Bike Week

[hd333]

How are the crowds this year?

Headed up tomorrow for a concert at Meadowbrook, trying to figure how much of a delay we will see heading that way from Center Harbor area.


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[ishoot308]

Originally Posted by hd333

How are the crowds this year?

Headed up tomorrow for a concert at Meadowbrook, trying to figure how much of a delay we will see heading that way from Center Harbor area.


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Not sure about coming from Center Harbor, but I just drove by The Patrick’s Pub / Sawyers intersection on route 11 at 6:00 PM tonight and no traffic at all. Not sure what the Weirs would be like...

Dan

[TiltonBB]

Originally Posted by ishoot308

Not sure about coming from Center Harbor, but I just drove by The Patrick’s Pub / Sawyers intersection on route 11 at 6:00 PM tonight and no traffic at all. Not sure what the Weirs would be like...

Dan

And that is with the Dave Matthews band at Meadowbrook tonight too.

[PaugusBayFireFighter]

I took a short video this morning. Looks like a weekend crowd. Not bad for a Tuesday. Weather is always a factor.
This was the Hill Climb event on Tower Street.



https://youtu.be/AsHSQk4TTxU

[TiltonBB]

The most back up has been route 3 going south into the Weirs. Over the weekend it was backed up to the Meredith Bay development at times.

Weirs Boulevard has hardly slowed down thus far. Even over the weekend it might have backed up as far as the NASWA a few times but I doubt anyone lost more than 10 minutes in traffic.

Endicot Street North has had some back ups over the weekend but today it didn't back up much at all.

Overall, I would say the number of people and vehicles has continued the decline of the last 10 to 15 years.

[ITD]

I was just on rt 25 in Center Harbor, I would say it is dead, not much traffic. I do expect it to pick up tomorrow, but it is much less than I expected. I also saw a June 9 to 16 DWI checkpoint sign on 104, so don't drink and drive people.

[Slickcraft]

From Meredith I would consider going down Parade Rd (106) to Elm St. to Lakeport bypassing the Weirs.

[Hillcountry]

Wow... what a lame excuse for a “hill climb”
Not like I remember them...

[steve-on-mark]

Originally Posted by Hillcountry

Wow... what a lame excuse for a “hill climb”
Not like I remember them...

The " real hill climb" is tomorrow...always on Wednesday!

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[Biggd]

This has probably been the best weather for bike week in a long time.

[garysanfran]

And overall, as the biker population ages, their activities become more tame.

[Hillcountry]

Originally Posted by garysanfran

And overall, as the biker population ages, their activities become more tame.

Yup...just like the event itself! Glad I was here in the old days!

[Rusty]

The LDS has a good article about the hill climb:
https://www.laconiadailysun.com/news...53d91f506.html

[garysanfran]

Originally Posted by Hillcountry

Yup...just like the event itself! Glad I was here in the old days!

in the 60'. The bikers were "heathens" needing to be controlled by the National Guard. A car or two got turned upside down. Cops got to practice baton swings.

Then, as the bikers got older, they got money. The event became a viable part of the New Hampshire economic plan. The crowd I interacted with on Tuesday was very friendly, courteous and they bought a lot of pizza and hot dogs. A very large "burly" biker accidentally bumped into me and he couldn't have been more apologetic.

I heard the Pres. of Harley Davidson, on a radio show, commenting/lamenting on the fact that younger people are not getting into biking so much and their client base is fading, and thusly, so is Laconia Motorcycle Week's attendance.

[jbolty]

Originally Posted by garysanfran

in the 60'. The bikers were "heathens" needing to be controlled by the National Guard. A car or two got turned upside down. Cops got to practice baton swings.

Then, as the bikers got older, they got money. The event became a viable part of the New Hampshire economic plan. The crowd I interacted with on Tuesday was very friendly, courteous and they bought a lot of pizza and hot dogs. A very large "burly" biker accidentally bumped into me and he couldn't have been more apologetic.

I heard the Pres. of Harley Davidson, on a radio show, commenting/lamenting on the fact that younger people are not getting into biking so much and their client base is fading, and thusly, so is Laconia Motorcycle Week's attendance.

Motorized entertainment including racing, off roading and general car culture is fading and has been. Motorcycles cost as much as a car now and the days of fixing up some old junker are about over. Kids don't know or care about working on engines and even if they did the electronics make it way harder.


Add to that the fact they everyone has their nose glued to their phone so meeting and talking to real people face to face is a lost art as well. Standing around and discussing some guys fully restored Indian or Yamaha with a Harley engine and kawasaki rear wheel is just not a thing any more.

Too bad but times change

[Hillcountry]

Lol @ “heathens”
Maybe some of the HA but definitely not the majority...just working class guys letting off steam for a few days...

[VitaBene]

Originally Posted by jbolty

Motorized entertainment including racing, off roading and general car culture is fading and has been. Motorcycles cost as much as a car now and the days of fixing up some old junker are about over. Kids don't know or care about working on engines and even if they did the electronics make it way harder.


Add to that the fact they everyone has their nose glued to their phone so meeting and talking to real people face to face is a lost art as well. Standing around and discussing some guys fully restored Indian or Yamaha with a Harley engine and kawasaki rear wheel is just not a thing any more.

Too bad but times change

The younger people are doing many things virtually that we did/ do in person. No thanks!!

[Merrymeeting]

The biggest tell for me that it is aging and will die out is the fact that AARP is one of the biggest sponsors this year!

[dogma]

The weather has been terrific so most bikers are out on rides and not hanging at the Weirs

[Dave R]

Originally Posted by Merrymeeting

The biggest tell for me that it is aging and will die out is the fact that AARP is one of the biggest sponsors this year!

The catheter tent was quite the shocker.

[LIforrelaxin]

Times change they always do. As the cost of hobbies goes up, people are forced to make choices. 30-40 years ago having a motorcycle and a boat was not unthinkable even in the Northeast were the season is short. But now, with the cost many people, like me make a choice... For me it was boating with out a doubt. I also have invested in a camper and love doing that with my family as well...

Investing in more toys when I already have 3 (Boat, Jet Ski, and Camper) that can be used only in the summer just doesn't make sense. I just don't have that much time. Not to mention my wife doesn't like Motorcycles, so it would be a toy for only me to enjoy....

Bottom line I love Bike Week always have, I have met many good people when I have had the opportunity to make my way to the Weirs....In years past I have been invited back to camp grounds and hotels to party... I have also taken people I have met out for boat rides... But people aren't as social anymore. Yes they are polite etc. but it is not as social as they used to be.

Top the decline of the social part of the event, with new laws and an ever increasing Police Presence, the event will continue to dwindle. The problem is as the event dwindles, the "Heathens" will become more and more noticeable and draw more attention to the Bad aspects of the event. Thus we have a vicious cycle.......

[garysanfran]

Originally Posted by LIforrelaxin

Times change they always do. As the cost of hobbies goes up, people are forced to make choices. 30-40 years ago having a motorcycle and a boat was not unthinkable even in the Northeast were the season is short. But now, with the cost many people, like me make a choice... For me it was boating with out a doubt. I also have invested in a camper and love doing that with my family as well...

Investing in more toys when I already have 3 (Boat, Jet Ski, and Camper) that can be used only in the summer just doesn't make sense. I just don't have that much time. Not to mention my wife doesn't like Motorcycles, so it would be a toy for only me to enjoy....

Bottom line I love Bike Week always have, I have met many good people when I have had the opportunity to make my way to the Weirs....In years past I have been invited back to camp grounds and hotels to party... I have also taken people I have met out for boat rides... But people aren't as social anymore. Yes they are polite etc. but it is not as social as they used to be.

Top the decline of the social part of the event, with new laws and an ever increasing Police Presence, the event will continue to dwindle. The problem is as the event dwindles, the "Heathens" will become more and more noticeable and draw more attention to the Bad aspects of the event. Thus we have a vicious cycle.......

This was the cop watching over the Tower Hill climb event. I thought if there was an "incident" during the climb, it would be an event watching him run up the hill

[Hillcountry]

Originally Posted by Dave R

The catheter tent was quite the shocker.

Ya.. right next to the viagra kiosk!

[garysanfran]

Originally Posted by Hillcountry

Ya.. right next to the viagra kiosk!

I visited both, I can't remember in what order...

[Nauset]

Originally Posted by jbolty

Motorized entertainment including racing, off roading and general car culture is fading and has been. Motorcycles cost as much as a car now and the days of fixing up some old junker are about over. Kids don't know or care about working on engines and even if they did the electronics make it way harder.


Add to that the fact they everyone has their nose glued to their phone so meeting and talking to real people face to face is a lost art as well. Standing around and discussing some guys fully restored Indian or Yamaha with a Harley engine and kawasaki rear wheel is just not a thing any more.

Too bad but times change

The boating industry is facing the same challenges. Younger people are not as interested in buying boats either.

[noreast]

Originally Posted by Nauset

The boating industry is facing the same challenges. Younger people are not as interested in buying boats either.

I don't know about that, Boating has never been a young mans game. The older you get, and the more money you acquire, the more interested you become. Except maybe those that grew up boating.

[jbolty]

Originally Posted by noreast

I don't know about that, Boating has never been a young mans game. The older you get, and the more money you acquire, the more interested you become. Except maybe those that grew up boating.

Originally Posted by Nauset

The boating industry is facing the same challenges. Younger people are not as interested in buying boats either.

I suppose there is an element of not being interested in what you can't afford also. Kids with giant student loans and worthless degrees are not buying much of anything except starbucks.

growing up as a local pretty much no one in my circle had a boat other than something with oars.

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by jbolty

I suppose there is an element of not being interested in what you can't afford also. Kids with giant student loans and worthless degrees are not buying much of anything except starbucks.

growing up as a local pretty much no one in my circle had a boat other than something with oars.

It's not just kids with "useless" degrees. For the past few decades, buying power of a huge segment of America has decreased. My parents could never afford now what they did 30 years ago on machinist's and grocery store clerk's salaries.

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[Hillcountry]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

It's not just kids with "useless" degrees. For the past few decades, buying power of a huge segment of America has decreased. My parents could never afford now what they did 30 years ago on machinist's and grocery store clerk's salaries.

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So true...my father talked me out of buying a house for $40k in the 80’s saying “you’re crazy paying that price...wait til prices come down”
Next chance I had, I had to buy at $210k... ya thanks dad!

[MAXUM]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

It's not just kids with "useless" degrees. For the past few decades, buying power of a huge segment of America has decreased. My parents could never afford now what they did 30 years ago on machinist's and grocery store clerk's salaries.

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The buying power of many has decreased because so many have no concept of living within the means they have and budgeting their money accordingly. Debt loads are high and payments for everything now the norm. It's sad... unnecessary... but a reality of today's way of thinking. Live by a monthly plan die by it as well.

It doesn't take luck or a huge income, just a little self discipline. No it's not always easy but it is doable.

[Doobs41378]

I’m glad I was in my early 20s and able to enjoy it when the crowds were still big around 1999 2000. Was fun to attend and stay the week. I cannot imagine doing that now.


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[garysanfran]

Best weather for motorcycle week in years, but there will always be this damper…

https://www.laconiadailysun.com/news...9fa5e18a5.html

[chipj29]

Originally Posted by garysanfran

Best weather for motorcycle week in years, but there will always be this damper…

https://www.laconiadailysun.com/news...9fa5e18a5.html

Yeah, there have been a bunch of accidents in the area this week. Stay safe out there!

[The Real BigGuy]

Originally Posted by garysanfran

Best weather for motorcycle week in years, but there will always be this damper…



https://www.laconiadailysun.com/news...9fa5e18a5.html

After reading this it makes me wonder why anyone would ride without a helmet. Even the ones where they couldn’t say if a helmet would have prevented injury/death seemed to shout “should have had a helmet.” I understand the “see better w/o” comments but I’m thinking if a lid provided 10% better survivability I’d sacrifice a little vision (or get fitted for a better helmet). With all the four wheels out there driven by people who use only mirrors and never turn their head it seems more “when” than “if.”


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[ishoot308]

Originally Posted by The Real BigGuy

but I’m thinking if a lid provided 10% better survivability I’d sacrifice a little vision (or get fitted for a better helmet)

Honest question...Since most deaths in automobiles are caused by head trauma, wearing a helmet in an automobile can only help your survivability in a crash. Why don't you wear one when driving your car?...

Dan

[The Real BigGuy]

Originally Posted by ishoot308

Honest question...Since most deaths in automobiles are caused by head trauma, wearing a helmet in an automobile can only help your survivability in a crash. Why don't you wear one when driving your car?...



Dan

I’ve been looking but can’t find any data to back up your claim. 30% of all traumatic brain injuries are caused buy auto accidents & 14% of the auto deaths of 14 - 25 year olds are caused by traumatic brain injury. Nothing about auto deaths caused tbi. Can you direct me to your info source?

I’m willing to bet that a much much higher % of motorcycle deaths are caused by tbi then auto deaths. Bottom line is I have a far better survivability in a car being hit by a car then on a bike being hit by a car. Mass & physics.


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[ishoot308]

Originally Posted by The Real BigGuy

I’ve been looking but can’t find any data to back up your claim. 30% of all traumatic brain injuries are caused buy auto accidents & 14% of the auto deaths of 14 - 25 year olds are caused by traumatic brain injury. Nothing about auto deaths caused tbi. Can you direct me to your info source?

I’m willing to bet that a much much higher % of motorcycle deaths are caused by tbi then auto deaths. Bottom line is I have a far better survivability in a car being hit by a car then on a bike being hit by a car. Mass & physics.


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My source of information was the American Automobile Association. I received a letter (spam mail) from them about 8 or so years ago stating this fact. I believe it had something to do with airbags but don't remember completely. Whether they are right or wrong is irrelevant, the fact is helmets do in fact save lives!

The question was a loaded one and the answer is "comfort". We don't wear helmets when driving an automobile because they are uncomfortable, they are hot, they get in the way, whatever you want to call it and 99% of our law makers and the general public allow comfort to supersede safety when it suits them. I find it rather hypocritical when these same lawmakers and public supporters try to force their safety mandates on motorcyclists.

In 2017 there were more than 40,000 automobile deaths in the USA, if even 10% could be stopped by wearing a helmet (i'm sure many more would be the real number) when driving that would be just about equal to all the motorcycle deaths that occurred in 2017 with or without a helmet. So if way more lives can be saved by wearing a helmet in an automobile, why don't we??

As an fyi, I personally do wear a helmet (most of the time) when riding my motorcycle but I want to be the one who chooses when and where...

Thanks!

Dan

[The Real BigGuy]

First year I can remember that you can’t hear the continuous rumble from the other side of the lake.


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[ITD]

Originally Posted by The Real BigGuy

First year I can remember that you can’t hear the continuous rumble from the other side of the lake.


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It's rumbling now, continuously, in the distance.

[Formula260SS]

Ran home last night for my daughter's graduation. Coming back up this morning lots of bikes. My prediction is it bangs this weekend. Good weather brings bikes. Wish I was still on the bike but we rode hard this week. My back hurts..... good year for our crew

[The Real BigGuy]

Yup, iiiittttttsss back!


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[dogma]

Quiet yesterday because lots of bikes headed over to Bentleys.

[webmaster]

I was at Weirs Beach Thursday afternoon and shot this video with my GoPro and gimbal as I walked around:

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by webmaster

I was at Weirs Beach Thursday afternoon and shot this video with my GoPro and gimbal as I walked around:

Link doesn’t work for me.


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[TiltonBB]

Originally Posted by joey2665

Link doesn’t work for me.


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Works fine here.

[GusMan]

Awesome video!

I'm not a biker (bass fisherman Actually)… looks like a lot of fun... and a great collection of custom bikes. I hope the tradition continues.

Cheers...

Gusman

[Rusty]

This screen shot in the video is kind of interesting..the cop was probably just being friending.

[webmaster]

Speaking of cops, I saw this one cruising around on a Segway and asked if I could take his picture:

[Doobs41378]

Originally Posted by webmaster

Speaking of cops, I saw this one cruising around on a Segway and asked if I could take his picture:

I find it hard to take them serious when they roll up on this thing or a horse. Just seems weird to me.


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[joey2665]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

Works fine here.

Would not load from the winni app on my phone.

[Biggd]

I had some friends up for the weekend that still ride and surprisingly they wanted no part of going down to the Weirs. We hung out on my boat most of the weekend and they never got on their bikes again until it was time to go home.

[dpg]

Haha I love the AARP tent in the video.

[The Real BigGuy]

I totally agree w/the idea of choice when it comes to helmets, my point was that I don’t understand why. Poor Richard’s response (someone who rides, I don’t) reinforces my point. I just doesn’t make sense to me.

I see your point about cars but I guess it’s my 50 years of driving without a helmet that taints my thinking. Probably same for long time helmetless bikers.


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[Prestige Worldwide]

I am pleased to report that I had an AWESOME BIKE WEEK! Charlie St Clair will need to find a lot more old people, trikes, and police if he wants to spoil my good time!


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[thinkxingu]

Ooops, changed my post from "the" to "a."

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[jbolty]

the topic is flexible

[thinkxingu]

"They’re more likely than previous generations to attend college—which means they’re more likely to have student debt. That, naturally, leads to less discretionary income. “The difference between $15K and $26K of student debt is $130/month, which is equivalent to a monthly loan payment on a ~$8,000 bike,” the analysts wrote."

https://www.barrons.com/articles/mot...-it-1523632340

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[webmaster]

Whither the future of Motorcycle Week?

https://www.laconiadailysun.com/news...7ecb7922c.html

[tis]

I do think that over the years it's spread out more over the Lakes Region and beyond. I think it used to be centered more at Weirs and we didn't see as many over here as we do now.

[VitaBene]

Originally Posted by tis

I do think that over the years it's spread out more over the Lakes Region and beyond. I think it used to be centered more at Weirs and we didn't see as many over here as we do now.

I have written the same for years on this forum, there is no question that that is the case. We went to the Weirs once during bike week. I won't go to the "Road House" tent where you pay a cover charge for the pleasure of buying $6 beer!

There were thousands of bikes out and about- the Weirs is no longer the epicenter of NH bike week.

[Hillcountry]

Originally Posted by VitaBene

I have written the same for years on this forum, there is no question that that is the case. We went to the Weirs once during bike week. I won't go to the "Road House" tent where you pay a cover charge for the pleasure of buying $6 beer!

There were thousands of bikes out and about- the Weirs is no longer the epicenter of NH bike week.

But but...the beer girls!

[exlakesregioner]

It used to be a nice 3 day week-end, now it has been dragged out to 10 days.

[tis]

Originally Posted by exlakesregioner

It used to be a nice 3 day week-end, now it has been dragged out to 10 days.

I agree. Something changed when they went to Bike WEEK!!

[joey2665]

When did they change it from 3 days to 10 days?


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[TiltonBB]

It started in 1916. The number of participants grew each year as did the event’s duration. Over time, the rally blossomed into a week-long event, eventually suffering in attendance and popularity after getting wrapped up in the upheavals of the 60’s.

The rally reverted to a 3-day weekend and would remain so until 1991, when organizers revived the week-long event after seeing the success of Sturgis’ 50th Anniversary Rally in 1990.

In 1991 Laconia Motorcycle Week reclaimed the support of local businesses and the AMA as a week-long rally and the oldest gypsy tour in the country.

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

It started in 1916. The number of participants grew each year as did the event’s duration. Over time, the rally blossomed into a week-long event, eventually suffering in attendance and popularity after getting wrapped up in the upheavals of the 60’s.

The rally reverted to a 3-day weekend and would remain so until 1991, when organizers revived the week-long event after seeing the success of Sturgis’ 50th Anniversary Rally in 1990.

In 1991 Laconia Motorcycle Week reclaimed the support of local businesses and the AMA as a week-long rally and the oldest gypsy tour in the country.

If this was the 95th then how could it have started in 1916? That would make it 102.

[Top-Water]

Originally Posted by Biggd

If this was the 95th then how could it have started in 1916? That would make it 102.

There were a couple of years that it was canceled probably a few years were lost during WWII, and more notably the (1966 or 1967?) races were canceled due to the riots the previous years.

The races / original weekend event drastically changed after the riot in the mid 60's. I casually followed motor cycle racing back then when I was a teen and attended some of those races.

The states response to the riot was to bring in a huge and overwhelming law enforcement presence and completely eliminate off road side camping. No mater what you were driving back then if you stopped "anywhere" even for a "minute" on the side of the road (after the riot year) even if you were broken down they would tow you away to eliminate large motorcycle clubs gathering that usually fought with each other from forming that they knew they could not control. A lot of effort was to made to make sure anyone who came and planed to stay overnight or any length of time had to have a paid place to stay.


Some great old newspaper articles here at weirsbeach.com
http://www.weirsbeach.com/Largejpgs/weirsriot.html

A few weeks latter article from LIFE magazine. July 1965
https://books.google.com/books?id=T1...page&q&f=false

[Barney Bear]

Years ago, people would camp out on a variety of sites along Route 106. Residents would sit in their front yards to watch the bikers pass by. 🏍

[Top-Water]

Originally Posted by Barney Bear

Years ago, people would camp out on a variety of sites along Route 106. Residents would sit in their front yards to watch the bikers pass by. ��

Absolutely correct, but that's where a lot of the problems came from. People would just pull off to the side of the road, set up a tent and pull out a sleeping bag and did not care who's property it was.

Some people would rent there property, but with so many people they had no control over what was happening and no means to control things once the drinking began.

[JEEPONLY]

It is my feeling that there are many young people in this area who know that the trades offer a very viable life style. Unfortunately, many of these young people come from environments that neither know of, or understand, the supporting monetary avenues available to them to help them create a justifiable resume. Many of them think they'll simply start their own "hands-on" business- competing with each other until the law of Social Darwinism takes over.

Besides, the news tells us everyday that young people just don't want to stay in country living, and that we are on a course where we won't be able to sustain a viable work force.

Hey. Trades fees will go up! Stay!!!

[tis]

Originally Posted by JEEPONLY

It is my feeling that there are many young people in this area who know that the trades offer a very viable life style. Unfortunately, many of these young people come from environments that neither know of, or understand, the supporting monetary avenues available to them to help them create a justifiable resume. Many of them think they'll simply start their own "hands-on" business- competing with each other until the law of Social Darwinism takes over.

Besides, the news tells us everyday that young people just don't want to stay in country living, and that we are on a course where we won't be able to sustain a viable work force.

Hey. Trades fees will go up! Stay!!!

Are you saying they won't know how to run a business? Not sure what you mean by monetary avenues to create a resume?

[Mr. V]

Kids these days.

They don't want to own motorcycles.

They prefer living in urban environments.

They want white collar not blue collar jobs.

They don't enjoy casino gambling.

And to turn the world upside down, look how they date: back in the day you met someone in a bar, took them home, **** and then decided whether you want to see them again; now they meet online and get to know each other pretty well before actually meeting.

Oh, the horror!

[JEEPONLY]

Originally Posted by tis

Are you saying they won't know how to run a business? Not sure what you mean by monetary avenues to create a resume?

I didn't mean to imply that they won't know how to run a business. Some are born with innate abilities while others are not Of course, Social Darwinism dictates survival of the fittest. Young people who seek out scholarships, apprenticeships or any other programs that will enhance their knowledge, experience and ability will have an upper hand on their peers who, even with good intentions and work ethic, will mostly be weeded out if they think working summers as a kid qualifies them to compete.

With the forecasting of a drop in trades people coming up, I bet some established folks would be willing to hire the right person for lower pay while offering an education unaffordable to many, otherwise.

If they haven't gotten themselves to a point where they can afford to own a business, they don't need to know how to run one.

That's all I meant.

[Rusty]

Originally Posted by JEEPONLY

I didn't mean to imply that they won't know how to run a business. Some are born with innate abilities while others are not Of course, Social Darwinism dictates survival of the fittest. Young people who seek out scholarships, apprenticeships or any other programs that will enhance their knowledge, experience and ability will have an upper hand on their peers who, even with good intentions and work ethic, will mostly be weeded out if they think working summers as a kid qualifies them to compete.

With the forecasting of a drop in trades people coming up, I bet some established folks would be willing to hire the right person for lower pay while offering an education unaffordable to many, otherwise.

If they haven't gotten themselves to a point where they can afford to own a business, they don't need to know how to run one.

That's all I meant.

I know it's late but..HUH

[tis]

Originally Posted by JEEPONLY

I didn't mean to imply that they won't know how to run a business. Some are born with innate abilities while others are not Of course, Social Darwinism dictates survival of the fittest. Young people who seek out scholarships, apprenticeships or any other programs that will enhance their knowledge, experience and ability will have an upper hand on their peers who, even with good intentions and work ethic, will mostly be weeded out if they think working summers as a kid qualifies them to compete.

With the forecasting of a drop in trades people coming up, I bet some established folks would be willing to hire the right person for lower pay while offering an education unaffordable to many, otherwise.

If they haven't gotten themselves to a point where they can afford to own a business, they don't need to know how to run one.

That's all I meant.

I know lots of great craftsmen who don't either take the time or know how to run their business which is too bad. So I think I agree with you.

[Cobalt 25]

"Do you think if NH had a helmet law that it would hurt Bike week?"

Yes, I think it would have an impact. I own 3 motorcycles, have raced in at least 10 different states (including Loudon and Daytona) and have attended many Bike Weeks here.

My feeling is that being able to remove your helmet is a motivator for a certain segment of the MC population. I would NEVER consider riding a bike without a helmet, but recognize that there are some that think otherwise.

I suggest NH consider implementing a helmet law. Bike Week is important, but in the big picture helmet use is much more important.

[noreast]

I think that would be the nail in the coffin. I don't ride anymore but I'd be pissed if I HAD to wear a helmet.

[Greene's Basin Girl]

Originally Posted by Top-Water

There were a couple of years that it was canceled probably a few years were lost during WWII, and more notably the (1966 or 1967?) races were canceled due to the riots the previous years.

The races / original weekend event drastically changed after the riot in the mid 60's. I casually followed motor cycle racing back then when I was a teen and attended some of those races.

The states response to the riot was to bring in a huge and overwhelming law enforcement presence and completely eliminate off road side camping. No mater what you were driving back then if you stopped "anywhere" even for a "minute" on the side of the road (after the riot year) even if you were broken down they would tow you away to eliminate large motorcycle clubs gathering that usually fought with each other from forming that they knew they could not control. A lot of effort was to made to make sure anyone who came and planed to stay overnight or any length of time had to have a paid place to stay.


Some great old newspaper articles here at weirsbeach.com
http://www.weirsbeach.com/Largejpgs/weirsriot.html

A few weeks latter article from LIFE magazine. July 1965
https://books.google.com/books?id=T1...page&q&f=false

My sister was at the Weirs back then with my parents car. The bikers kept rocking it back and forth. Everything ended well though.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

It started in 1916. The number of participants grew each year as did the event’s duration. Over time, the rally blossomed into a week-long event, eventually suffering in attendance and popularity after getting wrapped up in the upheavals of the 60’s.



The rally reverted to a 3-day weekend and would remain so until 1991, when organizers revived the week-long event after seeing the success of Sturgis’ 50th Anniversary Rally in 1990.



In 1991 Laconia Motorcycle Week reclaimed the support of local businesses and the AMA as a week-long rally and the oldest gypsy tour in the country.

Great history. Thank you Tilton


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