sponsored Links |
|
03-07-2019, 11:44 AM | #6 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Waltham Ma./Meredith NH
Posts: 3,765
Thanks: 1,975
Thanked 1,073 Times in 678 Posts
|
Quote:
|
|
03-07-2019, 12:04 PM | #7 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Kuna ID
Posts: 2,755
Thanks: 246
Thanked 1,942 Times in 802 Posts
|
True but you are mixing property taxes with income taxes which are in no way related in the context of how much any entity pays specifically in property taxes.
|
03-07-2019, 12:16 PM | #8 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Waltham Ma./Meredith NH
Posts: 3,765
Thanks: 1,975
Thanked 1,073 Times in 678 Posts
|
I understand that but the reason people use LLC's and Corps is for liability and overall tax burden purposes, esp now that Trump changed the tax laws. As I was reading this thread I think overall tax burden as well as the 10K tax deduction was being brought up.
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Biggd For This Useful Post: | ||
Descant (03-07-2019) |
03-07-2019, 01:03 PM | #9 |
Member
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: NH
Posts: 20
Thanks: 0
Thanked 10 Times in 4 Posts
|
I find reading this post taxing.
|
03-07-2019, 01:04 PM | #10 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Waltham Ma./Meredith NH
Posts: 3,765
Thanks: 1,975
Thanked 1,073 Times in 678 Posts
|
|
03-07-2019, 01:19 PM | #11 |
Member
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: NH
Posts: 20
Thanks: 0
Thanked 10 Times in 4 Posts
|
|
03-07-2019, 02:56 PM | #12 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Merrimack and Welch Island
Posts: 4,060
Thanks: 1,219
Thanked 1,527 Times in 988 Posts
|
Avoidance
I saw the relationship in how to get a better deal i.e. where the $10K cap fits into your plans or if you can avoid it on your income tax, whether it be personal or business. Looks like the answer is, there are some options.
|
03-09-2019, 07:57 AM | #13 |
Senior Member
|
.... the Lake Winnipesaukee LONG VIEW rooming house
You know ..... without doing much of anything in the way of re-construction .... this totally huge home has seven large bedrooms and a lot of bathrooms and a very nice kitchen with a huge refrigerator.
Why not turn it into a vacation rooming house, with linens, towels, an old canoe and kayak or two, and kitchen privileges included. Attach a black marker pen on a 36" string to the edge of the frig, and let residents know they should label what is theirs; like milk, bagels, ice cream, yogurt, Marie Callender frozen $2.50 turkey pot pies .... to keep it a happy rooming house ..... the LONG VIEW Rooming House ...... come visit the famous Lake Winnipesaukee rooming house with the long view ..... for a single day, two days, three days, whatever, or a 7-day stretch, ..... as available. And, what's the price per day, to stay overnight at Long View? Have to work that pricing out, over time, through trial and error ...... and just go with the flow? But, keep the price low to keep the occupancy high, and limit the stay to seven days per year, or something???
__________________
... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake! |
03-09-2019, 08:37 AM | #14 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 6,419
Thanks: 720
Thanked 1,386 Times in 960 Posts
|
I don't know if it shows in the pictures, but I thought it already had a second kitchen. So you don't have to share if it does. No markers, no strings.
|
03-09-2019, 10:19 AM | #15 |
Deceased Member
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 702
Thanks: 360
Thanked 179 Times in 141 Posts
|
Would a seven day rental be considered short-term?- and therefore controversial?
|
03-09-2019, 01:23 PM | #16 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Merrimack and Welch Island
Posts: 4,060
Thanks: 1,219
Thanked 1,527 Times in 988 Posts
|
short term rental
I think anything less than six months is short term and requires that you pay the 9% Room and Meals tax. Short term may not be allowed depending on zoning in any given town.
Long discussion here" https://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums...hlight=rentals |
03-09-2019, 05:44 PM | #17 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Merrimack and Welch Island
Posts: 4,060
Thanks: 1,219
Thanked 1,527 Times in 988 Posts
|
An hour?
$5.6MM, 30 years, 365 days/year is only $21 per hour. Plus tax and tip, of course.
My friend in Rindge will rent his castle, private lake, 500 acres. https://www.vrbo.com/240837ha |
03-10-2019, 09:10 AM | #18 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Kuna ID
Posts: 2,755
Thanks: 246
Thanked 1,942 Times in 802 Posts
|
Since there seems to be some confusion as to what value a property's assessed value should be....
As defined by the state: Rev 901.11 “Fair market value” means the price property would command if: (a) Sold by a seller who is willing, but not compelled, to sell; and (b) Purchased by a purchaser who is willing, but not compelled, to purchase. |
The Following User Says Thank You to MAXUM For This Useful Post: | ||
Top-Water (03-10-2019) |
03-10-2019, 09:45 AM | #19 |
Senior Member
|
Looking at the photo on google earth, it seems like a sure bet that another huge, super-duper waterfront mansion home will get built on what was the junior's softball field and is now the large grass lawn to the left of the big house.
Plus, some townhouse condos with deeded docks and waterfront could be happening for the center lawn area which was formerly, the www.CampAlton.com seniors baseball field and sprinter's track area. During Capture the Flag Day-1964, I landed at the camp infirmary with some bloody chest scrapes, having missed a flying tackle on the hard pack sprinter's track area, there. Can remember getting bandaged up by the camp nurse, and that was the end of Capture the Flag for me, on that sunny, hot day in August. It was two intense months of Gray vs Green color war, and the Green team will bury those Grays! Buy it with financed $5.5-mil, sell it all for $16.5-mil, 1-2-3 years later ..... and everybody ...... friendly banker, busy developer and sharpie town assessor is very happy .... amen!
__________________
... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake! |
03-10-2019, 10:55 AM | #20 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 674
Thanks: 1,535
Thanked 714 Times in 431 Posts
|
Quote:
|
|
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Top-Water For This Useful Post: | ||
03-10-2019, 11:57 AM | #21 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 6,419
Thanks: 720
Thanked 1,386 Times in 960 Posts
|
That's a good one Top and just about right!!
|
Bookmarks |
|
|