Winnipesaukee Marketplace Weirs Beach sold?

[dykg]

It looks like the Winnipesaukee Marketplace was sold in October to Weirs Beach Holdings LLC. Anyone have any info on this?

[SAMIAM]

TiltonBB ?

[RUGMAN]

The people that own flight craft bought it and are doing a great job repainting the building , much more eye appealing color.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by RUGMAN

The people that own flight craft bought it and are doing a great job repainting the building , much more eye appealing color.

Awesome they are doing a great job revitalizing the area. Hope they continue to expand their investment

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[fatlazyless]

Removing that Weirs Beach, single railroad track, that's about 9'6" wide with the wood RR-ties and replacing it with a 10-12' wide walking, running, and bicycling trail paved with gray stone dust gravel could really power-up both of these Winnipesaukee Pier and Winnipesaukee Marketplace building venues.

DPW and municipal trucks like fire rescue vehicles are all usually 8'-wide, and most public roads and interstate highways have lanes that are 12' wide so removing the very much under-used single RR-track and wood ties and replacing it with a gray granite stone dust gravel tourist/community trail would be a hugely welcome improvement to the Weirs waterfront area!

Here in 2021-central New Hampshire, everything gets moved by a car or a truck with black rubber, inflated tires, and nothing gets moved on the steel railroad rails, no more.

[Biggd]

They seem to be buying up everything. 2020 must have been a good year for them.

Originally Posted by RUGMAN

The people that own flight craft bought it and are doing a great job repainting the building , much more eye appealing color.

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[RUGMAN]

Somebody has to do it, i applaud them for making the investment in the weirs, They realize we have a gem here. Location, location.

[Patofnaud]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Removing that Weirs Beach, single railroad track, that's about 9'6" wide with the wood RR-ties and replacing it with a 10-12' wide walking, running, and bicycling trail paved with gray stone dust gravel could really power-up both of these Winnipesaukee Pier and Winnipesaukee Marketplace building venues.

DPW and municipal trucks like fire rescue vehicles are all usually 8'-wide, and most public roads and interstate highways have lanes that are 12' wide so removing the very much under-used single RR-track and wood ties and replacing it with a gray granite stone dust gravel tourist/community trail would be a hugely welcome improvement to the Weirs waterfront area!

Here in 2021-central New Hampshire, everything gets moved by a car or a truck with black rubber, inflated tires, and nothing gets moved on the steel railroad rails, no more.

*groan* ack, please,,, no.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Removing that Weirs Beach, single railroad track, that's about 9'6" wide with the wood RR-ties and replacing it with a 10-12' wide walking, running, and bicycling trail paved with gray stone dust gravel could really power-up both of these Winnipesaukee Pier and Winnipesaukee Marketplace building venues.

DPW and municipal trucks like fire rescue vehicles are all usually 8'-wide, and most public roads and interstate highways have lanes that are 12' wide so removing the very much under-used single RR-track and wood ties and replacing it with a gray granite stone dust gravel tourist/community trail would be a hugely welcome improvement to the Weirs waterfront area!

Here in 2021-central New Hampshire, everything gets moved by a car or a truck with black rubber, inflated tires, and nothing gets moved on the steel railroad rails, no more.

Absolutely not.

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[fatlazyless]

Photographs .... http://www.americantrails.org/resour...r-fines-trails .... showing crushed granite stone dust gravel trails .... more natural looking and more water absorbent than paved black asphalt .... the way to do it with the Paugus Bay-Weirs Beach-Meredith Bay trail after removing those ugly, two steel rails and wood rr-ties.

That single railroad track that runs through the Weirs has become basically a total waste of a State of NH waterfront embankment. During the 2020-pandemic, the Winnipesaukee Rail Road scenic railroad car service was closed due to the confines of the railroad cars and the coronavirus. If that embankment had been a 12' wide granite gravel trail, it would have been used by many different trail-goers on foot, in running shoes, in wheel chairs, with walkers, on bicycles ..... regardless the pandemic .... as a go-to place to get away from the pandemic .... similar to a hiking trail.

With the railroad occupying the embankment, it has become an ugly, private property, under-used waterfront property. The lake belongs to the people of the State of NH, and the same should be true for what is now the railroad's embankment by removing the single rr-track and making it into a trail.

Remove that ugly old and totally UNUSED rr-track, and build it into a trail, 12' wide, made using small, fine, crushed gray granite paving gravel.

http://www.thisoldhouse.com/sidewalk...ly-gravel-path

Ok ....... so, here's a question for Wednesday, January 6, 2021: What will be 12-feet wide, 9-miles long, paved with gray granite crushed stone, and run along the shoreline of Lake Winnipesaukee going from Laconia to Weirs Beach to Meredith?

[Patofnaud]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

During the 2020-pandemic, the Winnipesaukee Rail Road scenic railroad car service was closed due to the confines of the railroad cars and the coronavirus.

Untrue. I know, I used it a couple of times this year. Not everyone likes to walk trails, not everyone CAN walk trails. My grandson loved his train ride. This tearing down stuff because YOU do not use without regard for how others feel about it is getting old.

Anyways, this is not a rail-trail thread, back to your normal programming.

Great that Marketplace is getting a facelift. Kudos to EastCoast.

[Top-Water]

Originally Posted by Patofnaud

Great that Marketplace is getting a facelift. Kudos to EastCoast.

Thank you for mentioning this.

[Trail Goer]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Photographs .... http://www.americantrails.org/resour...r-fines-trails .... showing crushed granite stone dust gravel trails .... more natural looking and more water absorbent than paved black asphalt .... the way to do it with the Paugus Bay-Weirs Beach-Meredith Bay trail after removing those ugly, two steel rails and wood rr-ties.

That single railroad track that runs through the Weirs has become basically a total waste of a State of NH waterfront embankment. During the 2020-pandemic, the Winnipesaukee Rail Road scenic railroad car service was closed due to the confines of the railroad cars and the coronavirus. If that embankment had been a 12' wide granite gravel trail, it would have been used by many different trail-goers on foot, in running shoes, in wheel chairs, with walkers, on bicycles ..... regardless the pandemic .... as a go-to place to get away from the pandemic .... similar to a hiking trail.

With the railroad occupying the embankment, it has become an ugly, private property, under-used waterfront property. The lake belongs to the people of the State of NH, and the same should be true for what is now the railroad's embankment by removing the single rr-track and making it into a trail.

Remove that ugly old and totally UNUSED rr-track, and build it into a trail, 12' wide, made using small, fine, crushed gray granite paving gravel.

http://www.thisoldhouse.com/sidewalk...ly-gravel-path

Ok ....... so, here's a question for Wednesday, January 6, 2021: What will be 12-feet wide, 9-miles long, paved with gray granite crushed stone, and run along the shoreline of Lake Winnipesaukee going from Laconia to Weirs Beach to Meredith?

*Sigh* Not this again!
This issue with the WOW Trail, was put to bed in November 2019.

[BroadHopper]

I thought Winni Martketplace land and building was owned by the Ames family? It is unusual that the family will sell and of their holdings unless the boys have a change of heart.

FlightCraft have been doing a great job on their recent holdings. But tearing down a century-old landmark is going a bit too far.

[BrunoSR]

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

I thought Winni Martketplace land and building was owned by the Ames family? It is unusual that the family will sell and of their holdings unless the boys have a change of heart.

FlightCraft have been doing a great job on their recent holdings. But tearing down a century-old landmark is going a bit too far.

Where did you see they were tearing the building down? I haven't heard that.

[TiltonBB]

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

I thought Winni Martketplace land and building was owned by the Ames family? It is unusual that the family will sell and of their holdings unless the boys have a change of heart.

FlightCraft have been doing a great job on their recent holdings. But tearing down a century-old landmark is going a bit too far.

It was owned by the Ames's since 1992. They sold it in October 2020 for $250,000.

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

It was owned by the Ames's since 1992. They sold it in October 2020 for $250,000.

Sounds like a bargain price.

[fatlazyless]

Originally Posted by Biggd

Sounds like a bargain price.

The #1 best way to improve this Winnipesaukee Marketplace, 21 Weeks St, Laconia location is to remove the adjacent, single railroad track and wood ties and replace it with a 12' wide, PUBLIC walking/running/bicycle trail, paved with gray granite, small crushed stone that goes from Lakeport to Weirs Beach to Meredith.

It could be a significant game changer for the Weirs Beach, Lakeside Ave area.

Suggest you go take a good look at the building and the location over on Google Map/Earth.

[Biggd]

Same @#$% over and over and over again!

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

The #1 best way to improve this Winnipesaukee Marketplace, 21 Weeks St, Laconia location is to remove the adjacent, single railroad track and wood ties and replace it with a 12' wide, PUBLIC walking/running/bicycle trail, paved with gray granite, small crushed stone that goes from Lakeport to Weirs Beach to Meredith.

It could be a significant game changer for the Weirs Beach, Lakeside Ave area.

Suggest you go take a good look at the building and the location over on Google Map/Earth.

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[fatlazyless]

Originally Posted by Biggd

Same @#$% over and over and over again!

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For a business to succeed, it needs customers, and replacing that ugly, mostly not used single railroad track with a 9-mile long, walking-running-bicycle trail would bring a lot more people and customers to and through the Weirs, Lakeside Ave business area. Replacing the railroad track with a 12-foot wide, gray fine gravel trail, would be a big business boost to both the Winnipesaukee Marketplace, the Winnipesaukee Pier and other nearby business venues including the Mount Washington cruise ship.

Visitors could pedal a bicycle from Meredith to Weirs Beach to Lakeport, and return, and take a 2 1/2-hour cruise on the Mount Washington along the way to take a scenic lake boat tour in the middle of their bicycle pedal trek. Or, they can take a break from bicycling and hit The Dive for an hour, or something.

[garysanfran]

Without a bike, how do those folks with money in their pockets get from Meredith to The Weirs without the train? I've also seen people getting off the train at The Weirs and getting back on later for the trip back to where they came from.

The train is a bit of local scenic nostalgia that I love seeing go by when I'm in the boat exiting Weirs Channel into Paugus Bay. The train is on the right through a stretch with no houses and the entire train is visible...

[fatlazyless]

Well ...... the distance along the existing train track from Lakeport to Weirs Beach is about three miles, and from Weirs Beach to Meredith is about six miles. It runs alongside the lake shoreline for the most ways, is flat, level, and mostly straight with a few curves.

It is a single railroad track that has been in place since sometime like 1885.

99.5% or more of the time, it is totally empty of any railroad train, so it is almost totally unused.

The embankment shoreline land is owned by the State of New Hampshire and leased out to the Winnipesaukee Railroad, a warm weather, tourist railroad business that carries passengers out for a scenic railroad ride.

Without pedaling a bicycle, people can walk, wheel chair, ambulatory care walker, cross country ski or bypass the proposed new replacement trail and use a car to get from Meredith to Weirs Beach via Route 3.

This 12-foot wide, fine gray gravel trail could be built so it is two inches higher at the center line, a trail crest or high area, for best drainage of rainfall and snow melt.

Pedaling a bicycle and walking are the primary use on what would be a two-way, 12'-wide, gray fine small gravel trail with NO motorized vehicles allowed except for the dpw, police and fire.

[Top-Water]

Same @#$% over and over and over again!

[Blyblvrd]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

For a business to succeed, it needs customers, and replacing that ugly, mostly not used single railroad track with a 9-mile long, walking-running-bicycle trail would bring a lot more people and customers to and through the Weirs, Lakeside Ave business area. Replacing the railroad track with a 12-foot wide, gray fine gravel trail, would be a big business boost to both the Winnipesaukee Marketplace, the Winnipesaukee Pier and other nearby business venues including the Mount Washington cruise ship.

Visitors could pedal a bicycle from Meredith to Weirs Beach to Lakeport, and return, and take a 2 1/2-hour cruise on the Mount Washington along the way to take a scenic lake boat tour in the middle of their bicycle pedal trek. Or, they can take a break from bicycling and hit The Dive for an hour, or something.

The best way for this forum to succeed is to remove FLL from it.


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[Biggd]

Originally Posted by Blyblvrd

The best way for this forum to succeed is to remove FLL from it.


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That's a little extreme, don't you think?
He's harmless, he just litters the forum with nonsense. You don't have to read it.

[Charlie T]

Originally Posted by Blyblvrd

The best way for this forum to succeed is to remove FLL from it.


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It seems to me this forum is pretty damn sucessful, thanks to Don's unwavering efforts. FLL though mostly spewing nonsense is pretty harmless, his posts do offer a lighthearted view of things. As others have said, if you don't want to read his post's........ DON"T

Charlie T

[garysanfran]

The trend today is to stamp out diversity of opinion. You have an opinion opposite mine? You must be wrong. You must be removed!

This site would be boring without diversity of opinion. And it is true, some division is destructive and some constructive. Chose wisely.

FLL is a neighbor of mine. DO I want him removed?

Nope!

[Blyblvrd]

Originally Posted by garysanfran

The trend today is to stamp out diversity of opinion. You have an opinion opposite mine? You must be wrong. You must be removed!

Well that escalated pretty quickly! It was intended to be a sarcastic joke, my apologies if it offended anyone. I posted my comment not because I disagree with his opinion, I have no opinion on this topic, but because the same rhetoric over and over, personal statements that don’t ever really seem to add to the narrative of the forum topic, are getting old for me. It’s just my opinion. I’ll return to my usual practice of taking a break from this forum until my batteries are recharged and I can read what I love about Winni and scroll past FLL’s comments.


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[Blyblvrd]

Originally Posted by Charlie T

It seems to me this forum is pretty damn sucessful, thanks to Don's unwavering efforts. FLL though mostly spewing nonsense is pretty harmless, his posts do offer a lighthearted view of things. As others have said, if you don't want to read his post's........ DON"T

Charlie T

Agree on all points.


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[Descant]

Originally Posted by Blyblvrd

Well that escalated pretty quickly! It was intended to be a sarcastic joke, my apologies if it offended anyone. I posted my comment not because I disagree with his opinion, I have no opinion on this topic, but because the same rhetoric over and over, personal statements that don’t ever really seem to add to the narrative of the forum topic, are getting old for me. It’s just my opinion. I’ll return to my usual practice of taking a break from this forum until my batteries are recharged and I can read what I love about Winni and scroll past FLL’s comments.


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1. If you don't like somebody's posts, you can block them. If it is an important post, the next reader will likely quote it ad you can read it there as something that has been vouched for by another reader as being worthy.
2. I too, have made what I thought were amusing or sarcastic remarks and resulted in the next several posters bringing the wrath of Khan down upon me. When you make such a post, include (LOL) at the end so the illiterates who take everything literally and seriously, will understand (LOL).

[garysanfran]

Originally Posted by Blyblvrd

Well that escalated pretty quickly! It was intended to be a sarcastic joke, my apologies if it offended anyone. I posted my comment not because I disagree with his opinion, I have no opinion on this topic, but because the same rhetoric over and over, personal statements that don’t ever really seem to add to the narrative of the forum topic, are getting old for me. It’s just my opinion. I’ll return to my usual practice of taking a break from this forum until my batteries are recharged and I can read what I love about Winni and scroll past FLL’s comments.


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Do not leave...Your opinions are very welcome in the spirit of shared cohesion. Our country is very divided and we need a Statesman approach to this divisiveness.

[fatlazyless]

Originally Posted by Biggd

Sounds like a bargain price.

Someone here must have the 'puter skills to post some good photos here from Google Maps/Earth for that Winnipesaukee Marketplace at 21 Weeks St to show why it probably got sold for what seems like a low price at $250,000.

Looking at the layout for this location, it seems to have some very wackadoozie access issues with that single railroad track, the overhead pedestrian foot bridge, and visibility from Lakeside Ave. It adds up to a business impossible situation, here, there, at 21 Weeks St ....... that Winnipesaukee Marketplace location is just totally doomed by the railroad track being there.

Once upon a time, many many years ago, that single railroad track was probably the source for many customers to this 21 Weeks St building for wharever type of retail use, it had. With basically NO TRAINS on the railroad track, there are NO CUSTOMERS for that Winnipesaukee Marketplace building (period!) coming in or as not seen by a potential customer on Lakeside Ave.

[BrunoSR]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Someone here must have the 'puter skills to post some good photos here from Google Maps/Earth for that Winnipesaukee Marketplace at 21 Weeks St to show why it probably got sold for what seems like a low price at $250,000.

Looking at the layout for this location, it seems to have some very wackadoozie access issues with that single railroad track, the overhead pedestrian foot bridge, and visibility from Lakeside Ave. It adds up to a business impossible situation, here, there, at 21 Weeks St ....... that Winnipesaukee Marketplace location is just totally doomed by the railroad track being there.

Once upon a time, many many years ago, that single railroad track was probably the source for many customers to this 21 Weeks St building for wharever type of retail use, it had. With basically NO TRAINS on the railroad track, there are NO CUSTOMERS for that Winnipesaukee Marketplace building (period!) coming in or as not seen by a potential customer on Lakeside Ave.

Any reason to take a shot at the railroad??

I know the folks at Flight Craft, they are smart and great folks. I am sure they know what they are doing and the RR won't hinder them at all.

[SAMIAM]

FLL is an interesting guy. He does make lots of eccentric and rambling posts but on the rare occasion that he is serious his posts are well researched and intelligent. Also, he never takes offense when someone makes fun of him and I don't ever recall an angry response directed at anyone.
Just my .02

[upthesaukee]

Originally Posted by SAMIAM

FLL is an interesting guy. He does make lots of eccentric and rambling posts but on the rare occasion that he is serious his posts are well researched and intelligent. Also, he never takes offense when someone makes fun of him and I don't ever recall an angry response directed at anyone.
Just my .02

Quite true.

However, there are sometimes that wherever FLL writes his posts, there seems to be an echo, echo, echo, echo-o-o-o within the same thread.

Dave

[thinkxingu]

I find it takes less effort to scroll past what I don't want to read than to complain about it.

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[phoenix]

there are some other posters that have different posts but this should be open to all. With the exception of vitriolic posts. Keep them coming FLL and agree with Bob you have some good posts and some longer " different ones" . each of us should decide what we want to read. Don of course moderates the offensive ones. I have been on this forum a long time and it gives me insight and chuckles at times. Since I am only at the lake a few months a year this forum keeps me wanting to come back again

[Denis D]

Originally Posted by SAMIAM

FLL is an interesting guy. He does make lots of eccentric and rambling posts but on the rare occasion that he is serious his posts are well researched and intelligent. Also, he never takes offense when someone makes fun of him and I don't ever recall an angry response directed at anyone.
Just my .02

I've often thought that FLL has everyone fooled and is probably a brilliant Ivy league college professor who took some acting classes and uses the forum to practice his skills

That said, I enjoy reading most of his posts.

[fatlazyless]

Thanks for all your forum support ...... is totally great to be here in central New Hampshire and the Winnipesaukee Forum is more fun than a six-pak of Guinness dark in those lovely 16-oz bottles ..... here-here!

So what's the lastest with someone going to Google Maps/Earth and posting some excellent quality photos showing the wackadoozie location and the wackadoozie access and the wackadoozie design for this Winnipesaukee Marketplace building at 21 Weeks St that recently got sold to Flightcraft for $250,000?

....... helloooooo garysanfran ........ you did a super excellent job with those big, up close railroad photos!

[WinnisquamZ]

Went by today. It’s painted navy blue. I thought it was white?


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[LoveLakeLife]

Wow navy blue? If you go by again would you snap a picture for us?


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[Descant]

Originally Posted by WinnisquamZ

Went by today. It’s painted navy blue. I thought it was white?

Maybe this will be a trend and the Veteran's Homes will go back to showing their regimental colors instead of the Army surplus gray they started in the 50's?
Maybe there's more to come? Red, white and blue for the marketplace would be fun.

[Joby]

I agree. Red white and blue would be beautiful.