Whose is bigger???

JonLevis · 06-02-2009, 11:22 AM

I recently became the new owner of the Manitou...a 51' Bluewater Coastal Cruiser. All my friends keep asking why and my only response (as a guy should have) is that "it is bigger!".

I know there has to be bigger on the Lake, does anyone know what there is for bigger private vessels?

GO SOX!!!!

VtSteve · 06-02-2009, 11:36 AM

I would think you're in the top three

An acquaintance of mine has a 2001 Azimut 46 tied up at the end of my docks. Nice diggs. Just let people know when you're really cruising out there, so they can be prepared for the wake

Seriously, congrats on a great boat.

JonLevis · 06-02-2009, 11:40 AM

I am anxious about going from 31' with a 12' beam to 51' with a 14.5' beam...using the same slip that I thought was tight before!

In my younger days I remember chasing the Manitou around with my jetski to ride the wake...now that I am older, i think I will appreciate the dryer, smoother ride!

ishoot308 · 06-02-2009, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonLevis

I recently became the new owner of the Manitou...a 51' Bluewater Coastal Cruiser. All my friends keep asking why and my only response (as a guy should have) is that "it is bigger!".

I know there has to be bigger on the Lake, does anyone know what there is for bigger private vessels?

GO SOX!!!!

Congratulations on your purchase!! Sure is a beatiful boat!

Enjoy!

Dan

jrc · 06-02-2009, 11:45 AM

Ok let start a list:

230' Mount Washington
74' Sophie C.
68' Doris E.
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51' Manitou
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klpjr77 · 06-02-2009, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonLevis

I recently became the new owner of the Manitou...a 51' Bluewater Coastal Cruiser. All my friends keep asking why and my only response (as a guy should have) is that "it is bigger!".

I know there has to be bigger on the Lake, does anyone know what there is for bigger private vessels?

GO SOX!!!!

JonLevis, are you docked out of Fays? I yard park my boat there, and when I was putting my boat in for the first time 2 weeks ago, I believe your boat was there. Cool boat!

KLP

JonLevis · 06-02-2009, 12:41 PM

I am at Fay's...stop by, I will give you a tour. I am around usually every weekend. If the door is open, I am home!

livefreeordie · 06-02-2009, 02:13 PM

Does Mark B still have that big carver? I know its was over 50'. I know it used to sit at silver sands by the gas dock....

fatlazyless · 06-02-2009, 02:20 PM

How big is the Manitou's gasoline, or diesel tank? My boat has a six gallon gas tank!

No, Mark got rid of both the big Carver & the famous Summa Humma 49' Fountain and got himself a water tricycle. It has three very big wheels and it gets peddled across the water, built by Tuffy. You know, I miss that purple & yellow, checkered 49'er....it was like something you'd see in an Arnold 'terminator' movie.

Where-o-where is the Summa-Humma? Where did it go.....Miami?

webmaster · 06-02-2009, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by livefreeordie

Does Mark B still have that big carver? I know its was over 50'. I know it used to sit at silver sands by the gas dock....

From this thread in 2000:

JonLevis · 06-02-2009, 03:48 PM

I have 300-gallons of capacity...feeding two 350's, so I can make it from Fay's to Alton Bay for about $1200! Maybe I will get a water trike too!

OCDACTIVE · 06-02-2009, 07:50 PM

Jon, Let me ask the most important question............... Can you dock her at the Naswa?

VtSteve · 06-02-2009, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OCDACTIVE

Jon, Let me ask the most important question............... Can you dock her at the Naswa?

Depends on the cash available I would imagine

Carver's parent company, Genmar Holdings, filed for Chapter 11 today. It looks like they'll do OK, hopefully. That company owns Four Winns, Larson, Glastron, Sea Swirl and many others like Ranger and Carver.

WeirsBeachBoater · 06-03-2009, 06:54 AM

Jon,

Congrats on your purchase. I hope you restore the Manitou to her former glory. I had the opportunity to skipper the Manitou a couple of times in the past, once bringing it to Braun Bay. It sure gets a lot of looks and comments. I was sad to see her left to fall into disrepair, glad to see someone picked her up and is going to keep her on the lake.

TiltonBB · 06-03-2009, 07:01 AM

Marc sold the 53 foot Carver about 4 years ago. It is still on the lake with the new owner. It was winter stored at Irwin's in Lakeport.

JonLevis · 06-03-2009, 12:06 PM

The rumor was that she was to be sold and moved to salt water somewhere...knowing her presense on the Lake, I couldn't let that happen! It will be fun restoring her to glory...I have some neglected gel coat to deal with. Anyone want to have a waxing party?

Has anyone had good luck with any of the seemingly endless choices of restorer wax? I just picked up the 3M Compound/Wax at the urging of the guys at West Marine...now I just need to practice my "wax on, wax off" moves!

GO SOX!!!

fatlazyless · 06-03-2009, 12:40 PM

Suggest you talk to the guy at Diamond Shine about how to restore fiberglass shines. He is next to Tom's Outboard in Gilford, up behind Sawyers ice cream.

Dave R · 06-03-2009, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonLevis

I have 300-gallons of capacity...feeding two 350's, so I can make it from Fay's to Alton Bay for about $1200! Maybe I will get a water trike too!

I thought it had twin 454s??? Anyway, congrats!

Keep it below 9.28 knots (max hull speed assuming 48 feet at the waterline) and it'll sip gas.

SAUGUS BOATER · 06-04-2009, 11:50 AM

Jon,

is this the same boat that used to belong to Herb Oliver from Oliver Lodge in Meredith ? That was a cool boat !

Rattlesnake Gal · 06-04-2009, 01:02 PM

We would love to see pictures now and while you are restoring your new baby!

Congratulations!

EZ-Pass · 06-04-2009, 03:06 PM

Question since the subject came up. I was told that one should never use compound on gel coat. Right or Wrong???

fatlazyless · 06-04-2009, 03:24 PM

You know what I use on old sun-faded, yuchted out fiberglass.....I use paint..on a couple small 25 year old sailboats. You can always sand-clean-prime-paint cruddy old fiberglass. Fay's Boat Yard has all the very scientific and very expensive, two-part boat paints like Pettit but I just use Rustoleum or Ben Moore oil paint and it lasts a couple seasons stored out of the water. Applied with a three inch roller and small brush....what the heck...

Just Sold · 06-04-2009, 08:14 PM

RG - This is from the Fay's web site. Bluewater Yachts Coastal Cruiser 51'

Just Sold · 06-05-2009, 04:59 AM

JonLevis,

Is this your old boat that is for sale at Fay's? http://www.faysboatyard.com/used_boats.html

JonLevis · 06-05-2009, 06:18 AM

There they are...where I was and where I am! I have my work cut out for me, but the Manitou is in pretty good shape...she just needs to be loved again (and buffed, and have new carpet, and new mattresses, and new cushions on the top deck, and on and on).

The other boat is priced for a quick sale if anyone is in the market...see my ad on the for sale site!

VtSteve · 06-05-2009, 09:06 AM

YIKES! What a market. I was browsing the Fays site, and they had a 2007 Chap 275 priced almost $20k more than what my dealer just sold a brand new 2008 holdover for. Albeit, the one here had no trailer. But still, one year newer and brand new.

Misty Blue · 06-05-2009, 09:48 AM

Awsome news Jon!

Now, stupid me, what does "Manitou" mean?

By the way, I'll trade you a day of elbow grease with a buffer for a trick at the helm!

Misty Blue

klpjr77 · 06-05-2009, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonLevis

I am at Fay's...stop by, I will give you a tour. I am around usually every weekend. If the door is open, I am home!

will do, I'm heading up sat. morning, I'll have to stop by.

KLP

klpjr77 · 06-05-2009, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

How big is the Manitou's gasoline, or diesel tank? My boat has a six gallon gas tank!

No, Mark got rid of both the big Carver & the famous Summa Humma 49' Fountain and got himself a water tricycle. It has three very big wheels and it gets peddled across the water, built by Tuffy. You know, I miss that purple & yellow, checkered 49'er....it was like something you'd see in an Arnold 'terminator' movie.

Where-o-where is the Summa-Humma? Where did it go.....Miami?

I saw the Summa Humma for sale at a used car dealership on the Lowell/Chelmsford Ma line, 2 summers ago, who knows where it went.

JonLevis · 06-05-2009, 02:26 PM

There are two meanings to her name...

Manitou was the 62-foot yawl commissioned by JFK as a floating White House.

Manitou also means "Spirit of the Water" to a group of Native Americans...forgive my ignorance, not sure which group.

We were going to re-name her, but after learning about the historical and cultural meaning of her name, I decided that she stays the Manitou

LIforrelaxin · 06-05-2009, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klpjr77

I saw the Summa Humma for sale at a used car dealership on the Lowell/Chelmsford Ma line, 2 summers ago, who knows where it went.

Well a quick google search and Summa Humma is found. She is according to the add located in Coventry RI and for sale,

Anyone have 160,000$ the can bring her back and not just flaunt the speed limmit but double it....

http://www.usedboats.com/boat-ad/display/ad_id/1849224

4Fun · 06-05-2009, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klpjr77

I saw the Summa Humma for sale at a used car dealership on the Lowell/Chelmsford Ma line, 2 summers ago, who knows where it went.

If you are talking about "High Line" motors on drum hill that's not the Summa Humma. I think that's the owners boat. I saw that boat last night and it a different Fountain.

tis · 06-05-2009, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonLevis

There are two meanings to her name...

Manitou was the 62-foot yawl commissioned by JFK as a floating White House.

Manitou also means "Spirit of the Water" to a group of Native Americans...forgive my ignorance, not sure which group.

We were going to re-name her, but after learning about the historical and cultural meaning of her name, I decided that she stays the Manitou

And besides, isn't it supposed to be bad luck to change the name of a boat?

partsman · 06-05-2009, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonLevis

In my younger days I remember chasing the Manitou around with my jetski to ride the wake...now that I am older, i think I will appreciate the dryer, smoother ride!

Congrats on your new condo.

Please remember to ease her down in tight quarters (eagle island] [motoring into glendale), we little boat people still have to 'ride the wake'

fatlazyless · 06-05-2009, 07:09 PM

One time about eight years ago I tried to assert my assumed right of way with the Manitou, out by buoy 3, while sailing a 12' Hobie Holder. The Manitou had a lot of people on board, and the skipper did not let me have my assumed course and I had to change course. It looked like it was moving close to its top speed, too, headed for Meredith.

I was think'n, this is a sailboat, you are a motorboat, therefore I have the right of way. As it continued on its course, it got closer, and I quickly started to rethink my situation. This actually happened on two different occasions.

So, where's the Marine Patrol when you really need them?

VtSteve · 06-05-2009, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

One time about eight years ago I tried to assert my assumed right of way with the Manitou, out by buoy 3, while sailing a 12' Hobie Holder. The Manitou had a lot of people on board, and the skipper did not let me have my assumed course and I had to change course. It looked like it was moving close to its top speed, too, headed for Meredith.

I was think'n, this is a sailboat, you are a motorboat, therefore I have the right of way. As it continued on its course, it got closer, and I quickly started to rethink my situation. This actually happened on two different occasions.

So, where's the Marine Patrol when you really need them?

Many of us asked the same question last year. Many, many times. Perhaps you could consult APS and he'd tell you that you were in no danger, since the velocity of the boat wake was not very high.

BTW, was riding the wake thrilling?

06-02-2009, 11:22 AM	#1
JonLevis Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Fay's Boatyard & Canton, MA Posts: 79 Thanks: 18 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Whose is bigger??? I recently became the new owner of the Manitou...a 51' Bluewater Coastal Cruiser. All my friends keep asking why and my only response (as a guy should have) is that "it is bigger!". I know there has to be bigger on the Lake, does anyone know what there is for bigger private vessels? GO SOX!!!!

06-02-2009, 02:20 PM	#9
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,525 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 295 Thanked 957 Times in 698 Posts	How big is the Manitou's gasoline, or diesel tank? My boat has a six gallon gas tank! No, Mark got rid of both the big Carver & the famous Summa Humma 49' Fountain and got himself a water tricycle. It has three very big wheels and it gets peddled across the water, built by Tuffy. You know, I miss that purple & yellow, checkered 49'er....it was like something you'd see in an Arnold 'terminator' movie. Where-o-where is the Summa-Humma? Where did it go.....Miami? __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake! Last edited by fatlazyless; 06-02-2009 at 05:54 PM.

06-02-2009, 07:50 PM	#12
OCDACTIVE Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Fort Myers FL / Moultonboro Posts: 1,045 Thanks: 444 Thanked 574 Times in 178 Posts	Jon, Let me ask the most important question............... Can you dock her at the Naswa? __________________ Have you had your Vessel Inspected Yet?

06-03-2009, 07:01 AM	#15
TiltonBB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gilford, NH and Florida Posts: 2,895 Thanks: 643 Thanked 2,153 Times in 900 Posts	Still here Marc sold the 53 foot Carver about 4 years ago. It is still on the lake with the new owner. It was winter stored at Irwin's in Lakeport.

06-03-2009, 12:40 PM	#17
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,525 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 295 Thanked 957 Times in 698 Posts	Suggest you talk to the guy at Diamond Shine about how to restore fiberglass shines. He is next to Tom's Outboard in Gilford, up behind Sawyers ice cream. __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake!

06-02-2009, 11:36 AM	#2
VtSteve Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,320 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 230 Thanked 361 Times in 169 Posts	I would think you're in the top three An acquaintance of mine has a 2001 Azimut 46 tied up at the end of my docks. Nice diggs. Just let people know when you're really cruising out there, so they can be prepared for the wake Seriously, congrats on a great boat.

06-02-2009, 11:40 AM	#3
JonLevis Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Fay's Boatyard & Canton, MA Posts: 79 Thanks: 18 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	I am anxious about going from 31' with a 12' beam to 51' with a 14.5' beam...using the same slip that I thought was tight before! In my younger days I remember chasing the Manitou around with my jetski to ride the wake...now that I am older, i think I will appreciate the dryer, smoother ride!

06-02-2009, 11:45 AM	#5
jrc Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NH Posts: 2,689 Thanks: 33 Thanked 439 Times in 249 Posts	Ok let start a list: 230' Mount Washington 74' Sophie C. 68' Doris E. . . 51' Manitou . . .

06-02-2009, 12:41 PM	#7
JonLevis Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Fay's Boatyard & Canton, MA Posts: 79 Thanks: 18 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	I am at Fay's...stop by, I will give you a tour. I am around usually every weekend. If the door is open, I am home!

06-02-2009, 02:13 PM	#8
livefreeordie Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Alton bay Posts: 61 Thanks: 9 Thanked 15 Times in 7 Posts	Does Mark B still have that big carver? I know its was over 50'. I know it used to sit at silver sands by the gas dock....

06-02-2009, 03:48 PM	#11
JonLevis Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Fay's Boatyard & Canton, MA Posts: 79 Thanks: 18 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	I have 300-gallons of capacity...feeding two 350's, so I can make it from Fay's to Alton Bay for about $1200! Maybe I will get a water trike too!

06-03-2009, 06:54 AM	#14
WeirsBeachBoater Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 709 Blog Entries: 9 Thanks: 39 Thanked 148 Times in 65 Posts	Jon, Congrats on your purchase. I hope you restore the Manitou to her former glory. I had the opportunity to skipper the Manitou a couple of times in the past, once bringing it to Braun Bay. It sure gets a lot of looks and comments. I was sad to see her left to fall into disrepair, glad to see someone picked her up and is going to keep her on the lake.

06-03-2009, 12:06 PM	#16
JonLevis Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Fay's Boatyard & Canton, MA Posts: 79 Thanks: 18 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	The rumor was that she was to be sold and moved to salt water somewhere...knowing her presense on the Lake, I couldn't let that happen! It will be fun restoring her to glory...I have some neglected gel coat to deal with. Anyone want to have a waxing party? Has anyone had good luck with any of the seemingly endless choices of restorer wax? I just picked up the 3M Compound/Wax at the urging of the guys at West Marine...now I just need to practice my "wax on, wax off" moves! GO SOX!!!

06-04-2009, 11:50 AM	#19
SAUGUS BOATER Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Saugus Massachusetts Posts: 84 Thanks: 14 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	51 bluewater cruiser Jon, is this the same boat that used to belong to Herb Oliver from Oliver Lodge in Meredith ? That was a cool boat !

06-04-2009, 01:02 PM	#20
Rattlesnake Gal Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Central NH Posts: 5,252 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 1,447 Thanked 1,349 Times in 475 Posts	We Need Pictures! We would love to see pictures now and while you are restoring your new baby! Congratulations!

06-04-2009, 03:06 PM	#21
EZ-Pass Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 66 Thanks: 6 Thanked 3 Times in 1 Post	Question since the subject came up. I was told that one should never use compound on gel coat. Right or Wrong???

06-04-2009, 03:24 PM	#22
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,525 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 295 Thanked 957 Times in 698 Posts	You know what I use on old sun-faded, yuchted out fiberglass.....I use paint..on a couple small 25 year old sailboats. You can always sand-clean-prime-paint cruddy old fiberglass. Fay's Boat Yard has all the very scientific and very expensive, two-part boat paints like Pettit but I just use Rustoleum or Ben Moore oil paint and it lasts a couple seasons stored out of the water. Applied with a three inch roller and small brush....what the heck... __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake!

06-04-2009, 08:14 PM	#23
Just Sold Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Suncook, NH, but at The Lake at Heart Posts: 2,612 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 433 Times in 209 Posts	RG - This is from the Fay's web site. Bluewater Yachts Coastal Cruiser 51' __________________ Just Sold At the lake the stress of daily life just melts away. Pro Re Nata

06-05-2009, 04:59 AM	#24
Just Sold Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Suncook, NH, but at The Lake at Heart Posts: 2,612 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 433 Times in 209 Posts	JonLevis, Is this your old boat that is for sale at Fay's? http://www.faysboatyard.com/used_boats.html __________________ Just Sold At the lake the stress of daily life just melts away. Pro Re Nata

06-05-2009, 06:18 AM	#25
JonLevis Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Fay's Boatyard & Canton, MA Posts: 79 Thanks: 18 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	There they are...where I was and where I am! I have my work cut out for me, but the Manitou is in pretty good shape...she just needs to be loved again (and buffed, and have new carpet, and new mattresses, and new cushions on the top deck, and on and on). The other boat is priced for a quick sale if anyone is in the market...see my ad on the for sale site!

06-05-2009, 09:06 AM	#26
VtSteve Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,320 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 230 Thanked 361 Times in 169 Posts	YIKES! What a market. I was browsing the Fays site, and they had a 2007 Chap 275 priced almost $20k more than what my dealer just sold a brand new 2008 holdover for. Albeit, the one here had no trailer. But still, one year newer and brand new.

06-05-2009, 09:48 AM	#27
Misty Blue Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 658 Thanks: 121 Thanked 283 Times in 98 Posts	Show'en my ignorance Awsome news Jon! Now, stupid me, what does "Manitou" mean? By the way, I'll trade you a day of elbow grease with a buffer for a trick at the helm! Misty Blue

06-05-2009, 02:26 PM	#30
JonLevis Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Fay's Boatyard & Canton, MA Posts: 79 Thanks: 18 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	There are two meanings to her name... Manitou was the 62-foot yawl commissioned by JFK as a floating White House. Manitou also means "Spirit of the Water" to a group of Native Americans...forgive my ignorance, not sure which group. We were going to re-name her, but after learning about the historical and cultural meaning of her name, I decided that she stays the Manitou

06-05-2009, 07:09 PM	#35
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,525 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 295 Thanked 957 Times in 698 Posts	One time about eight years ago I tried to assert my assumed right of way with the Manitou, out by buoy 3, while sailing a 12' Hobie Holder. The Manitou had a lot of people on board, and the skipper did not let me have my assumed course and I had to change course. It looked like it was moving close to its top speed, too, headed for Meredith. I was think'n, this is a sailboat, you are a motorboat, therefore I have the right of way. As it continued on its course, it got closer, and I quickly started to rethink my situation. This actually happened on two different occasions. So, where's the Marine Patrol when you really need them? __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake!