Sailboat Boating Certificate?

CEP · 07-16-2006, 05:46 PM

Hi:
I'm sure somewhere this question has been asked but I can't seem to locate it!
Maybe someone can direct me!
Do you need a Boating Cert. when sailing on Winni?
Everything I see here has hp but this sail boat is small and needs no motors.
Hope someone can answer this question.

Thanks

CEP

upthesaukee · 07-16-2006, 09:53 PM

Pursuant to RSA 270-D:10, I, no person born on or after the dates provided in Table 6100-1 shall operate a motorized vessel with any type of power motor in excess of 25 horsepower on the public waters of this state without first obtaining a certificate of boating safety education in accordance with these rules:

Here's the whole RSA:

http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rules/saf-c6100.html

NightWing · 07-16-2006, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CEP

Hi:
I'm sure somewhere this question has been asked but I can't seem to locate it!
Maybe someone can direct me!
Do you need a Boating Cert. when sailing on Winni?
Everything I see here has hp but this sail boat is small and needs no motors.
Hope someone can answer this question.

Thanks

CEP

No motor, or motor under 25hp...no certificate needed.

Airwaves · 07-16-2006, 10:52 PM

Of course if you have a decent sized (read that to mean big) sailboat with an inboard engine, then yep.

Or if you have a tender with a 30 hp outboard, then yep.

If you've got a sunfish and you will only ever have a sunfish, then you're fine

I am not familiar with how they rate diesel engines, do they do that in HP comparable to gasoline, and do the same rules apply? (a number of ocean going sailboats that could appear on Winni may have diesel powerplants)

NightWing · 07-16-2006, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Airwaves

Of course if you have a decent sized (read that to mean big) sailboat with an inboard engine, then yep.

Or if you have a tender with a 30 hp outboard, then yep.

If you've got a sunfish and you will only ever have a sunfish, then you're fine

I am not familiar with how they rate diesel engines, do they do that in HP comparable to gasoline, and do the same rules apply? (a number of ocean going sailboats that could appear on Winni may have diesel powerplants)

From post #2, "............motorized vessel with any type of power motor in excess of 25 horsepower".........

Horsepower is horsepower; gasoline, diesel, electric, it doesn't matter to the state.

Airwaves · 07-17-2006, 12:01 AM

Not being familiar with the difference between diesel and gasoline, beyond the smell, price and availability. I didn't and don't know if diesel engines are "different" when it comes to Horse Power.

Are there any diesel fueling stations on the lake?

So, that mean anyone who operates a sailboat that has an inboard engine has to have a certificate regardless.

Also, I thought electric (at least my electric motor) is thrust, not horsepower, but I'll double check to see if there is a horse there somewhere. :-)

NightWing · 07-17-2006, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Airwaves

Not being familiar with the difference between diesel and gasoline, beyond the smell, price and availability. I didn't and don't know if diesel engines are "different" when it comes to Horse Power.

So, that mean anyone who operates a sailboat that has an inboard engine has to have a certificate regardless.

Also, I thought electric (at least my electric motor) is thrust, not horsepower, but I'll double check to see if there is a horse there somewhere. :-)

It doesn't matter if it is inboard or outboard. It doesn't matter if it is gas or diesel. It matters if it is over 25 horsepower. Again horsepower is horsepower. Do a Google search on the definition or refer to old high school science books. 25 horsepower or under does not require a certificate. It is really simple and diesel engines are not "different" when it comes to horsepower. They achieve maximum power at a lower RPM and generally have tons of torque at a low RPM, but the standard for measured horsepower is the same.

As far as electric trolling motors go, they are usually rated by pounds of thrust. They are not very powerful.............probably well under even 1 or 2 horsepower. Now....................if you grab a diesel electric motor from an Amtrak locomotive and drop it in your Sunfish sailboat..................well, better get a cert.

Airwaves · 07-17-2006, 01:21 AM

Amtrak is exactly what I was thinking!

ALL ABOARD

Airwaves · 07-17-2006, 01:27 AM

BTW, Seriously, anyone know of any diesel stations on the lake?

JPC · 07-17-2006, 07:34 AM

Most of the sailboats with inboards at Fay's Boat Yard have diesel engines. there isn't a deisel pump at the gas docks but there is a large diesel stoarage tank by the shop that you can pump (manual crank) into a jerry can. Then again I have a 16hp engine and only use about 8 gal/yr. and my tank holds 16 gallons.

Bear Islander · 07-17-2006, 09:11 AM

The Y-Landing Marina behind Pine Island pumps diesel.

CEP · 07-17-2006, 09:15 AM

Thanks everyone for the help!

This sailboat is I think, 18 ft. no motor, however, I suggested that there should be some sort of Aux. power when out on Winni. So there might be a small motor under 25 hp placed on board for the day.

The boat is registered in Conn. You can use that registration for 30 days, no problem there and he has all kids of life jackets and safety stuff with him.
I think he will be good to go!

Thanks again for the help!

CEP

07-16-2006, 05:46 PM	#1
CEP Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Charlton City,MA Posts: 110 Thanks: 8 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Sailboat Boating Certificate? Hi: I'm sure somewhere this question has been asked but I can't seem to locate it! Maybe someone can direct me! Do you need a Boating Cert. when sailing on Winni? Everything I see here has hp but this sail boat is small and needs no motors. Hope someone can answer this question. Thanks CEP

07-17-2006, 07:34 AM	#10
JPC Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Milford, NH Posts: 159 Thanks: 42 Thanked 16 Times in 14 Posts	Diesel Fuel Station Most of the sailboats with inboards at Fay's Boat Yard have diesel engines. there isn't a deisel pump at the gas docks but there is a large diesel stoarage tank by the shop that you can pump (manual crank) into a jerry can. Then again I have a 16hp engine and only use about 8 gal/yr. and my tank holds 16 gallons.

07-17-2006, 09:15 AM	#12
CEP Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Charlton City,MA Posts: 110 Thanks: 8 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Thank You Thanks everyone for the help! This sailboat is I think, 18 ft. no motor, however, I suggested that there should be some sort of Aux. power when out on Winni. So there might be a small motor under 25 hp placed on board for the day. The boat is registered in Conn. You can use that registration for 30 days, no problem there and he has all kids of life jackets and safety stuff with him. I think he will be good to go! Thanks again for the help! CEP

07-16-2006, 09:53 PM	#2
upthesaukee Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Alton Bay Posts: 5,547 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 2,398 Thanked 1,918 Times in 1,061 Posts	Here's the RSA Pursuant to RSA 270-D:10, I, no person born on or after the dates provided in Table 6100-1 shall operate a motorized vessel with any type of power motor in excess of 25 horsepower on the public waters of this state without first obtaining a certificate of boating safety education in accordance with these rules: Here's the whole RSA: http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rules/saf-c6100.html __________________ I Live Here... I am always UPTHESAUKEE !!!!

07-16-2006, 10:52 PM	#4
Airwaves Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: I'm right here! Posts: 1,153 Thanks: 9 Thanked 102 Times in 37 Posts	Of course if you have a decent sized (read that to mean big) sailboat with an inboard engine, then yep. Or if you have a tender with a 30 hp outboard, then yep. If you've got a sunfish and you will only ever have a sunfish, then you're fine I am not familiar with how they rate diesel engines, do they do that in HP comparable to gasoline, and do the same rules apply? (a number of ocean going sailboats that could appear on Winni may have diesel powerplants)

07-17-2006, 12:01 AM	#6
Airwaves Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: I'm right here! Posts: 1,153 Thanks: 9 Thanked 102 Times in 37 Posts	Not being familiar with the difference between diesel and gasoline, beyond the smell, price and availability. I didn't and don't know if diesel engines are "different" when it comes to Horse Power. Are there any diesel fueling stations on the lake? So, that mean anyone who operates a sailboat that has an inboard engine has to have a certificate regardless. Also, I thought electric (at least my electric motor) is thrust, not horsepower, but I'll double check to see if there is a horse there somewhere. :-)

07-17-2006, 01:21 AM	#8
Airwaves Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: I'm right here! Posts: 1,153 Thanks: 9 Thanked 102 Times in 37 Posts	Amtrak is exactly what I was thinking! ALL ABOARD

07-17-2006, 01:27 AM	#9
Airwaves Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: I'm right here! Posts: 1,153 Thanks: 9 Thanked 102 Times in 37 Posts	BTW, Seriously, anyone know of any diesel stations on the lake?

07-17-2006, 09:11 AM	#11
Bear Islander Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bear Island Posts: 1,757 Thanks: 31 Thanked 429 Times in 203 Posts	The Y-Landing Marina behind Pine Island pumps diesel.