Crank-up dock question...

waukewanderer · 05-26-2005, 06:23 PM

I've searched the DES site and re-read the dock rules, but can't find the answer to my question. Does anyone know if there is a hoist height or hoist angle required for a crank-up dock by the State of NH? Any opinions on the optimal height and/or angle of a dock when cranked up for Winter storage? Is it a concern of safety, geometry, structural integrity, or anything else that I might have overlooked?

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Lakegeezer · 05-26-2005, 06:31 PM

If you have read the rules and found nothing, there is probably nothing to worry about. My assumption would be that as long as the dock is fully out of the water, it is OK. Even if the dock fails during the winter and falls into the water, it is unlikely that you will get in trouble.

camp guy · 05-26-2005, 07:20 PM

My disclaimer is: I don't have a crank up dock; never installed one; and never even put one down in the spring or up in the fall. All that having been said, my suggestion is to ride around the Lake, look at the different rigs being used, ask some questions, and go for it. It looks to me like basic geometry is the answer. Most of the crank up docks have removable deck boards (usually in sections) to lessen the weight and take away the 'sail' effect of the dock, most seem to have the cable supported by some type of "A" frame toward the water side, and most seem to have side cables to reduce the sway effect. I see lots of 45 degree geometry involved. Oh, one last suggestion, use a very strong cable, and be sure to securly fasten the hoisting mechanism to whatever you are fastening it to.

codeman671 · 05-26-2005, 07:34 PM

I would suggest speaking with Walker at Watermark, he is extremely knowledgeable in crank-up docks and has probably the best design on the lake. I am sure he could help with your questions. I have not seen any specs from DES that provide any answers to your questions, I do not believe it is an issue, as long as the dock is out of the water for the required time limit per season I doubt they care.

Onshore · 05-27-2005, 07:14 AM

DES has no specific standards regarding the height or angle to which a seasonal dock must be lifted during the non-boating season. One of the basic reasons for requiring removal of piers during the non-boating season is to minimize any unnecessary or unreasonable encroachment on public "waters" during the non-boating season and thereby minimize the impact of the structure on rights of public passage or access. (see DES Wetlands Rule Wt 302.04 (a, 10). Keeping this in mind, you want it to be high enough that a snowmobiler, skier or whoever is able to pass without risk of injury.

T.H.E. Binz · 05-27-2005, 07:44 PM

There are no regulations with regards to hoisting height. Personally, I just crank mine high enough to make certain it is well above the ice!

05-26-2005, 06:23 PM	#1
waukewanderer Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Crank-up dock question... I've searched the DES site and re-read the dock rules, but can't find the answer to my question. Does anyone know if there is a hoist height or hoist angle required for a crank-up dock by the State of NH? Any opinions on the optimal height and/or angle of a dock when cranked up for Winter storage? Is it a concern of safety, geometry, structural integrity, or anything else that I might have overlooked? -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nor'easter, go away!

05-26-2005, 06:31 PM	#2
Lakegeezer Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Moultonboro, NH Posts: 1,657 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 342 Thanked 618 Times in 278 Posts	Probably not If you have read the rules and found nothing, there is probably nothing to worry about. My assumption would be that as long as the dock is fully out of the water, it is OK. Even if the dock fails during the winter and falls into the water, it is unlikely that you will get in trouble. __________________ -lg

05-26-2005, 07:20 PM	#3
camp guy Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: formerly Winter Harbor, still Wolfeboro Posts: 1,135 Thanks: 284 Thanked 480 Times in 271 Posts	Crank up docks My disclaimer is: I don't have a crank up dock; never installed one; and never even put one down in the spring or up in the fall. All that having been said, my suggestion is to ride around the Lake, look at the different rigs being used, ask some questions, and go for it. It looks to me like basic geometry is the answer. Most of the crank up docks have removable deck boards (usually in sections) to lessen the weight and take away the 'sail' effect of the dock, most seem to have the cable supported by some type of "A" frame toward the water side, and most seem to have side cables to reduce the sway effect. I see lots of 45 degree geometry involved. Oh, one last suggestion, use a very strong cable, and be sure to securly fasten the hoisting mechanism to whatever you are fastening it to.

05-26-2005, 07:34 PM	#4
codeman671 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,360 Thanks: 210 Thanked 764 Times in 448 Posts	Watermark I would suggest speaking with Walker at Watermark, he is extremely knowledgeable in crank-up docks and has probably the best design on the lake. I am sure he could help with your questions. I have not seen any specs from DES that provide any answers to your questions, I do not believe it is an issue, as long as the dock is out of the water for the required time limit per season I doubt they care.

05-27-2005, 07:44 PM	#6
T.H.E. Binz Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Meredith & Chadds Ford, PA Posts: 112 Thanks: 0 Thanked 11 Times in 8 Posts	Crank Ups There are no regulations with regards to hoisting height. Personally, I just crank mine high enough to make certain it is well above the ice!

05-27-2005, 07:14 AM	#5
Onshore Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 500 Thanks: 12 Thanked 400 Times in 143 Posts	DES has no specific standards regarding the height or angle to which a seasonal dock must be lifted during the non-boating season. One of the basic reasons for requiring removal of piers during the non-boating season is to minimize any unnecessary or unreasonable encroachment on public "waters" during the non-boating season and thereby minimize the impact of the structure on rights of public passage or access. (see DES Wetlands Rule Wt 302.04 (a, 10). Keeping this in mind, you want it to be high enough that a snowmobiler, skier or whoever is able to pass without risk of injury.