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Old 06-19-2022, 04:54 PM   #1
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Hi all, Iíve got 3 young boys, 2, 9 and 11.. the older 2 like to fish but they are sometimes telling me they are bored! This usually occurs when Iím trying to fish for salmon! So far this year we have been catching LOTS of 2.5 lb smallmouth. But they want something different. I have an 18í center console with downriggers. Iíve been on the lake for 5 years and caught only 1 salmon using an acme kastmaster. Iíve watched you tube videos, read countless articles on how to catch these fish but I cannot seem to find them! I know itís a big secret and nobody wants to give away their secret spots but Iím hoping someone can point me in the right direction as to where these fish are. Iím usually trolling a KVD crank bait, mepps aglia long, or just dropping down a mooselook spoon or kastmaster. I understand the depths these fish live at when at certain temps ectÖ Hoping someone can help me out here. Thanks in advance!
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Old 06-19-2022, 08:49 PM   #2
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I have two thoughts here as a father of two boys who are now men.

First, if you are catching plenty of good size smallmouth bass keep fishing for them. They are a lot more fun to catch.

Second, if you still want to fish for salmon, hire a guide and learn as much as you can during the trip. What you will likely find is that you will troll a couple lines out the back of the boat on down riggers and catch a few fish each night. What that essentially means is that you take turns catching them. If you think they are bored fishing for bass then this will take it to the next level.

Just my personal experience. Good luck either way. Itís still fun regardless of the kids being bored.
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Old 06-20-2022, 12:00 PM   #3
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Go to the tackle shack or Berry's Bait.

Buy 2 leadcore rod/reel combos that are set up and ready to fish. Right now the fish are probably down about 6 colors or so. A month from now they will be down around 8 colors or more.

Buy some trolling spoons such as a DB Smelt or a Top Gun.

Figure out how to make your boat troll between 1.8 and 2.2 miles per hour.

Troll around the islands in 40 - 80 feet of water along steep drop offs early in the morning or around sunset. Do S-turns from shallower to deeper water and vice versa along the drop offs.

Do some research on fishlakewinni.com

Read Smile of the Great Spirit book by Doc Lyon.

Possibly book a trip with one of the salmon fishing guides on Lake Winni.

Put all of this together and you will be catching salmon in no time. They are a blast to catch and there is a reason why guys fish for them.
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Old 06-20-2022, 02:32 PM   #4
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Second, if you still want to fish for salmon, hire a guide and learn as much as you can during the trip.
https://timmooreoutdoors.com/boatfishing/
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Old 07-08-2022, 10:29 AM   #5
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THANK YOU BURGERUNH! So this AM I went out with my lead core line with a spoon and trolled at 2mph around the islands along the drop offs doing s turns and within minutes I caught a salmon. I was fishing for a total of an hour and 20 minutes. Caught 3 salmon and a 19” trout and had 2 on the line that never ended up on the boat. Thanks for the advice!
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THANK YOU BURGERUNH! So this AM I went out with my lead core line with a spoon and trolled at 2mph around the islands along the drop offs doing s turns and within minutes I caught a salmon. I was fishing for a total of an hour and 20 minutes. Caught 3 salmon and a 19Ē trout and had 2 on the line that never ended up on the boat. Thanks for the advice!
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Old 07-09-2022, 08:49 AM   #7
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while my boys are now fully grown...back in the day one of the biggest challenges was addressing boredom. No matter how well you fish or how good the fishing is...its almost impossible to consistently put each boy on fishing. 2-3 fish an hour is a good rate but with 4 fisherman...thats over an hour between fish at the best of times. Since trolling is not an active activity like casting...its even tougher no kids. Solutions:

Rotate rather than assign rods. This way everyone gets a turn and nobody goes home with no fish caught where someone else caught 4.

Watch for boredom signs and be ready to pickup. Forcing kids to stay out makes them less likely to want to go again. Doesn't mean go home. Maybe grab an ice cream or pizza. Go for a swim. Go cast for some smallmouth.

Bring games. Games that fit well on a boat with some wind (cards don't do well) like Yahtzee or boggle etc.

Be 100% ready to drop lines BEFORE you leave the dock. Futzing with tackle for 1/2 hour before you are fully deploys starts things on a wrong foot.

Assign "duties" to each boy so they get involved.

Have the boy "on deck" choose one rod for which he can go through your tackle box and have you put on any bait. If he chooses a rubber frog...throw it out there! That rod likely won't catch any fish but it involves them in decisions...who knows maybe you catch a salmon on a rubber frog!

If you can't beat the boredom...go home before things get more intense.

Of course increasing your catch rate is awesome but it will be rare that your catch rate exceeds boredom rates for young boys. Do your best to increase catch by buying from and talking to local shots mentioned above and maybe even chartering a guide. Join facebook groups related to salmon fishing on Winni. Talk to other fisherman...many times you get luke warm responses to message board broadcasts for "put me on fish" but if you see someone report success on a board...direct message them with your situation and ask for help and promise discretion in sharing spots and methods. The FishLakeWinni.com website has grown very inactive but there are searchable archives in the message boards for over a decade that talk specifically to how to target Winni salmon.

Bottom line:
-Address Boredom
-Do everything you can to increase catch rate BEFORE leaving the dock
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