Video of 78' Scamp

Diver1111 · 09-13-2010, 08:10 PM

Popular opinion including Jack Irwins' is that this is the Scamp. His father once owned it. Jack said it was 77 feet if I recall correctly, and I measured it by hand at 78'.

This scuttled wreck in Paugus is no secret exactly but it doesn't appear on any chart I've seen. Bizer shows 2 barges in this area. Prior side-scan images posted shows one barge nearby along with the Scamp, attached.

Stern is split into 2-3 pieces lengthwise. Large pipe about 4" in diameter coming off the bow, and quite long too.

Sits in about 16 feet of water-try snorkeling it as it can be seen from the surface.

Lat/Lon using map datum WGS84: 43 35.264N / 71 28.216W

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEp7knt7Jr0

Video by Lea Nichols. Photo complements of Jack Irwin.

secondcurve · 09-13-2010, 08:28 PM

Nice photo and an interesting dive video. Thanks. Any idea how the scamp wound up on the bottom of the lake? When did it sink?

SIKSUKR · 09-14-2010, 07:24 AM

I believe it was scuttled.

Grant · 09-14-2010, 08:26 AM

Thanks. Great videos.

And great seeing you Sunday. It was a veritable unscheduled "Forum Fest" of Winnipesaukee divers.

And, gee, whadya know...a nice school of rock bass under the wreck! (Speaking of which, I was not surprised to see that the rock bass population on the Lady of the Lake has grown exponentially since I last dove the wreck...)

Senter Cove Guy · 09-16-2010, 08:00 AM

My dive buddy and I dove The Scamp and the nearby barge yesterday. In the surrounding area, we found 3 danforth anchors, one in practically perfect shape because it was almost 100 % sunk in the mud/clay.

Later in the day we dove another barge significantly north of The Scamp. My dive buddy found a wallet that had been lost by a 19 year old water skier in 1974. No money but it contained a 1974 fishing license, a 1974 college ID and a driver's license. My dive buddy located the person in Meredith and called him. He is coming down to pickup the "goods".

The visability in Paugus Bay was only 10 - 12 feet yesterday.

P.S. Just out of curiosity, can anyone identify any of the men in the picture of The Scamp?

Fargo · 09-16-2010, 08:43 PM

I almost think that looks like young Jim Irwin on the bow. Great videos.

crowsnest · 09-17-2010, 04:44 AM

Diver 1111 I think your post are great, I plan on diving the scamp this weekend is it in a high boat traffic area?

Diver1111 · 09-17-2010, 08:52 AM

The Scamp is quite safe by any measure. There IS traffic along that shore but nothing like at so many other places; Flag up when you dive of course; You can likely anchor right on the wreck, descend the anchor line then ascend the anchor line thus maintaining maximum safety in this fashion.

The barge would an interesting thing to check out-go perhaps 45 feet south from the Scamp and you should hit it.

crowsnest · 09-17-2010, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diver1111

The Scamp is quite safe by any measure. There IS traffic along that shore but nothing like at so many other places; Flag up when you dive of course; You can likely anchor right on the wreck, descend the anchor line then ascend the anchor line thus maintaining maximum safety in this fashion.

The barge would an interesting thing to check out-go perhaps 45 feet south from the Scamp and you should hit it.

I hope Senter Cove Guy left us some treasure to find !

Pineedles · 09-17-2010, 06:26 PM

I think most of the divers online here touch very little if anything when they find whole wrecks. Bottle and relic collection is one thing, but these guys appear to be "leave it as is" when they find historic wrecks. Am I wrong?

crowsnest · 09-19-2010, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pineedles

I think most of the divers online here touch very little if anything when they find whole wrecks. Bottle and relic collection is one thing, but these guys appear to be "leave it as is" when they find historic wrecks. Am I wrong?

I would never disturb a wreck I find the history very interesting and being able to see it with my own eyes is amazing.

diver 1111 thank you for the info we set anchor 10' off the skamps port midship

We did manage to find 2 dive masks , 2 snorkals 1 Dive fin (green) and a swim ladder someone forgot to pull up not far from the wrecks.

Diver1111 · 08-18-2012, 09:29 PM

43 35.253n
71 28.204w

wgs84

SunsetPointWentworth · 01-19-2013, 06:23 PM

Diver1111, have you ever heard of the Flying Yankee? It was also a boat belonging to Jack Irwin. Do you know if it's still on the lake, or like the Scamp, on the bottom of the lake?

SharkBaitDiving · 01-25-2013, 01:03 PM

Thanks Hans! I didn't dive it last year but looking forward to it this year! I went to the Northshore Frogmen meeting last night and handed out my charter pamphlets. Several members said to say hi to you! Were you a former member I take it or still currently? I'm thinking of joining also as I have been a longtime member of the New England Aquarium dive club but just recently left after 20+ years. Hope we get a chance to meet this coming year! Jim

Diver1111 · 02-07-2013, 10:41 PM

I've been a Froggie for maybe 8 years or so. Great people.

As to the Flying Yankee I will contact Jack and ask.

SunsetPointWentworth · 02-18-2013, 08:13 PM

The Flying Yankee was owned by Jim Irwin. Not Jack. I'm guessing Jim was Jack's father?

SunsetPointWentworth · 04-09-2013, 06:18 PM

Diver, the reason I was wondering is because I saw a picture of it in a book. The book is Boats and Ports of Lake Winnipesaukee, Volume 2 By Bruce D. Heald. This link should have the picture http://books.google.com/books?id=G9F...yankee&f=false

Diver1111 · 04-09-2013, 10:13 PM

Sorry link loaded but page blank. Something about "too many page views"-don't understand that.

ApS · 04-10-2013, 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senter Cove Guy

The visability in Paugus Bay was only 10 - 12 feet yesterday.

It's been my experience—from a boat—that visibility will probably never be better than a day before "Ice-Out".

Twenty-five-feet—easy!

upthesaukee · 04-10-2013, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diver1111

Sorry link loaded but page blank. Something about "too many page views"-don't understand that.

Interesting link...

SunsetPointWentworth · 04-10-2013, 11:16 PM

It works. You must have scrolled down before it had time to download the photo's. It's page 59 that it should open to, but all the books photos up to page 59, have to open first. I have comcast and it takes me a full 30 seconds for it to pop up. At the bottom of the page it does tell you that message about having viewed too many pages or something.

09-13-2010, 08:10 PM	#1
Diver1111 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Exeter NH Posts: 596 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,027 Times in 224 Posts	Video of 78' Scamp Popular opinion including Jack Irwins' is that this is the Scamp. His father once owned it. Jack said it was 77 feet if I recall correctly, and I measured it by hand at 78'. This scuttled wreck in Paugus is no secret exactly but it doesn't appear on any chart I've seen. Bizer shows 2 barges in this area. Prior side-scan images posted shows one barge nearby along with the Scamp, attached. Stern is split into 2-3 pieces lengthwise. Large pipe about 4" in diameter coming off the bow, and quite long too. Sits in about 16 feet of water-try snorkeling it as it can be seen from the surface. Lat/Lon using map datum WGS84: 43 35.264N / 71 28.216W http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEp7knt7Jr0 Video by Lea Nichols. Photo complements of Jack Irwin. Attached Images

09-14-2010, 07:24 AM	#3
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	I believe it was scuttled. __________________ SIKSUKR

09-14-2010, 08:26 AM	#4
Grant Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pennsyltuckey, Tuftonboro, Moultonborough Posts: 1,485 Thanks: 337 Thanked 212 Times in 116 Posts	Thanks. Great videos. And great seeing you Sunday. It was a veritable unscheduled "Forum Fest" of Winnipesaukee divers. And, gee, whadya know...a nice school of rock bass under the wreck! (Speaking of which, I was not surprised to see that the rock bass population on the Lady of the Lake has grown exponentially since I last dove the wreck...) __________________ "When I die, please don't let my wife sell my dive gear for what I told her I paid for it." Last edited by Grant; 09-14-2010 at 08:43 AM. Reason: rock bass, baby...

09-16-2010, 08:00 AM	#5
Senter Cove Guy Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 593 Thanks: 283 Thanked 427 Times in 139 Posts	Treasure In Paugus Bay My dive buddy and I dove The Scamp and the nearby barge yesterday. In the surrounding area, we found 3 danforth anchors, one in practically perfect shape because it was almost 100 % sunk in the mud/clay. Later in the day we dove another barge significantly north of The Scamp. My dive buddy found a wallet that had been lost by a 19 year old water skier in 1974. No money but it contained a 1974 fishing license, a 1974 college ID and a driver's license. My dive buddy located the person in Meredith and called him. He is coming down to pickup the "goods". The visability in Paugus Bay was only 10 - 12 feet yesterday. P.S. Just out of curiosity, can anyone identify any of the men in the picture of The Scamp? __________________ Lake Winni - The only place I want to be during the summer. Last edited by Senter Cove Guy; 09-16-2010 at 08:03 AM. Reason: Add P.S.

09-16-2010, 08:43 PM	#6
Fargo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Lake Winni Posts: 214 Thanks: 36 Thanked 130 Times in 38 Posts	photo I almost think that looks like young Jim Irwin on the bow. Great videos.

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09-13-2010, 08:28 PM	#2
secondcurve Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,084 Thanks: 1,267 Thanked 557 Times in 286 Posts	Nice photo and an interesting dive video. Thanks. Any idea how the scamp wound up on the bottom of the lake? When did it sink?

09-17-2010, 04:44 AM	#7
crowsnest Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Whitman Ma / Weirs Beach Posts: 94 Thanks: 42 Thanked 25 Times in 19 Posts	78' Scamp Diver 1111 I think your post are great, I plan on diving the scamp this weekend is it in a high boat traffic area?

09-17-2010, 08:52 AM	#8
Diver1111 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Exeter NH Posts: 596 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,027 Times in 224 Posts	Scamp dive The Scamp is quite safe by any measure. There IS traffic along that shore but nothing like at so many other places; Flag up when you dive of course; You can likely anchor right on the wreck, descend the anchor line then ascend the anchor line thus maintaining maximum safety in this fashion. The barge would an interesting thing to check out-go perhaps 45 feet south from the Scamp and you should hit it.

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09-17-2010, 06:26 PM	#10
Pineedles Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Moultonborough & CT Posts: 2,535 Thanks: 1,058 Thanked 652 Times in 363 Posts	I think most of the divers online here touch very little if anything when they find whole wrecks. Bottle and relic collection is one thing, but these guys appear to be "leave it as is" when they find historic wrecks. Am I wrong?

08-18-2012, 09:29 PM	#12
Diver1111 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Exeter NH Posts: 596 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,027 Times in 224 Posts	Lat/Lon of barge next to Scamp 43 35.253n 71 28.204w wgs84

01-19-2013, 06:23 PM	#13
SunsetPointWentworth Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: claremont/wolfeboro Posts: 155 Thanks: 114 Thanked 51 Times in 26 Posts	The Flying Yankee Diver1111, have you ever heard of the Flying Yankee? It was also a boat belonging to Jack Irwin. Do you know if it's still on the lake, or like the Scamp, on the bottom of the lake? Last edited by SunsetPointWentworth; 01-19-2013 at 06:26 PM. Reason: spelling

01-25-2013, 01:03 PM	#14
SharkBaitDiving Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Malden, MA & Fay's Boat Yard Gilford, NH Posts: 58 Thanks: 121 Thanked 16 Times in 9 Posts	Scamp Thanks Hans! I didn't dive it last year but looking forward to it this year! I went to the Northshore Frogmen meeting last night and handed out my charter pamphlets. Several members said to say hi to you! Were you a former member I take it or still currently? I'm thinking of joining also as I have been a longtime member of the New England Aquarium dive club but just recently left after 20+ years. Hope we get a chance to meet this coming year! Jim

02-07-2013, 10:41 PM	#15
Diver1111 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Exeter NH Posts: 596 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,027 Times in 224 Posts	I've been a Froggie for maybe 8 years or so. Great people. As to the Flying Yankee I will contact Jack and ask.

02-18-2013, 08:13 PM	#16
SunsetPointWentworth Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: claremont/wolfeboro Posts: 155 Thanks: 114 Thanked 51 Times in 26 Posts	The Flying Yankee was owned by Jim Irwin. Not Jack. I'm guessing Jim was Jack's father?

04-09-2013, 06:18 PM	#17
SunsetPointWentworth Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: claremont/wolfeboro Posts: 155 Thanks: 114 Thanked 51 Times in 26 Posts	Diver, the reason I was wondering is because I saw a picture of it in a book. The book is Boats and Ports of Lake Winnipesaukee, Volume 2 By Bruce D. Heald. This link should have the picture http://books.google.com/books?id=G9F...yankee&f=false

04-09-2013, 10:13 PM	#18
Diver1111 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Exeter NH Posts: 596 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,027 Times in 224 Posts	Sorry link loaded but page blank. Something about "too many page views"-don't understand that.

04-10-2013, 11:16 PM	#21
SunsetPointWentworth Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: claremont/wolfeboro Posts: 155 Thanks: 114 Thanked 51 Times in 26 Posts	It works. You must have scrolled down before it had time to download the photo's. It's page 59 that it should open to, but all the books photos up to page 59, have to open first. I have comcast and it takes me a full 30 seconds for it to pop up. At the bottom of the page it does tell you that message about having viewed too many pages or something.

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