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08-04-2010, 01:03 PM | #1 |
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Above And Beyond Safe Boating Requirements??
With the recent and many accidents that have occurred thus far this year, I thought it might be a good idea and a good topic to discuss what you do as a boater that goes above and beyond what the law requires to ensure the safety of your crew, vessel and those boating around you. I'll start it off...
We have had many different family and friends this year visiting our camp and as soon as they get on my boat they all get a quick "safety briefing". Basically the briefing consist of offering PFD's to anyone who wants one, where the PFD's and fire extinguishers are located and what to do in case of an emergency. I also inform everyone that they are to remain seated and hands stay inside the boat during docking and un-docking. I ask that they do not help me in any way with docking the boat unless I specifically ask them to. I usually repeat that last one twice since everyone always tries to reach out and grab the dock post when I don't want them to! (God I hate that!!) I now use my extended dock pole to whack people when they try to help without me asking!! (just kidding) There are a few other things I do, but figured this was enough to get the ball rolling. Let's not keep it specifically on boating and navigation but also include water skiing, tubing, diving or any activity involving a boat and the water. Let's have some fun with this and give everyone ideas on how to have safe fun on our wonderful lake. Dan Last edited by ishoot308; 08-04-2010 at 02:51 PM. |
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I own a jet ski. I know there is a common perception amongst boaters that everybody that is piloting a jet ski is just out there to speed around, jump wakes and drive like an idiot.
I'm just the opposite. While I occasionally enjoy hot dogging when it is safe and prudent, I try and be as responsible as if I were piloting a boat. I have guests and family that will ask to take a ride. With all of the rules on the lake, I only have one rule for riding the ski - you need to have a boating certificate.
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Our boat is rated for 12 people. We have 16 life jackets split in the front and back of the boat.
I have a 100 foot line tied to my throwable cushion. If I ever had to throw it and missed, I'd get another chance and I could also pull a very tired person to the boat. |
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Would adding second battery, a second blower and a second bilge pump qualify?
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safety items
As a boat operator for 54 years I have a policy of putting all life preservers in the lake for a floatation test. As a child with the 11' boat puddy tat we had the cushions type preservers (legal at that time) Well, fooling around out there we threw a preserver at a swimmer, and the preserver went to the bottom. Thus you might have a preserver but it might not float. We also had beer can size fire extinguisher, again legal at that time. they get banged around and the release tube breaks. oops now what. If a 1 lb dosen't work all that long imagine what they last must only be a half lb.
If your preservers are ripped at all, be safe and buy a new one. I don't think using duct tape on them is all that good. |
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I think first and foremost... having an inventory of everything you need done at the beginning of the season is paramount, along with ensuring it's in good working order not just for now but the entire season. For me if it looks questionable it gets replaced. I always carry enough PFDs for the max load of people plus one extra. My fire extinguisher is located within quick and easy reach of me at the helm, so too is my throwable and lake chart. This I think is really important too, I keep my boat clutter free, and insist that all passengers put all their stuff in a bag and keep it there so the bags can then be placed in areas where they can be stacked up neatly and out of the way. I always have in mind if anything ever were to happen I don't want to be digging through piles of clothes, shoes, towels, masks, snorkels, fins, noodles, floats or any other junk that may be on board. Plus these objects can become projectiles or distracting while underway.This admittedly is a challenge with kids on board, but they quickly learn who the captain is.
Rope, can never have enough of that on board either for anchoring or towing. Finally since I have a bowrider, I always carry my bow cover in the event the lake gets really rough and I have to deal with large chop, the bow is emptied out and the cover goes on. All it takes is stuffing one wave with an open bow and your goose is cooked. Always carry some basic tools on board, extra oil, two anchors, and most times my VHF 2 meter HT as a backup to the cell phone, couple of flashlights and a wooden paddle and a really good suggestion gleaned from my boat inspection this year, I added a small first aid kit. I have mentioned this in other postings... when pulling either a skier or tube I display a bright orange safety flag. I NEVER EVER allow anyone near or on the back of the boat if they are in or getting out of the water and the engine is running. When headed out early season... I always have at least a couple changes of good warm clothing with me. Finally I never let the gas tank get below 1/3 of a tank before I'm looking to fill it up. I find most of this to be common sense things to have, and I've always been of the opinion you're far better off having gone a little overboard with this stuff than getting into a pickle and not having what you need. |
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where to begin
Well with a boat named OCD what do you expect? LOL.
Well just from what is carried on board outside that of the items required by law lets see: a 100 foot 1/2 inch nylon Tow line a second anchor both anchors have over 200 feet of line and chain on each. 4 quarts of oil / funnel 3 quarts of gear lube Impellar with full water pump assembly Complete tool 200 piece tool kit My speciality tool bag, with weird things - examples: right angeled screwdrivers, hammer, zip ties, emergency sealant, sealing tape, pipe fittings, extra gas tank cover etc. In addition to the 10 orange life jackets, 3 lifeline racing jackets, 2 racing inflatable jackets has a built in horn but also a bell (required) air horn and whistle VHF hand held radio Both Seatow and Boat US membership cards Replacment engine belts Extra prop Torque wrench 2x4 to wedge to replace prop 200 feet of black and red electrical wire Jumper Cables Emergency Jump start power domb Emergency Medical kit Signal Flares Enough sun screen to keep Casper safe... That should be good for now...... Anyone want to get started on cleaning supplies and other supplies not in the boat?
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I'm not sure if this is a usual for everyone but I unload all passengers while fueling. I only say this because the past couple of times I refueled and also just watching in general I noticed boats refueling with all passengers onboard. I learned it in the Boaters safety class and think its a good rule. I also keep the blower running. I'm pretty new on the lake (two seasons) but I hope I don't get lazy with experience. I'm sure after many fuel ups without incident, some may think nothing will ever happen. I'm not taking the chance.
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Running blowers DURING fueling is not correct (according to most sources). You risk sucking vapors into the engine space. You turn off the blowers during fueling, then run them for four minutes after fueling to remove any fuel vapors. This is before starting your engines. |
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The captain of my boat has not had any alcohol that day, seems to eliminate the majority of the problems.
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surprisingly it actually came in handy in VA. (not for me) but a friend of mine's trim stopped working half way on a 90 mile run. They found it was a fault somewhere in the wiring. There was not way to fix it at the time so they used my wire to bypass the switch. Whenever they needed to lower the drives the would touch the wires.
You never know what you will need electrical wire for.
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We have a complete first aid kit. We have only used it twice in 10 years but it was great to have the right size qauze, butterfly bandages, ointment, smelling salt, and rubber gloves available when one person fell off the swimplatform and sliced their leg (shin) to the bone on the prop and a small boy that got a tear from a fish hook on the head from his brother.
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I carry 3 fire-extinguishers instead of one. I don't keep any of them next to my gas tanks because if they catch fire it may be too hot to get an extiguisher. One is under my seat, another under the "co-pilot" and a 3rd in the bow because I have a good place to hang it there.
Also a reasonable set of tools. Some extra wire, PVC tape, a few exra screws and a spare fuel filter. If you don't like to pack a cooler for every little jaunt, you may want to stash away few small bottles of water. They can be a great comfort item if it takes longer for a slip to open at the Weirs and the kids start fidgetting. That means one les thing to distract you and that increases your safety factor. |
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I carry a first aid kit, extra rope and a tow rope. Can't carry too much extra stuff on the PWC. I don't carry extra PFD's, but I don't allow anyone to ride without one.
If my PWC catches fire, there is no way I would be able to get the fire extinguisher out in time, as it is stored in the front storage compartment. My only goal would be to get myself and passengers as far away as quickly as possible.
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Right of way..
Rule # 1 ...You NEVER EVER have the right of way
Rule # 2... When in doubt, see Rule # 1 When I'm on the boat, I want to relax and enjoy. I don't recall an instance where I HAD to be somewhere bad enough that I wanted to get into a pi$$ing contest with another boater over the right of way with the potential result of ruining a perfect day. I've been on the lake for coming up on 12 years. I adopted this rule about 7 or 8 years ago and have not had a bad experience with another boater since. |
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Great Thread - thanks ishoot308 for starting it.
Having learned from experience which included a $60 ticket I now keep plenty of spare bulbs for my navigation lights. I also have have a First Aid Kit, 2 tool kits, 1 anchor, Fire Extinguisher mounted on the front of the passenger seat base (will be adding another), whistle hanging on the dash in case the electric horn fails, large sponge and bucket, throwable cushion, 100' of rope for either the throwable cushion or anchor, paddle, boat hook, 4 docking lines at 15' ea, 2 charts of Winni, towels in case someone gets wet. 2 life jackets for occupants plus and standard orange as a spare. (I only take 2 people on board due to the boats size) If I am out at night I bring a flashlight along. Most items are stored under the seats or in a net bag under the bow but all very accessable. I always instruct my 1st time passengers on where the safety items are located and what to do or not to do when underway or docking. I prefer to place life jackets for passengers to the outboard side of their seat for easy access and if they want they can always wear them. All this in a 14' closed bow boat. If the boat was larger I would have even more items but space is at a premium.
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night glare
I enjoy night boating and installed a PERKO Light Glare Shield to my main white light mast.
Before I installed this device light would illuminate the bow and effect my night vision. This shield is adjustable on the pole to just eliminate the glare. Here is a link to this inexpensive device that I found to be priceless: http://www3.shopping.com/xPO-Perko-P...92DP0BLK-Perko |
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Wow, what a great response and wonderful ideas!! I am already going to put a couple of them into service on my boat!
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My Donzi 26Zx is pretty well equipped!
1. 4 Fire Extinguishers (1 Automatic Halon, 2 Handheld 5lb extinguishers and 1 silly white one I never took off the boat) 2. 13 lifejackets.... 10 in the 2 USCG kits and 3 ski type vests 3. 2 throwable Life Preservers 4. Tool kit with Duct Tape..... (you can fix almost anything with duct tape) 5. 2 US issue MP whistles - a short sharp burst at 110db gets anyones attention 6. 2 anchors 7. 2 GPS units 8. Spare bulbs for nav lights & extra oils for engine & drive 9. Well stocked First Aid kit 10. 2 batteries with safety switch 11.. Enough SPF 50 to keep my irish redheaded gf pale! As you can see I am BIG on redundancy.... all those years designing widgets for Uncle Sam! On the downside.... I still need to get a bell (silly because I have whistles) and some new flares! Mine have expired! Woodsy
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Good thread Dan with many good ideas.
About 3 years ago, following the example of our neighbors in common, we bought inflatable PFDs like what the MP use and we wear them whenever under way. They are light weight and very unobtrusive. You almost forget you have them on but all you have to is pull that yellow handle and you are ready for the water. We know that a boat can go under very fast so in a mishap we can be calling 911 rather than dealing with getting a PFD on. If we have passengers we can focus on helping them especially if it is the grandchildren. It is pretty hard to help others if you are going under yourself. |
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Lots of good ideas mentioned so far. Let me add a common one that I've yet to hear. Fuses, spare fuses. Also a flashlight for everyone onboard if you're out at night. Should people have to go into the water at night, they'll want to be found. And if you're out at night have 2 spotlights, ideally one with it's own battery in case you can't depend on the boat's system.
Also a gas siphon. It might be easier to get a few gallons from a willing helper than to go for portable tank ... or a tow. And duct tape. Of course.
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Great thread. Lots of great stuff mentioned so far. I have a comprehensive selection of spare parts, emergency gear, "MacGyver materials" and tools on board all the time. Much of my stuff has already been covered, so I'll just list things I have not seen yet:
spare mercruiser blue cooling system drain plug 1 5/8" expandable rubber "freeze plug" assortment of hose clamps new fuel filter and a bottle of gasoline to prime it with mercruiser service manuals for my engine and my drive Fluke 87 DVM canvas snap parts kit and a tool to install them spare manual bilge pump bare SS wire huge assortrment of SS screws, nuts, washers etc. 3M 4200 JB weld zip ties small torch sealing heat shrink crimp connectors throw rope (with bean bag weight attached) 2 boat hooks (you really need two to go through locks) Chapmans Xacto knife (for use as a scalpel) in my first aid kit. There's more, but I can't recall all of it. |
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1) Absolootely—although a demonstration of "gaffer's tape" showed me some super-great versatility. Anyone know where I can buy a roll of "gaffer's tape"?
2) Governments—worldwide—closed down Halon production: Halon hasn't been manufactured since 1994. Any recharging has to be done with recycled Halon or exhausting the present stock. (That said, the present stock is very generous, as the announcement of Halon-cessation resulted in a huge over-production of Halon). 3) After checking on the Coast Guard's long-delayed approval of inflatable life jackets, this site has interesting commentary and graphs: http://www.boatus.com/foundation/Fin...latablepfd.htm Quote:
'Better read-up on those "manual" inflatables. 3) The presence of spare bulbs is a good idea—which prompts me to suggest that a small piece of fine "wet-or-dry" sandpaper should be included to erase any corrosion. 4) I still have a "beer-can" type extinguisher. Though handy, those were discontinued, as the vehicle was carbon-tetrachloride (which turned out to be very damaging to one's nervous system). 5) Any "dry-chemical" fire extinguisher that has ever been discharged (even a little) will eventually leak down; however, there may stilll be some value to a "leaked" fire extinguisher. I'd previously written of putting out a friend—who'd been enveloped by a gasoline fire plus a Triumph GT-6 at a traffic signal—Lucas electrics. (No injuries resulted). But that's not the way to experience putting out a serious fire. I suggest fully-exhausting a "slightly-used" dry-chemical extinguisher in a demonstration by youthful boaters—in the presence of experienced boaters. (But not actually using a fire in the demonstration). 6) Kamper's suggestion of maintaining a distance between extinguisher and potential fire is a good one; however, my extinguisher is mounted at the gas tank (bow), as the fire is more likely at the outboard (stern). Maybe I should mount a second extinguisher at the engine. 7) A selection of tapered wood plugs (available at West® stores) might have saved the Dive boat from sinking. (Jamming a plug into the puncture—with a rag around it—would've slowed the incoming water). 8) "Zip-ties" are usually labelled as "cable-ties". Though the vast majority are made of plastic, cable-ties are available in stainless steel! |
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I was thinking about this. I own a PWC so this doesn't really apply to me. But if I owned a boat, I would make sure that my passengers knew what to do in the event of an accident in which I became uncapacitated. In other words, we are cruising along and I hit a rock, and I get knocked out cold. The boat is taking on water, and the passengers need to get themselves to safety. Do they know where to find the PFDs? Do they know how to get help? Etc. My point is...make sure you give your passengers an idea on what to do...just in case.
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Wow, someone else carries a spare blue merc. coolant drain plug I was told I was a little overboard for that one. Finally they can't talk about that one anymore.
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Songo River in Maine has one and there are several on the Champlain Canal.
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I keep a spare drain plug in my tool kit. I'm not concerned about it coming loose and falling out. But I've made the mistake of not checking it ahead of time and getting to the boat launch only to find out that there's no drain plug installed.
I also have a manual bilge pump. Again, I learned from an experience with a leaky outdrive bellows that bilge pumps will only keep up as long as the batteries have juice, and when you need to get water out immediatley, one of these http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs...Number=2845410 is the only way to go. They're inexpensive.
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Great thread....... 100' line to a throw cushion is a new one to me after 30 years of boating....going to take care of that today.Thanks
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Rogue Gaffer Whistles, &tc...
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The demonstration I saw was by a genuine Hollywood gaffer, who told me that there was only one place who could supply it—and that store was in New York City. I see it costs 80¢ per foot. Well, I think it's worth it. It's stronger than duct tape, and doesn't have the drawbacks: because it's a cloth product, it tears evenly, wraps around items smoothly, and releases cleanly without leaving any adhesive residues. The Tornado® whistle I bought at a West® store, but the blast is so incredibly loud, I'd hesitate to ever use it again. (And have used it only once!) I keep that whistle—and registration—attached to my personal PFD. (The whistle is secured so that it can be used without detaching it). If I'm not actually wearing the PFD, I store it visibly—to keep the MPs "happy". Nowadays, I don't boat after dark—but if I did, I'd also attach a $27 "automatic strobe light" to at least one of the PFDs: Y'never know...there may be a "rogue-wave" out there—somewhere.... |
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Night Boating
This is a great thread with lots of good suggestions and tips. Here's my two cents worth:
We go out on the water both day and night that usually includes several of the kids. Daytime is mostly cruisin' and tubin', while evenings and night-time can be a pleasant, easy cruise. The skipper always has good boat deck footwear and everyone aboard wears a PFD at night. Slow down (it's not a race); don't want to find it by hitting it. Don't have GPS, but I can read a chart, a compass and get my bearings. If the water gets rough everyone gets assigned seating and it's time to pay attention. All the kids know how to tie a bowline, half-hitch, and a clove hitch. The boat has six cleats and usually keep ample dockline attached to all of them. (You need it when you need it and not look for it.) Two batteries switchable, two anchors, tools, an extra stern light. Skipper has a whistle on a lanyard around his neck. I've also learned (the hard way) to keep a minimag flashlight and GERBER tool attached to my belt. You need it when you need it and the Gerber provides small tools with a knife in one package. Same with the minimag -- you need light precisely when and where it's needed. Other things I do have already been posted. I would like to add something on the subject of whistles, although it's not related to boating but the idea is the same. We often go hiking in the Lakes Region and White Mountains. Everyone in our family has a whistle (lanyard around your neck) in the woods. The kids know the rule -- it's a tool not a toy. Sit down if you get lost and blow the whistle ONCE. Let us find you. If you fall and/or get hurt blow the whistle THREE times. The whistle sound carries well through the woods. Can't shout out loud with cracked ribs. Time to have safe and fun day. |
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