Go Back   Winnipesaukee Forum > Winnipesaukee Forums > General Discussion
Home Forums Gallery Blogs YouTube Channel Classifieds Links Calendar Register FAQDonate Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-17-2019, 08:15 PM   #101
Woody38
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 366
Thanks: 36
Thanked 53 Times in 36 Posts
Default

Rather than a lighthouse, what about this. Place something like day markers on the witches. These would be large enough for everyone to see and could be lit at night. I personally find the channel markers difficult to find evenas I know where they are located.

_________________________________

I m a retired workaholic and continuing aquaholic
Woody38 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Woody38 For This Useful Post:
Jeanzb1 (08-24-2019), kawishiwi (08-18-2019)
Old 08-24-2019, 05:28 AM   #102
TiltonBB
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Gilford, NH and Florida
Posts: 1,489
Thanks: 227
Thanked 839 Times in 345 Posts
Default Public Meeting Monday

There will be a meeting on Monday, Aug. 26, to discuss the lighthouse idea and gauge public opinion and support of the proposal. The meeting will begin at 7 p.m. at the Marine Patrol headquarters in Gilford.

From the Laconia Sun:

https://www.laconiadailysun.com/news...ntent=headline
TiltonBB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2019, 08:32 AM   #103
GodSmile
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Alton Bay
Posts: 122
Thanks: 74
Thanked 37 Times in 22 Posts
Default Marine Patrol Involvement

I think the efforts of the Marine Patrol would be better directed to patrolling the lake to insure adherence to current rules.
GodSmile is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to GodSmile For This Useful Post:
Jeanzb1 (08-24-2019), tis (08-25-2019), Top-Water (08-24-2019), Wifi-1 (08-24-2019)
Old 08-24-2019, 07:55 PM   #104
TiltonBB
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Gilford, NH and Florida
Posts: 1,489
Thanks: 227
Thanked 839 Times in 345 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GodSmile View Post
I think the efforts of the Marine Patrol would be better directed to patrolling the lake to insure adherence to current rules.
The Marine Patrol has not taken any position, did not originate the idea, and only offered to host an informational meeting. This lighthouse movement is from the efforts of someone outside the agency. The meeting seems like an excellent way for the Marine Patrol to let the discussion happen and see what the general public thinks. I am glad that they want our opinion.

"Dunleavy said he offered for his agency to host the meeting as a means to measure that support. However, he stopped short of saying whether he would cast his vote in support of the proposal.

If I want to vote on something, I want to be informed and Im not there yet, he said.

The best way for boaters to protect themselves is to be aware of where they are and how to interpret navigational markers, he said."
TiltonBB is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to TiltonBB For This Useful Post:
MBNeckguy (08-24-2019)
Old 08-25-2019, 06:30 PM   #105
Weekend Pundit
Senior Member
 
Weekend Pundit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Gilford
Posts: 186
Thanks: 7
Thanked 12 Times in 9 Posts
Default Wrong Meeting Location

Quote:
Originally Posted by TiltonBB View Post
There will be a meeting on Monday, Aug. 26, to discuss the lighthouse idea and gauge public opinion and support of the proposal. The meeting will begin at 7 p.m. at the Marine Patrol headquarters in Gilford.

From the Laconia Sun:

https://www.laconiadailysun.com/news...ntent=headline
The meeting is being held at the Gilford Town Hall, Conference Room A, at 7pm. It is not being held at the Marine Patrol HQ.
Weekend Pundit is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 08-25-2019, 08:42 PM   #106
TiltonBB
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Gilford, NH and Florida
Posts: 1,489
Thanks: 227
Thanked 839 Times in 345 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Weekend Pundit View Post
The meeting is being held at the Gilford Town Hall, Conference Room A, at 7pm. It is not being held at the Marine Patrol HQ.
My bad! I read the Marine Patrol was hosting it and missed the rest of the sentence. Thank you for the help
TiltonBB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2019, 06:40 AM   #107
brk-lnt
Senior Member
 
brk-lnt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: South Down Shores
Posts: 1,799
Thanks: 477
Thanked 520 Times in 297 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Descant View Post
To me, a lighthouse is just not a serious proposal, for financial reasons if nothing else. However to be financially practical, I suggest the following:
the State of NH can lease rights to a commercial operation, (say, Bizer, who started this thread). We already lease antenna space on the top of Mount Washington. The commercial operator could install a motion detector or other electronic device that would trigger a warning on your cell phone (using the "operator's" app and your paid subscription) when you approach too close to the Witches. You pay a subscription fee to the operator, with the cost based on how many hazards you want to be warned away from.
So your basic concept is that as you are approaching a navigational hazard, your phone dings so you can divert your attention to it?
__________________
[insert witty phrase here]
brk-lnt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2019, 08:05 AM   #108
thinkxingu
Senior Member
 
thinkxingu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 2,377
Thanks: 641
Thanked 664 Times in 386 Posts
Default

I dunno, friends, all this stuff seems so simple: be responsible or face the consequences. The line (for me, at least) is when it comes to life-threatening issues and, as best I know, historically the Witches have only destroyed dreams and outdrives.

They're marked, prominently--anything else is going too far. Some might even make the case that this type of prevention is, ultimately, enabling.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
thinkxingu is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to thinkxingu For This Useful Post:
brk-lnt (08-26-2019), GodSmile (08-26-2019), Winni P (08-26-2019)
Old 08-26-2019, 08:59 AM   #109
WinnisquamZ
Senior Member
 
WinnisquamZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 218
Thanks: 72
Thanked 46 Times in 34 Posts
Default

If it was Lake Michigan you would just drill a few holes and blow it up to a reasonable depth


Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app
WinnisquamZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2019, 11:30 AM   #110
Woodsy
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Weirs Beach
Posts: 1,608
Thanks: 52
Thanked 710 Times in 290 Posts
Default Silly Idea!

This is just SILLY!

To begin with we don't have a lot of Boat V. Witches collisions. It is a VERY RARE occurrence!

Secondly... we already have a way of marking this area. We could easily and cheaply use the diamond shaped "danger" markers in addition to the current spar buoys!


Woodsy
Attached Images
 
__________________
The only way to eliminate ignorant behavior is through education. You can't fix stupid.
Woodsy is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Woodsy For This Useful Post:
brk-lnt (08-26-2019)
Old 08-26-2019, 03:16 PM   #111
Descant
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Merrimack and Welch Island
Posts: 1,727
Thanks: 527
Thanked 517 Times in 332 Posts
Default Orange Barrels

Many years ago(60's?) there were several orange barrels ringed with reflective tape surrounding the Witches. Highly visible day and night. I'd guess they were discontinued as being unnecessary. I agree with unnecessary.
Descant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2019, 07:20 PM   #112
TiltonBB
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Gilford, NH and Florida
Posts: 1,489
Thanks: 227
Thanked 839 Times in 345 Posts
Default

Why not tell all the marine contractors that build breakwaters on the lake that they can have the rocks free. Just pull in with your barge and excavator and load up and take them away. In a few short years the Witches will no longer exist and you can throw all the markers away.
TiltonBB is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to TiltonBB For This Useful Post:
ApS (08-26-2019), Biggd (08-27-2019), Wifi-1 (08-27-2019)
Old 08-27-2019, 03:57 AM   #113
Wifi-1
Senior Member
 
Wifi-1's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Moultonboro, NH
Posts: 65
Thanks: 67
Thanked 23 Times in 18 Posts
Default

Great idea, but someone will discover some sort of life growing among the rocks, that can't be disturbed. Of course, this will be after a $10M study.... lol
Wifi-1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2019, 07:43 AM   #114
Hillcountry
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: In the hills
Posts: 1,620
Thanks: 824
Thanked 384 Times in 250 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TiltonBB View Post
Why not tell all the marine contractors that build breakwaters on the lake that they can have the rocks free. Just pull in with your barge and excavator and load up and take them away. In a few short years the Witches will no longer exist and you can throw all the markers away.
So, is The Witches just a pile of rocks or more of a ledge outcropping?
If a pile of rocks were they deposited by glacier or man made many moons ago?
Hillcountry is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2019, 08:58 AM   #115
shore things
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 465
Thanks: 10
Thanked 318 Times in 124 Posts
Default

It's a pile of rocks strewn about on top of a ledge outcropping. It is a natural formation.
shore things is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to shore things For This Useful Post:
Hillcountry (08-27-2019)
Old 08-27-2019, 09:00 AM   #116
Biggd
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Waltham Ma./Meredith NH
Posts: 1,807
Thanks: 507
Thanked 342 Times in 234 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by shore things View Post
It's a pile of rocks strewn about on top of a ledge outcropping. It is a natural formation.
And I thought it was built by witches?
Biggd is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Biggd For This Useful Post:
ishoot308 (08-27-2019), pondguy (08-27-2019), rander7823 (08-27-2019)
Old 08-27-2019, 10:43 AM   #117
LIforrelaxin
Senior Member
 
LIforrelaxin's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Long Island, not that one, the one on Winnipesaukee
Posts: 2,249
Thanks: 788
Thanked 641 Times in 349 Posts
Default

All of this is so funny to me... Why because this is all about liability.... Some people say the witches aren't distinguishable enough, some think they are.....

As I said once before, if this light house where to happen, then we will end up seeing more over time, in other area's such as middle ground shoal....

I personally don't care either way... what I care about is how it will get funded. How will it be maintained etc.

Now what people may not realize is that there is presedence for this.... There are light houses on Lake Sunapee.....

http://www.lakesunapee.org/lighthouses

I say if people really want to see this kind of thing in place "in the name of safety" let it happen, but don't expect the state to build it, maintain it etc. they answer is already there.... if the state will allow it, figure out how to build it and maintain it yourself.....
__________________
Life is about how much time you can spend relaxing... I do it on an island that isn't really an island.....
LIforrelaxin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2019, 10:55 AM   #118
Descant
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Merrimack and Welch Island
Posts: 1,727
Thanks: 527
Thanked 517 Times in 332 Posts
Default Olden days

Quote:
Originally Posted by TiltonBB View Post
Why not tell all the marine contractors that build breakwaters on the lake that they can have the rocks free. Just pull in with your barge and excavator and load up and take them away. In a few short years the Witches will no longer exist and you can throw all the markers away.
I believe mining the Witches was OK and done post war, 1950's, pre DES days. I recall that boulders were removed to improve navigation on the east side of the Hole in the Wall, mid late 1950's.
As for building more breakwaters, it appears that, per your own new thread about Lockes Island boat crash, breakwaters are also a hazard to navigation. Hope nobody was hurt.
Descant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2019, 11:43 AM   #119
Winni P
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: S. Shore, MA/Saunders Bay
Posts: 83
Thanks: 121
Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts
Default Meeting update?

Does anyone have an update from the lighthouse meeting?
Winni P is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2019, 01:26 PM   #120
Hillcountry
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: In the hills
Posts: 1,620
Thanks: 824
Thanked 384 Times in 250 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggd View Post
And I thought it was built by witches?
Lol...”there be witches here”! They put a spell on your lower unit if you ignore their warnings!
Hillcountry is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2019, 03:18 PM   #121
TiltonBB
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Gilford, NH and Florida
Posts: 1,489
Thanks: 227
Thanked 839 Times in 345 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Descant View Post
As for building more breakwaters, it appears that, per your own new thread about Lockes Island boat crash, breakwaters are also a hazard to navigation. Hope nobody was hurt.
I'm not sure that breakwater was a hazard to navigation. If you are out of control that close to shore I don't think the breakwater is the problem. It looks like the breakwater saved the attached dock, and if there was a boat at that dock it would have saved that too.
TiltonBB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2019, 03:42 PM   #122
Descant
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Merrimack and Welch Island
Posts: 1,727
Thanks: 527
Thanked 517 Times in 332 Posts
Default

Sorry. I thought the irony came through all on its own. I didn't add LOL or similar because the accident is not funny, just the two posts in two threads, both by TiltonBB have some internal irony.
Descant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2019, 10:25 AM   #123
hilltopper
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Meredith
Posts: 670
Thanks: 23
Thanked 97 Times in 59 Posts
Default Meeting article in the LaDaSun

https://www.laconiadailysun.com/news...0a0474111.html
hilltopper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2019, 10:19 AM   #124
Kamper
Senior Member
 
Kamper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Thornton's Ferry
Posts: 1,201
Thanks: 65
Thanked 144 Times in 108 Posts
Default

Do we have any rocks big enough for this attention getter?
Attached Images
 
Kamper is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Kamper For This Useful Post:
Biggd (08-29-2019)
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:18 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions Inc.

This page was generated in 0.31182 seconds