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Old 04-22-2019, 08:01 PM   #1
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Default Hot Tip.........Big Boat......Coming Soon

This is kind of a teaser but it is all that can be said for now!

There is a new big privately owned boat coming to the lake. It is a little bigger, by a few feet, than the last big privately owned boat that was on the lake.

It is on the way now and will be in the water within the next 4 weeks. It is impressive!

That is all! Stay tuned!
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Iím intrigued. What is the boat it will exceed in length? My recollection is a 50í Bluewater, canít remember itís name.
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I believe Manitou The Blue Water coastal cruiser is 51'. I had the opportunity to run that one time so that the usual Captain could enjoy an onboard party and have a cocktail or two. The other BIG boat left the lake a few years back that was a 53' Carver. So I am guessin the new BIG ONE will be greater than 53'.
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"Bigger" in displacement too or just length?
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So back in the day, as my kids like to say, does anyone remember the HOTAI or HOTI (spelling may be wrong) (pronounced hoe-tie)? She was a privately owned Chris Craft Connie and was largest privately owned cruiser on Lake during sixt's and early seventies. She was slipped at Fays Boat Yard. Beautiful cruiser don't know where she went but Tom Alley who worked at Fay's had family connection to this boat. She was awesome!
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ugh, but the huge wakes this outrageous boat is going to make!
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This is kind of a teaser but it is all that can be said for now!

There is a new big privately owned boat coming to the lake. It is a little bigger, by a few feet, than the last big privately owned boat that was on the lake.

It is on the way now and will be in the water within the next 4 weeks. It is impressive!

That is all! Stay tuned!
Must be the 58' Gallien with a 16' beam and 17' tall?? 64' overall??...owner of MB Tractor??...

What do I win??

So much for keeping secrets huh??.....

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Nothing. You got the length wrong and you spelled Galeon wrong.

Sorry, there is no second prize!
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Who knows ..... maybe is this?

www.galeon.pl/en/model/640-fly-2/

Whatever ...... hey there buddy ......power it on down, past Fl-3, and power up some big wakes ...... good fun swimming with a foam noodle belt and stand up paddle boards .... plus, is nice to watch a big fancy-dancy yacht like that, as it cruises on bye ... someone else is paying ...

Shallow water and rocks is shallow water and rocks ..... and the big boats like to keep their distance from shallow water and rocks.

Galeon has been making boats since about 1980 in Poland, close to Gdansk ..... on the Baltic Sea.

Could be a happening boat for running a weekly zumba class ....... zumba on the Galeon!

This Galeon boat is close to the same length as the barge 'The Dive' and probably 100-times more sea worthy.
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This 2000 thread from our old forum has some pictures of the 53' Carver:

https://www.winnipesaukeeforum.com/i...mes;read=14334
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Because he can. Have you seen Tractor prices lately?
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Yes he can but I just don't see the attraction to have such a large boat on the lake but different strokes for different folks
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Yes he can but I just don't see the attraction to have such a large boat on the lake but different strokes for different folks
I agree, just as having a 1200HP offshore race boat on a lake that has a 45 mph speed limit, but when you have that much money you have to spend it on something. Sometimes it's just to show people how successful you've become.
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Nothing. You got the length wrong and you spelled Galeon wrong.

Sorry, there is no second prize!
No wonder no images came up when I googled "Gallien"!

What is the correct overall length if not 64'??
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Does it come complete with Capt. Jack Sparrow at the helm?
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Who knows ..... maybe is this?

www.galeon.pl/en/model/640-fly-2/

Whatever ...... hey there buddy ......power it on down, past Fl-3, and power up some big wakes ...... good fun swimming with a foam noodle belt and stand up paddle boards .... plus, is nice to watch a big fancy-dancy yacht like that, as it cruises on bye ... someone else is paying ...

Shallow water and rocks is shallow water and rocks ..... and the big boats like to keep their distance from shallow water and rocks.

Galeon has been making boats since about 1980 in Poland, close to Gdansk ..... on the Baltic Sea.

Could be a happening boat for running a weekly zumba class ....... zumba on the Galeon!

This Galeon boat is close to the same length as the barge 'The Dive' and probably 100-times more sea worthy.

I toured a smaller version of that at the boat show. Neat features, but not my cup of tea. I'm more partial to traditional lines. That said, I'd love one of these: https://setsail.com/category/fpb-78/
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OK, let's guess cost. I say 1.5 Million.
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OK, let's guess cost. I say 1.5 Million.
The 47 foot version was 1 million at the show, I'd guess the 64 footer would be more than double that. There's a HUGE difference between a 47 and 64 foot boat. Propulsion cost increases alone would be staggering.
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The 47 foot version was 1 million at the show, I'd guess the 64 footer would be more than double that. There's a HUGE difference between a 47 and 64 foot boat. Propulsion cost increases alone would be staggering.
I have a friend of mine that bought a 59' boat last year built in France and he paid 1.5 million, not sure of the make. So ya, somewhere between 1.5 and 2 sounds about right.
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A small boat like an 11' aluminum jon boat, purchased for $350 with two oars included from craigslist gives you a feeling for being close to the water ..... that you just don't get with a big boat like that!
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A small boat like an 11' aluminum jon boat, purchased for $350 with two oars included from craigslist gives you a feeling for being close to the water ..... that you just don't get with a big boat like that!
So doesn't a noodle.
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Even on a sunny, warm day, 36-degree water is pretty danged cold for using a swim noodle, but rowing a small 11' jon boat is totally doable in 36-degree water ..... plus you get to row it and go fishing. Sitting on the middle seat and using oars makes a small row boat very stable in wakes and waves up to about 2 1/2' high.

About the only thing you get from boating on a 64' yacht ..... is to get fat and drunk!
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About the only thing you get from boating on a 64' yacht ..... is to get fat and drunk!
That sounds about right!

Are there any negatives?
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No wonder no images came up when I googled "Gallien"!

What is the correct overall length if not 64'??
56 Feet

It has made it as far as New Jersey as of today. Headed to Portsmouth on the water then being trucked to the lake.

Massive undertaking! Bridges, wires, tree branches. Over height, over width, over length and a weight of about 55,000 pounds. Plenty to deal with.

It's about 7,000 pounds more than the 53 Carver was but it cannot be broken down for height like the 53. When the 53 was shipped to Rhode Island the bridge left on a different truck than the boat itself.
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So...this must be primarily a live aboard?
Wonder how many hours will be put on the engines each year. I am guessing that after running around a few times in the new toy that they end up logging around 15 hrs seasonally. Maybe 1 lap around the broads each nice weekend?
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So...this must be primarily a live aboard?
Wonder how many hours will be put on the engines each year. I am guessing that after running around a few times in the new toy that they end up logging around 15 hrs seasonally. Maybe 1 lap around the broads each nice weekend?
No. The owner has a large home on Governor's Island. I doubt anyone will ever spend a night on it.
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No. The owner has a large home on Governor's Island. I doubt anyone will ever spend a night on it.


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It has made it as far as New Jersey as of today. Headed to Portsmouth on the water then being trucked to the lake.
Massive undertaking! Bridges, wires, tree branches. Over height, over width, over length and a weight of about 55,000 pounds. Plenty to deal with. It's about 7,000 pounds more than the 53 Carver was but it cannot be broken down for height like the 53. When the 53 was shipped to Rhode Island the bridge left on a different truck than the boat itself.
Fifty-five thousand pounds, and the lake is already high!
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We used to use our cruiser as a "guest house". People loved the idea of sleeping on the boat. We downsized. Now people want to sleep on the boat because it has a/c and the camp does not.
The only way to go to Wolfeboro for lunch on weekends is to have the captain drop people off and float in the bay until pick up time. No captain, so that hasn't worked well so far. PM me if you want to be the captain. We'll bring you take out. Great for Welch Island resident who wants to walk to work. EOE M/F non-smoke.
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Coming from the Galeon factory in Gdansk, Poland to New Jersey, did it travel on its' own as a boat crossing the ocean, or as cargo in a big freighter ship?

Is not all that unusual for a 33' sailboat with a keel to make the ocean crossing powered by sail.

8 1/2' is the standard max width for a truck trailer, on the U.S. roads, and 8' is the width for the semi-tractor pulling the trailer.

Will there be a regularly scheduled zumba class on the bow area, every week?

Maybe it could be named the 'ZUMBA' .... with just five letters, not a bad name for a big yacht .... can go buy some big letters at Hobby Lobby in Tilton for short money.
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Coming from the Galeon factory in Gdansk, Poland to New Jersey, did it travel on its' own as a boat crossing the ocean, or as cargo in a big freighter ship? Is not all that unusual for a 33' sailboat with a keel to make the ocean crossing powered by sail. 8 1/2' is the standard max width for a truck trailer, on the U.S. roads, and 8' is the width for the semi-tractor pulling the trailer. Will there be a regularly scheduled zumba class on the bow area, every week? Maybe it could be named the 'ZUMBA' .... with just five letters, not a bad name for a big yacht .... can go buy some big letters at Hobby Lobby in Tilton for short money.
While sailboat deliveries across the Atlantic are not unusual, there are about nine yachts drifting in the Atlantic Ocean—abandoned by their crews after being hit by heavy squalls.

Catamarans and trimarans are more resistant to totally sinking, but all have been written-off by their insurors.

Most rescues were successful, but the boats are still circulating—one found after nine years of sailing with no one aboard!

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Fifty-five thousand pounds, and the lake is already high!
Your agenda is well known and your years of protests have been acknowledged. Instead of waking up every day and thinking of all the changes on the lake that displease you perhaps you could find a small lake with a 1920's feel that will be more to your liking. Life is too short to be as negative as you seem to be.

Or, if you are really serious about your objection to larger boats on the lake, instead of being a keyboard warrior why not take some action? Start at the top!

Get into your Prius with the "Bernie Bros" bumper sticker on it and head over to the Weirs. When the families are boarding the Mount Washington for a day of enjoyment on the lake you could be strutting your stuff on the dock with a sign protesting "over sized boats".

Anything else is just negative noise!
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Here we go, bringing the political crap to a thread again!

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Your agenda is well known and your years of protests have been acknowledged. Instead of waking up every day and thinking of all the changes on the lake that displease you perhaps you could find a small lake with a 1920's feel that will be more to your liking. Life is too short to be as negative as you seem to be.

Or, if you are really serious about your objection to larger boats on the lake, instead of being a keyboard warrior why not take some action? Start at the top!

Get into your Prius with the "Bernie Bros" bumper sticker on it and head over to the Weirs. When the families are boarding the Mount Washington for a day of enjoyment on the lake you could be strutting your stuff on the dock with a sign protesting "over sized boats".

Anything else is just negative noise!
Awesome response. It's bad enough we have a speed limit , but now we want to restrict boat size? It is absolutely incredible and just another case of the tail trying to wag the dog
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Awesome response. It's bad enough we have a speed limit , but now we want to restrict boat size? It is absolutely incredible and just another case of the tail trying to wag the dog
Two different things, speed limit is about safety. I don't think the size of a boat will affect safety on the lake.

Personally I don't care what size boat someone has but I do care about how fast they are going, esp when it's a busy weekend. You can't count on every boater being responsible, careful, and respectful.
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56 Feet

It has made it as far as New Jersey as of today. Headed to Portsmouth on the water then being trucked to the lake.

Massive undertaking! Bridges, wires, tree branches. Over height, over width, over length and a weight of about 55,000 pounds. Plenty to deal with.

It's about 7,000 pounds more than the 53 Carver was but it cannot be broken down for height like the 53. When the 53 was shipped to Rhode Island the bridge left on a different truck than the boat itself.
Which model is it? Galeon makes a few in that overall length range. My kids loved its baby brother at the boat show.

That will be impressive to see that move over the road. I imagine they will have to take it 95 to 101 to 93. I cant imagine trying Route 11!
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Two different things, speed limit is about safety. I don't think the size of a boat will affect safety on the lake.

Personally I don't care what size boat someone has but I do care about how fast they are going, esp when it's a busy weekend. You can't count on every boater being responsible, careful, and respectful.


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We have to be vigilant, though. Before you know it, there will be some other absurd law that does nothing it improve safety, but makes the liberal law makers feel good. We know that the speed limit does not effect safety one bit.
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True but at the same time some jackass is going to buy a government surplus destroyer and want to put it in the lake.

There does come a point to where the size of a boat for even "the big lake" is a bit silly.

You'd think common sense would prevail here but sometimes it just doesn't. Not that I'm a big fan of new laws and restrictions but I can see one day this kind of thing happening.
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We have to be vigilant, though. Before you know it, there will be some other absurd law that does nothing it improve safety, but makes the liberal law makers feel good. We know that the speed limit does not effect safety one bit.
And how do we know this?
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We have to be vigilant, though. Before you know it, there will be some other absurd law that does nothing it improve safety, but makes the liberal law makers feel good. We know that the speed limit does not effect safety one bit.
Just curious, why do you think the speed limit does not affect safety one bit?

To stay on point with the thread, I just don't see the point of such a big boat on the lake - aside from the bragging rights one gets for having the biggest boat. To each their own...
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Bragging rights. There is no safety issue here, and for those who want to rehash speed limits, there is a separate section of the Forum for that.
From a practical point, there are limited places to keep/dock a boat over 44' LOA. Even if you have your own dock that is capable, you won't find docking at most public docks, or in many marinas. Max at MVYC, for example is 44' although the directors can grant an exemption. Many marinas do not have lift capacity. DES and the towns won't let you build a big dock or boathouse anymore. The list goes on. It;'s too bad in a way. I'd rather see the Swallow in one boathouse than 6-8 boathouses/docks filling up the same area, or a valet operation in the same place. (I use valet, so I appreciate its value, but from a lake use/intensity perspective, one big boat is less intrusive.)
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Both the Doris E and Sophie C are about 70' long, have the biggest wakes, never catch any forum flak, so's maybe he should follow their lead and name it the Michael B?

And, everywhere it goes, announce their arrival by sounding out that old hit, 'Michael, Row the Boat Ashore, Hallelujah!' ..... or maybe just name it the 'Hallelujah' ..... a nice name for a 64' luxury liner .... there, it goes, the 'Hallelujah' ..... and be pumping out the volume.
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Through experience and common sense. A person with a fast boat does not indiscriminately go fast in tight or crowded areas but instead looks for wide open spaces. My father owned a 27í Eliminator that would do about 90. He would open it up routinely but was very safe about it. Most if not all owners of fast boats feel this way. An arbitrary speed limit was a solution looking for a problem that didnít exist.


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Both the Doris E and Sophie C are about 70' long, have the biggest wakes, never catch any forum flak, so's maybe he should follow their lead and name it the Michael B?

And, everywhere it goes, announce their arrival by sounding out that old hit, 'Michael, Row the Boat Ashore, Hallelujah!' ..... or maybe just name it the 'Hallelujah' ..... a nice name for a 64' luxury liner .... there, it goes, the 'Hallelujah' ..... and be pumping out the volume.
Sure that would be really cool......................If the owner's name was Michael, which it is not. Or, if the boat was 64 feet which it is not. Thank you for the misinformation though!
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Just curious, why do you think the speed limit does not affect safety one bit?

To stay on point with the thread, I just don't see the point of such a big boat on the lake - aside from the bragging rights one gets for having the biggest boat. To each their own...
I personally never thought it does either. Both on the lake or the highway. Someone correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't Winnisquam not have a speed limit?

Id like to see the stats on the last 15 years. How many people have died on the lake versus how many died due to "specifically" excessive speed on the lake.

Wonder if this boat owner would let me surf behind that monster!
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Through experience and common sense. A person with a fast boat does not indiscriminately go fast in tight or crowded areas but instead looks for wide open spaces. My father owned a 27’ Eliminator that would do about 90. He would open it up routinely but was very safe about it. Most if not all owners of fast boats feel this way. An arbitrary speed limit was a solution looking for a problem that didn’t exist.


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If only common sense really were common! When I was a teenager and in my early twenties I feel the lake had fewer boats, smaller boats, and not as many boats that went really fast; I had a friend whose boat went 70+ which at the time was really fast. As boats became more and more plentiful - and bigger and faster - a significant number of people without common sense helped create an environment ripe for regulation.

While I don't think it will happen anytime soon, if boats continue to get bigger and bigger I would not be surprised to start seeing a move to impose some type of tax based on length, beam, and/or displacement - or perhaps even limits on size. The logic would be that bigger boats take up a disproportionate share of public spaces; for example, a boat like the one in this thread would take up (my guess) four or more spaces at a public dock and the equivalent number of mooring spaces on a sandbar.

I am not advocating for such a tax or ban, merely pointing out that regulation only comes about when conditions warrant them. Very few politicians take positions that buck the will of their constituents. And, those that do are not in office for too long.

Bottom line to me - if someone wants to bring a boat I feel is way too big for the lake, so be it. Until and unless something changes, that is his/her right to do so. I'll both admire it and roll my eyes when it goes by - and wish I owned such a vessel so I could do the Great Loop!
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Through experience and common sense. A person with a fast boat does not indiscriminately go fast in tight or crowded areas but instead looks for wide open spaces. My father owned a 27í Eliminator that would do about 90. He would open it up routinely but was very safe about it. Most if not all owners of fast boats feel this way. An arbitrary speed limit was a solution looking for a problem that didnít exist.


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Is this your scientific study? Is that the same as, most people that have fast cars don't drive fast?
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Your agenda is well known and your years of protests have been acknowledged. Instead of waking up every day and thinking of all the changes on the lake that displease you perhaps you could find a small lake with a 1920's feel that will be more to your liking. Life is too short to be as negative as you seem to be. Or, if you are really serious about your objection to larger boats on the lake, instead of being a keyboard warrior why not take some action? Start at the top!
Get into your Prius with the "Bernie Bros" bumper sticker on it and head over to the Weirs. When the families are boarding the Mount Washington for a day of enjoyment on the lake you could be strutting your stuff on the dock with a sign protesting "over sized boats". Anything else is just negative noise!
While I hope that Bernie is the nominee, and that everyone else drives a Prius, your characterization is 'way off.

My present view is of a small lake that has been "to my liking" since viewing it from the shoreline of Camp Wyanoke; unfortunately, it is attached to the larger lake beyond.

An even earlier view includes rowing near where Melvin Village Marina stands today.



See all the wakes? Me neither.

We were aghast when our neighbors moored a new 21' Thompson outboard next door. When they invited me (a teenager) to captain their boat to Wolfeboro via The Broads, I did so. Five minutes later, I received the trip's only instruction while in 25-feet of water: "Keep farther away from shore". I thought this was very "telling" of the owner and his new oversized boat. (At the time, there were no houses facing Rattlesnake Island).

"Visitors" today blast their way around Rattlesnake Island and from Meredith Bay to bulldoze their oversized boats into Winter Harbor. They'll soak docks, erode the shoreline, break mooring lines, and set small boaters' teeth on edge. Some come to Winter Harbor to rattle windows with their unnecessarily loud exhaust noise. (Note: fewer since S/L). Even the best-protected of shoreline properties now have boat lifts and breakwaters. One boatlift has stairs next to it, eliminating the boarding of a "bucking" boat.

Bought a raft? Better inspect your ground tackle after every weekend.

Seen all the floatplanes using the three designated landing areas in Winter Harbor? Me neither.

Even while in Winter Harbor' "protected waters", I have been thrown out of my boat three times!

The first time, it was from an overpowered outboard boat—hard chines, in what I thought was a gentle turn—totally my fault. The second time, I was thrown out backwards after slowing for a huge wake from a 28-foot cruiser—towing a water skier. Lastly, tossed from my 20-foot sailboat—trapped between the wakes of two cruisers entering Winter Harbor.

As for raising an already high lake with 55,000 pounds of displacement, that was really tongue-in-cheek. Since we know that wind can more greatly affect depth measurements between the distant "corners" of the lake—one boat or all the boats—aren't going to budge the meter much while measuring 600 billion gallons of water.

It's when they get underway that the metric changes. The rate at which a lake "dies" (eutrophication) increases with damaged shorelines.

For an indicator, look for algae.

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While I don't think it will happen anytime soon, if boats continue to get bigger and bigger I would not be surprised to start seeing a move to impose some type of tax based on length, beam, and/or displacement - or perhaps even limits on size. The logic would be that bigger boats take up a disproportionate share of public spaces; for example, a boat like the one in this thread would take up (my guess) four or more spaces at a public dock and the equivalent number of mooring spaces on a sandbar.

I am not advocating for such a tax or ban, merely pointing out that regulation only comes about when conditions warrant them. Very few politicians take positions that buck the will of their constituents. And, those that do are not in office for too long.

Bottom line to me - if someone wants to bring a boat I feel is way too big for the lake, so be it. Until and unless something changes, that is his/her right to do so. I'll both admire it and roll my eyes when it goes by - and wish I owned such a vessel so I could do the Great Loop!
Well, in effect there already is a tax based on size, heads, Etc when you register the boat.

When you have a bigger boat you know you can't expect 4 (your number) of spaces to open up at the same time in any public dock. So you don't even attempt to do that.

The movement of this boat will also create significant fuel taxes, business income taxes, overtime for police, cable workers, and telephone linemen.
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There already is a tax as you describe, it's part of the registration fee.

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That boat is very likely too tall to do the loop. Most loop boats are <15' high to enable them to go anywhere on the loop, but the maximum height to do the loop is 19'1". There's a very similar boat at Champlain Marina that can't cruise off the lake despite the fact that the lake is connected to the ocean at both ends. It's too tall to fit under the bridges. As big as Champlain is,n that kind of limitation would make me nuts, I cannot fathom having a boat like that a Winnipesaukee.
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I would be happy just to be the salesman that sold that boat, nice big commission on that one!
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Two different things, speed limit is about safety. I don't think the size of a boat will affect safety on the lake.

Personally I don't care what size boat someone has but I do care about how fast they are going, esp when it's a busy weekend. You can't count on every boater being responsible, careful, and respectful.

The speed limit has done nothing to improve safety, came right from MP about the last ten years of having the speed limit.
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There already is a tax as you describe, it's part of the registration fee.





That boat is very likely too tall to do the loop.
Hope it's not too late to get my deposit back

In all seriousness the Great Loop is definitely something that's on my retirement list.
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Well, in effect there already is a tax based on size, heads, Etc when you register the boat.

When you have a bigger boat you know you can't expect 4 (your number) of spaces to open up at the same time in any public dock. So you don't even attempt to do that.

The movement of this boat will also create significant fuel taxes, business income taxes, overtime for police, cable workers, and telephone linemen.
I hear you and understand your logic - but like common sense not always being common, logic and good decisions are not always the foundation for public policy.
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56 Feet

It has made it as far as New Jersey as of today. Headed to Portsmouth on the water then being trucked to the lake.

Massive undertaking! Bridges, wires, tree branches. Over height, over width, over length and a weight of about 55,000 pounds. Plenty to deal with.

It's about 7,000 pounds more than the 53 Carver was but it cannot be broken down for height like the 53. When the 53 was shipped to Rhode Island the bridge left on a different truck than the boat itself.



I remember that 53' bottle. The corrosion on the electrical system in the e/r told a sad story. Back-feeding all over the boat.

I, with the help of others, spent hours cleaning and treating numerous neglected 4/0 DC(-) terminals down there. .. taking back years of low maintenance found in the hard access corners.

Happily all efforts were rewarded with 100% success and all Back-feeding Electrical Gremlins were properly fed and disappeared.

Sorry for the hi-jack, It just made me look back into the archives of being a marine electrician.
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I remember that 53' bottle. The corrosion on the electrical system in the e/r told a sad story. Back-feeding all over the boat.

I, with the help of others, spent hours cleaning and treating numerous neglected 4/0 DC(-) terminals down there. .. taking back years of low maintenance found in the hard access corners.

Happily all efforts were rewarded with 100% success and all Back-feeding Electrical Gremlins were properly fed and disappeared.

Sorry for the hi-jack, It just made me look back into the archives of being a marine electrician.
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What do you mean by back-feeding? Design issue or operator error?
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Any update, has she arrived?
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It is currently at Marine Max in Quincy MA getting some punch list items taken care of.

It will probably be on the lake in 7 to 10 days.

(Took notice of APS's concern about raising the lake level so waiting for a little more water to go over the Lakeport Dam)
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I figured I'd stick my nose into this just a bit. A boat of that size is probably not going to run at speed even if that speed is 15mph at full throttle. So if its going to be a low speed sight seeing vessel (like the Mount Washington) what's the harm? I welcome any boating enthusiast's idea of what works for them so long as it doesn't negatively impact the general boating experience of the rest of the population. Can't wait to see her!
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I figured I'd stick my nose into this just a bit. A boat of that size is probably not going to run at speed even if that speed is 15mph at full throttle. So if its going to be a low speed sight seeing vessel (like the Mount Washington) what's the harm? I welcome any boating enthusiast's idea of what works for them so long as it doesn't negatively impact the general boating experience of the rest of the population. Can't wait to see her!
A magazine review (2016) says top speed 30 knots, cruise at 25 knots.
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Personally Iím looking forward to seeing it, where will it be docked?
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If the owner of this craft is where I think he is, it will be at the western tip of Governorís Island right near the NWZ passage between Governorís and Eagle Is.
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I'm not sure there's enough space there without dock additions. The 53'' Caver was docked at Silver Sands.
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53" Carver. Was that the "Mini Summa Humma"?

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... any celebs or big money. Tilton already said not MB from GI. So..... who? Lots of old money.. and new money up here.

Mitt? Nah, too busy playing politics.
Sandler? Hmmm... good to see him on SNL last night and see a true talent on that show after a long dry spell. But doesn't seem that he likes to call that much attention to himself in the every day.
One of the Patriots ?
How about HHH or his father-in-law?
Damon of Affleck?
A Marriot?
Maybe DickieBfromHB who is FINALLY leaving CA for a better place among family here in Nh?
While it is "privately owned", perhaps intention of operating as a business?
Maybe anybody that flies under the radar and we never find out as registered in a corp name ... Like the jets that fly in and out of LAC.
Oh wait! A Saudi Sheik who bought it for his sons to get away for a weekend a year and who will bring it to the NASWA if can get under the bridge.
Could be just another rich person who will park it and use it 2 times a year when up for vacation.

Going to be great seeing it after all of this suspense. The build up has certainly been propagated by postings on this forum... including mine.

No matter who owns it, I admit it would be nice to have that expendable income and I look forward to seeing it!

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... any celebs or big money. Tilton already said not MB from GI. So..... who? Lots of old money.. and new money up here.

Mitt? Nah, too busy playing politics.
Sandler? Hmmm... good to see him on SNL last night and see a true talent on that show after a long dry spell. But doesn't seem that he likes to call that much attention to himself in the every day.
One of the Patriots ?
How about HHH or his father-in-law?
Damon of Affleck?
A Marriot?
Maybe DickieBfromHB who is FINALLY leaving CA for a better place among family here in Nh?
While it is "privately owned", perhaps intention of operating as a business?
Maybe anybody that flies under the radar and we never find out as registered in a corp name ... Like the jets that fly in and out of LAC.
Oh wait! A Saudi Sheik who bought it for his sons to get away for a weekend a year and who will bring it to the NASWA if can get under the bridge.
Could be just another rich person who will park it and use it 2 times a year when up for vacation.

Going to be great seeing it after all of this suspense. The build up has certainly been propagated by postings on this forum... including mine.

No matter who owns it, I admit it would be nice to have that expendable income and I look forward to seeing it!

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I'm not sure there's enough space there without dock additions. The 53'' Caver was docked at Silver Sands.
His dock is being worked on now to fit the new boat...
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I never said that!

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No. The owner has a large home on Governor's Island. I doubt anyone will ever spend a night on it.
Probably here about 5/12. Planning still in progress.
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53" Carver. Was that the "Mini Summa Humma"?

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It was “My Uther Humma”

or something closer to that - it was docked at Silver Sands in days past.
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It was “My Uther Humma”

or something closer to that - it was docked at Silver Sands in days past.
Close but not exactly!
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No

It was ďMy Uther HummaĒ

or something closer to that - it was docked at Silver Sands in days past.
My post was a joke on the reference to a 53" (53 inch) boat being the "Mini" version.
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Can't help but think of the movie "Secondhand Lions".
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what size and model is that? Trying to match photos from Galeon website
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Found a picture of a used 2018 sky deck that looks an awful lot like it. A measly $1.19 million


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It's a beautiful boat. In my opinion, it's too big for the lake, but if someone else wants it and has the means to buy and run it, so be it. I look forward to seeing it out cruising.
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They won't be able to get that into the Back Bay with the water level so high currently.

But seriously, trying to dock a boat that size at one of the town docks during the weekend will be impossible unless they arrive around 7am. It's tough finding a spot with a 20 footer. I suppose they would drop anchor out a bit and run a dingy in.
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It's a beautiful boat. In my opinion, it's too big for the lake, but if someone else wants it and has the means to buy and run it, so be it. I look forward to seeing it out cruising.
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I suppose they would drop anchor out a bit and run a dingy in.
That's how the rest of the world does it. I'm amazed this rarely happens on Winni. An inflatable dinghy is like a giant fender, you can safely squeeze one in pretty much anywhere...
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They won't be able to get that into the Back Bay with the water level so high currently.

But seriously, trying to dock a boat that size at one of the town docks during the weekend will be impossible unless they arrive around 7am. It's tough finding a spot with a 20 footer. I suppose they would drop anchor out a bit and run a dingy in.
I highly doubt Marc will have any issues docking it. Anyone who has witnessed him maneuvering and docking is former boat (43' Regal) at the Naswa knows he's a very skilled operator.
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My guess is that's at Shep Brown's, down on Meredith Neck, with the brand new town asphalt paving, there.

Am I right, or am I right? Is tough to say ….. maybe is not … on second look?

Here's to a happening big 58?' boat ….. built in Gdansk, Poland by Galeon Yachts …. on the Baltic Sea ….. it needs the local Zumba talent doing a Zumba class up front on the bow, as it slowly cruises the big lake ….. (Zumba music here).

That trailer is probably 8.5' wide x 53' long, so how big is the boat?
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That's how the rest of the world does it. I'm amazed this rarely happens on Winni. An inflatable dinghy is like a giant fender, you can safely squeeze one in pretty much anywhere...
I could only imagine the litany of complaints that would cause if people actually started doing that. Not to mention all the related incidents from boats not being properly anchored, etc.

The upside would be you could probably walk across Meredith Bay easily on a busy weekend
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The boat arrived in Gilford this afternoon about 1 PM. It is scheduled for launch on Monday afternoon.
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I could only imagine the litany of complaints that would cause if people actually started doing that. Not to mention all the related incidents from boats not being properly anchored, etc.

The upside would be you could probably walk across Meredith Bay easily on a busy weekend
Yes, most of the busy ports I've ever been in where this is standard will also have moorings and require boats to use them, to minimize chaos. Usually there's not much more than the amount of dock space you have at a place like Meredith unless it's really big.

I am enjoying the thought of this guy coming up to anywhere trying to dock though- and the excitement of the three boats that could fit in her space when she leaves!
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I saw this boat (summa humma) today on Route 11 somewhere south of Alton Circle being escorted by police and "follow me" cars. It is really big.
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I highly doubt Marc will have any issues docking it. Anyone who has witnessed him maneuvering and docking is former boat (43' Regal) at the Naswa knows he's a very skilled operator.
The operator's boating skills have nothing to do with difficulty finding a dock space at the public docks. You would need 3 or 4 empty spots in a row to fit that big of a boat. How often does that happen on weekends?
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I highly doubt Marc will have any issues docking it. Anyone who has witnessed him maneuvering and docking is former boat (43' Regal) at the Naswa knows he's a very skilled operator.
It wont take much for piloting skills, that is joystick controlled with thrusters front and rear I am sure. You can push that in any direction needed.
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560 Skydeck Extraordinaire

www.galeonyachts.us/en/model/560-skydeck/ says it has a draft of 4'7" .... seems pretty shallow ..... could hang a trolling motor on the bow and go bass'n for smallies!
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Having owned three 40 plus footers over the years on the lake, docking can be a challenge, not from the actual process, itís all about the available space! I spent many hours ďhoveringĒ by myself ( enjoying every moment) after having dropped everyone else off to shop or eat.
Iíll certainly enjoy watching her on the lake, and wish Marc many, many enjoyable times on the water. Sheís beautiful!
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