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Old 04-15-2013, 02:14 PM   #1
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Default Two bombs at the finish line of the Boston Marathon

Horrible event.. it's on all of the Networks.. Channel 4 Boston has live coverage.. actually pulled some of the live video as '"too gruesome"
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So far there has also been at least one controlled detonation of another suspected device.
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Boston Police confirm 2 dead, 22 seriously injured so far.
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The fire at The JFK Library seems too coincidental.
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The fire at The JFK Library seems too coincidental.
Confirmed unrelated mechanical fire.
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Yeah they just showed a guy that looks like his leg was blown off then the camera faded to a dark blue......Unreal. Yet another sad day in America.
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Confirmed unrelated mechanical fire.
I saw the same about the JFK, but Faux News Boston is still reporting it as a bomb at JFK as of 5 minuets ago.
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I saw the same about the JFK, but Faux News Boston is still reporting it as a bomb at JFK as of 5 minuets ago.
I'm hearing from people on the ground they are looking at a possible incendiary device at JFK. I hope it was just mechanical. However, if it was something planted, the security cams at JFK should tell a story.
They are also looking for a yellow PENSKE box truck that tried to enter the crime scene with "medical supplies" and was turned away.
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I saw the same about the JFK, but Faux News Boston is still reporting it as a bomb at JFK as of 5 minuets ago.
BPD Commish just stated they are treating the blast at JFK library as third incident.
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How very sad that things in our country have deteriorated like this.
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This is very scary. the JFK incident has been discounted as unrelated. It appears they are finding other devices.

Tune into Boston AM WRKO 680 for continuing coverage. You can find it on the internet and tune in radio on mobile devices.

These reports can change with new information.
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How very sad that things in our country have deteriorated like this.

History repeats and we allow, if not encourage, it. I wonder if stronger military and intelligence activity might have sniffed this one out.

>>>>>> Let us remember that `if we suffer tamely a lawless attack upon our liberty, we encourage it, and involve others in our doom.’ It is a very serious consideration…that millions yet unborn may be the miserable sharers of the event.” – Samuel Adams, speech in Boston, 1771
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History repeats and we allow, if not encourage, it.
I'm curious as to how you think we might be encouraging this type of thing. Unless we want to give up our essential liberties and live in a police state, there's always going to be a risk that some a**hole is going to do something crazy. And unless you're pretty high up in state or local law enforcement or employed by a three letter federal agency, you have no idea what kind of intelligence gathering, threat assessment and counter-terrorism operations are going on to keep us safe.
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My company does the sound, electric power and timing for the Boston Marathon. I have been on the race committee since 1983. The clocks across the finish line are ours. If you watch the videos on TV you see a scissors lift right next to the blast. That is where our speakers are and where I was standing. Thankfully all my employees are ok. I have a ruptured ear drum but all in all that is no big deal. I saw some terrible things in the minutes after the blast.
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My company does the sound, electric power and timing for the Boston Marathon. I have been on the race committee since 1983. The clocks across the finish line are ours. If you watch the videos on TV you see a scissors lift right next to the blast. That is where our speakers are and where I was standing. Thankfully all my employees are ok. I have a ruptured ear drum but all in all that is no big deal. I saw some terrible things in the minutes after the blast.
Wow, I'm glad you and your employees are okay!
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My company does the sound, electric power and timing for the Boston Marathon. I have been on the race committee since 1983. The clocks across the finish line are ours. If you watch the videos on TV you see a scissors lift right next to the blast. That is where our speakers are and where I was standing. Thankfully all my employees are ok. I have a ruptured ear drum but all in all that is no big deal. I saw some terrible things in the minutes after the blast.

I'm glad to hear you are ok.

My step-son usually volunteers at the race via his fraternity. This year he choose to see the Sox game and just entered the T just before the explosions hit.

He lost his cell and we had a few tense hours trying to locate him. The campus police finally tracked him down and he called us.
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My company does the sound, electric power and timing for the Boston Marathon. I have been on the race committee since 1983. The clocks across the finish line are ours. If you watch the videos on TV you see a scissors lift right next to the blast. That is where our speakers are and where I was standing. Thankfully all my employees are ok. I have a ruptured ear drum but all in all that is no big deal. I saw some terrible things in the minutes after the blast.
Bear Islander;

Glad you and your employees are O.K. Hope your ears heal quickly and your eyes and mind forget the horrible scenes you witnessed.

Such a senseless tragedy...

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Now that's too close, BI! Glad you are ok!
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My company does the sound, electric power and timing for the Boston Marathon. I have been on the race committee since 1983. The clocks across the finish line are ours. If you watch the videos on TV you see a scissors lift right next to the blast. That is where our speakers are and where I was standing. Thankfully all my employees are ok. I have a ruptured ear drum but all in all that is no big deal. I saw some terrible things in the minutes after the blast.
Glad you and all of your employees are OK. It must have been horrible scene to see.
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My company does the sound, electric power and timing for the Boston Marathon. I have been on the race committee since 1983. The clocks across the finish line are ours. If you watch the videos on TV you see a scissors lift right next to the blast. That is where our speakers are and where I was standing. Thankfully all my employees are ok. I have a ruptured ear drum but all in all that is no big deal. I saw some terrible things in the minutes after the blast.

BI - I am glad that you are OK as well as your employees. I hope that your ruptured ear drum heals quickly.

My prayers go out for the 3 that lost their lives and to the many injured and their families.
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I'm curious as to how you think we might be encouraging this type of thing. Unless we want to give up our essential liberties and live in a police state, there's always going to be a risk that some a**hole is going to do something crazy. And unless you're pretty high up in state or local law enforcement or employed by a three letter federal agency, you have no idea what kind of intelligence gathering, threat assessment and counter-terrorism operations are going on to keep us safe.
Well when those three lettered agencies, department of homeland security and even the so called president of the USA all out refuse to call terrorism by name, and refuse to recognize where it's source is that is a fundamental problem don't you think? Doesn't take a police state to do common sense surveillance and yes profiling of those who commonly would carry out such acts.

What happened yesterday regardless of who perpetrated it was terrorism, I find it fascinating that the president's comments later on that day omitted the obvious.

While I have no desire to may political hay out of such a despicable act - the fact it happened doesn't surprise or shock me in the least. Why? Because until the political correctness gets out of the way of identifying what causes this behavior to occur history is destined to repeat itself.

My heartfelt condolences to the families of those that lost loved ones, and to those that were injured my prayers for their families who will be forever changed as a result of this.

Finally BI, thankfully you were not hurt bad.
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Well when those three lettered agencies, department of homeland security and even the so called president of the USA all out refuse to call terrorism by name, and refuse to recognize where it's source is that is a fundamental problem don't you think? Doesn't take a police state to do common sense surveillance and yes profiling of those who commonly would carry out such acts.
You're engaging in cognitive dissonance. There are many sources of terrorism, from right wing extremists and left wing radicals right here in our own country, to the more familiar jihadists that many people seem to be singularly focused on.

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Perhaps he "omitted the obvious" because... it's obvious.

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While I have no desire to may political hay out of such a despicable act - the fact it happened doesn't surprise or shock me in the least. Why? Because until the political correctness gets out of the way of identifying what causes this behavior to occur history is destined to repeat itself.
And yet, here you are making political hay out of this despicable act.

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Finally BI, thankfully you were not hurt bad.
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You're engaging in cognitive dissonance. There are many sources of terrorism, from right wing extremists and left wing radicals right here in our own country, to the more familiar jihadists that many people seem to be singularly focused on.



Perhaps he "omitted the obvious" because... it's obvious.



And yet, here you are making political hay out of this despicable act.



Agreed.
I am not engaging in cognitive dissonance, this is so crystal clear no need to introduce a bunch of psycho babble terms to muddy the waters. I did not identify any particular potential responsible party for this for a reason, cause it could be any one of the afore mentioned. However just for argument's sake let's say that based on what happened and how it happened it's probably likely that two of the three could be considered less likely. Right and left wing loons may have their issues, but they typically do not target innocent people in an attempt to injure or kill on a mass scale.

I do believe that the President's comments were very carefully worded as to not offend anyone (as usual) and his continued refusal to call it what it is to me is telling. Being able to vocalize the cause is step one. Apparently we aren't there yet, and in today's world that's a scary thought.

I am not making political hay out of this, just stating observations. I have not made any disparaging comments in regards to any politician with the exception of the president's comments which is hardly political and my comment was simply an observation.
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To put a human face (or forum name) on this, I'm just extremely grateful that my husband is safe and OK. That's all......
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I do believe that the President's comments were very carefully worded as to not offend anyone (as usual) and his continued refusal to call it what it is to me is telling. Being able to vocalize the cause is step one. Apparently we aren't there yet, and in today's world that's a scary thought.
What would you have wanted him to say? It's obvious that this was an act of terror, regardless of who is responsible. That should go without saying. Who would you have wanted the president to offend in making his comments? Other than a blanket condemnation of whoever is responsible (which was done), there's really no more that can responsibly be said at this time, because right now we have no idea who did this.

As far as "vocalizing the cause," what cause are you talking about? We have no idea right now what motivated the coward(s) responsible.
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What would you have wanted him to say? It's obvious that this was an act of terror, regardless of who is responsible. That should go without saying. Who would you have wanted the president to offend in making his comments? Other than a blanket condemnation of whoever is responsible (which was done), there's really no more that can responsibly be said at this time, because right now we have no idea who did this.

As far as "vocalizing the cause," what cause are you talking about? We have no idea right now what motivated the coward(s) responsible.
So if it was so obvious why not just call it like it is, or do you play the PC card till it becomes apparent that polling data shows that wasn't a popular thing to omit. What would I have wanted him to say, well what would Harry S Truman say if he were in the white house?

Carry the battle to them. Don't let them bring it to you. Put them on the defensive and don't ever apologize for anything.
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Yes!! But first, you have to know who "them" is. And you better be 100% sure.

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Terrorism is the result, the cause has yet to be determined.

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Right and left wing loons may have their issues, but they typically do not target innocent people in an attempt to injure or kill on a mass scale.
See: McVeigh, Timothy and Rudolph, Eric.
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1 Dead, 1 Captured
Hopefully this is the end of a horrific week for Boston.
Thanks to all the LEO's for keeping us safe.
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Hopefully this is the end of a horrific week for Boston.
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• Anyone listen to the local police/FBI/EMT takedown of the 2nd suspect on an on-line scanner?

(The only scanner I'm aware of that has commercials!)


• One interesting part near the end was the result of an "open mike".



Miranda has been given to the suspect perp.
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• Anyone listen to the local police/FBI/EMT takedown of the 2nd suspect on an on-line scanner?

(The only scanner I'm aware of that has commercials!)


• One interesting part near the end was the result of an "open mike".



Miranda has been given to the suspect perp.
I was listening to Mass State Police Special Ops all day on my radio. It was great hearing everything unfold as it happened. I was amazed at how many false reports were broadcast on the national news outlets. I'm proud of the way the law enforcement, EMS and my brother boston firefighters handled themselves.

Open mics are a common occurrence and not a surprise with hundreds of people on portable radios.
The suspect was NOT given his Miranda rights. He will, instead, be held under the Public Safety Exemption.
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The suspect was NOT given his Miranda rights. He will, instead, be held under the Public Safety Exemption.
'Hadn't heard of a "Public Safety Exemption", although the withholding of Miranda is a common practice—at first.

Many news sources have "walked-back" their stories—NBC included...

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'Hadn't heard of a "Public Safety Exemption", although the withholding of Miranda is a common practice—at first.

Many news sources have "walked-back" their stories—NBC included...

So true, many news outlets retracted their stories when the facts actually came out.
The special interrogation team for high valued targets will have this turd for a good 48 hours without Miranda. Hopefully he is "encouraged" if he is "unable" to remember things.
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Everyone is Happy with the results in Boston. Me to.

Is anyone concerned with the Massive Power brought to bear by the FEDS to capture ONE 19 year old... AND Shut Down the economy of one of the largest cities in America..??? I'M Very Concerned. NB
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Horrible event.. it's on all of the Networks.. Channel 4 Boston has live coverage.. actually pulled some of the live video as '"too gruesome"
Another "GUTLESS" act by individual(s) who think this the method for solving world social issues. When/if we find these individuals, we ought to have a public hanging to show these Terrorists that we will not tolerate these acts.

Our deepest thoughts and prayers for those who lost their lives, that were injured and their families and friends.
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I'm curious as to how you think we might be encouraging this type of thing. Unless we want to give up our essential liberties and live in a police state, there's always going to be a risk that some a**hole is going to do something crazy. And unless you're pretty high up in state or local law enforcement or employed by a three letter federal agency, you have no idea what kind of intelligence gathering, threat assessment and counter-terrorism operations are going on to keep us safe.
Suffice to say we have made significant changes to our policy on intelligence gathering
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Changes that possibly "encouraged" what happened in Boston today? Like what?
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It was a tragedy lets leave it at that and not turn this thread about it into a pissing contest.
I think we can all agree that our current government has issues and needs fixing, this thread isn't about that, but what happened at the marathon.
TMI from past experience I have learned the best way to stop it is to ignore the comments and move on.
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Brothers from Wakefield, Mass., were victims. Each one of them lost a leg. May have been one of them, you saw..........
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awful, just awful. a disgusting act of senseless violence on innocent people. my thoughts and prayers are with the folks in bean town today.
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Brothers from Wakefield, Mass., were victims. Each one of them lost a leg. May have been one of them, you saw..........
I'm so sorry - I saw some of the pictures last night and wish I hadn't. This type of act will change many peoples lives and I hope for the best.
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I'm so sorry - I saw some of the pictures last night and wish I hadn't. This type of act will change many peoples lives and I hope for the best.
Is that for a month the media will run the same news over and over again making sure none of us forget it. I've already talked to a couple of others this morning that say enough is enough, unless there is new information why make those who knew someone who was injured of worse relive this by running the same pictures and video across the TV screen.
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For those who can't take anymore....shut off the TV. But we should all be thankful we live in a country where information is forthcoming.
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For those who can't take anymore....shut off the TV. But we should all be thankful we live in a country where information is forthcoming.
Ya, but the media are vultures. Did you happen to catch some of the questions on Fox. Oh and what about the guy who lost his son while his wife and daughter are both in the hospital? Ya the road had to be taped off to prevent the vultures from invading his privacy. It is pathetic what lengths the media will go to get a story in this day. In many cases what they report is found to be unfounded.
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I live in one of the towns that was in lockdown yesterday. It was frightening. Fortunately, the second suspect has been caught. The law enforcement officers from Boston, Watertown, FBI etc. did an unbelievable job and we can't thank them enough. On Thursday there was a very moving Interfaith Prayer Service at the Cathedral of the Holy Cross. Ministers from several faiths participated and spoke. We continue to pray for the deceased and the many who will spend a lifetime healing from their wounds.
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