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Old 07-14-2019, 07:39 AM   #1
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Went into the Gilford Square Market & Deli yesterday to get some ice. I see red flags when nothing in a store is priced and sure enough, the clerk tells me $4.00 for a 5lb. bag of cubes. No thanks. I’m all for making a profit but there’s a difference between profit and gouging.
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Went into the Gilford Square Market & Deli yesterday to get some ice. I see red flags when nothing in a store is priced and sure enough, the clerk tells me $4.00 for a 5lb. bag of cubes. No thanks. I’m all for making a profit but there’s a difference between profit and gouging.
$1.99 at Cumberland's and I believe the Meredith McDonald's sells ice for a buck.
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Went into the Gilford Square Market & Deli yesterday to get some ice. I see red flags when nothing in a store is priced and sure enough, the clerk tells me $4.00 for a 5lb. bag of cubes. No thanks. I’m all for making a profit but there’s a difference between profit and gouging.
Everything in there is grossly overpriced... I know a few people that won’t go in there unless desperate!
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Went into the Gilford Square Market & Deli yesterday to get some ice. I see red flags when nothing in a store is priced and sure enough, the clerk tells me $4.00 for a 5lb. bag of cubes. No thanks. I’m all for making a profit but there’s a difference between profit and gouging.
I don't blame you for going elsewhere. They probably feel that their "Harvest Time" is June, July and August and want to take advantage of folks.
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99 cents for a 5-pound bag of ice at Market Basket
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6 bags for 5 bucks at Laconia ice!

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Not making it right, but perhaps it's their location? An easy walk from Mountainview.

Might also be a better class of ice, guaranteed not to melt.

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Went into the Gilford Square Market & Deli yesterday to get some ice. I see red flags when nothing in a store is priced and sure enough, the clerk tells me $4.00 for a 5lb. bag of cubes. No thanks. I’m all for making a profit but there’s a difference between profit and gouging.
That is not a revelation !

That store has been like that for years ……….. I am actually quite surprised it hasn't changed ownership ….. as it does have a handy location.
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I use to own a Mobil Station with a mini mart. When everyone else was charging 1.25 for a 12oz soda I was charging 1.75. Everyone would complain but I would tell them "I'll sell you a warm one from out back from out back for a 1.00. But everyone liked my gas prices.
My electric bill for keeping all those drinks ice cold was 1200 a month.
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My electric bill for keeping all those drinks ice cold was 1200 a month.
How were you able to allocate that amount of the bill to only the drinks given the fact that the power bill was for the power use of the entire store?
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That is not a revelation !

That store has been like that for years ……….. I am actually quite surprised it hasn't changed ownership ….. as it does have a handy location.
The Beetle's (Patrick's Pub) own the property. The current owners of the store bought it about 10 years ago from Steve Tremblay. He was excellent. Now.......................not so much.
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That guy is the best...I walked in and got a juice and candy bar for my kid and had $5 in my hand also. I ask how much...he says "Five dollars"...
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How were you able to allocate that amount of the bill to only the drinks given the fact that the power bill was for the power use of the entire store?
I didn't say that was just for the drinks but those coolers use a lot of electricity. Anyone who has ever run a small convenience store knows what I'm talking about.
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Not making it right, but perhaps it's their location? An easy walk from Mountainview.

Might also be a better class of ice, guaranteed not to melt.

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Ice at Mountain View is $1.50. I pull up to the gas dock, ask for ice and hold out my money. They hand me the ice. Don't even have to tie up.
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Ice at Mountain View is $1.50. I pull up to the gas dock, ask for ice and hold out my money. They hand me the ice. Don't even have to tie up.
What about a tip for the attendant?
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We are within walking distance to the store and we have stopped going due to the high prices and dirtiness of the store. We sure miss the days when you could walk down there and get a great sub to take out on the boat.
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I went into that store during July 4th week and tried charging me $9.00 for a pack of hot dog rolls. The owners are complete crooks. It’s an absolute embarrassment, and Patrick’s should be ashamed of themselves leasing to owners that are clearly taking advantage of people.


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I went into that store during July 4th week and tried charging me $9.00 for a pack of hot dog rolls. The owners are complete crooks. It’s an absolute embarrassment, and Patrick’s should be ashamed of themselves leasing to owners that are clearly taking advantage of people.


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Wow! Outrageous! Not unlike Dunkins...when we stop in for thermoses of coffee they charge about $7 per thermos. Today we went to Cumberland Farms where we get ice near the channel and we filled them there. Went to the cashier and told her they take about 2 and a third large cups for each thermos and she shakes her head and said 99¢ each please! And Cumbies is open at 3:30am! (24/7) screw Dunkins.
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A buck a bag at Wal mart.
Some how I knew this post was coming, but stunned by the identity of the poster.

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Looks like Gilford Square Deli means Gilford Village Store? Or are we talking about the Airport Deli? Then someone is talking about the Mobil Store off of the bypass? Three different locations with three different clienteles.

Airport Deli is outrageous in season and rightly so. The convenience and everyone can opt to travel a little ways down the road to Wally World! That has changed ownership from Russ Dumais who retired.

Gilford Village Store Deli is really a gift store. Of course the prices will be high and people have to pay for the convenience as the village is far from other stores. Renovation of an 1800's building is not cheap!

The Mobil Store is known for cheap gas off season. The locals go there for gas. In season because of the convenience of getting off the bypass for basic supplies and gas, the owner opt to raise the prices in exchange for cheap gas for the locals. After all when tourists are on vacation so is their wallets!

There is always Walmart at the end of the bypass if your so stingy! And surprisingly the Mobil Station in front of Shaws is pretty damn competitive with the surrounding gas stations.

As for the locals, there is always Tilton Market Basket or Concord Aldi and Sam's for great prices during the gouging season!
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Broadhopper -- we are talking about the Deli/ Convienance store next to Bay Gulls / Patricks / Liquor store . in that strip Mall.
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Broadhopper -- we are talking about the Deli/ Convienance store next to Bay Gulls / Patricks / Liquor store . in that strip Mall.
That place is just plain nasty! Crazy prices, dirty inside, outdated food items... how it stays in business I'll never understand.

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Broadhopper: I will respectfully disagree with much of your post.

First, as Phantom points out, all of the places you talk about are not the subject of this thread.

Second, I get sandwiches at Airport Deli often. Great to pick up and take out on the boat. Easy in, easy out and unlike WalMart you can park right at the door. They are glad to take telephone orders.

Third: I get most of my gasoline, and car washes too, at the Gilford Mobilmart. It is one of the stores owned by Dave DeVoy, a Belknap County Commissioner. I have never noticed price changes that seem to be aimed at the tourists.
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I have to agree with TiltonBB

Not to take this thread off topic, but I can fully understand & APPRECIATE that a local store pricing may be a little higher than the Super Market or Walmart --BUT that's why they are call "Convenience" Stores.


Personally, I use the Airport Deli/Convivence Store quite often for that always needed pack of hot dog bun's, unannounced visitors and the 18 pack of beer needed or mixers needed for the cocktails, 1/2 gal. of milk ….. so on, so on.


I am actually quite amazed at the variety (albeit not in large quantity) of items they stock & carry.

Personally, I think they could drop the wines & use that space for other items …….. after all- there's wine right down the street.
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That place is just plain nasty! Crazy prices, dirty inside, outdated food items... how it stays in business I'll never understand.
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Completely forgot about this store mainly because it is outrageous year round!
I rest my case. How it stays in business? Because of the tourists!
I had a conversation with someone from Maryland the other day. He thinks everything even the lakeside property is cheap! My God, I'm glad I don't live in Maryland!
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I have to agree with TiltonBB

Not to take this thread off topic, but I can fully understand & APPRECIATE that a local store pricing may be a little higher than the Super Market or Walmart --BUT that's why they are call "Convenience" Stores.


Personally, I use the Airport Deli/Convivence Store quite often for that always needed pack of hot dog bun's, unannounced visitors and the 18 pack of beer needed or mixers needed for the cocktails, 1/2 gal. of milk ….. so on, so on.


I am actually quite amazed at the variety (albeit not in large quantity) of items they stock & carry.

Personally, I think they could drop the wines & use that space for other items …….. after all- there's wine right down the street.
They also have quite a selection and great prices on K cup coffee! They have excellent broasted chicken too!! It's a great year round "convenience" store!

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The store that is the subject of this thread is the little “convenience” store next to the laundromat and Patrick’s and the state liquor store—NOT the Gilford Airport Deli!


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The older I get the more I am will to pay for convenience but draw the line at being taken advantage of. On the other hand it's only gouging if you are forced to buy something.
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Fifty years ago there weren't nearly the amount of convenience stores that you see today; now they are everywhere.

Gas stations used to be just for car repairs and gasoline. Today, most every gas station's old repair facility has been converted into selling area for high profit convenience items (chips, soda, cigs, lottery tickets, etc.). Of course Lottery Tickets are only a high profit item if the store sells a winning ticket, lol. And Lottery Tickets really didn't have a big existence 50 years ago.

Most (if not all) gas stations built today have much larger convenience type stores associated with these new builds.

I'm not in the business, but I would guess these establishments make more money on the convenience items then they do on the gasoline.....
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Fifty years ago there weren't nearly the amount of convenience stores that you see today; now they are everywhere.

Gas stations used to be just for car repairs and gasoline. Today, most every gas station's old repair facility has been converted into selling area for high profit convenience items (chips, soda, cigs, lottery tickets, etc.). Of course Lottery Tickets are only a high profit item if the store sells a winning ticket, lol. And Lottery Tickets really didn't have a big existence 50 years ago.

Most (if not all) gas stations built today have much larger convenience type stores associated with these new builds.

I'm not in the business, but I would guess these establishments make more money on the convenience items then they do on the gasoline.....
It used to be that way and I'm sure it still is. Many years ago I worked at the gas station across from the Meredith docks, it was Tulsa back then. The owner made something like 3 cents per gallon on the gas but cigarettes, drinks, chips and ice were most of the profits.
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It used to be that way and I'm sure it still is. Many years ago I worked at the gas station across from the Meredith docks, it was Tulsa back then. The owner made something like 3 cents per gallon on the gas but cigarettes, drinks, chips and ice were most of the profits.
What year was that? 3 cents a gallon back then is like making 20 cent a gallon today. And I can tell you that most stations don't make more than 10 cents a gallon today. They have to make their money on volume to make any kind of money on gas.
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What year was that? 3 cents a gallon back then is like making 20 cent a gallon today. And I can tell you that most stations don't make more than 10 cents a gallon today. They have to make their money on volume to make any kind of money on gas.
1975 ish. I could be wrong on the exact amount but I know it was darn little.
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It used to be that way and I'm sure it still is. Many years ago I worked at the gas station across from the Meredith docks, it was Tulsa back then. The owner made something like 3 cents per gallon on the gas but cigarettes, drinks, chips and ice were most of the profits.
This is interesting that you bring up the name "TULSA". This brings me to thinking of the old gasoline brands that used to exist 50 years ago.

A few I can think of; Flying A, Cities Service (now Citgo), Sinclair, Jenny, Tulsa, Esso (now Mobil-Exxon), Atlantic Richfield (now ARCO), Phillips.

I'm confident I have missed some. Does anyone have some more to add ?
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This is interesting that you bring up the name "TULSA". This brings me to thinking of the old gasoline brands that used to exist 50 years ago.

A few I can think of; Flying A, Cities Service (now Citgo), Sinclair, Jenny, Tulsa, Esso (now Mobil-Exxon), Atlantic Richfield (now ARCO), Phillips.

I'm confident I have missed some. Does anyone have some more to add ?
Amoco...they use to have “white gas” you could use in Coleman stoves and lanterns...
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This is interesting that you bring up the name "TULSA". This brings me to thinking of the old gasoline brands that used to exist 50 years ago.

A few I can think of; Flying A, Cities Service (now Citgo), Sinclair, Jenny, Tulsa, Esso (now Mobil-Exxon), Atlantic Richfield (now ARCO), Phillips.

I'm confident I have missed some. Does anyone have some more to add ?
Is Getty still around? Gulf? Sinclair?
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Is Getty still around? Gulf? Sinclair?
Gulf still hear in New York but have not seen Getty in years
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1975 ish. I could be wrong on the exact amount but I know it was darn little.
That was right after the oil embargo, 1973, when we had gas rationing and long lines. I actually worked pumping gas at that time and years later after I saw my old boss, he told me he made more money then than he ever made in the gas business.

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That was right after the oil embargo, 1973, when we had gas rationing and long lines. I actually worked pumping gas at that time and years later after I saw my old boss, he told me he made more money then than he ever made in the gas business.

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I worked during that too. We got deliveries of less than half what we would normally sell and tried limiting amounts, odd and even, closing some days but in the end everyone got mad so when we got gas we sold as much as anyone wanted til we ran out and that was that aside from dipping the tank 10 times a day to prove we were really out of gas.
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As long as we've been set adrift from the price gouging issue, I can't help[ but remember when, as teern boys we got Jobs pumping Jenny and ethel. Then Citgo and no-lead came along and ruined the joke.
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Think this is now getting WAY "Off Topic"
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Went into the Gilford Square Market & Deli yesterday to get some ice. I see red flags when nothing in a store is priced and sure enough, the clerk tells me $4.00 for a 5lb. bag of cubes. No thanks. I’m all for making a profit but there’s a difference between profit and gouging.
Gouging is correct. We are walking distance and love to support business in our back yard. I have been in this store twice first time paid $4 for a not so fresh head of iceberg lettuce. The second time $3 for a .79 cents package of cough drops. Yup nothing is priced so it’s a mystery until you get to the register. Never again. I guess the up side is there is never a line. Lol
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Gouging is correct. We are walking distance and love to support business in our back yard. I have been in this store twice first time paid $4 for a not so fresh head of iceberg lettuce. The second time $3 for a .79 cents package of cough drops. Yup nothing is priced so it’s a mystery until you get to the register. Never again. I guess the up side is there is never a line. Lol
The only " line" is the one they cross when they tell you a small loaf of generic white bread is 6 bucks! Fool me once...shame on you, fool me twice...shame on me! Once is enough for me...I'll make the drive to the big stores!

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Maybe it's time for a joke thread, but I don't know how to keep it "Lakes Region".
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Gouging is correct. We are walking distance and love to support business in our back yard. I have been in this store twice first time paid $4 for a not so fresh head of iceberg lettuce. The second time $3 for a .79 cents package of cough drops. Yup nothing is priced so it’s a mystery until you get to the register. Never again. I guess the up side is there is never a line. Lol
I support local businesses 97% of the time. It may cost a bit more but I can afford it.

It is stores like this that move my 3% of business elsewhere.
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Back to price gouging. McDonald's has 8 lbs bags of ice for $1.00, thats 3 more lbs than any where else for less and while your there you can pick up breakfast.
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That's a bargain. Which McD's? ALL?
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We use them here in MA when having a party.
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I have only purchased ice at the McD's on Union Ave next to Taco Bell.
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Also the one on 140 in Tilton ...
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It is stores like this that move my 3% of business elsewhere.
I forgot to mention $14 for a six pack of Sammy Summer. UGH
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Not quite strip joint prices but still...
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Why all the griping? This is capitalism at its finest!

The store owner asks an outrageous price, some people pay it some do not. If enough people pay, he stays in business. If too many people walk out he doesn't! Don't begrudge the guy for asking too much!

For the record... I walked out 2 weeks ago!

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Yeah, price gouging is when stores are charging $10 for water when a natural disaster comes through and people have no other means of getting water (as an example). This is good ol' fashioned capitalism and if the prices are too high the market will dictate that.

I sometimes have to venture to JoJos for beer or other items that I know I can get cheaper elsewhere but I make that choice because I don't want to drive further, going off Moultonborough Neck on the weekend is not a smart choice and it's my own fault for poor alcohol planning.
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Yeah, price gouging is when stores are charging $10 for water when a natural disaster comes through and people have no other means of getting water (as an example). This is good ol' fashioned capitalism and if the prices are too high the market will dictate that.

I sometimes have to venture to JoJos for beer or other items that I know I can get cheaper elsewhere but I make that choice because I don't want to drive further, going off Moultonborough Neck on the weekend is not a smart choice and it's my own fault for poor alcohol planning.
The prices at Jo Jo's are far more inline than the place in question...you simply cannot compare the two...

JoJo's is a CLEAN well run convenience store that serves great food and sells quality convenience items at a fair price. The place in question does none of that! You really need to see it for yourself to understand...

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Agreed on JoJo's--their prices are always reasonable given the location, which I'm sure is why it's always so busy.

In fact, we got meatball subs for dinner on the boat yesterday, and I was reminded what a deal they are at $7.49. Two days ago, friends bought subs at Sub Crazy on the way to camp and a large chicken parm--not nearly as filling as JoJo's meatball--was over $10. That place is borderline criminal.

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Subs are great. Actually a great value too. Great bread choices allow 'sub' or 'sandwich'. Crusty sub roll is a fave.
Prices otherwise a bit high but not extreme as long as you stay out of the butcher case section. Looks great but spendy.
Glad I dont have a grill on the boat 'cus I'd be dropping even more $ at JoJos than I do now.
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Since Jojos has been taken over by Heaths the prices have moderated some. Yes, still a bit high but worth the convenience.
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No more ice at Union Ave McD's. Ice machines can't keep up.
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