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Old 10-08-2017, 10:57 AM   #1
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Default Waterville replacing summit double with a t-bar

Google: 'Forest Service approval launches construction of new summit t-bar lift at Waterville Valley, September 26, 2017'

There's a couple internet reports from believable sources that say the Waterville Valley High Country double chair is getting removed, and being replaced with a t-bar. This seems like a very good move, having a reliable t-bar to move you from the top of the quad lift to the top of the mountain.

Downhill skiing at Waterville Valley always seemed to be somewhat retarded to me as the summit was usually not skiable because the old High Country double was not working. The High Country double chairlift, 1966-2016, 50-years of totally crappy-wappy operation.... a major, major blunder.....the slowest chair lift ever....when it was operational....which was almost always broke down.

This brand new, soon to be constructed t-bar should have been built way, way back in about 1970 .....or earlier ..... it was obvious in 1966, the High Country double had a serious problem..... extremely slow .....and usually not in service due to mechanical breakdown. When in doubt ..... throw it out!

Will the new t-bar lift get closed due to the wind? Probably not as much as the old double chair, but after all, some days it's just too windy on the mountain for downhill skiing?

Building a new t-bar to replace the old High Country double is a great move, but what should really happen is to build an old retro style, olde fashioned rope tow that powers off an old blue 1948 Ford farm tractor with the big tire removed from the big wheel rim..... and the rope powered up by the big rim.......just like skiing back in 1949 ......now, that would be reliable! No rope tow claws allowed .... ha-ha!

For about $504, I can buy a combination down hill Value Pass with the cross country trails included.... and hearing about this new High Country t-bar lift.....leads me to believe that I may actually stick a crowbar into my wallet.....and pry out the $435 for a downhill value pass and $69 for a xc add on.

Is it worth the money considering one can hit the seven miles of Forest Service xc trails, leaving from the north end of WV at Depot Camp parking lot......for the recently raised Forest Service price of $30/year/vehicle, formerly $20, for a Forest Service annual parking sticker .....the same WMNF car windshield, parking sticker used to go hiking?

From 1988-1995 or so, the main quad went all the way to the tippy tippy top of the summit, and that was the bestest ever ....... big winds ...... so what! When it was too windy to run the quad, you go hit the forested xc trails, down in the valley!

Replacing that summit double chair with a t-bar seems like a 'no-brainer' and too bad, they didn't start there with a t-bar in 1966 ........ t-bars and rope tows were the greatest.......after all.....skiing is supposed to be about having some challenging fun, and not about riding hi-tech lifts that do everything super smooth....... and super boring.

After fifty years, 1966-2016, of operating very, very, very slowly, or being closed for weeks due to a breakdown, the High Country double chair lift will be replaced by a two person t-bar surface lift ...... which should be a huge improvement ....... fun going up, and fun skiing down the wide open, high country slope with the huge views......3-cheers! Riding a t-bar is actually fun to do, and can be challenging, especially when it goes steep.....but not as much fun as riding an olde rope tow ...... those were amaz'n!
Down & out, livn that Walmart side of the lake!

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Old 10-08-2017, 11:30 AM   #2
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Default Time for some real new lifts.

I can't wait for Vail or KSL to make an offer on the place. Time for a nice new six pack and lift out of the village.

Just think, if Vail buys the place, you will be able to ski Stowe, Vail, Whistler, and more. KSL will give you Stratton, Tremblant, Aspen, Squaw Valley, and more.
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Looks like the removal/replacement........out with the old double chair.....in with the new t-bar, up top the mountain, was happening all last week.

Looks like a huge helicopter, with very large orange and white vertical striping, maybe an old Soviet Union helicopter, has been hauling poured concrete by dangling a line to a concrete pour bucket below, up and down this mountain top project.

"....hey Vladimir ...... Comrade .....you be back here quick with more concrete......we need more mud fast ....."
Down & out, livn that Walmart side of the lake!

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