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Old 07-26-2019, 09:19 AM   #301
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The Dive has enough life jackets for guests and crew on board at all times. No worries there.

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In the long distant past when I was a commercial captain, the boat inspection required a PFD on board for the listed capacity of the vessel. If the capacity was 150, you had to show 150 PFD's. If you didn't meet the standard, the vessel failed inspection.
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So can those who have to look at the dive get a rebate on their “view tax”? This was not here when most people bought their properties and were assessed. Maybe they can start a “petition” similar to the people who want to keep it.
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So can those who have to look at the dive get a rebate on their “view tax”? This was not here when most people bought their properties and were assessed. Maybe they can start a “petition” similar to the people who want to keep it.
First of all it is legally moored at the pier, secondly it is not blocking their entire view only a small portion, during the summer it is not at the dock all day it travels to sandbars and in the off season it is not there at all. So over the course of the tax year how long is the small amount on blocked view really an issue probably less than 5% of the time.
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So can those who have to look at the dive get a rebate on their “view tax”? This was not here when most people bought their properties and were assessed. Maybe they can start a “petition” similar to the people who want to keep it.
There is no such thing as a view tax. If people feel that the value of their property has declined for any reason they are entitled to apply for an abatement.
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First of all it is legally moored at the pier, secondly it is not blocking their entire view only a small portion, during the summer it is not at the dock all day it travels to sandbars and in the off season it is not there at all. So over the course of the tax year how long is the small amount on blocked view really an issue probably less than 5% of the time.
This very well may be true but if I owned an affected property that has a direct view of this, and were placing it on the market for sale, then I wouldn't want it shown while "The Dive" was moored in my direct view.

The buyer would likely walk away.

A great way to kill a potential sale or rental.
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This very well may be true but if I owned an affected property that has a direct view of this, and were placing it on the market for sale, then I wouldn't want it shown while "The Dive" was moored in my direct view.

The buyer would likely walk away.

A great way to kill a potential sale or rental.
True but you may own the property but you do not own the lake.


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Exclamation ..... parallel parking only here!

Today's July 27 LaDaSun has an article with a photo: 'Weirs Beach dust-up over floating bar called The Dive' (google that) that is totally informative and incredibly well researched.

Basically, the Simpson Ave residential neighbors want The Dive to be moved to the other side of the large Pier building, close to the 220' Mount Washington cruise ship, while The Dive owners want it to remain in its' existing spot.

Here's another outcome that wasn't mentioned: simply turn the barge sideways so it is parallel parked/docked up against the Pier. At 22' wide x 62' long x 22' high with the awning, turning it sideways would reduce the silhouette from 22' high x 66' long down to a silhouette of 22' high x 22' wide which is 1/3 the size ..... simply by parallel parking .... a big difference.

Who knows, but if and when Flightcraft (landlord) seeks approval for their required amended site plan with the https://www.laconianh.gov/469/Planning-Board on September 3, it could be an easier go with the big barge parked parallel to the dock as opposed to adjacent, as it now is, which is basically a 22' high x 62' long wall that blocks the neighbor's long time held and cherished Winnipesaukee big money, water view.

How's that for a solution!

By parallel parking like this, basically everyone; Flightcraft (landlord), The Dive (tenant), & the neighbors (residential abuttors) should all be unhappy with the end result, all except for the nearby Mount Washington cruise ship which is the biggest fish in the lake. Seems that having all parties involved being dissatisfied with the result could be the best decision where everyone loses a little.
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I think the issue is that it needs spuds down to "dock" nose in to the dock. This isn't exactly a normal docking situation and it looks like that is what Laconia is objecting to. Yes the owners of those properties knew they were next to a commercial dock. There is no way they would have envisioned a floating bar docking in that manner by their property.
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I think the issue is that it needs spuds down to "dock" nose in to the dock. This isn't exactly a normal docking situation and it looks like that is what Laconia is objecting to. Yes the owners of those properties knew they were next to a commercial dock. There is no way they would have envisioned a floating bar docking in that manner by their property.
True, but it is a commercial dock as you said and has been for decade but I do agree that spuds down creates a new unique twist


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Would spuds down create a dock, and a dock extension permit be needed ?

This could go on for ever, lol
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True but you may own the property but you do not own the lake.
Nobody “owns” the lake.... including the Dive.
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True but you may own the property but you do not own the lake.
Nobody “owns” the lake.... including the Dive.
Exactly so if they are legally docked tough luck!


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Is much more normal and common for a boat to park/dock parallel to a dock as opposed to straight out like that. The Dive barge is 62' long and 22' high with a width of 22' as well. If it was 102' long, would it still be ok to occupy that spot like that, directly in front of the Simpson Ave homes?

The lake belongs to the people of NH, so by occupying that water spot on the lake with their "spuds down" into the bottom, they are effectively taking possession of state property for operating their business.
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Wrong. The state of New Hampshire owns the lake.
It is public property. As a resident of NH I am effectively one of many "owners" of the lake.
Personally I don't think the dive is an appropriate use of the lake.
From reading the LDS article it appears the owner is an arrogant prick with NO clue in public relations. I suspect he will be forced to move that piece of crap somewhere else. Hopefully somewhere like Kentucky
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Wrong. The state of New Hampshire owns the lake.
It is public property. As a resident of NH I am effectively one of many "owners" of the lake.
Personally I don't think the dive is an appropriate use of the lake.
From reading the LDS article it appears the owner is an arrogant prick with NO clue in public relations. I suspect he will be forced to move that piece of crap somewhere else. Hopefully somewhere like Kentucky
No effectively you own nothing!!! Just because the state owns it doesn’t mean you do at all. Totally your opinion but they obtained 1000s of signatures in their support. You may not like it but tough luck again as long as it is legally docked not thing one you can do. You seem more arrogant than the owners.


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No effectively you own nothing!!! Just because the state owns it doesn’t mean you do at all. Totally your opinion but they obtained 1000s of signatures in their support. You may not like it but tough luck again as long as it is legally docked not thing one you can do. You seem more arrogant than the owners.


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No effectively you own nothing!!! Just because the state owns it doesn’t mean you do at all. Totally your opinion but they obtained 1000s of signatures in their support. You may not like it but tough luck again as long as it is legally docked not thing one you can do. You seem more arrogant than the owners.


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The signatures don't mean a thing, since none of them come from people affected by The Dive. That's like asking people in MA if NH should have an income tax.

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The signatures don't mean a thing, since none of them come from people affected by The Dive. That's like asking people in MA if NH should have an income tax.

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No my point is that there are some in favor and some opposed to the Dive. No individual or group of individuals own the lake and as long as it is docked legally there is not much the “affected “ people can do.

As I stated however the use of spuds could be an issue and to whether it is decided if it is or is not legally docked.


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No effectively you own nothing!!! Just because the state owns it doesn’t mean you do at all. Totally your opinion but they obtained 1000s of signatures in their support. You may not like it but tough luck again as long as it is legally docked not thing one you can do. You seem more arrogant than the owners.

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1. !!!, hmm, the more exclamation points you use don't actually affect the strength of your argument.
2. 12 million signatures wouldn't change my opinion of the dive.
3. There might be "not one thing you (I) can do" but how does that matter. Whats your point?
4. Do you know the definition of arrogant? Please explain how you feel I am arrogant.
5. Why are you SO ANGRY about this?
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1. !!!, hmm, the more exclamation points you use don't actually affect the strength of your argument.
2. 12 million signatures wouldn't change my opinion of the dive.
3. There might be "not one thing you (I) can do" but how does that matter. Whats your point?
4. Do you know the definition of arrogant? Please explain how you feel I am arrogant.
5. Why are you SO ANGRY about this?
I am not angry about this at all just voicing my position as you are and I am not trying to change your mind we are all entitled to our own opinion.
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From reading the LDS article it appears the owner is an arrogant prick with NO clue in public relations.

Does your analogy also include the folks that have supported the dive that have no access to the lake?
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I think Kawishiwi is spot on with his arrogance comment. Dive owner felt he could pull up to Alton town docks and take on passengers without any permit, permission or discussion with the town. Early on last summer when The Dive started up some posters voiced their concern on The Dive FB page. Merriam responded that his family/he contributed greatly for building the lake into the attraction it is today, essentially saying I can do what I want because of my family contribution. Interesting that post was deleted shortly after posting it. Not sure who the Merriams are. We all know who the Irwins are. Love them or hate them the Irwins are more responsible than any other family for the attraction the lake is today. It seems as if Merriam thought he could build a barge and did not plan out how or where he could conduct his business. Just ask for forgiveness later if some one complains.
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We all know who the Irwins are. Love them or hate them the Irwins are more responsible than any other family for the attraction the lake is today.
Interesting post. While I'm not expressing an opinion about the Irwins, what have they done, other than run a for profit business selling boats, to make the lake "the attraction the lake is today"?
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What "analogy" are you referencing?
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What "analogy" are you referencing?
No need to repeat your vulgar comments. You made it clear you don't like the dive. I'm guessing you feel the same about the Mount Washington. (No further comments on this subject.)
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I think Kawishiwi is spot on with his arrogance comment. Dive owner felt he could pull up to Alton town docks and take on passengers without any permit, permission or discussion with the town.
Is that "arrogance" or "ignorance?"

If the owners KNEW they couldn't do it legally yet tried, then yeah, it's arrogance.

If they didn't know (and didn't check beforehand) than I submit it is ignorance.
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Interesting post. While I'm not expressing an opinion about the Irwins, what have they done, other than run a for profit business selling boats, to make the lake "the attraction the lake is today"?
Running a successful business for 100 years and providing 100';s of jobs is an acceptable answer, and stands on its own, but there's more.
The Irwins don't just sell bots. Jim Irwin Sr, as a musician, came to Laconia and built several businesses and promoted them outside the area to bring tourists that benefitted the region. He built and ran Irwin's Winnipesaukee Gardens, the boardwalk, The Miss Winnipesaukee Speedboatsthe list goes on. One popular spot on the Boardwalk used to be a BINGO hall; proceeds all went to charity. Of course, Jim Sr. was a leader of the group that brought the Chateguay to Lake Winnipesaukee when the old Mount burned in 1939. Later, Jim Jr. and Jack organized many events at the Weirs that brought people and business to the region. One that sticks in my mind was safe boating week run in conjunction with the Boston Herald Traveler for many years. As President of the Marine Trades Association he invited the ENTIRE NH Legislature to spend a day on the lake with their families, and recruited boat owners to host them and take them to various places around the lake, wherever they wanted to go. A huge undertaking in my mind.
Yes, partially business related, but helping all businesses in the area with promotions builds the region, not just Irwin Marine. BTW, I think thew Irwins were involved along with the Lavallees, in getting the beach at the Weirs built, and renaming the area from the Weirs to "Weirs Beach".
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Descant, I agree with most everything you have posted about the ancient history of the family. Most of what you posted occurred a minimum of 40 years ago and much of it was 50 - 60 years ago. No doubt, back in their day, they contributed to the growth of the area and substantially grew their business and profits.

What has the current generation done other than sell boats? None of the many things you posted makes the lake the "attraction it is today" That is my point.

Yes, many years ago there was a dance hall with bands in the Pier but the current structure is an eyesore, structurally declining, and one of the reasons keeping the Weirs area from substantial improvements.

Who would invest in a new structure or substantial capital improvements in Weirs Beach with the Pier in the middle of their investment?

Look forward, not backwards.
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Descant, I agree with most everything you have posted about the ancient history of the family. Most of what you posted occurred a minimum of 40 years ago and much of it was 50 - 60 years ago. No doubt, back in their day, they contributed to the growth of the area and substantially grew their business and profits.

What has the current generation done other than sell boats? None of the many things you posted makes the lake the "attraction it is today" That is my point.

Yes, many years ago there was a dance hall with bands in the Pier but the current structure is an eyesore, structurally declining, and one of the reasons keeping the Weirs area from substantial improvements.

Who would invest in a new structure or substantial capital improvements in Weirs Beach with the Pier in the middle of their investment?

Look forward, not backwards.
The irwins still help the area greatly. Employ many etc. This is a fact. What have you done? Easy go pass judgment from a keyboard.
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Descant, I agree with most everything you have posted about the ancient history of the family. Most of what you posted occurred a minimum of 40 years ago and much of it was 50 - 60 years ago. No doubt, back in their day, they contributed to the growth of the area and substantially grew their business and profits.

What has the current generation done other than sell boats? None of the many things you posted makes the lake the "attraction it is today" That is my point.

Yes, many years ago there was a dance hall with bands in the Pier but the current structure is an eyesore, structurally declining, and one of the reasons keeping the Weirs area from substantial improvements.

Who would invest in a new structure or substantial capital improvements in Weirs Beach with the Pier in the middle of their investment?

Look forward, not backwards.
The only thing I would say about the pier structure currently is that East Coast Flight Craft has invest significantly in the pier and plans are to close Anthony’s after the season and the building will go through a major renovation project.


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None of the many things you posted makes the lake the attraction it is today

The Mount doesnt make a difference? What the Irwins did 40, 50, 60 years ago absolutely shaped the lake and what it is today. People didnt all of a sudden wake up in the 80s and 90s and say hey lets start vacationing at Winnipesaukee. They came because people like the Irwins. Made it an attraction for their family & friends who probably brought their friends to see the beautiful lake. The attraction it is today is just the natural progression from the attraction it was then.


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This thread was about The Dive, not the Irwins

Lets face it, some like The Dive, others do not.

Personally I feel its a NH small business that should be left alone to operate his business within the law to whatever success he can muster
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The irwins still help the area greatly. Employ many etc. This is a fact. What have you done? Easy go pass judgment from a keyboard.
If you are going to state something as a fact, make sure your facts are correct. In this case you are not. The Irwin's are not running the operation anymore, and have not been in charge for many years.

What have I done? I have invested millions in multiple commercial and residential properties in the Weirs Beach area and spent a substantial amount of money to improve them. It is for that reason that I hope to see the area improve.

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Personally I feel its a NH small business that should be left alone to operate his business within the law to whatever success he can muster
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No need to repeat your vulgar comments. You made it clear you don't like the dive. I'm guessing you feel the same about the Mount Washington. (No further comments on this subject.)
What I feel about the Mount has no bearing on my opinion of the dive. Nice try trying to muddy the water and make some obscure charge about something you have no knowledge of to...to...to somehow suggest I must be a miscreant cause I must hate the mount, motherhood & apple pie? I used the word 'crap' and you were offended? Really? I am so sorry I offended your sensitive sensibilities with the word 'crap'. Oh crap, I did it again!
You are correct sir, I don't like the dive. Just exactly why are you so bothered by that?
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I know this post may not be popular with some. The Dive like it or not is a licensed NH business. Nothing at all will be done this year and perhaps license requirement changes may affect how they operate in the future. They were approved by all authorities to operate where they are and thats it.
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Saw this and thought it was pretty funny.
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HA-HA-HA!!!

I know my very first post on this forum wasn't at all popular because I listed the "entertainment value" as just one of my reasons for liking it- no one said welcome to the forum, and that's OK.

At the risk of sounding redundant- this thread just makes me feel better!

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HA-HA-HA!!!

I know my very first post on this forum wasn't at all popular because I listed the "entertainment value" as just one of my reasons for liking it- no one said welcome to the forum, and that's OK.

At the risk of sounding redundant- this thread just makes me feel better!

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Default A well balanced article

Not sure how we missed this before (or maybe I'm the only one who missed it, haha)--great piece in the LDS:

On whether the owners and neighbors are each being reasonable: The owners of a bar have Jimmy Buffet on at low volume until 9 or 10pm--sounds very reasonable to me. The neighbors don't like music drifting every night from a bar that is only 100' from their homes--sounds very reasonable to me.

On whether this is legal (and therefore should be allowed regardless of complaints): The Planning Board must approve for them to continue beyond Sep 3, and the Board may consider neighbors' concerns. So they're legal today, but maybe not tomorrow.

If only our tirades were so well balanced

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https://www.laconiadailysun.com/news...b2d7a083b.html
It was posted and discussed with a link to the July 26th LDS article in post 308.
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I finally decided to go check out the dive today. Unfortunately I was not able to. It appears that they overlooked the impact water would have on the deck. They constructed it using particleboard and consequently are close down this week to replace it.
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I finally decided to go check out the dive today. Unfortunately I was not able to. It appears that they overlooked the impact water would have on the deck. They constructed it using particleboard and consequently are close down this week to replace it.
Wow! Doesn't sound like an experienced "engineer" to me...man, a deck should be a marine grade plywood...no brainer.
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I finally decided to go check out the dive today. Unfortunately I was not able to. It appears that they overlooked the impact water would have on the deck. They constructed it using particleboard and consequently are close down this week to replace it.
According to their Facebook page they are closed today and tomorrow, reopening Friday
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Poor construction (closed due to water in non-marine grade materials)... poor captain (Smith Point crash) poor business plan. Sounds like a match made in heaven�� maybe the owner should have stayed with his trampoline

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Poor construction (closed due to water in non-marine grade materials)... poor captain (Smith Point crash) poor business plan. Sounds like a match made in heaven😀
First of all the "crash" was not a crash the Dive saw seeking safe harbor during a storm, yes they did not anticipate water on the deck but you cannot call it a bad business plan when the Dive is packed every time it ventures to a sandbar and their evening events and charters are always sold out.

Yes some kinks to work out, remember it has not even been open for a full season yet and based on attendance I think they are moving in the right direction
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First of all the "crash" was not a crash the Dive saw seeking safe harbor during a storm, yes they did not anticipate water on the deck but you cannot call it a bad business plan when the Dive is packed every time it ventures to a sandbar and their evening events and charters are always sold out.

Yes some kinks to work out, remember it has not even been open for a full season yet and based on attendance I think they are moving in the right direction
From my understanding; it takes three years to determine a restaurants chances. The first year can be very busy with the curious and adventurous people. The second year is when we learn if word of mouth is on their side. The third year is when we find out if theyve created a loyal clientele. If we make any call before that we have about the same chance as a New Hampshire weather forecaster.
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With the platform, a barge, that they built upon, and the speed at which she travels I don't think there is any reason to be concerned with a tipping issue.

The engines and their longevity are of course in question. As with all the other barges I see around the lake I will not be surprised to see engines being replaced, from time to time... The beauty of outboards is that swapping them out should be pretty straight forward.

If I owned the Dive, I would be strongly considering going to an external tug to move around the lake with, and making the barge just that a barge..... A separate tug can be setup, to have much more thrust power to push that barge around, and have a very reliable and long lasting diesel engine....
A barge goes by here in Winter Harbor, nearly every day. It is pushed by a separate "tug" powered by a pair of Yamaha outboards. Not only is it quiet, it's amazingly fast, leaves a small wake, and pushes an impressive bow wave!
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Two times last week, we saw the Dive heading towards Braun Bay, coming from the northwest beyond Bear Island. Curious where she has been during the night. She moves right along for her size. 🐻
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Every night the Dive returns to the Weirs Dock.

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Every night the Dive returns to the Weirs Dock.

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Hmmm - did I have a typo?

I see Don already corrected whatever it was, thanks Don !
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quote... if and when Flightcraft (landlord) seeks approval for their required amended site plan with the https://www.laconianh.gov/469/Planning-Board on September 3? ... quote

Well ..... today is Sept 4, so anyone know what happened, if anything, at last night's Sept 3 Laconia Planning Board meeting?
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quote... if and when Flightcraft (landlord) seeks approval for their required amended site plan with the https://www.laconianh.gov/469/Planning-Board on September 3? ... quote

Well ..... today is Sept 4, so anyone know what happened, if anything, at last night's Sept 3 Laconia Planning Board meeting?
Also before the Board is changing the Colonial Theatre from "Ownership" to "Condominium"
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quote... if and when Flightcraft (landlord) seeks approval for their required amended site plan with the https://www.laconianh.gov/469/Planning-Board on September 3? ... quote

Well ..... today is Sept 4, so anyone know what happened, if anything, at last night's Sept 3 Laconia Planning Board meeting?
The Dive was not on the agenda and was not discussed.
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"Planning Director Dean Trefethen said The Dive can continue its present operations at the pier in the short term and before the Sept 3 Planning Board meeting. That's when the issue will be taken up if the owner of the pier, East Coast Flightcraft desides to continue to host The Dive."

Quote from July 27 LaDaSun report ..... see link to 'an article' at top of my old post #308

Oh well ........ who knows ....... and who really gives a puh-tootie?
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The nice young man at the gas dock tonight said the Dive hadnt been open in a few days. Any news since the meeting on September 3?
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Hey ..... for $9500 in Wilmington, Vermont ..... here's the perfect used tour boat for a second 'The Dive'

..... 53' long x 18' wide .... formerly the Mt Hills tour boat, a pontoon that weighs about 15 tons with two Volvo Penta diesel inboards

..... price: $9500 ...... not too shabby! ..... would they let it go for $5000 ..... maybe, just to unload it?

https://vermont.craigslist.org/boa/d...974004333.html

..... with six photos except for some unknown reason, this link does not work here.
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Hey ..... for $9500 in Wilmington, Vermont ..... here's the perfect used tour boat for a second 'The Dive'

..... 53' long x 18' wide .... formerly the Mt Hills tour boat, a pontoon that weighs about 15 tons with two Volvo Penta diesel inboards

..... price: $9500 ...... not too shabby! ..... would they let it go for $5000 ..... maybe, just to unload it?

https://vermont.craigslist.org/boa/d...974004333.html

..... with six photos except for some unknown reason, this link does not work here.
Does anybody know how to move it from there to here?
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Does anybody know how to move it from there to here?
Length is not an issue, the 18' with sure is .

I would guess it would have to be split down the middle lengthwise and transported like one of those double-wide mobile homes.
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Does anybody know how to move it from there to here?
Moving it from a wooded shoreline area in Wilmington, Vermont to Lake Winnipesaukee will definitely be a big challenge.

At 18' wide, it is 9.5' wider than the maximum standard width of 8.5' for travel on the Vermont and New Hampshire roads. The length of 53' is the exact same length as a 53' flat bed trailer capable of hauling about 25-ton. Its' height could require the artificial smoke stacks to be removed.

Probably, best to get www.milesmarine.com in Gilford to get the needed state permits and make the move happen at 5:30-am on a sunny Sunday morning.

At $9500 or less, seems like a real fixer-upper, steal of a deal ..... especially if the two Volvo diesel engines are still running or easily made to run.

Fixing it up could be a wonderful winter, fixer-upper project, for The Dive at the West Alton Marina, this winter!

Introducing The Dive #2 ...... informally named the #2. ...

With two pontoons and two diesel inboards, the #2 could probably beat the pants off the 22'x62' barge powered with two Evinrude 2-stroke outboards that putt putt along at 4-mph. How fast could the #2 be expected to move ...... maybe 16-mph ..... or four times as fast ..... or, maybe 12-mph .... or three times as fast?
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At 18' wide, it is 9.5' wider than the maximum standard width of 8.5' for travel on the Vermont and New Hampshire roads.
Maximum width nationwide without permits is 8 Ft 6 inches.
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The linked story mentions disassembly & transport. Of course..."some (re-)assembly required".
I would guess it would break down to fit on a flatbed without need for special permits.
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That's what he said, correct? 8.5' does equal 8 feet 6 inches.
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