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Old 04-15-2013, 01:24 PM   #1
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http://www.wmur.com/escape-outside/C...z/-/index.html

The Coast Gaurd Auxillary is teaming up with our Marine patrol this summer!
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you had me for a second.
I thought it was the real Coast Guard not the club
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Default That guy in the middle sure looks familiar :)

I wonder who that would be....might even be a forum member
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Old 04-15-2013, 05:17 PM   #4
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Just had dinner with him and the family Saturday night

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Did you know that the Coast Guard is looking for recruits who are very tall, like 6'4" and taller and in case you were wondering why; it's because the Coast Guard is known as the Shallow Water Navy!
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Billy Bob:

I hope that your reference to "the club" was just a joke. When you see a US Coast Guard Auxiliary facility (boat) you can be assured that it is manned by highly skilled search and rescue personnel with years of experiance and training to assist the CG and the public.

Did you ever notice that the news never seems to get it right. The Auxiliary and the NHMP are working together, a great new relationship but it won't be underway. The Auxiliary will be mostly working on public education and vessel exams. That is where the news got off course.

The great part of the Irwin show (Thanks Irwins) was to build on a relationship with the US Power Squadron. They are excellent people and really know their stuff. I can remember my step dad doing power squadron work on the Lake in the 50s. So if you hear of the USPS doing public education or vessel exams jump on it.

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Billy Bob:

I hope that your reference to "the club" was just a joke. When you see a US Coast Guard Auxiliary facility (boat) you can be assured that it is manned by highly skilled search and rescue personnel with years of experiance and training to assist the CG and the public.

Did you ever notice that the news never seems to get it right. The Auxiliary and the NHMP are working together, a great new relationship but it won't be underway. The Auxiliary will be mostly working on public education and vessel exams. That is where the news got off course.

The great part of the Irwin show (Thanks Irwins) was to build on a relationship with the US Power Squadron. They are excellent people and really know their stuff. I can remember my step dad doing power squadron work on the Lake in the 50s. So if you hear of the USPS doing public education or vessel exams jump on it.

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Thank you, as a member of the Lakes Region Power Squadron, your kind words are appreciated. The education that USPS and USCG Aux do on land will take pressure off the MP on the water!

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In December 1975, who called the Coast Guard's action to patrol Lake Winnipesaukee this:

"a blatant usurpation of the sovereignty of our state"
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Default Oooooohhhhhh, Mr Kotter Mr Kotter

said Horshack with his hand waving wildly....It was the Gov.....Gov. Thompson!!!
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said Horshack with his hand waving wildly....It was the Gov.....Gov. Thompson!!!
Correct! I wonder what he is thinking right now...in the hereafter that is.

I didn't know that he didn't want the Coast Guard on the Lake until I read this story in the Union Leader:

http://www.unionleader.com/article/2...RE03/130429216
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Default Honesty is the best policy...

....and Rusty, I didn't know until I read the article just before coming on Winni.com.....almost like cheating, isn't it.
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....and Rusty, I didn't know until I read the article just before coming on Winni.com.....almost like cheating, isn't it.
It just proves that you are a well read person.


Remember the Guardian Angels? They started off as a volunteer organization to combat widespread violence and crime on the New York City Subways. They wear red berets so everyone will know who they are. I guess they are still active and have chapters all over the world.

Could the Coast Guard Auxiliary be doing the same-thing that the Guardian Angels are doing? Protecting the public from all the bad boaters.
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Does anyone know if the open container law for adult beverages such as beer DOES NOT apply to boats? It obviously applies to cars, but is it also the law for boats? At least one inquiring mind here wants to know!

From todays Union Leader email comments dept: "I was wondering why there is not an "open" container law when it comes to boats. Is there something special about them that makes them safer when the passengers are all drunk, as opposed to drunk passengers in an automobile?"
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Does anyone know if the open container law for adult beverages such as beer DOES NOT apply to boats? It obviously applies to cars, but is it also the law for boats? At least one inquiring mind here wants to know!

From todays Union Leader email comments dept: "I was wondering why there is not an "open" container law when it comes to boats. Is there something special about them that makes them safer when the passengers are all drunk, as opposed to drunk passengers in an automobile?"
There is no open container law for adult beverages on boats
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....well...well...well...if this is truly the way the law was written....then hat's off to the 424-member NH state legislature for including this notable exclusion into the open container law (?)!
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Does anyone know if the open container law for adult beverages such as beer DOES NOT apply to boats? It obviously applies to cars, but is it also the law for boats? At least one inquiring mind here wants to know!

From todays Union Leader email comments dept: "I was wondering why there is not an "open" container law when it comes to boats. Is there something special about them that makes them safer when the passengers are all drunk, as opposed to drunk passengers in an automobile?"
Although there's no open container law for passengers on a boat, unlike autos, there can be multiple BUI's. People acting as lookouts/navigating or person having an essential role in navigation or control of propulsion can't have an open container or be above the limit.
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Although there's no open container law for passengers on a boat, unlike autos, there can be multiple BUI's. People acting as lookouts/navigating or person having an essential role in navigation or control of propulsion can't have an open container or be above the limit.
Please show me the NH Law that states that.
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Please show me the NH Law that states that.
"I was wondering why there is not an "open" container law when it comes to boats. Is there something special about them that makes them safer when the passengers are all drunk, as opposed to drunk passengers in an automobile?"

I was pointing out what I believe is the difference between boating or driving with open container laws.
I am not sure about NH law but I found this from the Coast Guard.
I had remembered being told this by Marine Patrol in Fla. while boating...again, not sure about NH state law but I would assume it's similar. The key word is "operating". Unlike an auto, the guy behind the wheel isn't the only "operator".


USCG 95.015 Operating a vessel.
For purposes of this part, an individual is considered to be operating a vessel when:
(a) The individual has an essential role in the operation of a recreational vessel underway, including but not limited to navigation of the vessel or control of the vessel's propulsion system.
(b) The individual is a crewmember (including an officer), pilot, or watchstander not a regular member of the crew, of a vessel other than a recreational vessel.
[CGD 84-099, 52 FR 47532, Dec. 14, 1987, as amended at USCG-2006-24371, 74 FR 11211, Mar. 16, 2009]
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The lake generates a great deal of income for the state with hotel taxes and other related tourism fees not to mention the thousands of boats that are registered on the lake each year. It seems unreasonable that the state then isen't in a position to properly staff the MP on this lake or other lakes during the short season we have.
The USCGA are nice people , well trained I an sure , but not an appropriate substitute for state employees with proper police authority.

If New Hampshire doesn't want to handle the lake with the proper staffing then perhaps its time to call in the ( real ) Coast Guard . Having a group of unpaid citizen volunteers in private boats running around in uniforms will turn this into a Mel Brooks movie .
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Not these guys. They get a little agitated around presidential candidates. No sense of humor and the safety checks are tough.
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What was the auxiilary we had several years ago? Was that the MP auxiliary? It couldn't have been the Coast Guard. They were allowed to stop you and talk to you but not arrest.
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This has been blown WAY out of proportion. Last year I was at the safety summit where Safe Boaters of NH, The Power Squadron, US coast guard Aux and the MP attended. The C.G. Aux, simply discussed the ability to train with their boats and act as eyes and ears for the MP. They in no way would be an enforcement agency or going to act as one. They would assist when asked and report any major issues to the MP. The Marine Patrol over the past few years has been rolled under the state police and funding has been cut. This is a great way of supporting them, to no cost to the state. These Coast Guard Aux guys are very well trained in what they are doing. Also they are also just trying to promote more involvement. The media is trying to blow it up into something it is not due to the history with the governor back in the 1970's. Don't get wrapped into it as a federal vs state issue. They aren't looking to put cutters on the lake; only to practice on their own dime as auxiliary and radio anything in.
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This has been blown WAY out of proportion. Last year I was at the safety summit where Safe Boaters of NH, The Power Squadron, US coast guard Aux and the MP attended. The C.G. Aux, simply discussed the ability to train with their boats and act as eyes and ears for the MP. They in no way would be an enforcement agency or going to act as one. They would assist when asked and report any major issues to the MP. The Marine Patrol over the past few years has been rolled under the state police and funding has been cut. This is a great way of supporting them, to no cost to the state. These Coast Guard Aux guys are very well trained in what they are doing. Also they are also just trying to promote more involvement. The media is trying to blow it up into something it is not due to the history with the governor back in the 1970's. Don't get wrapped into it as a federal vs state issue. They aren't looking to put cutters on the lake; only to practice on their own dime as auxiliary and radio anything in.
I haven't read anything that has been blown "WAY" out of proportion. The media gave us a little historical information about how a certain Governor felt about the Coast Guard wanting to patrol the Lake.

I personally don't think that any part of the Coast Guard should be having training exercises on Lake Winnipesaukee. Doesn't the aux have enough to do with assisting the Coast Guard? That is the reason they were formed back in 1914.

I think Lake Winnipesukee is being patrolled and kept safe by the members of the NH Marine Patrol and anything to do with the federal government should be kept out.

The Chief Director of the Auxiliary is an active duty Coast Guard officer holding the rank of Captain. Therefore they are run by the Coast Guard even though it is a voluntary aux.
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Sorry, I should have prefaced this that at many levels this has been blown way out of proportion. Forums and the newspapers are not always the best reflection as to what is actually happening in Concord and at the State level. Since the articles have come out: The Governor's office has been flooded with calls and the Marine Patrol have been receiving emails and calls as well. Many Representatives and Senators have reached out to me asking what this is all about: many under the false impression that the Coast Guard is "taking over the lake" which couldn't be further from the truth. There is discussion about a bill being brought forth to restrict this unfortunately.

I will let Misty handle the specifics but again please make clear in your posts the difference between Coast Guard and Coast Guard Aux. There is a distinguished line between the two.

Please do some research before making comments like: "being patrolled"and "the federal government" for you are giving a false pretense.

The Chief Director may be in charge of the force but that does not mean the Aux has the authority to enforce NH specific laws.

I for one am happy to have such experienced individuals available, at their own expense, to assist when called on. Rather than Johnny whistleblower calling in for every infraction they deem wrong; these trained and highly skilled individuals can help avert boating issues by having the education to recognize a situation before becoming dangerous. Also to assist in rescues if needed and/or assist when requested by the MP.
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Greenwood Lake is a little lake that spans the northern border of New Jersey ....and.. New York...running north and south.

Back in the fifties, the US Coast Guard had a presence on the lake in the summer. They had their own boats and crew. They were stationed there and were quartered in a local hotel for the summer.

The Key Word was ..INTERSTATE. It was an interstate lake. That's why they were there. NB
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Sorry, I should have prefaced this that at many levels this has been blown way out of proportion. Forums and the newspapers are not always the best reflection as to what is actually happening in Concord and at the State level. Since the articles have come out: The Governor's office has been flooded with calls and the Marine Patrol have been receiving emails and calls as well. Many Representatives and Senators have reached out to me asking what this is all about: many under the false impression that the Coast Guard is "taking over the lake" which couldn't be further from the truth. There is discussion about a bill being brought forth to restrict this unfortunately.

I will let Misty handle the specifics but again please make clear in your posts the difference between Coast Guard and Coast Guard Aux. There is a distinguished line between the two.

Please do some research before making comments like: "being patrolled"and "the federal government" for you are giving a false pretense.

The Chief Director may be in charge of the force but that does not mean the Aux has the authority to enforce NH specific laws.

I for one am happy to have such experienced individuals available, at their own expense, to assist when called on. Rather than Johnny whistleblower calling in for every infraction they deem wrong; these trained and highly skilled individuals can help avert boating issues by having the education to recognize a situation before becoming dangerous. Also to assist in rescues if needed and/or assist when requested by the MP.
Maybe the Aux shouldn't talk to the media if it doesn't like what it prints.

The headlines of a LDS article states this: "A first, Coast Guard plans presence on big lake this summer"

Then a member of the Aux says this:

"Sean Skillings of Milton, staff officer for public affairs, said that while the Auxiliary has been teaching marine safety and inspecting vessels on the lake for many years, this year it will also patrol the lake this summer"

I know they don't have any law enforcement authority but the least they could do is make sure that any newspaper they give an interview to will write exactly what was said...if in fact that article isn't telling the truth.

BTW, I always do research before saying anything.
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Maybe the Aux shouldn't talk to the media if it doesn't like what it prints.

The headlines of a LDS article states this: "A first, Coast Guard plans presence on big lake this summer"

Then a member of the Aux says this:

"Sean Skillings of Milton, staff officer for public affairs, said that while the Auxiliary has been teaching marine safety and inspecting vessels on the lake for many years, this year it will also patrol the lake this summer"

I know they don't have any law enforcement authority but the least they could do is make sure that any newspaper they give an interview to will write exactly what was said...if in fact that article isn't telling the truth.

BTW, I always do research before saying anything.
Rusty with all your vast infinite knowledge of just about everything, you of all people should know that what is said and what is often quoted or printed by the media are often two different things.
It seems like your whole day is to spent researching things posted just to pick them apart and make negative comments. Seems to me you should find a hobby or something
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With three, four or five people on-board someone's private boat, and supposedly all wearing the quasi-military style uniforms of the Coast Guard Auxiliary and presumably equipped with a video camera since their primary role is "To maintain situational awareness at all times!" .... say-hey.....just maybe they could be receptive to towing a water skier when they are not too busy and making a video too as a little sideline service?

Probably, be a lot easier to hook up for a water ski tow if you are a good-look'n girlie in a nice, hot swimsuit....doncha know-it ..........ookey-dookey.....hit-it......Commodore!

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Rusty with all your vast infinite knowledge of just about everything, you of all people should know that what is said and what is often quoted or printed by the media are often two different things.
It seems like your whole day is to spent researching things posted just to pick them apart and make negative comments. Seems to me you should find a hobby or something
VERY well stated. It reminds me of the commercial where the

Girl says: "I read it on the internet so it must be true"

Guy: "Where'd you hear that?"

Girl: "The internet"

Basically the media is trying to relate it to the same issue that ensued in the 1970's when this is a completely different issue. However, many people still remember Governor Thompson and the media frenzy that was caused. It seems the papers are trying to link the two together to cause yet the same media frenzy which is only a detriment to the cause.

But guess what folks the media is a business. The more controversy the more papers they sell. So why would they ever misrepresent a story or leave out a word or two to grab readers attention? Maybe we will never know.
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Anyone who actually believes what the media prints and what the internet says is the fact should check in at the local mental health center.

I really think the MP did a great job patrolling with what little manpower that they had, yet there are still a lot of mishaps and close mishaps during the season that should have not happen. I just notice when I put my registration sticker on the boat this year that I have actually forgot to put on last year sticker! I have been out on the lake countless of hours and I am a surprised no one notice!?!?!?! You think the wrong color would have triggered a check?

The MP is too busy for routine checks, which was common in the past. I used to get stopped for a safety check at least once a year. This did not happen in the last few years. I think it is time for the USCGA to step up to the plate and provide safety check and power boat courses which I think will go a long way to educating the public common sense and safety. The state boat certificate provided safety sense but no boating skills.

Let's stop bickering and for once get on the same track and educate those boneheads so that we can have a safe place to boat. Unless you are one of the boneheads that are afraid of being educated and caught it is for your own good.
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The MP is too busy for routine checks, which was common in the past. I used to get stopped for a safety check at least once a year. This did not happen in the last few years. I think it is time for the USCGA to step up to the plate and provide safety check and power boat courses which I think will go a long way to educating the public common sense and safety.

Let's stop bickering and for once get on the same track and educate those boneheads so that we can have a safe place to boat.
Well I certainly do NOT welcome the CG Auxillary to do unwarranted safety check stops to peaceful boaters on the lake and not sure why on earth you would want that type of intrusion! That is not their job and that is not my understanding of what they will be doing. Voluntary safety vessel checks at docks, sure, absolutely it's a great service, but no way do I condone the Auxillary "patrolling" the waters looking for vessels to board and checked at their discretion...NO WAY!

Also, since when is Winnipesaukee an unsafe place to boat?? During the entire speed limit debate you and many members of SBONH (including myself) relied on the safety history of the lake as the backbone to the argument against speed limits. Now all of a sudden the lake is unsafe without the CG Auxillary??... What gives you can't have it both ways??...

Personally I think the Marine patrol has been doing a great job even with their limited budget and the lake is and has been a safe and fun place for families to enjoy without any further town, state or federal intrusion.

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I did not mean that the auxilary should stop boats and do safety checks although the MP use to do it in the past. Why did the MP stop now? Just walking along the public docks, I can see boats with unsufficient life vests etc. I have not notice in the past.

How could one possibly boat a whole year without the required registration sticker? Makes me wonder how many unregistered boats are out there.

I called in early last summer that the northwest marker of the Witches being misplaced. As of last fall, the bouy was still in the wrong place. Have the MP stopped maintaining the bouys? A number of folks on this site noticed and called in.

As for safety, try kayaking, canoeing or sailing on the lake, I had many closed calls. How about the 150' rule. I've been buzzed numerous time, close enough to be sprayed. I can see where the speed limit supporters are coming from but speed is not the issue.

I'm not knocking the MPs. They do one heck of a job covering the lake, but it clearly shows they need more manpower.
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Well I certainly do NOT welcome the CG Auxillary to do unwarranted safety check stops to peaceful boaters on the lake and not sure why on earth you would want that type of intrusion! That is not their job and that is not my understanding of what they will be doing. Voluntary safety vessel checks at docks, sure, absolutely it's a great service, but no way do I condone the Auxillary "patrolling" the waters looking for vessels to board and checked at their discretion...NO WAY!

Also, since when is Winnipesaukee an unsafe place to boat?? During the entire speed limit debate you and many members of SBONH (including myself) relied on the safety history of the lake as the backbone to the argument against speed limits. Now all of a sudden the lake is unsafe without the CG Auxillary??... What gives you can't have it both ways??...

Personally I think the Marine patrol has been doing a great job even with their limited budget and the lake is and has been a safe and fun place for families to enjoy without any further town, state or federal intrusion.

Why fix what isn't broke?

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Very well said Dan!

The US Coast Guard Auxiliary should volunteer to report to the NH MP and take their Aux uniform off while on the Lake. If the NH MP wants to give them a uniform that makes them feel that they are part of the MP then go ahead and do it.

If the Aux has so much time on their hands that they can volunteer to patrol Lake Winnipesaukee then make them part of a volunteer force of the NH MP.

We don’t need people dressed up like US military police patrolling NH's inland waters.

Maybe I’ll dig out my old Air Force uniform and wear it while boating on the Lake. Then I’ll get my boat painted red, white, and blue and put antennas all over it. That should keep people in line when they see me.
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In the late 1970's NH boats had those small boat license plates and there was no reciprocity agreement between Massachusetts and New Hampshire which was a money-maker for New Hampshire since boats towing their Mass registered boats to New Hampshire had to purchase a NH boat license plate in addition to their Mass hull numbers registration.

By allowing the Coast Guard to patrol Lake Winnipesaukee, the State of NH would have had to agree to reciprocity with the other 49-states and Gov Thompson probably thought that would be a money loser for NH.

So's....just don't forget to smile and wave when you go past a Coast Guard Auxiliary boat becuz u will probably be on their candid camera.

So's..... best to be polite.....and not flip them the bird or throw empty beer bottles or anything?
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Personally I couldn't stand Thomson when he was Governor...however..He was a strong proponent of state sovereignty and so am I.
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[QUOTE=BroadHopper;203147]I did not mean that the auxilary should stop boats and do safety checks although the MP use to do it in the past. Why did the MP stop now? Probably because stopping someone without just cause is deemed unconstitutional. I for one would be very upset to be stopped for no reason at all! We do not live in a police state!Just walking along the public docks, I can see boats with unsufficient life vests etc. I can't comment on this since I don't go around looking at other peoples boats for safety infractions. I go boating for the pleasure aspect of it. I have not notice in the past.

How could one possibly boat a whole year without the required registration sticker? Probably because the Marine Patrol are keeping their eyes on more important SAFETY infractions. Makes me wonder how many unregistered boats are out there. Who cares, it's not for you and I to worry about, they will eventually get caught.

I called in early last summer that the northwest marker of the Witches being misplaced. As of last fall, the bouy was still in the wrong place. Have the MP stopped maintaining the bouys? A number of folks on this site noticed and called in. I too have called in many missing markers and in every instance the Marine Patrol responded very quickly, usually the same day.

As for safety, try kayaking, canoeing or sailing on the lake, I had many closed calls. How about the 150' rule. You really want to know what I think of the 150' rule... I think it's the most ridiculous rule we have on the lake! Do you honestly get scared if someone goes by 100' from you? If so try boating anywhere else in the world. Heck I just came back from the Turks and Caicos Islands, there were boats and jet skis buzzing through swim areas within feet of people swimming! They never have any accidents and people and other boaters are not afraid. Watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnbMWF_UjHM do these boats look 150' apart??... does it look unsafe?? Ask Scott Verdonk what it's like to go "Jammin On The James" when boats are going 60 - 70 MPH just a few feet apart!! Why is it only on Winnipesaukee do people make a big deal about a boat that is 100' away!! If people are that scared to be out there it's time for a new hobby! I've been buzzed numerous time, close enough to be sprayed. I can see where the speed limit supporters are coming from but speed is not the issue. Agreed There will always be boating accidents just like there will always be car accidents. Sometimes people do stupid things and make mistakes it's called being human. When someone accidentally runs a red light or a stop sign sometimes the outcome is a fender bender or worse. We can try and minimize it but we can never stop it as long as the human factor is there.

I'm not knocking the MPs. They do one heck of a job covering the lake, Agreed! but it clearly shows they need more manpower.
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It can't hurt to have more "eyes" on the water... ...but let's be vigilant of this "nose of the camel".
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It can't hurt to have more "eyes" on the water... ...but let's be vigilant of this "nose of the camel".
We had more "eyes" on the water with the Marine Patrol Aux.

I like your "nose of the camel" analogy.
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You really want to know what I think of the 150' rule...I think it's the most ridiculous rule we have on the lake! Do you honestly get scared if someone goes by 100' from you? If so try boating anywhere else in the world. Heck I just came back from the Turks and Caicos Islands, there were boats and jet skis buzzing through swim areas within feet of people swimming! They never have any accidents and people and other boaters are not afraid.
Of the 700 islands in the island-nation known as The Bahama Islands you're aware that
the only island that enforces drunk-driviing laws is New Providence Island?
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I'd agree, but that statement doesn't "wash" with your prior statement:

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We had more "eyes" on the water with the Marine Patrol Aux.
We "know" how many "eyes" the Marine Patrol Aux. brought to the lake?

How many "eyes" will the CG-Aux. bring to Lake Winnipesaukee?

Don't we need those figures to actually "know"?

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How many eyes DID the MP Aux. bring to the lake?
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I'd agree, but that statement doesn't "wash" with your prior statement:





We "know" how many "eyes" the Marine Patrol Aux. brought to the lake?

How many "eyes" will the CG-Aux. bring to Lake Winnipesaukee?

Don't we need those figures to actually "know"?

Turks and Caicos Island is a British Overseas Territory and does in fact enforce their drunk driving laws! The Bahamas were granted their independence in 1973. Not sure what any of this has to do with the C.G. auxillary...

As far as a better example... I thought when I said "the rest of the world" that pretty much covered it.

The fact is if your scared when a boat goes by you 100' away, you have no business being behind the wheel of any boat. If your only nautical skills evolved in and around Lake Winnipesaukee, there is a whole other side to boating and seamanship that the rest of the world enjoys where common sense and good judgement prevail.

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What do drunk driving laws have to do with a discussion about the CG Auxillary or the 150' foot rule in NH?
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What do drunk driving laws have to do with a discussion about the CG Auxillary or the 150' foot rule in NH?
I'd be concerned if drunks were operating their boats in disregard to NH's RSAs, and at less than prudent distances. IMHO, the CG Auxillary "help" is welcome to observe—and perhaps limit—such reckless behaviors.

(The long and contradictory complaint of New Hampshire's RSAs appeared here: http://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/...3&postcount=37).

When the MP Auxillary was active, there was an extended period between drunken Winnipesaukee fatalities. A letter to the Granite State News editor complained that authorities had dropped their support for the MP Auxillary.

That timely letter was written by an MP Auxillary member—and Tuftonboro resident—in mid-August of 2002.

—> I welcome more "eyes"—the MP Auxillary would have been my first choice.
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So, what happened to the Coast Guard Auxiliary coming to Lake Winnipesaukee? Did they ever show up? I never saw one of their Aux marked boats so what was up with that?
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