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Old 07-24-2017, 08:13 AM   #1
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Yesterday afternoon I was driving my boat back to park at our docking spot at Pier 19. As I approached the docks, there was a boat in front of me looking lost. They finally decided to pull in towards the gas area and started waving to friends on shore. I shouted several times to try and ask if they were looking for public docking or to get gas. Completely ignored. They ended up getting too close to the gas pump area to let the person leaving get out. This driver had no clue how to control his boat and eventually caused the boat leaving the gas pump area to scrape his boat along the back of a docked boat. Needless to say, both drivers had words for each other.

The wreckless boat didn't know how to pull into the gas dock area to pick up their friends. They ended up sticking the bow of the boat towards the dock, had the gas attendant hold the rope as their guests boarded.

Worst boating I've seen in years. Tried to talk to the boat driver but they had left by the time I had tied up.

All this happened after taking my kids tubing and had two boats fly by at full speed between me and another boat that was a little over a 150' away from me. You wonder why I don't go boating after 10 am on weekends!
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Old 07-24-2017, 08:52 AM   #2
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Yesterday afternoon I was driving my boat back to park at our docking spot at Pier 19. As I approached the docks, there was a boat in front of me looking lost. They finally decided to pull in towards the gas area and started waving to friends on shore. I shouted several times to try and ask if they were looking for public docking or to get gas. Completely ignored. They ended up getting too close to the gas pump area to let the person leaving get out. This driver had no clue how to control his boat and eventually caused the boat leaving the gas pump area to scrape his boat along the back of a docked boat. Needless to say, both drivers had words for each other.

The wreckless boat didn't know how to pull into the gas dock area to pick up their friends. They ended up sticking the bow of the boat towards the dock, had the gas attendant hold the rope as their guests boarded.

Worst boating I've seen in years. Tried to talk to the boat driver but they had left by the time I had tied up.

All this happened after taking my kids tubing and had two boats fly by at full speed between me and another boat that was a little over a 150' away from me. You wonder why I don't go boating after 10 am on weekends!
I avoid Winni on weekends altogether. I go to the lake to avoid the stress of traffic but it seems to be Just as bad as Mass on weekends on the road and the water.
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Old 07-24-2017, 09:16 AM   #3
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I avoid Winni on weekends altogether. I go to the lake to avoid the stress of traffic but it seems to be Just as bad as Mass on weekends on the road and the water.
I thought you were on lake Waukewan?
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Old 07-24-2017, 12:13 PM   #4
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More stupid? Most stupid? This is one of those threads right?
We went to Meredith Saturday afternoon around 3:45. Good flow in and out of docks, full, but out many waiting in line to dock.
In the midst of this dense traffic, was a parade of paddle boarders presumably from the rental place by "Town Docks". They totally blocked entrance/exit to the docks. Once in a while, there would be a break and boat would try o scoot out (at headway speed or less.) As they started to move, another group would head in front of them. Obviously multiple accidents waiting to happen.
I hope the rental shop owners will take note and suggest that renters go south in front of Church Landing instead of north in front of heavy, albeit slow, traffic.
One boarder falls and knocks over two more and boats, even at headway speed, have no place to move out of the way, or no ability if you shut down the engine. I don't blame inexperienced paddle boarders for their inexperience, but the shop operator should be doling something different. (Is this an "I told you so" from the thread that announced the plans for the rental shop?)
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Old 07-24-2017, 12:58 PM   #5
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They ended up sticking the bow of the boat towards the dock, had the gas attendant hold the rope as their guests boarded.
Ugh, that sounds terrible. Can I make a friendly suggestion, however, that if you are going to chastise others for their poor boating that you at least use correct sailing terminology. The object that binds a boat to a dock is not "the rope" but rather a "line" - preferably a bow line or a stern line. One does not have a "docking spot" but a "slip."

Lastly, although the poster did not commit this transgression I can't tell you how many people refer to the "map" of Winnipesaukee rather than the "chart." Sloppy boating terminology leads to sloppy boating.
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Ugh, that sounds terrible. Can I make a friendly suggestion, however, that if you are going to chastise others for their poor boating that you at least use correct sailing terminology. The object that binds a boat to a dock is not "the rope" but rather a "line" - preferably a bow line or a stern line. One does not have a "docking spot" but a "slip."

Lastly, although the poster did not commit this transgression I can't tell you how many people refer to the "map" of Winnipesaukee rather than the "chart." Sloppy boating terminology leads to sloppy boating.
This is worse than correcting some ones spelling. I don't know why people feel the need to do this. I think we all got his message even without the correct terminology.
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This is worse than correcting some ones spelling. I don't know why people feel the need to do this. I think we all got his message even without the correct terminology.
Maybe. If the misspelled post was chastising someone for poor spelling - maybe.

As someone who was taught how to boat/sail on salt water and then moved to fresh, I can tell you there's an ocean's difference between salt water sailors and fresh water sailors in their knowledge and skills. I have always assumed it was because the penalty for being sloppy is more severe on salt water. I hope we fresh water boaters can "up our game."
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Old 07-24-2017, 01:31 PM   #8
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Maybe. If the misspelled post was chastising someone for poor spelling - maybe.

As someone who was taught how to boat/sail on salt water and then moved to fresh, I can tell you there's an ocean's difference between salt water sailors and fresh water sailors in their knowledge and skills. I have always assumed it was because the penalty for being sloppy is more severe on salt water. I hope we fresh water boaters can "up our game."
I used to think that too. However, after spending the past 3 winters boating in SW Florida (Gulf of Mexico), I can tell you that the "sailors" there are no better (if not worse) than any of the boneheads that I've seen on the lake. And that water is about as salty as it gets.
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I used to think that too. However, after spending the past 3 winters boating in SW Florida (Gulf of Mexico), I can tell you that the "sailors" there are no better (if not worse) than any of the boneheads that I've seen on the lake. And that water is about as salty as it gets.
And so are the sailors!
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Wow! Nine posts and we've already covered three topics. Must be the rain.
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Let's change it up a bit; can anyone post the latest price of fuel at Pier 19 (or anywhere else on the lake for that matter) ?

Pier 19 used to be one of the cheaper places to buy gas but not so sure anymore.




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Old 07-24-2017, 03:50 PM   #12
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Let's change it up a bit; can anyone post the latest price of fuel at Pier 19 (or anywhere else for that matter) ?

Pier 19 used to be one of the cheaper places to buy gas but not so sure anymore.




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It's about $2.30 in central Mass.
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Ugh, that sounds terrible. Can I make a friendly suggestion, however, that if you are going to chastise others for their poor boating that you at least use correct sailing terminology. The object that binds a boat to a dock is not "the rope" but rather a "line" - preferably a bow line or a stern line. One does not have a "docking spot" but a "slip."

Lastly, although the poster did not commit this transgression I can't tell you how many people refer to the "map" of Winnipesaukee rather than the "chart." Sloppy boating terminology leads to sloppy boating.
You sound like a lot of fun, Lighten up Francis.
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You sound like a lot of fun, Lighten up Francis.
The name's Francis Soyer. But everybody calls me Psycho. Any of you guys call me Francis... and I'll kill ya.
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Maybe. If the misspelled post was chastising someone for poor spelling - maybe.

As someone who was taught how to boat/sail on salt water and then moved to fresh, I can tell you there's an ocean's difference between salt water sailors and fresh water sailors in their knowledge and skills. I have always assumed it was because the penalty for being sloppy is more severe on salt water. I hope we fresh water boaters can "up our game."
Wow! 14 posts and you have some snobby attitude towards the knowledge and experience of people boating on Winnipesaukee? Lose it, you are incorrect!

Many people on this lake have countless years of experience and many have ocean experience too. I boat on the ocean in Florida 6 months a year and the ocean boaters are no different than those on the lake. Some of them are a lot less courteous than most people on Winnipesaukee too.

Between 4 different boats and a commercial operation on Winnipesaukee I boat over 500 hours per year. I have been on Winnipesaukee every summer since 1970 and boated on the Cape including the Vineyard and Nantucket and in the Boston area, since 1978.

If you need some lessons, stop by.
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Wow! 14 posts and you have some snobby attitude towards the knowledge and experience of people boating on Winnipesaukee? Lose it, you are incorrect!

Many people on this lake have countless years of experience and many have ocean experience too. I boat on the ocean in Florida 6 months a year and the ocean boaters are no different than those on the lake. Some of them are a lot less courteous than most people on Winnipesaukee too.

Between 4 different boats and a commercial operation on Winnipesaukee I boat over 500 hours per year. I have been on Winnipesaukee every summer since 1970 and boated on the Cape including the Vineyard and Nantucket and in the Boston area, since 1978.

If you need some lessons, stop by.
I didn't mean to upset you buddy! For the record, I have spent every summer at Winni since 1928 and have posted thousands of messages to this forum under my real name, Hinckley Herreshoff. When I am not at Winni I live aboard one of my several vessels that I keep in Maine, the Bahamas, and Seattle and serve as a volunteer coach for the Americas Cup team. So, you know...
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I didn't mean to upset you buddy! For the record, I have spent every summer at Winni since 1928 and have posted thousands of messages to this forum under my real name, Hinckley Herreshoff. When I am not at Winni I live aboard one of my several vessels that I keep in Maine, the Bahamas, and Seattle and serve as a volunteer coach for the Americas Cup team. So, you know...
At a minimum of 89, you've gotta be the oldest contributing member here--bravo!

Still lame to call someone out on their terminology, though--sorry, captain.

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At a minimum of 89, you've gotta be the oldest contributing member here--bravo!

Still lame to call someone out on their terminology, though--sorry, captain.

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I accept your apology but just want to state for the record that my point is not about using incorrect terminology but rather in doing so while chastising others for their insufficient boating skills.


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I didn't mean to upset you buddy! For the record, I have spent every summer at Winni since 1928 and have posted thousands of messages to this forum under my real name, Hinckley Herreshoff. When I am not at Winni I live aboard one of my several vessels that I keep in Maine, the Bahamas, and Seattle and serve as a volunteer coach for the Americas Cup team. So, you know...
Francis. Are you related to Acrossamerica? Seems you have the same inflated ego gene. Hinckley H. seems to have gone missing.

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I didn't mean to upset you buddy! For the record, I have spent every summer at Winni since 1928 and have posted thousands of messages to this forum under my real name, Hinckley Herreshoff. When I am not at Winni I live aboard one of my several vessels that I keep in Maine, the Bahamas, and Seattle and serve as a volunteer coach for the Americas Cup team. So, you know...
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Let's change it up a bit; can anyone post the latest price of fuel at Pier 19 (or anywhere else on the lake for that matter) ?

Pier 19 used to be one of the cheaper places to buy gas but not so sure anymore.




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I didn't mean to upset you buddy! For the record, I have spent every summer at Winni since 1928 and have posted thousands of messages to this forum under my real name, Hinckley Herreshoff. When I am not at Winni I live aboard one of my several vessels that I keep in Maine, the Bahamas, and Seattle and serve as a volunteer coach for the Americas Cup team. So, you know...
You are clearly a troll, but that's an awesome fake name you picked. Waiting for a "frozen snot" reference next.
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You are clearly a troll, but that's an awesome fake name you picked. Waiting for a "frozen snot" reference next.
Having unpopular opinions, expressing them, defending them, and matching absurdity with absurdity does not a troll make. But thanks on the name. Best, HH
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It's about $2.30 in central Mass.
Huh? OK, OK. I get it, now. I burn diesel, so I rarely take my boat to central Mass.

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Huh? OK, OK. I get it, now. I burn diesel, so I rarely take my boat to central Mass.

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You mean you haven't boated over to the Conn river out to the Atlantic from lake Winni?

My dog has the other blue eye. I think they were switched at birth.
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Having unpopular opinions, expressing them, defending them, and matching absurdity with absurdity does not a troll make. But thanks on the name. Best, HH

Seemed like you were trying elicit a reaction. Sorry if I misread your motives.
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