Obnoxious Loud Music

[sunset on the dock]

Hey, I'm sure this topic has come up before. Are others irritated by the proliferation of boats that play loud music from their boats? And it is not just the wake boats. Boats come through the channel with ear splitting decibel levels. Just so a couple of people on a boat can enjoy their music at the expense of perhaps scores or hundreds who might like to have a conversation, listen to the waves, or relax on their anchored boat having a picnic.

Now...before the Live Free or Die motto gets thrown in my face, freedom comes with responsibilities. And before someone tells me to go back to Massachusetts I will put forth that my family was in the Granite State in the 1700's. And people are tired of the Live Free or Die motto being bandied about to justify rude, selfish, and inconsiderate behavior. This seems to be a reflection of the general deterioration in manners and empathy that we see all about us these days. The lake was NOT like this in the past.

Your thoughts? What to do?

[tis]

Originally Posted by sunset on the dock

Hey, I'm sure this topic has come up before. Are others irritated by the proliferation of boats that play loud music from their boats? And it is not just the wake boats. Boats come through the channel with ear splitting decibel levels. Just so a couple of people on a boat can enjoy their music at the expense of perhaps scores or hundreds who might like to have a conversation, listen to the waves, or relax on their anchored boat having a picnic.

Now...before the Live Free or Die motto gets thrown in my face, freedom comes with responsibilities. And before someone tells me to go back to Massachusetts I will put forth that my family was in the Granite State in the 1700's. And people are tired of the Live Free or Die motto being bandied about to justify rude, selfish, and inconsiderate behavior. This seems to be a reflection of the general deterioration in manners and empathy that we see all about us these days. The lake was NOT like this in the past.

Your thoughts? What to do?

I agree with you there is a general deterioration in manners and empathy. And jet skis are terrible. When somebody anchors in front of a house you would expect a party boat of 20 to try to be a little quiet not scream and holler and laugh loudly all day. I would like to go park a party bus full of people in front of their home while they are sitting on their porch and scream, play loud music, drink, and go to the bathroom on the sidewalk. I don't think they would like it. Having sounded off, most people ARE considerate, but the few spoil it for all. I am sick of it.

[sunset on the dock]

My boss used to say that 95% of our department's problems were caused by 5% of the people. I see a parallel here.

[Descant]

We live in a noisier world. Chainsaws and leaf blowers instead of hand saws and rakes. Sixteen speakers for your car radio or boat. Music, in particular, has grown continually louder as electronic amps have gotten bigger. Does this mean younger generations are getting hard of hearing at age 30 instead of age 65? Certainly, bars and restaurants are noisier than they used to be, and there is almost always somebody 3-4 rows behind me on the plane who I can hear distinctly, talking constantly, oblivious to his/her noise level. Fortunately, we're not bothered much by boat music. The folks who anchor in front of us are pretty far offshore and don't play music (or other group noise) that we can hear.

[DEJ]

To the OP, be happy with what you have. There are many that would give everything too have a place on the lake. Chill, those that annoy you they will all be gone in a few weeks.

[tis]

Originally Posted by DEJ

To the OP, be happy with what you have. There are many that would give everything too have a place on the lake. Chill, those that annoy you they will all be gone in a few weeks.

I am happy with what I have and I know how fortunate we are to live on the lake. It's just too bad as sunset said, that others are not as considerate as they could be.

[sunset on the dock]

Originally Posted by DEJ

To the OP, be happy with what you have. There are many that would give everything too have a place on the lake. Chill, those that annoy you they will all be gone in a few weeks.

To be sure I am quite happy with what I have. But that is not the point. People need to be more considerate.

[DEJ]

Originally Posted by sunset on the dock

People need to be more considerate.

Agreed and also people need too be more tolerant.

[SAB1]

It is nice when Labor Day rolls around……

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by DEJ

Agreed and also people need too be more tolerant.

Yes...But no.

We need to be tolerant of those with different beliefs, backgrounds, practices, values...whatever. Live and let live.

But we do not always need to be tolerant of bad or rude behavior. Sometimes it's better to speak up and say no.

[DEJ]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

But we do not always need to be tolerant of bad or rude behavior. Sometimes it's better to speak up and say no.

Bad or rude behavior about something is simply one's opinion. Loud music might be something you do not like and think it is bad behavior, others like it. Everyone needs too chill.

[sunset on the dock]

Yes indeed. One has a choice to follow a Zen like approach. Kumbaya, "be one with your environment".

I am aware of a different local situation occurring where the people living in the areas unexposed to a major noisy nuisance made the same tolerance recommendations to those who were exposed to the brunt of the situation for hours on end. Despite all nearby neighbors petitioning against what was affecting their neighborhood, others from miles away, totally unexposed to the noise, would chime in with the hackneyed "I thought this was the Live Free or Die state". The neighbors close to the nuisance, it appears, have now prevailed.

It's easy to tolerate and understand little kids having fun in the water for example. This is something totally different.
Perhaps a few understanding, considerate and empathetic adults will read this thread and say "hey, maybe I didn't understand how disruptive this really is". Our son does NOT play music in the boat as he was brought up to respect the feelings and concerns of others. He "TOLERATES" the need to be a good neighbor. Which was my point in starting this thread. To help people understand that their behavior has consequences that are more far reaching than the perimeter of their boat. Yes, tolerate young kids playing in the water. A boat playing heavy metal music at full blast while slowly traversing the area is another situation altogether.

As far as "Chill, those that annoy you they will all be gone in a few weeks" ...so too will the summer fade away. We all endure the cold winters, and we too look forward to those fleeting warm days spent outside with friends and family.
Tolerance is a 2 way street.

[DEJ]

Originally Posted by sunset on the dock

Tolerance is a 2 way street.

Indeed you should heed your own words.

[sunset on the dock]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

Yes...But no.

We need to be tolerant of those with different beliefs, backgrounds, practices, values...whatever. Live and let live.

But we do not always need to be tolerant of bad or rude behavior. Sometimes it's better to speak up and say no.

Well said. As above, tolerance is a 2-way street. Not everyone has the same critical thinking concerning Live Free or Die. As we have seen.

[DEJ]

Originally Posted by sunset on the dock

Well said. As above, tolerance is a 2-way street. Not everyone has the same critical thinking concerning Live Free or Die. As we have seen.

Well said thanks for agreeing with me.

[tis]

Originally Posted by DEJ

Agreed and also people need too be more tolerant.

Oh we are tolerant. It's when the volume gets high we get upset.

[DEJ]

Originally Posted by tis

Oh we are tolerant. It's when the volume gets high we get upset.

I agree. Thanks.

[sunset on the dock]

Originally Posted by tis

Oh we are tolerant. It's when the volume gets high we get upset.

I agree too. Thanks

[upthesaukee]

And the clock is ticking... Tick.... Tick... Tick...

Dave

[thinkxingu]

I feel like I post this same thing every year: my father taught me that "your freedom ends at my nose."

The moment one's music is loud enough to interfere with other people's experiences, it's too loud.

I don't understand why that is a difficult, or polarizing, concept.

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[tis]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

I feel like I post this same thing every year: my father taught me that "your freedom ends at my nose."

The moment one's music is loud enough to interfere with other people's experiences, it's too loud.

I don't understand why that is a difficult, or polarizing, concept.

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I like that a lot!!! Jet Skis have to be loud for them to hear, but the rest of us also have to hear it. At least with them, they go by and are gone. If people are anchored it could be all day.

[ApS]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

I feel like I post this same thing every year: my father taught me that "your freedom ends at my nose."

The moment one's music is loud enough to interfere with other people's experiences, it's too loud. I don't understand why that is a difficult, or polarizing, concept.

Your Dad's quote needs revising...

[John Mercier]

Originally Posted by tis

I like that a lot!!! Jet Skis have to be loud for them to hear, but the rest of us also have to hear it. At least with them, they go by and are gone. If people are anchored it could be all day.

Have to be loud for the rider to hear?

[tis]

Originally Posted by John Mercier

Have to be loud for the rider to hear?

Apparently?

[ApS]

Originally Posted by John Mercier

Have to be loud for the rider to hear?

Ever notice the "music" is terminated when a "wake-setter boat" returns to their fallen surfer?

[The Real BigGuy]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

I feel like I post this same thing every year: my father taught me that "your freedom ends at my nose."

The moment one's music is loud enough to interfere with other people's experiences, it's too loud.

I don't understand why that is a difficult, or polarizing, concept.

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[Biggd]

Originally Posted by sky's

sorry you couldn't give me property on that lake. very quiet here in sandwhich LOVE IT.

Everyone has a different opinion of their "happy place". Some love the ocean, some love the lakes, others love the mountains. Some like the hustle and bustle of city life and others like peace and quiet.
Different strokes for different folks.

[Major]

There is no sense in getting upset over other's inconsiderate/inappropriate behavior. The die is cast. We have raised a generation plus of people who care more about themselves than for others. Loud music is but one example. There are many others. Just last week we were at Saratoga with my son and his wife and her family, and we were sitting on the park benches watching and listening to the races. It's pretty important to be able to hear the broadcast since late minute scratches and keen insights are announced. The picnic table behind us was BLASTING music I didn't particularly care for, too loud to hear the broadcast. My son wanted to say something, and my advice was to not bother, it would only result in unpleasantness. When I'm the voice of reason, something is wrong! Anyway, we dealt with it, although it was very annoying!

[dickiej]

I’m out west now…Idaho is like New Hampshire 50 years ago.

[sky's]

Originally Posted by dickiej

I’m out west now…Idaho is like New Hampshire 50 years ago.

so true. nice picture thanks for sharing

[ApS]

Originally Posted by dickiej

I’m out west now…Idaho is like New Hampshire 50 years ago.

Presently, it's 4 o'clock, overcast, two motionless boats, and quiet.

I'm relaxing to the sounds of ocean surf on the shoreline.

(Which is something you can't get in Idaho).



Where the waves originated, IDK.

[John Mercier]

Originally Posted by tis

Apparently?

I would think that it would be dangerous not to be able to hear your surroundings.
If not, I wonder if a set of earbuds that are waterproof would be worth the local marinas marketing?

[rander7823]

Ear Buds......and use them on the golf course too

[tis]

Originally Posted by John Mercier

I would think that it would be dangerous not to be able to hear your surroundings.
If not, I wonder if a set of earbuds that are waterproof would be worth the local marinas marketing?

WEll, it would be nice for the people that don't care to listen to their music.

[ishoot308]

Originally Posted by tis

WEll, it would be nice for the people that don't care to listen to their music.

The funny thing is Rander is 100% right, ear buds solves everyone's issue! The person who wants to hear music can hear it as loud as they want and no one around them is affected...and heck these new ear buds sound way better than music off a boat hifi speakers anyway! Seems pretty simple to me...

Dan

[John Mercier]

Originally Posted by tis

WEll, it would be nice for the people that don't care to listen to their music.

I'll see if we can acquire some and stock them.
Maybe they will catch on.

[tis]

So problem solved, as long as we can get them to wear them.

[ApS]

Originally Posted by Biggd

Everyone has a different opinion of their "happy place". Some love the ocean, some love the lakes, others love the mountains.
Some like the hustle and bustle of city life and others like peace and quiet.

Different strokes for different folks.

So why bring it here?

[ApS]

While searching for answers to migraine headache "triggers"--which include florescent lights, LED lights, lightning, caffeine and MSG in foods--I came upon this passage:

Other triggers for me are loud noises (including loud music), any strobe-like effect with lights (even driving along a road where the sunlight is shining through rows of trees, creating a strobe effect)

So if you suffer from painful headaches of the migraine variety, add this latest aggravating factor to the list...

[fatlazyless]

ApS asks "OK to go tubing in the dark if my navigation lights are on?"

This Coast Guard information table, Water Skiing Table 4.1, shows water skiing in New Hampshire is prohibited after sunset and before sunrise. The chart shows this is the rule in every state except for Alaska, Mississippi, and the unincorporated territory of Puerto Rico.

http://www.uscgboating.org/regulatio...p?id=17&title=

So, what about tubing? Does the same rule apply and prohibit tubing at night here in New Hampshire same as for water skiing? Anyone know?